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I know you guys get pissed when people post shit without commenting, but... No comment...
Ben Swann Reality Check takes a look at how the most controversial rule change in party history was not legitimately passed.
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Good. Im glad they caught that shit on the teleprompter. Maybe now people will take the corruption in this party seriously. Im not holding my breath, however.
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Thanks for the Sticky Beach Bum!!! ;D ;D ;D
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!!
The teleprompter already had the determined vote? (3:22 to 3:41 in the vid) SOBS You have got to be fucking shitting me. This is huge.
Fine, I'll vote for Romney, if you guys have the fucking balls to give a shit about crap like this. Because if you don't, you people lose your voice! That's not what I'm saying, that's what is clearly stated in the recent action taken. If you don't bitch about this.... wtf...
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!!
The teleprompter already had the determined vote? You have got to be fucking shitting me. This is huge.
Fine, I'll vote for Romney, if you guys have the fucking balls to give a shit about crap like this. Because if you don't, you people lose your voice! That's not what I'm saying, that's what is clearly stated in the recent action taken. If you don't bitch about this.... wtf...
This is so blatant, and only one LOCAL news anchor in the entire country is reporting on it.
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The bus wouldn't let them off, this is almost comical!!!
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This is so blatant, and only one LOCAL news anchor in the entire country is reporting on it.
I've been shocked this guy still has a job for a long time. After each vid I see from him, I figure, that's it, he's fired. He's been consistently one of the most honest people in the media. He's had a few small errors but overall I say we need more like him!!!!
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Thanks for the Sticky Beach Bum!!! ;D ;D ;D
Yes, kudos to Beach Bum for having the balls to sticky something like this!!! Good for you BB!!! :D
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I've been shocked this guy still has a job for a long time. After each vid I see from him, I figure, that's it, he's fired. He's been consistently one of the most honest people in the media. He's had a few small errors but overall I say we need more like him!!!!
Ben Swann, I have the honor of watching him locally. 8)
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The sorry fact is come tomorrow this thread will not have any serious replies and left with very few having a beef against what happend.
Yes, it's an easy to manipulate sick and twisted world where everyone only cares about what effects them in the moment. They don't give a fucking rat's ass about their kids or your kids or our future.
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The sorry fact is come tomorrow this thread will not have any serious replies and left with very few having a beef against what happend.
Yes, it's an easy to manipulate sick and twisted world where everyone only cares about what effects them in the moment. They don't give a fucking rat's ass about their kids or your kids or our future.
It's a shame, but I believe I'm coming to terms with this fact. Would have been much easier had I been taught how things really worked when I was 13 or 14.
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Im so jaded anymore I don't even know what to say.
I want to get righteously outraged, but all I can do is shake my head and laugh, its so blatantly pathetic and no one seems to give a fuck.
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Dictatorship?
No one but a sheep would vote aye on that rule.
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Dictatorship?
No one but a sheep would vote aye on that rule.
Funny you say that...
I don't have a problem with whatever they did to prevent a handful of unreasonable people from trying to disrupt the convention. Ron Paul isn't supporting the Republican nominee, again, and I doubt many of supporters will either. All they really wanted to do was put on a show.
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Republicans. What do you expect? They haven`t been sensible since the 60s, with Barry Goldwater. Now they hate him and his type.
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I don't think I have ever seen such a mockery made of the voting system. Boehner should be ashamed, embarras'd, and should most likely commit seppuku.
(http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples_resource/image/thumb/9309)
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Republicans. What do you expect? They haven`t been sensible since the 60s, with Barry Goldwater. Now they hate him and his type.
WTF do you mean by that? and BTW...when Goldwater was running for president the liberals portrayed him as a nut who was goig to blow the world up.
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Lol, and I was mocked on here by a few individuals when I stated this whole process is a farce. guys, please like Benn Swans Facebook page, he is a great guy, well informed and deserves to have a great career in a field full of dipshits. I'm glad that at least a few of you are aware and as angry as I am. Unfortunately no amount of evidence of corruption will change the minds of some of more dense conservative douchbags that support this shit party.
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Michelle Malkin joins Ron Paul, Morton Blackwell, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, Freedomworks and many other conservatives in denouncing the RNC's despicable rules changes.
http://michellemalkin.com/2012/08/29/rnc-power-grab-the-aftermath/
RNC power grab: the aftermath
By Michelle Malkin • August 29, 2012 12:39 PM
There were several inspiring speeches delivered at last night’s Republican National Convention. Talk of “unity” filled the air. Many GOP leaders praised the “grass-roots.” But behind the scenes, the RNC power grab has exacerbated distrust between a diverse group of rank-and-file activists and party bosses.
I have no patience for the Republican party-bots telling these front-line soldiers to shut up in the name of unity — and to hide “in-fighting” because the Left will publicize it. It should be publicized. Conservative activists and Tea Party members have worked their asses off within the system, doing the groundwork of righting the wayward GOP ship from the inside. These are the door-knockers, sign-makers, phone-bankers, and message-spreaders who fueled the Tea Party revolution and who enabled the 2010 GOP midterm victories. They fought for and earned their place at the table.
I also have no patience for the sideline-sitters who gripe that rules fights are booooooring and meaningless. The Tea Party conservative activists are doing what an effective movement is supposed to be: They’ve moved on from protests and rallies to the nuts and bolts of party politics. These battles matter, because exercising grass-roots muscles makes them stronger.
Finally, I have no patience for the addled critics who think we are unable to multi-task. Yes, you can criticize bad GOP maneuvers AND maintain the fight against Obama and the progressives at the same time! It’s easy if you try.
Below, I’m reprinting the after-action report from veteran conservative blogger and South Carolina GOP activist Drew McKissick, who first alerted me to the battle earlier this week.
The bottom line: Get organized, get loud, and stay vigilant. No matter who ends up in the White House in January, no matter what letter follows the names of the people in power in Washington, the grass-roots conservative movement must be prepared to stand its ground. Forewarned is forearmed.
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RNC "Scripted" Rules Change. Result of the AYE//NAY vote was entered into teleprompter before vote was taken!
This will prevent there from ever being another Reagan - It'll all be the pre-selected candidate..
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guess I need to sticky for another day
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guess I need to sticky for another day
I appreciate it, more interest than I expected.
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anybody notice who is absent this thread lol? go figure huh.... Sad shit when you're expected to be honest but they take off like a misfired bullet. ::) oh sorry, I guess that's just called crickets lol...
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I'm looking fwd to listening to Rush tomorrow. I hope this issue doesn't just disappear in the week of trashing the DNC then job numbers.
Repubs have just ended another Ron paul or reagan kind of run. There can't be a Rand Paul in 2016 or 2020... UNLESS the party rulemakers allow it. RPaul has 7 states, and the rules only required 5. SO the GOP made the bus circle the building while they changed the rules to 8, did a sham vote on it (with the results in the teleprompter BEFORE the vote takes place).
I think it'll be "anybody but obama" in the election for most - but those really pissed ron paul fans are the ones who would typically be the most active on election day. PASSION in your supporters is something you want. the GOP crushed a lot of their spirits by not letting ron paul have a moment in the sun to be recognized for all he did in 2012 race.
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The GOP is a disgrace.
Seriously they make the dem look like Saints.
Screwing the american people and their representives.
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The GOP lost my vote this year with this bullshit, I was going to suck it up and vote Romney, now I'm going to write in "Rob".
Seriously. And this isn't about Ron Paul, this is about the establishment thinking it can do whatever the fuck it wants to get its way. Im sure the GOP will lose many other votes with this bullshit.
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I'm looking fwd to listening to Rush tomorrow. I hope this issue doesn't just disappear in the week of trashing the DNC then job numbers.
Repubs have just ended another Ron paul or reagan kind of run. There can't be a Rand Paul in 2016 or 2020... UNLESS the party rulemakers allow it. RPaul has 7 states, and the rules only required 5. SO the GOP made the bus circle the building while they changed the rules to 8, did a sham vote on it (with the results in the teleprompter BEFORE the vote takes place).
I think it'll be "anybody but obama" in the election for most - but those really pissed ron paul fans are the ones who would typically be the most active on election day. PASSION in your supporters is something you want. the GOP crushed a lot of their spirits by not letting ron paul have a moment in the sun to be recognized for all he did in 2012 race.
Ron Paul's fans did not show up for him in the primaries, they mostly scream in the internet and stay home on the couch while trashing the GOP and really don't give a damn if Obama gets four more years and have no say whatsoever in ther party.
dumb dumb dumb dumb are the ron paul fanatics.
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Ron Paul's fans did not show up for him in the primaries, they mostly scream in the internet and stay home on the couch while trashing the GOP and really don't give a damn if Obama gets four more years and have no say whatsoever in ther party.
dumb dumb dumb dumb are the ron paul fanatics.
that's not the point. The point is that ron paul DID meet the rule requirement of 5 states. He had 7.
So they changed it to 8. On the spot. While the man who could have prevented this was held on a bus circling the place until it was over.
You don't see that as some shady shit, suppressing the voice of the true conservatives of the party? Cause anyone who is play with it now should be okay with it, should Jeb Bush use it to shut down Rubio, Christie, or anyone else in 2016 or 2020.
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that's not the point. The point is that ron paul DID meet the rule requirement of 5 states. He had 7.
So they changed it to 8. On the spot. While the man who could have prevented this was held on a bus circling the place until it was over.
You don't see that as some shady shit, suppressing the voice of the true conservatives of the party? Cause anyone who is play with it now should be okay with it, should Jeb Bush use it to shut down Rubio, Christie, or anyone else in 2016 or 2020.
Yes it was shady shit and I don't like it one bit.
I know what they were trying to do and am somewhat sympathetic since Ron Paul's fanatics were threatening to take over the convention and turn it into a complete fiasco all while Ron paul himself would not even commit to voting for the GOP nominee regardless of who was picked.
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Yes it was shady shit and I don't like it one bit.
I know what they were trying to do and am somewhat sympathetic since Ron Paul's fanatics were threatening to take over the convention and turn it into a complete fiasco all while Ron paul himself would not even commit to voting for the GOP nominee regardless of who was picked.
They set a really bad precedent though.
If it's close in 2020... and you have a 'start 3 wars' Jeb against a tea party Rubio... and "the Party" prefers Jeb, they can change it from 8, to 12, or 18, or 22 states.
They can do it on the fly. That is scary. Did you watch the video I posted? Very pro-tea party clip... but it shows John Boehnner reading the results of the vote from a prompter - before the crowd voted. The "Nays" were louder on the cell phone clips, you'll notice. But he read "The Ayes have it" beceuase it was already decided.
I know, in the name of unity, many will say "it's cool, it's only Ron Paul"... But when Jeb or some establishment dude does this, and squashes a Christie, Rubio, or a Rand Paul next time... allowing this precedent will bite repubs in the butt. That's all I'm saying.
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I'm not disagreeing, but I don't remember a situation like this to where someone who came in last was on the verge of causing such a fiasco in prime time and not even saying he will vote for the ticket when he ran in the GOP primary!
Ron Paul really has only himself to blame and I am not really sympathetic anymore as I once was. Yes, this was slimy bs. Yes it makes me sick.
But if I were running shit and had someone who came in last and was trying to cause such a mess I probably would have done the same thing.
They set a really bad precedent though.
If it's close in 2020... and you have a 'start 3 wars' Jeb against a tea party Rubio... and "the Party" prefers Jeb, they can change it from 8, to 12, or 18, or 22 states.
They can do it on the fly. That is scary. Did you watch the video I posted? Very pro-tea party clip... but it shows John Boehnner reading the results of the vote from a prompter - before the crowd voted. The "Nays" were louder on the cell phone clips, you'll notice. But he read "The Ayes have it" beceuase it was already decided.
I know, in the name of unity, many will say "it's cool, it's only Ron Paul"... But when Jeb or some establishment dude does this, and squashes a Christie, Rubio, or a Rand Paul next time... allowing this precedent will bite repubs in the butt. That's all I'm saying.
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Go fuck yourself 333...
Dont ever come and complain about Obama taking away your "rights" again.
You have eaten the republican dick all the way now.
You are now a full-blood Neocon as i have claimed so many times.
Obama is a libertarian compared to you. You are now everything you hate. Congrats
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Go fuck yourself 333...
Dont ever come and complain about Obama taking away your "rights" again.
You have eaten the republican dick all the way now.
You are now a full-blood Neocon as i have claimed so many times.
Obama is a libertarian compared to you. You are now everything you hate. Congrats
http://www.usdebtclock.org
Debt to reach 16 Trillion as Obama tyakes stage.
More Obama debt in 3 years than 8 years of Bush.
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The GOP lost my vote this year with this bullshit, I was going to suck it up and vote Romney, now I'm going to write in "Rob".
Seriously. And this isn't about Ron Paul, this is about the establishment thinking it can do whatever the fuck it wants to get its way. Im sure the GOP will lose many other votes with this bullshit.
I'm wondering if I should just sit this one out as well? It's absolutely sicking...
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http://www.usdebtclock.org
Debt to reach 16 Trillion as Obama tyakes stage.
More Obama debt in 3 years than 8 years of Bush.
Haha nice try to change the topic.
You sold out and all you can is post some Obama shit.
What are you gonna do when he is gone?
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Haha nice try to change the topic.
You sold out and all you can is post some Obama shit.
What are you gonna do when he is gone?
STFU troll. I am ABO. Thug must be ousted
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But if I were running shit and had someone who came in last and was trying to cause such a mess I probably would have done the same thing.
The GOP let Eastwood upstage Romney with a really mixed up rant that was mocked and actually ignored by the GOP on video. So they clearly have no problem allowing high profile distractions.
Ron Paul... All his supporters (most of them) wanted was to let the nation know the RP message.
They knew he wasn't going to win the nomination. Just let them hav 5 minutes to talk about their anti-spending campaign, and recognize all their hard work to reach that point with the 7 states - that's quite impressive. We already know Mitt may bring new confidence and some changes, but we can all admit he's not going to slash spending dude. He's a big govt republican.
GOP destroyed Rand, Rubio, Christie, and whoever else in 2016 or 2020. At this point, you pick the lukewarm frontrunner for next time, THAT is the guy you'll get. Primary won't matter. Let Huntsmann or whoever outspend ppl for 3 states and it's over.
Leaving the dude on the bus? Putting the vote results on a teleprompter before they were taken? Those weren't ron paul mistakes - those were GOP being not of/for the people, but rather quietly managing the people for the message they wanted.
Not good to bash the base. if they don't turn out in november to vote - now we can point at this convention and say this is why :(
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Most were not voting anyway I dont oike it. But the big picture is what matters
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Most were not voting anyway I dont oike it. But the big picture is what matters
Most of the far-right conservatives that worked tirelessly to get ron paul elected, who fought to attend the convention, and fought to have their message heard - MOST of them were not voting anyway?
I think they'd be MORE likely to vote in 2012 - they obviously care a lot about the political process.
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Most of the far-right conservatives that worked tirelessly to get ron paul elected, who fought to attend the convention, and fought to have their message heard - MOST of them were not voting anyway?
I think they'd be MORE likely to vote in 2012 - they obviously care a lot about the political process.
They were there to up end the convention
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They were there to up end the convention
and romney could have used their passion.
imagine him walking into the RP supporters with a mic, embracing ron paul, and saying 'listen, i'm gonna make this man the chairman of the fed if I'm elected"...
WOW, they'd be sending money bombs, they'd be throwing tomatoes at joe biden, they'd be working tirelessly to get romney elected as we speak.
instead, he let Boehnner punk them. I guess we'll see if it affect the election, but remember - 18% of 2004 GOP voters stayed home in 2008... that means 1 in 6 repub voters will just not bother if they're pissed or annoyed. Dissing these ppl might end up being a big deal if people stay home.
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and romney could have used their passion.
imagine him walking into the RP supporters with a mic, embracing ron paul, and saying 'listen, i'm gonna make this man the chairman of the fed if I'm elected"...
WOW, they'd be sending money bombs, they'd be throwing tomatoes at joe biden, they'd be working tirelessly to get romney elected as we speak.
instead, he let Boehnner punk them. I guess we'll see if it affect the election, but remember - 18% of 2004 GOP voters stayed home in 2008... that means 1 in 6 repub voters will just not bother if they're pissed or annoyed. Dissing these ppl might end up being a big deal if people stay home.
I would vote Romney if that happened. Fucking awesome
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I agree. I am disgusted all around by how this was handled.
and romney could have used their passion.
imagine him walking into the RP supporters with a mic, embracing ron paul, and saying 'listen, i'm gonna make this man the chairman of the fed if I'm elected"...
WOW, they'd be sending money bombs, they'd be throwing tomatoes at joe biden, they'd be working tirelessly to get romney elected as we speak.
instead, he let Boehnner punk them. I guess we'll see if it affect the election, but remember - 18% of 2004 GOP voters stayed home in 2008... that means 1 in 6 repub voters will just not bother if they're pissed or annoyed. Dissing these ppl might end up being a big deal if people stay home.
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I agree. I am disgusted all around by how this was handled.
Thank you