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Title: Yohimbe?
Post by: adrain on September 07, 2011, 12:18:25 AM
I started taking yohimbe about 3weeks ago I've already made good progress on leaning out. I'm only taking one capsule 2.5mg aday, will maybe bump it to 5mg starting next week.  But so far it seems to be working better than any fat burner I've tried.  I ran across a Dr. Oz list of supplements NOT to ever take  and yohimbe was on the list lol.  Has anyone tried yohimbe is so for how long how much per day and what where the results?  Thanks (http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/09/06/11085693/profilepic/1UDaMvTFGtj2jINPgHoI2VMHyrBTUU0655.jpeg)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: g101 on September 07, 2011, 12:21:38 AM
lol.... this guy makes me laugh

WHAT THE FUCK DO U NEED USELESS YOHIMBE FOR WHEN YOU'RE ON HORMONAS  ???

but wait a minute... you're the guy who claimed natural status right ??

I'm 6'3 haven't stepped foot on a scale in months, these days I just go by what I see in the mirror.  I try to stay lean year round now, in the past I did the bulking thing but it was too hard getting that bf off!  06'-07' I tried ph's had some bad side effects, so I haven't touched anything besides creatine, multi vits, pre and post workouts drinks, fatburners, protein shakes since!  So never tried anything other than pro hormones.

 ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Emmortal on September 07, 2011, 12:41:51 AM
(http://zurevla.nl/worldpress/images/fun/2007/11/attention_whore3.jpg)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: DK II on September 07, 2011, 01:00:41 AM
 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Meso_z on September 07, 2011, 01:03:04 AM
oh man.. ::)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: calfzilla on September 07, 2011, 03:17:49 AM
Well I dont know how effective yohimbe is but I now it is powerful. I once took some and went for a walk, I had this really weird feeling like I was about to die. Kind of like anxiety but I know an anxiety and this was something different. I rested and drank so Gatorade and felt better but been afraid to use the stuff again.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Dr Kincaid on September 07, 2011, 03:27:35 AM
Stepping stone to harder substances for sure.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: ManBearPig... on September 07, 2011, 04:37:17 AM
is this the natural mr. getbig?
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: WillGrant on September 07, 2011, 04:38:29 AM
I started taking yohimbe about 3weeks ago I've already made good progress on leaning out. I'm only taking one capsule 2.5mg aday, will maybe bump it to 5mg starting next week.  But so far it seems to be working better than any fat burner I've tried.  I ran across a Dr. Oz list of supplements NOT to ever take  and yohimbe was on the list lol.  Has anyone tried yohimbe is so for how long how much per day and what where the results?  Thanks (http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/09/06/11085693/profilepic/1UDaMvTFGtj2jINPgHoI2VMHyrBTUU0655.jpeg)
I dont care how much yohimbine you took - share your hormone list with us brah  8)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: adrain on September 07, 2011, 04:42:18 AM
Well I dont know how effective yohimbe is but I now it is powerful. I once took some and went for a walk, I had this really weird feeling like I was about to die. Kind of like anxiety but I know an anxiety and this was something different. I rested and drank so Gatorade and felt better but been afraid to use the stuff again.
I felt the same way the first day!  The second day wasn't near as bad now I can't even notice.  Heard it works best when taken with caffeine but I nervous to try that.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: DK II on September 07, 2011, 04:48:33 AM
I dont care how much yohimbine you took - share your hormone list with us brah  8)

x2
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Meso_z on September 07, 2011, 04:50:53 AM
Some potent stuff.  ::)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: adrain on September 07, 2011, 04:53:04 AM
x2
DK  have you tried it before?
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: DK II on September 07, 2011, 05:02:24 AM
DK  have you tried it before?

Yohimbine HCl, yes, Yohimbe not.


I like the Yohimbine HCl, great fatburner, especially for lower back.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Dr Dutch on September 07, 2011, 05:34:29 AM
Yohimbine HCl, yes, Yohimbe not.


I like the Yohimbine HCl, great fatburner, especially for lower back.
You are one funny mister...
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: adrain on September 07, 2011, 05:35:49 AM
Yohimbine HCl, yes, Yohimbe not.


I like the Yohimbine HCl, great fatburner, especially for lower back.
Actually I looked again and it's yohimbine HCI listed on the label. It started working pretty fast did you take 5mgs and did you stack it with caffeine?
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: WillGrant on September 07, 2011, 05:38:21 AM
Not natural
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: K-1 on September 07, 2011, 05:47:19 AM
Well I dont know how effective yohimbe is but I now it is powerful. I once took some and went for a walk, I had this really weird feeling like I was about to die. Kind of like anxiety but I know an anxiety and this was something different. I rested and drank so Gatorade and felt better but been afraid to use the stuff again.

yep. I took yohimbe years ago one time and never again. Same thang...felt like I was about to cash it in. Complete insomnia. Very weird feeling. Shit is dangerous. 
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Parker on September 07, 2011, 06:09:19 AM
 http://www.livestrong.com/article/313097-what-are-the-side-effects-of-yohimbe-extract/ (http://www.livestrong.com/article/313097-what-are-the-side-effects-of-yohimbe-extract/)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 07, 2011, 06:30:56 AM
Actually I looked again and it's yohimbine HCI listed on the label. It started working pretty fast did you take 5mgs and did you stack it with caffeine?
If you look again you'll probably notice its hgh youre taking
We dont like your type around here
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: hipolito mejia on September 07, 2011, 06:39:42 AM
Be carefull mistaken that for "Yombina" the only thing proven to get women horny as hell and get laid with just about anyone near then.... Yombina its a drug for Cattle purposes only.... When the cow don't want to copulate with the bull ... you give some Yobina ....It can be dangerous in other females as humans but they wil be fucking like wild beast.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Meso_z on September 07, 2011, 07:49:55 AM
If you look again you'll probably notice its hgh youre taking
We dont like your type around here
;D
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Swlabr on September 07, 2011, 07:52:15 AM
Don't lie to us, you bag of shit, you're on the most powerful steroid in history: black genetics.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: DK II on September 07, 2011, 07:52:56 AM
If you look again you'll probably notice its hgh youre taking
We dont like your type around here


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Isn't Yohimbe bark injected in 5 i.u. ??
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Dr Dutch on September 07, 2011, 07:54:54 AM

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Isn't Yohimbe bark injected in 5 i.u. ??
With them big ol' needles..straight in the glutses...
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: deadz on September 07, 2011, 07:56:54 AM
lol.... this guy makes me laugh

WHAT THE FUCK DO U NEED USELESS YOHIMBE FOR WHEN YOU'RE ON HORMONAS  ???

but wait a minute... you're the guy who claimed natural status right ??

 ::) ::) ::) ::)

LOL, another liar.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: DK II on September 07, 2011, 07:57:46 AM
With them big ol' needles..straight in the glutses...

adrain is natural, only fried chicken and rice.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Meso_z on September 07, 2011, 07:58:52 AM
Maybe he means this yoshimbe?

(http://juicedmuscle.com/jmblog/sites/default/files/images/HeliosHCL.JPG)

I think we misunderstood the guy.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: adrain on September 07, 2011, 08:00:11 AM
If you look again you'll probably notice its hgh youre taking
We dont like your type around here
A serious weightlifter TYPE?
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Dr Dutch on September 07, 2011, 08:03:43 AM
Maybe he means this yoshimbe?


I think we misunderstood the guy.
I think he means yomothafucka...
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: BB on September 07, 2011, 08:12:42 AM
yep. I took yohimbe years ago one time and never again. Same thang...felt like I was about to cash it in. Complete insomnia. Very weird feeling. Shit is dangerous. 

Yes, Yohimbe works great for fat loss for me, better than EC, but I'll be darned if I wasn't the most whiny, paranoid, anxious thing on two feet. Yohimbine is nicer, but.....

And I sure wouldn't stack EC and Yohimine/Yohimbe like some folks. That seems like a stroke waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: newmom on September 07, 2011, 08:12:49 AM
adrain, you look great but seriously, a gallon of water in the gym, douche move IMO
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: adrain on September 07, 2011, 08:39:57 AM
adrain, you look great but seriously, a gallon of water in the gym, douche move IMO
Thanks!   Yes I take a gallon to the gym because I drink that and more during training.  Not walking to the fountain to drink between sets. I tend to cramp alot so I drink plenty of water  to help prevent this. 
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: deadz on September 07, 2011, 08:50:25 AM
Thanks!   Yes I take a gallon to the gym because I drink that and more during training.  Not walking to the fountain to drink between sets. I tend to cramp alot so I drink plenty of water  to help prevent this. 
Cut back on the dianabol.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 07, 2011, 09:06:23 AM
A serious weightlifter TYPE?
A liar and a black
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: K-1 on September 07, 2011, 10:31:39 AM
Yes, Yohimbe works great for fat loss for me, better than EC, but I'll be darned if I wasn't the most whiny, paranoid, anxious thing on two feet. Yohimbine is nicer, but.....

And I sure wouldn't stack EC and Yohimine/Yohimbe like some folks. That seems like a stroke waiting to happen.

Hell yeah. That is pretty much like asking the grim reaper to take your hand.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: newmom on September 07, 2011, 10:32:48 AM
Thanks!   Yes I take a gallon to the gym because I drink that and more during training.  Not walking to the fountain to drink between sets. I tend to cramp alot so I drink plenty of water  to help prevent this. 

probably a tad more of sodium in the diet. I was just busting stones anyway. Do you compete?
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: adrain on September 07, 2011, 10:56:15 AM
probably a tad more of sodium in the diet. I was just busting stones anyway. Do you compete?
Sodium is every high I added more magnesium and it really seems to be helping.  I only compete against myself these days.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: newmom on September 07, 2011, 10:58:51 AM
Sodium is every high I added more magnesium and it really seems to be helping.  I only compete against myself these days.

mag never did anything for me. If I add just a tsp of bbq sauce to chicken every other day I don't cramp up. But you lift weights and I run marathons so everyone is different
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: deceiver on September 07, 2011, 11:04:44 AM
Horrible stuff. EC never skyrocketed my BP like this shit. Fucks you up mentally big time as well. EC is much better overall I think, less sides.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Pet shop boys on September 07, 2011, 11:05:53 AM
Thanks!   Yes I take a gallon to the gym because I drink that and more during training.  Not walking to the fountain to drink between sets. I tend to cramp alot so I drink plenty of water  to help prevent this. 

You should cut on deca or dianabol...shouldnt have cramp to the point you can't even walk to the water fountain like everyone does.....specially if youre not competing.



WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Parker on September 07, 2011, 11:12:21 AM
He meant Usagi Yojimbo
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/03/Usagi_Yojimbo_The_Ronin.jpg/250px-Usagi_Yojimbo_The_Ronin.jpg)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Schmoff on September 07, 2011, 11:14:10 AM
A liar and a black

Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: adrain on September 07, 2011, 12:41:23 PM
You should cut on deca or dianabol...shouldnt have cramp to the point you can't even walk to the water fountain like everyone does.....specially if youre not competing.



WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH
Lol not really understanding the hate on the gallon of water.  I drink close to a gallon 1/2 at the gym, would be alot of time walking to a fountain.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: makaveli25 on September 07, 2011, 12:42:56 PM
Lol not really understanding the hate on the gallon of water.  I drink close to a gallon 1/2 at the gym, would be alot of time walking to a fountain.

You look like a fag walking around with your dirty jug of water. You don't need to drink that much during a workout pussy.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: g101 on September 07, 2011, 12:44:37 PM
the fact that this LIAR sais is natural to us is like spitting in our face like gh15 sais

YOU ARE NOT N A T U R A L

STOP IT WITH THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT... I USE CREATINE MULTI VITAMIN BLA BLA

STOP IT

WHY DONT U SAY YOUR REAL CYCLES ON TREN ACE, MASTERON, GH ETC ETC

THIS ISN'T FUCKING DELUSINAL BODYBUILDING.COM WHO THINK 220LB 6% DRY IS NATURAL


 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: adrain on September 07, 2011, 12:51:41 PM
You like a fag walking around with your dirty jug of water. You don't need to drink that much during a workout pussy.
How much water do I need to drink?
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: tbombz on September 07, 2011, 12:53:50 PM
your all just playing into it guys.. 
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: g101 on September 07, 2011, 12:56:18 PM
your all just playing into it guys.. 

lol...

he's a funny one... never replies to any posts that have to do with hormones hahah what a joke.

Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: hangclean on September 07, 2011, 01:17:30 PM
Maybe he means this yoshimbe?

(http://juicedmuscle.com/jmblog/sites/default/files/images/HeliosHCL.JPG)

I think we misunderstood the guy.
that right there is the best fat burner on the market.  injectable clen+yohimbine hcl.....melts fat off like nothing else.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: makaveli25 on September 07, 2011, 01:25:45 PM
How much water do I need to drink?

A few sips from the fountain between exercises should be enough pussy.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: coltrane on September 07, 2011, 01:50:21 PM
A few sips from the fountain between exercises should be enough pussy.

Agreed.

I love the guys that lug the milk jugs around.  Fucking retarded.  SCREAMS look at me.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: viking1 on September 07, 2011, 01:53:56 PM
Drinking that much water can lead to a major electrolyte imbalance... which leads to many symptoms(including cramping)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 07, 2011, 01:59:55 PM
Drinking that much water can lead to a major electrolyte imbalance... which leads to many symptoms(including cramping)
Do yOu know what also leads to cramping? Winstrol
Or as adrain calls it 'muscle semen'
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: tendonitis on September 07, 2011, 02:04:36 PM
I took some yohimbe about ten years ago....remember my heart double beating, triple beating, skipping a beat........good times......
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: adrain on September 07, 2011, 02:37:43 PM
A few sips from the fountain between exercises should be enough pussy.
;D
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: newmom on September 07, 2011, 03:53:19 PM
Maybe he means this yoshimbe?

(http://juicedmuscle.com/jmblog/sites/default/files/images/HeliosHCL.JPG)

I think we misunderstood the guy.

I've done research on this before. This is what I found to be interesting.


A good fat reduction program with Helios and T3:

Their are two bottles one is yohimbine hcl and clen, the other bottle is
t-3.It is a two part system. The ratio is in one bottle (100cc bottle) you
have 40mcg of clen with yohimbine hcl 5.4mg per cc, in the second 100cc
bottle you have 25mcg/cc of T3.
you can shoot 1 ml three days a week or ED. Some people may do it 3 times a
day. The T3 can be taken orally and the yohimbine /Clen should be injected
subq on the place you want to loose fat, the liquid presses the fat
(triglycerides) out off the lipocytes (fatcells) into the blood, and you'll
have to burn it with aerobic training after the injections.

In a issue of Muscle Media 2000, in the October 1996 issue, "Steroid Guru"
Dan Duchaine presents an article titled "Lower Body Fat." In this piece Dan
recalls the plight of a female bodybuilding friend who found it impossible
to lose fat in her below-the-waste region. No matter what she did - from
exercise to drugs to steroids to near starvation - none of her strategies
yielded success.
Then, in a section subtitled "You Know About Beta Agonists, But ... How
About Alpha2 Blocker?," Duchaine lays it on the line. Ephedrine stimulates
adrenoreceptors, but only those of the beta class. Among the three members
of this class beta1 signals for fat mobilization while beta2 and beta3
concern themselves with the generation of thermogenic activity in the
mitochondria. "Burn more fatty acids for heat," they command. While you
might think that these latter two receptors would result in increased
lower-body fat loss, it just doesn't work that way.
The reason is because there are few beta1 receptors - the generators for
fat mobilization - in the lower body regions. However, what there are - and
too many at that - in the lower-body fat are alpha2 receptors.
Specifically, there are 9 times more alpha2 than beta1 receptors. When
alpha2 receptors are stimulated they block fat mobilization, achieving a
near opposite effect of beta1 receptors resulting in an increased
stubbornness to lose lower-body fat. Worse yet, noradrenaline generation is
reduced and body temperature is lowered. Then, to top it all off, on low
calorie diets, alpha2 receptors increase.
Duchaine goes on to say that this process affects far more women than men,
who normally have fewer alpha2 receptors ... except for Duchaine! The glad
news, however, is that there is a alpha2 blocker available as an
over-the-counter herbal supplement, and that the blocker is yohimbine, the
chief active ingredient in yohimbe. Unlike ephedrine, yohimbe is not an
agonist but an antagonist - it doesn't stimulate receptors, it blocks them.
And when yohimbe blocks alpha2 receptors, noradrenaline flows and the
resulting effect is increased body temperature and increased fat burning,
even in the difficult area of the lower body.
Reference: Duchaine D. Lower body fat. Muscle Media 2000. 1996;54:94-99

For the Helios you do not mix the two solutions in the same
syringe (different chemistry). Ideally both solutions should be taken
orally. Only really lean guys with a stubborn fat deposits will want to
inject just the clenbuterol/yohimbine solution subcutaneously.
Start the dosage of each solution at 0.5cc der pay and gradually work
the dosage up as fast as the person is comfortable. The clen solution
is sometimes tough for the odd person to get used to because of
headaches. Just take their time. I would go as high as 3 cc of each per
day possibly 4 if the person is a real hard ass for drugs, but 4 is
pretty high. Lots of guys are happy at 2 cc. Then when they want to
come off the Helios system they will need to taper slowly down for 2
weeks at least.

They need to drink so much water they will be sick of it if they are the
ones that sweet like no tomorrow. They will need to watch their
electroplytes as well besause they are loosing so much in their sweat
and plain water doesn't replace electrolytes.

Oh and one other thing, they should split the dosage into morning and
early early evening if they can.

Helios dosage should start low (0.25 - 0.5cc) and increase daily or as the
user can handle the clen side effects. I wouldn't dose past 3cc of either
solution per day and I would split the dosage up into 12 hour intervals (ie
have the dose in AM and the other half in the PM). The user can maintain
that doase for as long as they wish but, they have to know to come off the
higher doses much more slowly then they went up to the higher doses. ie : 1
week increasing daily dosage until the max desired dosafe is reached. Then
2-3 weeks at that dosage and finally dropping the daily dosage for a period
of 2 weeks. There are no hard and fast rules but you have an idea how it
works.

A good way to cycle Helios:

Clen/Yohimbine

WEEK 1 1/2 CC
WEEK 2 1 CC
WEEK 3 1.5 CC
WEEK 4 2 CC
WEEK 5 2.5 CC
WEEK 6 2 CC
WEEK 7 1 CC
WEEK 8 0.5 CC

T3

7 DAYS @ 12.5 MCG
5 DAYS @ 25 MCG
7 DAYS @ 50 MCG
5 DAYS @ 37.5 MCG
5 DAYS @ 25 MCG
5 DAYS @ 12.5 MCG
5 DAYS @ 6.25 MCG

Using it this way,is smart all around...i didn't feel any downfall once i
seized the T3,because the clen was being run until week 8...intensity in
the gym was still apparent all the way thru and didn't lose any of leaness
post cycle...a diet that worked well on this was the ISOCALORIC diet by Dan
Duchaine...

Inject the Clen/Yohim and drink the T3. Worked very well for me. I went as
high as 4cc's of each per day, but not for long, mostly was at 3cc's per
day with a long taper off
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: adrain on September 07, 2011, 03:58:34 PM
I've done research on this before. This is what I found to be interesting.


A good fat reduction program with Helios and T3:

Their are two bottles one is yohimbine hcl and clen, the other bottle is
t-3.It is a two part system. The ratio is in one bottle (100cc bottle) you
have 40mcg of clen with yohimbine hcl 5.4mg per cc, in the second 100cc
bottle you have 25mcg/cc of T3.
you can shoot 1 ml three days a week or ED. Some people may do it 3 times a
day. The T3 can be taken orally and the yohimbine /Clen should be injected
subq on the place you want to loose fat, the liquid presses the fat
(triglycerides) out off the lipocytes (fatcells) into the blood, and you'll
have to burn it with aerobic training after the injections.

In a issue of Muscle Media 2000, in the October 1996 issue, "Steroid Guru"
Dan Duchaine presents an article titled "Lower Body Fat." In this piece Dan
recalls the plight of a female bodybuilding friend who found it impossible
to lose fat in her below-the-waste region. No matter what she did - from
exercise to drugs to steroids to near starvation - none of her strategies
yielded success.
Then, in a section subtitled "You Know About Beta Agonists, But ... How
About Alpha2 Blocker?," Duchaine lays it on the line. Ephedrine stimulates
adrenoreceptors, but only those of the beta class. Among the three members
of this class beta1 signals for fat mobilization while beta2 and beta3
concern themselves with the generation of thermogenic activity in the
mitochondria. "Burn more fatty acids for heat," they command. While you
might think that these latter two receptors would result in increased
lower-body fat loss, it just doesn't work that way.
The reason is because there are few beta1 receptors - the generators for
fat mobilization - in the lower body regions. However, what there are - and
too many at that - in the lower-body fat are alpha2 receptors.
Specifically, there are 9 times more alpha2 than beta1 receptors. When
alpha2 receptors are stimulated they block fat mobilization, achieving a
near opposite effect of beta1 receptors resulting in an increased
stubbornness to lose lower-body fat. Worse yet, noradrenaline generation is
reduced and body temperature is lowered. Then, to top it all off, on low
calorie diets, alpha2 receptors increase.
Duchaine goes on to say that this process affects far more women than men,
who normally have fewer alpha2 receptors ... except for Duchaine! The glad
news, however, is that there is a alpha2 blocker available as an
over-the-counter herbal supplement, and that the blocker is yohimbine, the
chief active ingredient in yohimbe. Unlike ephedrine, yohimbe is not an
agonist but an antagonist - it doesn't stimulate receptors, it blocks them.
And when yohimbe blocks alpha2 receptors, noradrenaline flows and the
resulting effect is increased body temperature and increased fat burning,
even in the difficult area of the lower body.
Reference: Duchaine D. Lower body fat. Muscle Media 2000. 1996;54:94-99

For the Helios you do not mix the two solutions in the same
syringe (different chemistry). Ideally both solutions should be taken
orally. Only really lean guys with a stubborn fat deposits will want to
inject just the clenbuterol/yohimbine solution subcutaneously.
Start the dosage of each solution at 0.5cc der pay and gradually work
the dosage up as fast as the person is comfortable. The clen solution
is sometimes tough for the odd person to get used to because of
headaches. Just take their time. I would go as high as 3 cc of each per
day possibly 4 if the person is a real hard ass for drugs, but 4 is
pretty high. Lots of guys are happy at 2 cc. Then when they want to
come off the Helios system they will need to taper slowly down for 2
weeks at least.

They need to drink so much water they will be sick of it if they are the
ones that sweet like no tomorrow. They will need to watch their
electroplytes as well besause they are loosing so much in their sweat
and plain water doesn't replace electrolytes.

Oh and one other thing, they should split the dosage into morning and
early early evening if they can.

Helios dosage should start low (0.25 - 0.5cc) and increase daily or as the
user can handle the clen side effects. I wouldn't dose past 3cc of either
solution per day and I would split the dosage up into 12 hour intervals (ie
have the dose in AM and the other half in the PM). The user can maintain
that doase for as long as they wish but, they have to know to come off the
higher doses much more slowly then they went up to the higher doses. ie : 1
week increasing daily dosage until the max desired dosafe is reached. Then
2-3 weeks at that dosage and finally dropping the daily dosage for a period
of 2 weeks. There are no hard and fast rules but you have an idea how it
works.

A good way to cycle Helios:

Clen/Yohimbine

WEEK 1 1/2 CC
WEEK 2 1 CC
WEEK 3 1.5 CC
WEEK 4 2 CC
WEEK 5 2.5 CC
WEEK 6 2 CC
WEEK 7 1 CC
WEEK 8 0.5 CC

T3

7 DAYS @ 12.5 MCG
5 DAYS @ 25 MCG
7 DAYS @ 50 MCG
5 DAYS @ 37.5 MCG
5 DAYS @ 25 MCG
5 DAYS @ 12.5 MCG
5 DAYS @ 6.25 MCG

Using it this way,is smart all around...i didn't feel any downfall once i
seized the T3,because the clen was being run until week 8...intensity in
the gym was still apparent all the way thru and didn't lose any of leaness
post cycle...a diet that worked well on this was the ISOCALORIC diet by Dan
Duchaine...

Inject the Clen/Yohim and drink the T3. Worked very well for me. I went as
high as 4cc's of each per day, but not for long, mostly was at 3cc's per
day with a long taper off

That's intense!  I got what I'm using for $8.99 at vitamin shoppe.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: newmom on September 07, 2011, 04:03:07 PM
Yohimbine HCl, yes, Yohimbe not.


I like the Yohimbine HCl, great fatburner, especially for lower back.

I know one person that has taken it, did wonders for his lower back waist area's. A friend of mine that's competing was thinking about it but she was leery because it's not all around just a spot reducer
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: WillGrant on September 07, 2011, 04:15:50 PM
A serious weightlifter TYPE?
On more whoremoans than any npc competitor  :-\ liars are what we dont like - your drug use is clear so why lie ? you will get more credit here for being honest about your use - I know some of you boys think that if you admit to it then the drugs will get the credit - thats not true here - we know that you still train hard etc and are dedicated to the lifestyle but its clear you are on drugs - its not natural to have that type of size and be lean - if you were just lean with a bit of size then yeah but not how you look.. so stop lying.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: adrain on September 07, 2011, 04:43:32 PM
On more whoremoans than any npc competitor  :-\ liars are what we dont like - your drug use is clear so why lie ? you will get more credit here for being honest about your use - I know some of you boys think that if you admit to it then the drugs will get the credit - thats not true here - we know that you still train hard etc and are dedicated to the lifestyle but its clear you are on drugs - its not natural to have that type of size and be lean - if you were just lean with a bit of size then yeah but not how you look.. so stop lying.
Will what does lying profit me? Nothing!  I'm not huge by any means  but training heavy for about 6yrs now I'd hope I've built some true muscle.  Now my focus is on improving details and quality It's an illusions being lean makes.(http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/08/31/11085693/profilepic/1FMOdGGPgKNOzaCOljWvbzoG2qvSpM1717.jpeg)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: tbombz on September 07, 2011, 04:44:29 PM
height and weight?
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: LittleJ on September 07, 2011, 04:51:10 PM
height and weight?

I believe him. I think he's like 6'3
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: calfzilla on September 07, 2011, 04:51:54 PM
I know one person that has taken it, did wonders for his lower back waist area's. A friend of mine that's competing was thinking about it but she was leery because it's not all around just a spot reducer

I believe that is because it targets estrogen dependent fat.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: newmom on September 07, 2011, 04:56:12 PM
I believe that is because it targets estrogen dependent fat.

I know, I showed her what I found
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: el numero uno on September 07, 2011, 04:57:09 PM
All natural?  :o
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: calfzilla on September 07, 2011, 05:03:17 PM
A few sips from the fountain between exercises should be enough pussy.

I agree the gallon milk jug is totally unnecessary. But just sipping from the fountain ain't enough either, just be a normal person and bring a bottle of water, 20oz to 1L.

Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 07, 2011, 06:11:10 PM
Why post a picture if all you wanted to do was ask amount a "supp"? Somebody needs some attention today.


Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Natural Man on September 07, 2011, 06:17:17 PM
amazing natural physique.


What gainer, protein powder and creatine brands you use "bro" ?





































































(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RbsTgkpM-jU/TVBA1MOXy6I/AAAAAAAAAGA/F0a7H_ZgT0s/s1600/retard-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: no one on September 07, 2011, 06:33:05 PM


natural.

 ::)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: DK II on September 07, 2011, 06:35:06 PM
amazing natural physique.


What gainer, protein powder and creatine brands you use "bro" ?



I doubt you would have to go to these extremes and use a gainer for this kind of physique.


(http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/09/06/11085693/profilepic/1UDaMvTFGtj2jINPgHoI2VMHyrBTUU0655.jpeg)


It's a great look, aestehtic everyday physique that everyone can appreciate, easy to maintain without a ton of drugs.  ;D
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: calfzilla on September 07, 2011, 06:36:51 PM
That's not Chris Bosh.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: apply85 on September 07, 2011, 06:37:19 PM
lol uberman is so much more potent when his posts are short
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Pet shop boys on September 07, 2011, 07:36:16 PM
Lol not really understanding the hate on the gallon of water.  I drink close to a gallon 1/2 at the gym, would be alot of time walking to a fountain.

But Do you suffer from cramps often?


WWoooshhhhh
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: GroinkTropin on September 07, 2011, 10:31:34 PM
Problem with yohimbine is that it is VERY sensitive to insulin. Essentially insulin completely blocks it's lipolytic effects. Even a tiny bit of insulin totally negates the product.

For best fat loss- 5-10mgs yohimbine hcl with 100-200mgs caffeine in the morning followed by fasted cardio for an hour or so, wait another 1-2 hours before eating ANYTHING. You may have BCAA's, that's about it.

Stuff is decent if you have stubborn fat, not good for much else.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Emmortal on September 07, 2011, 11:55:34 PM
that right there is the best fat burner on the market.  injectable clen+yohimbine hcl.....melts fat off like nothing else.

Cheapest yea, still like GH overall due to the other benefits of it, but definitely they do the job.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: hangclean on September 08, 2011, 12:19:21 AM
I know one person that has taken it, did wonders for his lower back waist area's. A friend of mine that's competing was thinking about it but she was leery because it's not all around just a spot reducer
helios not only for spot reduction.  In fact, it does nothing at all for spot reducing bodyfat.  However, when used with a keto diet (yohimbe only works for fat loss on a low/no carb diet) it will melt fat off you faster than anything.  I honestly found no difference between using clen/yohimbine hcl orally vs. the injectable.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Emmortal on September 08, 2011, 01:31:02 AM
helios not only for spot reduction.  In fact, it does nothing at all for spot reducing bodyfat.  However, when used with a keto diet (yohimbe only works for fat loss on a low/no carb diet) it will melt fat off you faster than anything.  I honestly found no difference between using clen/yohimbine hcl orally vs. the injectable.

This.  It was only nice because people started offering it to be sold as a combo together, you get the same effect taking the orals and there is no spot fat reduction, it's overal fat loss.  I always wanted to cycle this with EC while on Tren and GH to see just how crazy it would be.  Might have to do that when I get back to the states.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Meso_z on September 08, 2011, 01:55:57 AM
So you guys are saying that yoshimbe is stronger than ephedrine?
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Emmortal on September 08, 2011, 02:10:36 AM
So you guys are saying that yoshimbe is stronger than ephedrine?

Nah not by itself, helios for me worked better at getting the last bit of fat off where EC seemed to work better at the beginning of dieting.  That's just my own experience though.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: TRock99 on September 08, 2011, 07:51:42 AM
Dude could be natural....I've seen tons of dudes like him in the gym and streetz, who are natural
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: DK II on September 08, 2011, 07:52:22 AM
Dude could be natural....I've seen tons of dudes like him in the gym and streetz, who are natural

LOL, yeah right, "T-Roc"....  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Schmoff on September 08, 2011, 08:51:03 AM
Dude could be natural....I've seen tons of dudes like him in the gym and streetz, who are natural

how can you tell? just by seeing some strangers on the street who happened to have similar physique?

 ??? ???
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: DukeX on September 08, 2011, 12:05:20 PM
All the information you would ever need on yohimbine

http://forums.lylemcdonald.com/showthread.php?t=4076

Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: adrain on September 08, 2011, 01:27:01 PM
All the information you would ever need on yohimbine

http://forums.lylemcdonald.com/showthread.php?t=4076


Good info!  Thank you
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: adrain on September 26, 2011, 09:04:59 PM
Yohimbine progress!  The photo quality sucks but I only have my cell phone camera. (http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2011/09/26/11085693/profilepic/1nlu6KcTdq37AsIw6tHLXjrFJMW2175.jpeg)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: mitchyboy on September 26, 2011, 09:19:11 PM
One word...

FUCK YOU YOU MOTHER FUCKING LIAR ASSHAT. 8)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Primemuscle on September 26, 2011, 10:19:36 PM
How much water do I need to drink?

....As much as you think your body needs. Drink too much and you just pee it out. Just don't drink this much all day long. Some people suggest this flushes out your system too much messing with your electrolytes. You might consider drinking something that replaces electrolytes like Gatorade.

Some men take Yohimbe for erectile dysfunction. I don't about that other stuff you mentioned.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Meso_z on September 26, 2011, 10:21:36 PM
Hows the yohimbe cycle going bro? potent stuff?

Dont forget the pct afterwards.  ::)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Primemuscle on September 26, 2011, 10:27:15 PM
I agree the gallon milk jug is totally unnecessary. But just sipping from the fountain ain't enough either, just be a normal person and bring a bottle of water, 20oz to 1L.


I just bought a new water bottle for the gym. My old one was 32 oz. which was too much. Before my work out, I have a protein drink which is about 12 oz. I was having another one after the work out Man oh man, did I have to pee buckets! The new water bottle is 14 oz. which seem fine for an hour work out. Occasionally now, I have a protein bar instead of the drink after exercising. Sure helps with that need to pee.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Primemuscle on September 26, 2011, 10:31:16 PM
One word...

FUCK YOU YOU MOTHER FUCKING LIAR ASSHAT. 8)

That is seven words.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: dyslexic on September 26, 2011, 10:34:46 PM
That is seven words.


Possibly even eight...
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: adrain on September 26, 2011, 10:46:54 PM
One word...

FUCK YOU YOU MOTHER FUCKING LIAR ASSHAT. 8)
Ouch!
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: oliolioli on September 27, 2011, 02:09:00 AM
I think its possible for him to be natural, he's not in contest shape and he's not huge.  Elite genetics, there are those type of people out there.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: lovemonkey on September 27, 2011, 03:25:58 AM
I think its possible for him to be natural, he's not in contest shape and he's not huge.  Elite genetics, there are those type of people out there.

 ::)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: local hero on September 27, 2011, 04:09:41 AM
I think its possible for him to be natural, he's not in contest shape and he's not huge.  Elite genetics, there are those type of people out there.


you sir are an idiot, you have no idea about muscle or size.... pls kindly fuck off!!!
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: adrain on September 27, 2011, 07:39:15 AM
I think its possible for him to be natural, he's not in contest shape and he's not huge.  Elite genetics, there are those type of people out there.
I agree with you!  I'm somewhere in the middle good size good conditioning nothing extreme w
eitherway.  I'm not in contest shape yet but I'm not following a contest diet either.  To an extent I'm a believer in the calorie is a calorie.  Dont get me wrong most meals are clean meals but if I crave anythings throughout  the day then I have a small portion of it, the days I don't train I try and ignore the cravings since I won't be burning alot of cals these days.   I haven't done cardio in months  now I just take less time between sets while still lifting heavyweights.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: oliolioli on September 27, 2011, 08:07:31 AM

you sir are an idiot, you have no idea about muscle or size.... pls kindly fuck off!!!

No need to get angry, or get so personal.  He's not super lean.  If he was really lean and had the size, then yes, but he's not that lean.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Meso_z on September 27, 2011, 09:04:30 AM
I agree with you!  I'm somewhere in the middle good size good conditioning nothing extreme w
eitherway.  I'm not in contest shape yet but I'm not following a contest diet either.  To an extent I'm a believer in the calorie is a calorie.  Dont get me wrong most meals are clean meals but if I crave anythings throughout  the day then I have a small portion of it, the days I don't train I try and ignore the cravings since I won't be burning alot of cals these days.   I haven't done cardio in months  now I just take less time between sets while still lifting heavyweights.
How come im not surprised.  ::)
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: oliolioli on September 27, 2011, 09:32:24 AM
I agree with you!  I'm somewhere in the middle good size good conditioning nothing extreme w
eitherway.  I'm not in contest shape yet but I'm not following a contest diet either.  To an extent I'm a believer in the calorie is a calorie.  Dont get me wrong most meals are clean meals but if I crave anythings throughout  the day then I have a small portion of it, the days I don't train I try and ignore the cravings since I won't be burning alot of cals these days.   I haven't done cardio in months  now I just take less time between sets while still lifting heavyweights.

if you took roids you could be Mr. Olympia, you do know that, don't you?
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: adrain on September 27, 2011, 09:41:32 AM
if you took roids you could be Mr. Olympia, you do know that, don't you?
No I dont know that,  millions of ppl take roids and it's only one Mr. Olympia.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: oliolioli on September 27, 2011, 09:46:09 AM
No I dont know that,  millions of ppl take roids and it's only one Mr. Olympia.

But none of them looked the way you do as a natural.  Look at Phil Heath, when he was in college he looked tiny compared to you and he was already training for many years.  You look amazing as a natural, if you took just a small amount you would be enormous, if you took what the pros take you would be unearthly.
Title: Re: Yohimbe?
Post by: Meso_z on September 27, 2011, 10:13:51 AM
You two should get a room.  ::)