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« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2013, 05:40:41 PM »
and I'll bet you think there is no correlation with having a gun and shooting someone and not having a gun and not shooting someone

we already evidence (posted numerous times) that stricter gun laws lessen the incidence of gun violence

if 50% of "crime guns" can be traced to 1% of gun dealers then there is obviously an huge and easy target to lessen gun violence

I can go on about this but honestly have no time at the present moment and I doubt it would make any difference as you've convinced yourself that easy access to guns have no bearing gun violence
and there is also plenty of data that says that stricter gun laws dont help gun violence ::)

If youre concerned with the root issue which is the propensity to commit violence then you would understand how ignorant your view on guns is.

And exactly how do you plan on addressing them? background checks? how is that going to help?

what about the other 50%?

I could go on and on but youve convinced yourself that without guns violence wont happen.

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« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2013, 05:57:33 PM »
So why not focus on the corrupt dealers instead? 

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« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2013, 07:46:21 PM »
typical excuse made by Repubs

if it's not not working perfectly somewhere else then it's a complete failure and can't work anywore and furthermore is somehow proof that no effort should be made to improve



Wrong again, Straw!!

Chicago's laws are NOWHERE NEAR perfect. Once again, your pathetic kneepadding (when Obama-style liberal policies fall flat) leaps beyond the absurd, foolishly equating not replicating liberal buffoonery with doing absolutley nothing.

Obama's hometown, with his former Chief of Staff running it, has practically become the murder capital of the country.




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« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2013, 07:52:22 PM »
and there is also plenty of data that says that stricter gun laws dont help gun violence ::)

If youre concerned with the root issue which is the propensity to commit violence then you would understand how ignorant your view on guns is.

And exactly how do you plan on addressing them? background checks? how is that going to help?

what about the other 50%?

I could go on and on but youve convinced yourself that without guns violence wont happen.

This mess is all about exploiting Sandy Hook and other tragedies, to basically eliminate the second amendment.

The reason the violence in towns like Chicago get put on the back burner is obvious: There's no political value to it.

Libs can't push anti-gun laws as effectively (if at all), when Negroes are the perpetrators of the crimes (there goes the evil right-wing, Republican, Tea-Party flap).

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« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2013, 05:53:40 AM »
This mess is all about exploiting Sandy Hook and other tragedies, to basically eliminate the second amendment.

The reason the violence in towns like Chicago get put on the back burner is obvious: There's no political value to it.

Libs can't push anti-gun laws as effectively (if at all), when Negroes are the perpetrators of the crimes (there goes the evil right-wing, Republican, Tea-Party flap).

Absolutely Feinstein at least comes out and admits she is using the deaths of innocent children to push her agenda, I don't see why her supporters can't do it a well

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« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2013, 05:56:33 AM »
typical excuse made by Repubs

if it's not not working perfectly somewhere else then it's a complete failure and can't work anywore and furthermore is somehow proof that no effort should be made to improve


Where in the United States has strict gun control been proven to work?  ???

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« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2013, 08:41:30 AM »
6-Month-Old Girl Shot Five Times Dies
 
Chicago top cop said incident has "very strong gang overtones"
 
By Emily Florez and Courtney Copenhagen
 
|  Tuesday, Mar 12, 2013  |  Updated 9:48 AM CDT
 



A 6-month-old baby has died after she was shot Monday while her father was changing her diaper.
 
After several surgeries, Jonylah Watkins passed away Tuesday morning, Chicago Pastor Corey Brooks confirmed.
 
Jonylah's father, identified by family members as 28-year-old Jonathan Watkins, is in stable condition. He was changing the little girl's diaper on the front passenger seat of the family van when the shooting occurred, police said.
 
"The city of Chicago should be outraged that a 6-month-old baby could be shot and killed in our city," Brooks said. "It's horrific."
 
Jonylah and Watkins were both taken to hospitals in critical condition after shots rang out at about 12:45 p.m. Monday on the 6500 block of South Maryland Avenue. Watkins was taken to Northwestern Memorial Hospital. Jonylah was taken to Comer Children’s Hospital.
 
Police Supt. Garry McCarthy said incident has "very strong gang overtones" and the father, who has an extensive criminal history, was the intended target. Police are pursuing several angles, McCarthy said, and urge anyone with information to call Area Central Detectives at 312-747-8380.
 
"This is another tragedy, because no child, certainly not an infant, should be a victim of gun violence," McCarthy told reporters Tuesday.
 
Brooks said the baby's mother, Judy Young, is distraught and in a lot of pain. "We're going to find who did this and make sure they are brought to justice," he said. "We're not going to be afraid. We're going to take back our neighborhood."
 
Police are still looking for the shooter, who ran up from behind Watkins, fired, and then took off to a nearby blue conversion van, department spokesman John Mirabelli said. Bullets struck Jonathan Watkins in the buttocks and on the right side of his face. His young daughter was hit five times: in the thigh, shoulder, lung, liver and bowels, the family later said.
 
Witnesses reported hearing at least 10 gunshots.
 
"I just heard like a lot of shots and skid marks, so that's when I ran to the corner," said Patricia McGowan, who lives near the scene but was at a salon at the time gunfire rang out. "There is always gunshots and crime in the neighborhood, always drug activity in the neighborhood. ... It's heartbreaking. We're looking for a place to move out immediately because that could have easily been me coming from the bus."
 
Police said Jonathan Watkins has known gang affiliations.
 
The baby's grandmother, Mary Young, said her daughter and Watkins were just recently married. Judy Young was grazed by a bullet in the knee about seven months ago, she said, while Jonylah was still in the womb.
 
Pastor Brooks late in the day offered a $5,000 reward for information that leads to the arrest and conviction of the little girl's shooter. Brooks gained notoriety last year for camping out on the roof of a south side motel in an effort to raise money for a community center.
 
Earlier in the day, Chicago police Supt. Garry McCarthy touted progress in his department's efforts against crime. As of Monday, shooting incidents in the city are down 19 percent year-over-year, he said.
 
"This is a sobering reality we have a lot of work to do even though we're making progress," McCarthy said Tuesday.


Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/6500-maryland-avenue-shooting-197082281.html#ixzz2NLArXlll


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« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2013, 06:17:39 AM »

7 Shot At Club During Rapper’s Album Release Party
 
Chicago police suspect the incident was gang-related
 

By Lauren Petty
 
|  Thursday, Mar 21, 2013  |  Updated 7:23 AM CDT
 


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Seven people were shot inside this nightclub on Chicago's South Side during a local rapper's record release party. Police said they suspect the incident was gang-related.
 

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Seven people were injured in an overnight shooting at a record release party at a nightclub in Chicago's South Side Gresham neighborhood.
 
Police said three men opened fire inside Mr. G's Supperclub on the 1500 block of West 87th Street around 1:15 a.m. A fight had started at the release party for a local rapper, police said, and three men pulled out handguns and fired into the crowd.
 
Six men and one woman were struck. The 19-year-old woman was taken to Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, while the others -- men mostly in their 20s -- transported themselves in stable condition.
 
Police said no one was seriously hurt and all the victims' wounds were minor. Community activist Andrew Holmes said the woman was struck several times and is in critical condition. Police could not confirm those details.
 
"[The shooting] may or may not have been caught on surveillance cameras inside this place as well as outside," Holmes said. "But there was a female who was shot multiple times."
 
No one is in custody, and officials did not have a description of the suspects as of Thursday morning. Police said they believe the incident is gang-related.


Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/7-Shot-Club-Rapper-Album-Release-Party-Chicago-199331621.html#ixzz2OBDPFU1B