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Title: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 03, 2009, 02:06:02 PM
today's poll


88% believe Obama outright inherited this financial mess.

6% believe Obama caused the financial crisis.
Title: Re: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: headhuntersix on March 03, 2009, 02:09:37 PM
By whom....what was the questioning. But I'll make it simple..who?
Title: Re: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 03, 2009, 02:38:51 PM
hardball cited it - wash post i think, but not sure. 

surely you can't doubt it... most repubs aren't going to say this mess started solely with obama.
Title: Re: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on March 03, 2009, 02:41:11 PM
If Obama really wanted to go down in History in a positive way, he should have let McCain win so everyone would say "damn, we should have voted for Obama" look at the mess McCain has caused.

Title: Re: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: tonymctones on March 03, 2009, 03:07:20 PM
who has blamed obama for the situation we are in? he's actions thus far could be argued to have made it worse but who is argueing that obama created this?
Title: Re: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 03, 2009, 03:11:41 PM
who has blamed obama for the situation we are in? he's actions thus far could be argued to have made it worse but who is argueing that obama created this?

6% of americans completely blame him.
6% of americans say bush is blameless.
Title: Re: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: tonymctones on March 03, 2009, 03:18:20 PM
6% of americans completely blame him.
6% of americans say bush is blameless.
LOL hahaha your ignorance is astounding but especially in the areas of polling...you got this from a poll you never saw only what was inturpreted by MSNBC and you expect us to take your word on it? HAHAHAHAHA you spin more then an ice skater bro...please link me to this poll
Title: Re: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 03, 2009, 03:30:19 PM
LOL hahaha your ignorance is astounding but especially in the areas of polling...you got this from a poll you never saw only what was inturpreted by MSNBC and you expect us to take your word on it? HAHAHAHAHA you spin more then an ice skater bro...please link me to this poll

first, wager me $1 that it's false.  This way, it's worth my time to google hardball's replay from tonight, find the exact time, etc.

or, it'll be on in 27 minutes, if anyone here is watching.  At 7:05 PM EST, and again at 12:05 AM EST, you can view it again :) :) :)
Title: Re: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: tonymctones on March 03, 2009, 03:45:06 PM
first, wager me $1 that it's false.  This way, it's worth my time to google hardball's replay from tonight, find the exact time, etc.

or, it'll be on in 27 minutes, if anyone here is watching.  At 7:05 PM EST, and again at 12:05 AM EST, you can view it again :) :) :)
i dont want msnbc's spin on it i want the actual poll
Title: Re: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 03, 2009, 04:16:22 PM
i dont want msnbc's spin on it i want the actual poll

mcn listed the actual poll.  Did you watch hardball?  Are you up for wagering $1?
Title: Re: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: tonymctones on March 03, 2009, 04:22:33 PM
mcn listed the actual poll.  Did you watch hardball?  Are you up for wagering $1?
no i didnt watch hardball, what are we wagering for?
Title: Re: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 03, 2009, 05:46:15 PM
Thats a question for idiots, way too simplistic.  A president does not completely cause a recession.  This recession is because of the collapse of the financial markets and the banks.  Fault the democrats for ignoring warnings by congress and because of the program that forced lenders to loan to people that weren't qualified, fault the republicans and Bush for not enough oversight of the banking system (along with Barney Frank), fault Americans whose culture has changed for the worse, fault Bush more for wasting our $ in Iraq and fault Obama partly for the recent drops because he is pushing a socialist system that wall street doesn't like and is promoting the largest deficit spending we have ever seen.
Title: Re: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: The ChemistV2 on March 03, 2009, 05:48:46 PM
Thats a question for idiots, way too simplistic.  A president does not completely cause a recession.  This recession is because of the collapse of the financial markets and the banks.  Fault the democrats for ignoring warnings by congress and because of the program that forced lenders to loan to people that weren't qualified, fault the republicans and Bush for not enough oversight of the banking system (along with Barney Frank), fault Americans whose culture has changed for the worse, fault Bush more for wasting our $ in Iraq and fault Obama partly for the recent drops because he is pushing a socialist system that wall street doesn't like and is promoting the largest deficit spending we have ever seen.
Excellent post. Hit a lot of good points there.
Title: Re: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: shootfighter1 on March 03, 2009, 06:01:28 PM
Thanks Chemist.  Thats why I hate these f'n polls.  Only idiots can answer that kind of simplistic question.  Its way more complicated but the average American attention span won't allow most people to look a little deeper.  Its still cool to blame Bush for everything....but in 4-6 months when the economy is still rough, Obama must receive part of the blame for not doing the right things to help us out.
Title: Re: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: tonymctones on March 03, 2009, 06:08:54 PM
Thanks Chemist.  Thats why I hate these f'n polls.  Only idiots can answer that kind of simplistic question.  Its way more complicated but the average American attention span won't allow most people to look a little deeper.  Its still cool to blame Bush for everything....but in 4-6 months when the economy is still rough, Obama must receive part of the blame for not doing the right things to help us out.
exactly why I asked for the poll b/c likely they asked the question and gave 2 possible answers limiting ppls response.
Title: Re: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: BayGBM on March 03, 2009, 06:33:07 PM
today's poll


88% believe Obama outright inherited this financial mess.

6% believe Obama caused the financial crisis.


LOL  ::)
Title: Re: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: The Coach on March 03, 2009, 06:34:58 PM
first, wager me $1 that it's false.  This way, it's worth my time to google hardball's replay from tonight, find the exact time, etc.

or, it'll be on in 27 minutes, if anyone here is watching.  At 7:05 PM EST, and again at 12:05 AM EST, you can view it again :) :) :)

That just lost you all credibility.

Title: Re: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: gordiano on March 03, 2009, 06:49:29 PM
Thats a question for idiots, way too simplistic.  A president does not completely cause a recession.  This recession is because of the collapse of the financial markets and the banks.  Fault the democrats for ignoring warnings by congress and because of the program that forced lenders to loan to people that weren't qualified, fault the republicans and Bush for not enough oversight of the banking system (along with Barney Frank), fault Americans whose culture has changed for the worse, fault Bush more for wasting our $ in Iraq and fault Obama partly for the recent drops because he is pushing a socialist system that wall street doesn't like and is promoting the largest deficit spending we have ever seen.

Agreed. There's plenty of blame to go around. You can't really pin it all on one action or one person. Regardless of what we may believe, the question now is....can it be fixed? If so, how?
Title: Re: Current economic shape? place the blame!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 03, 2009, 06:49:36 PM
today's poll


88% believe Obama outright inherited this financial mess.

6% believe Obama caused the financial crisis.

Well Jim Cramer nailed it.  

Obama is causing this mess to become a catastrophe.

Card check is next week or two and even George McGiovern said it is a disaster for business.