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http://www.mcgill.ca/channels/news/global-warming-just-giant-natural-fluctuation-235236
They say that they are 99% certain it is man made, the ruled it out using"stats" and "facts".
Al gore is 99% certain he is rich.
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Bad thread.
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Bad thread.
Yes, global warming is a hoax.
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Prove mankind's impact or GTFO
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I think that anyone with two eyes should be able to see that burning a bllion gallons of gasoline each and every day will eventually cause some major climate change.
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Climate Change Debate:
Getbiggers say no< 98% of the scientific communities says yes.
Who to believe?
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Considering all of these "scientists" are on the government dole, what would you expect them to conclude. Hoax. People who believe this shit are the same ones who believe Obama is a good (well, whatever he does. (Golf? Basketball?)
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Another excuse to tax people. Unfortunately the gullible suck this shit up and we all have to pay for their naivety.
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The fact that people asking questions about AGW are called all sorts of derogatory names are absolute reason to believe that bullshit is abound. Today there's an article about how to 'shut down a skeptic'. Apparently the 'science' is now conclusive and you're not allowed to 'deny' any more :D
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It's even funnier when the lefties make an issue of "climate change" in the middle of summer. Hahaha
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Btw, when did 'Global Warming' become 'Climate Change'?
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Btw, when did 'Global Warming' become 'Climate Change'?
Who knows. It's bullshit ploy to make it sound nicer. We climate change everyday. It's a known fact it's warmer during the day than it is at night.
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Let's take climate change, I ain't scared. My car also has AC.
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Considering all of these "scientists" are on the government dole, what would you expect them to conclude. Hoax. People who believe this shit are the same ones who believe Obama is a good (well, whatever he does. (Golf? Basketball?)Here comes the Fox News watching knuckle dragger.
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If you can prove me wrong then go for it puppet. Did I forget to mention that Denver is expecting 6-8" of snow In the next couple of days...Derp!
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Out of curiosity... what is Bushit?
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Out of curiosity... what is Bushit?
Sound it out.
Coach, have you heard of a university? do you think that is government funded?
Coach are you retarded, or have something done to your chromosomes? You sound like a complete retard. You are against scientists because they are on the government dole lololololololol. It's liberal science
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Sound it out.
Coach, have you heard of a university? do you think that is government funded?
Coach are you retarded, or have something done to your chromosomes? You sound like a complete retard. You are against scientists because they are on the government dole lololololololol. It's liberal science
Yes, because we all know their science is the be all to end all while the science that contradicts what your science says is bullshit...right? And I'm the retard.
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If you can prove me wrong then go for it puppet. Did I forget to mention that Denver is expecting 6-8" of snow In the next couple of days...Derp!
I think part of the opposition to "global warming" is the name. It should actually be called climate change. Since the Earth is a closed system, if some areas get unusually warmer that will in turn cause other areas to get unusually colder. Ocean currents drive worldwide weather patterns, and changes in the temperature of the water and of the air above the water can cause profound changes in worldwide weather patterns.
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Who knows. It's bullshit ploy to make it sound nicer. We climate change everyday. It's a known fact it's warmer during the day than it is at night.
This is the same guy that juices his wife to the gills and has the gall to call her a "natural".
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Btw, when did 'Global Warming' become 'Climate Change'?
I think the title 'climate change' is supposed to more accurately reflect what's happening, such as increases in the frequency and severity of natural disasters. Global warming just means the earth is warmer. Climate change takes everything into consideration. I think that's the reason behind the name change.
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This is the same guy that juices his wife to the gills and has the gall to call her a "natural".
See people. This is what libs do when they can't defend themselves.
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Is the Earth's climate not supposed to change? Is it supposed to be constant?
If so, why did the climate change drastically in the billions of years before people showed up?
"Global Warming" or what ever the fuck you want to call it is about money. It's a backdoor way for the government to rob people and businesses and undermine capitalism.
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See people. This is what libs do when they can't defend themselves.
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The only "good" thing about climate change is that it's a fact. The great thing about facts is that you don't have to argue them.
Just like it's a fact you pushed drugs on your poor wife and are now you're ashamed to admit it. Poor dude.
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Is the Earth's climate not supposed to change? Is it supposed to be constant?
If so, why did the climate change drastically in the billions of years before people showed up?
"Global Warming" or what ever the fuck you want to call it is about money. It's a backdoor way for the government to rob people and businesses and undermine capitalism.
The Earth's climate is constantly changing and has been for the last 4.5 billion years. The issue is that man-made pollutants are drastically accelerating climate change. The first combustion-engine car was made 128 years ago. In that time man-made CO2 emissions have gone from essentially 0 (there was already a small amount of CO2 in the air because of the Industrial Revolution, but a minute amount by today's standards) to 400 PPM as of 3/2014, the highest level yet recorded by NOAA. Regardless of whether one is a conservative or a liberal, climate change is very real and could have will have severe economic consequences.
http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/ghgemissions/gases/co2.html (http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/ghgemissions/gases/co2.html)
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The great thing about climate change is it's a fact. The great thing about facts is that you don't have to argue them.
Just like it's a fact you pushed drugs on your poor wife and are now you're ashamed to admit it. Poor dude.
You're one of these little cocksuckers who takes personal shots at the family. Like Obama, I would so sincerely love to kick the holy hell out of you on video and post it. Kill yourself lib.
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Is the Earth's climate not supposed to change? Is it supposed to be constant?
If so, why did the climate change drastically in the billions of years before people showed up?
"Global Warming" or what ever the fuck you want to call it is about money. It's a backdoor way for the government to rob people and businesses and undermine capitalism.
I live about 1,000 feet above sea level and I have sea shells in my backyard. The Only Thing That Is Constant Is Change.
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The Earth's climate is constantly changing and has been for the last 4.5 billion years. The issue is that man-made pollutants are drastically accelerating climate change. The first combustion-engine car was made 128 years ago. In that time man-made CO2 emissions have gone from essentially 0 (there was already a small amount of CO2 in the air because of the Industrial Revolution, but a minute amount by today's standards) to 400 PPM as of 3/2014, the highest level yet recorded by NOAA. Regardless of whether one is a conservative or a liberal, climate change is very real and could have severe economic consequences.
http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/ghgemissions/gases/co2.html (http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/ghgemissions/gases/co2.html)
And what bulletproof method are we using to determine the normal rate of "climate change" and the extent at which we are accelerating it? Secondly, if the climate is going to change anyway, who gives a fuck if we make it change faster? Also, this entire theory is based on C02? I've read that the percentage of C02 in the Earth's atmosphere that is man made equals about 3% of the total. A drop in the atmospheric bucket.
Regardless, it's cyclical and it's been cyclical since the beginning of time. Air pollution is bad and we need to work to fix that issue. As technology increases I'm sure that we will do just that. There's no need to rearrange our lives and our economy because of it.
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And what bulletproof method are we using to determine the normal rate of "climate change" and the extent at which we are accelerating it?
It's called "science"
Secondly, if the climate is going to change anyway, who gives a fuck if we make it change faster?
Because it will affect my children and yours
Regardless, it's cyclical and it's been cyclical since the beginning of time.
No, combustion engines have not been polluting the air since "the beginning of time"
There's no need to rearrange our lives and our economy because of it.
The affects of climate change will "rearrange" the economy if it follows the present course. To NOT affect the economy changes need to be made now. Smaller more efficient engines, start-stop ignition systems, and hybrid/electric vehicles are all technologies that can reduce emissions and CO2 levels. The biggest change has to be in consumer behavior.
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It's called "science"
Because it will affect my children and yours
No, combustion engines have not been polluting the air since "the beginning of time"
The affects of climate change will "rearrange" the economy if it follows the present course. To NOT affect the economy changes need to be made now. Smaller more efficient engines, start-stop ignition systems, and hybrid/electric vehicles are all technologies that can reduce emissions and CO2 levels. The biggest change has to be in consumer behavior.
Let me spell it out for you. Read slowly. Climate change has been cyclical since the beginning of time, not combustion engines.
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I live about 1,000 feet above sea level and I have sea shells in my backyard. The Only Thing That Is Constant Is Change.
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depending on where you live, you can probably thank the global flood that happened 4,500 years ago for that. (Think: Noah)
Jesus said that in the end times there will be all kinds of natural disasters as a result of mans sinfulness.
IMO, climate change is part of that. (We are called to be good stewards.)
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Let me spell it out for you. Read slowly. Climate change has been cyclical since the beginning of time, not combustion engines.
Read slowly. Current levels of man-made CO2 are the issue, not natural levels of CO2. Do you understand now?
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And what bulletproof method are we using to determine the normal rate of "climate change" and the extent at which we are accelerating it? Secondly, if the climate is going to change anyway, who gives a fuck if we make it change faster? Also, this entire theory is based on C02? I've read that the percentage of C02 in the Earth's atmosphere that is man made equals about 3% of the total. A drop in the atmospheric bucket.
Regardless, it's cyclical and it's been cyclical since the beginning of time. Air pollution is bad and we need to work to fix that issue. As technology increases I'm sure that we will do just that. There's no need to rearrange our lives and our economy because of it.
3% is a drop in the atmospheric bucket, sure. Doesn't mean that affecting that 3% is inconsequential...if a tiny bit of cyanide was added to a body, while the amount would be small, it surely wouldn't be inconsequential.
Regardless of whether or not climate change is "real," I don't believe in trashing things. It's more expensive to be green? It's only more expensive when that green label is used to sell a product. The "green" label is a value to the consumer, meaning that the seller can tack on additional costs. Using less water, reusing containers, buying products with less packaging, biking to work, buying used rather than new, keeping your AC/heat on low ....these are all cost saving measures.
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Read slowly. Current levels of man-made CO2 is the issue, not natural levels of CO2. Do you understand now?
There's no scientific proof that mankind's co2 emissions have any effect on what appears to some in the scientific community to be a natural cycle.
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Regardless of whether or not climate change is "real," I don't believe in trashing things. It's more expensive to be green? It's only more expensive when that green label is used to sell a product. The "green" label is a value to the consumer, meaning that the seller can tack on additional costs. Using less water, reusing containers, buying products with less packaging, biking to work, buying used rather than new, keeping your AC/heat on low ....these are all cost saving measures.
You're right about that. No one likes excessive pollution. The bad thing about "the coming ice age", then "Global Warming", then "Climate Change" is that it's being used by big government worldwide to abuse and control us.
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There's no scientific proof that mankind's co2 emissions have any effect on what appears to some in the scientific community to be a natural cycle.
There is ample scientific proof. Also, do you really think that all the pollutants that are emitted 24 hours a day all around the globe have zero effect on the environment and the atmosphere?
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You're right about that. No one likes excessive pollution. The bad thing about "the coming ice age", then "Global Warming", then "Climate Change" is that it's being used by big government worldwide to abuse and control us.
How/why do you say that? I'd think that reckless consumerism (which would drive climate change) would be something that would be getting pushed
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There is ample scientific proof
There's absulutly no empirical evidence that mankind has any effect on global warming I mean climate change.
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How/why do you say that? I'd think that reckless consumerism (which would drive climate change) would be something that would be getting pushed
Carbon Tax, UN Agenda 21, etc.... It's well documented
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Carbon Tax, UN Agenda 21, etc.... It's well documented
Deets on those? I want to see where you're coming from
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do you really think that all the pollutants that are emitted 24 hours a day all around the globe have zero effect on the environment and the atmosphere?
STRAWMAN
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Deets on those? I want to see where you're coming from
The powers that be have never seemed to care about the environment, they've proven that over and over. Like you said, it seems like they would encourage over consumption. It's very interesting how suddenly their pushing this catastrophic global warming so hard. There's more evidence of the scientific community being compromised and manipulated by funding than there is that man has any substantial effect on climate change.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2012/05/22/how-big-oil-benefits-from-global-warming-alarmism/
I know Glenn Beck is kind of nutty but this is interesting:
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Science is great. I'm a big fan of science. However, scientists are wrong about stuff all the fucking time. Then when you factor in that this particular issue is very political, forgive me if I have my doubts. There is a lot going on in the world right now and if there is one thing that I've learned it's that nothing is what it seems.
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Science is great. I'm a big fan of science. However, scientists are wrong about stuff all the fucking time. Then when you factor in that this particular issue is very political, forgive me if I have my doubts. There is a lot going on in the world right now and if there is one thing that I've learned it's that nothing is what it seems.
THIS
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depending on where you live, you can probably thank the global flood that happened 4,500 years ago for that. (Think: Noah)
I don't think this is even believed by many/most Christians anymore.
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There's no scientific proof that mankind's co2 emissions have any effect on what appears to some in the scientific community to be a natural cycle.
How can you say this when the artile is a study doing just that? That's the proof. Are you all retarded?
it's a fact, we know what causes the climate to shift, it's clearly man made.
Pray to jesus.
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Science is great. I'm a big fan of science. However, scientists are wrong about stuff all the fucking time. Then when you factor in that this particular issue is very political, forgive me if I have my doubts. There is a lot going on in the world right now and if there is one thing that I've learned it's that nothing is what it seems.
WTF? every climatology organization in the WORLD (meaning countries that hate us) agree that the earth is changing and man is to blame. Not one worldwide respected organization agrees with you.
Science is wrong sumtime so I tink may be rong bout dis becus I dunt lik.
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I don't think this is even believed by many/most Christians anymore.
Satan is by far more intelligent, powerful, and cunning than any human. He is an angel, and comparing an angel to a human is like comparing air force 1 to a paper airplane. The fact that he has been able to create a false science through which he has decieved the world is of no suuprise. In fact, Jesus told us it would happen. But for those who earnestly pray to God for wisdom and seek the truth, the truth is out there plain to see. Just whether or not we choose to see it.
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You're one of these little cocksuckers who takes personal shots at the family. Like Obama, I would so sincerely love to kick the holy hell out of you on video and post it. Kill yourself lib.
For somebody that claims to know more about the world's climate than most of the world's leading scientist. I find it funny that you have no logical retort for juicing up you're wife and being her drug pusher. I find satisfaction in seeing you squeal.
By the way-you're bloated guido looking ass ain't whooping' nobody.
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STRAWMAN
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man)
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Satan is by far more intelligent, powerful, and cunning than any human. He is an angel, and comparing an angel to a human is like comparing air force 1 to a paper airplane. The fact that he has been able to create a false science through which he has decieved the world is of no suuprise. In fact, Jesus told us it would happen. But for those who earnestly pray to God for wisdom and seek the truth, the truth is out there plain to see. Just whether or not we choose to see it.
How do you know the devil didn't write the bible? and that's all a lie?
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If I get a new job I have sought this month, I will buy bigger car to contribute more to the global warming 8)
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Earth created us, we are part the normal evolutionary path of this planets and currently part of it's natural ecosystem. So isn't it natural, normal and destined that as Earth increased the human organism, they in their turn increase temperatures.
It's clearly part of this planets intended evolution.
Suppose something important and good will come out of it. That we do not yet can foresee or understand.
How shrewed should we really be. I think change is vital.
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It's snowing in Chicago and Lexington :-X
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It's snowing in Chicago and Lexington :-X
You are literally that stupid.
So if it's hot as hell in Australia more so then the cold in Chicago, the net result is?
You can do it.
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You are literally that stupid.
So if it's hot as hell in Australia more so then the cold in Chicago, the net result is?
You can do it.
It's the middle of April..lol
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man)
Haha...that's the first thing I thought when I read that as well.
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Satan is by far more intelligent, powerful, and cunning than any human. He is an angel, and comparing an angel to a human is like comparing air force 1 to a paper airplane. The fact that he has been able to create a false science through which he has decieved the world is of no suuprise. In fact, Jesus told us it would happen. But for those who earnestly pray to God for wisdom and seek the truth, the truth is out there plain to see. Just whether or not we choose to see it.
Or they just got it wrong.
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It's snowing in Chicago and Lexington :-X
It's the middle of April..lol
Here's the thing about climate change drug pushing retard. As the polar ice caps melt(from human action), temperature's in North America will start to decline. That's why it isn't global warming it's called climate change.
If you did as much homework on this subject as you do for your wife's anabolic steroid cycle you might not come off as such a dumb fuck.
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It's the middle of April..lol
What does that matter? march was the hottest month ever recorded you incredible moron.
Being able to look out your window doesn't make you an expert.
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Arctic methane release seems the be the ultimate killer in the end. Once the methane farting season starts it's Venus season.
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What does that matter? march was the hottest month ever recorded you incredible moron.
Being able to look out your window doesn't make you an expert.
I'm hearing record snow in the mid west today. Haha @ Polar ice caps melting lol
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I'm hearing record snow in the mid west today. Haha @ Polar ice caps melting lol
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
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How do you know the devil didn't write the bible? and that's all a lie?
the forces of good and evil are easily identified
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:D
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soon wannabe coach will drown and we won't have to suffer his ignorance.
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I'm hearing record snow in the mid west today. Haha @ Polar ice caps melting lol
Yeah, that's what happens when the ice caps melt fool.
How's your wives cycle going? She was looking jack'd the last time I saw her.
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Yeah, that's what happens when the ice caps melt fool.
How's your wives cycle going? She was looking jack'd the last time I saw her.
Global warming is almost more of a gimmick than the fitness industry...lol
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http://www.mcgill.ca/channels/news/global-warming-just-giant-natural-fluctuation-235236
They say that they are 99% certain it is man made, the ruled it out using"stats" and "facts".
Al gore is 99% certain he is rich.
The climate is fucked up regardless............ :'(
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Global warming is almost more of a gimmick than the fitness industry...lol
It's more real than your wife's muscles.
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Libtards went from "global warming" to "climate change" because it gives them four times as many chances (i.e., seasonal changes) to whine. Babs Streisand wants you to suffer for her sake. You give up your AC. You give up your car. You give up your money, your way of life, your standard of living so she and others like her can live in comfort. Sacrifice your (what a libtard term) carbon footprint for her sake.
They should just go live in a fifth world country. It's like how they view the poor in America. Poverty in the USA is more often than not luxury in Africa or some former Soviet block countries. That doesn't make it any better, but it does speak the truth about there being varying levels of poverty.
When it comes to poverty, we need to take care of our own first. But first, they need to take care of themselves (i.e. the only multiplying they should be doing is in math class). As for Global Climate Change? John said it best and often.
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It's more real than your wife's muscles.
Is this the best you can do, lib? No wonder why 99.9% of your policies fail.
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Is this the best you can do, lib? No wonder why 99.9% of your policies fail.
So what does you being a drug pusher, with a steroid addicted wife have to do with policies? Explain why climate change is wrong but you turning your wife into a drug addicted man is ok?
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So scientists can predict what the world is going to be like 10, 20, 30 years from now but consistently fuck up the weather forecast a week away?
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So what does you being a drug pusher, with a steroid addicted wife have to do with policies?
Start another thread on it. This one here is about politics. Before anyone says it's a global warming thread, "global warming" is purely political.
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Start another thread on it. This one here is about politics. Before anyone says it's a global warming thread, "global warming" is purely political.
Coach > Scientists (PhD's).
Next thing Coach is going to say that modern medicine sucks because scientists are stupid and do not know anything!! :D :D
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Start another thread on it.....
Nah, I already saw the thread where somebody was interested in "your" drug use. I'm not interested in that.
I'm more interested however in: how you keep those republican morals and good ol' christian ethics separate from your drug pushing, drug using, and steroid pimpn'. Please explain.
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One thing I do find troubling is that if you are not convinced by the global warming brigade that you are suddenly labelled a 'denier'. This used to be a word for people that wouldn't accept the holocaust but is now being used to smear sceptics as much as possible. The global warming bandwagon rolls on attempting to discredit and crush anything in its way.
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One thing I do find troubling is that if you are not convinced by the global warming brigade that you are suddenly labelled a 'denier'. This used to be a word for people that wouldn't accept the holocaust but is now being used to smear sceptics as much as possible. The global warming bandwagon rolls on attempting to discredit and crush anything in its way.
Dude the data is overwhelming, everyone who looks at it (experts) come to the same conclusion. We are dumping to much greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.
What other explanation fits? we have ruled out every other major factor in climate control, sun spots, emissions, currents etc. A paper was just released stating they are 99% sure it's human induced. Typical science, leaving that 1%, liars. How come they don't know everything?
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So scientists can predict what the world is going to be like 10, 20, 30 years from now but consistently fuck up the weather forecast a week away?
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Scientists are the new high priests.
Science is great as it helps us to understand things but the biased output from the scientific community is not.
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Scientists are the new high priests.
Science is great as it helps us to understand things but the biased output from the scientific community is not.
Fucking retards.
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Former NASA Scientist: Global Warming is Nonsense
by Nick Hallett 26 Apr 2014, 6:00 AM PDT
A former NASA scientist has described global warming as "nonsense", dismissing the theory of man-made climate change as "an unsubstantiated hypothesis" and saying that it is "absolutely stupid" to blame the recent UK floods on human activity.
Professor Les Woodcock, who has had a long and distinguished academic career, also said there is "no reproducible evidence" that carbon dioxide levels have increased over the past century, and blamed the green movement for inflicting economic damage on ordinary people.
Read more: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/04/26/Former-NASA-Scientist-Global-Warming-is-Nonsense
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do you really think that all the pollutants that are emitted 24 hours a day all around the globe have zero effect on the environment and the atmosphere?
A straw man, also known in the UK as an Aunt Sally,[1][2] is a common type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on the misrepresentation of the original topic of argument. To be successful, a straw man argument requires that the audience be ignorant or uninformed of the original argument
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Former NASA Scientist: Global Warming is Nonsense
by Nick Hallett 26 Apr 2014, 6:00 AM PDT
A former NASA scientist has described global warming as "nonsense", dismissing the theory of man-made climate change as "an unsubstantiated hypothesis" and saying that it is "absolutely stupid" to blame the recent UK floods on human activity.
Professor Les Woodcock, who has had a long and distinguished academic career, also said there is "no reproducible evidence" that carbon dioxide levels have increased over the past century, and blamed the green movement for inflicting economic damage on ordinary people.
Read more: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/04/26/Former-NASA-Scientist-Global-Warming-is-Nonsense
What the fuck is this dude talking about? reproducible evidence? lol the records of Carbon dioxide which are meticulously measured in every country, that type of data? that type of evidence isn't enough?
Also, what the in the sweet fuck is he getting on with, climate change is a fact, a hypothesis is that humans are doing it, so far the data fits that hypothesis better. We can make predictions using it.
I wonder if he is a climatologist
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This argument always fascinates me. As is usually the case, ignorance on the subject is widespread despite everybody having an opinion.
Lets look at some simple facts that are neither for or against climate change but simply state the obvious:
1. The Earth's atmosphere is what keeps the temperature on Earth moderately constant. When the Sun's radiation hits the surface of our planet it is reflected back; the atmosphere traps some of this reflected radiation and keeps heat within the Earth's environment. Similarly, the radiation of the Sun does not hit us at full strength because the atmosphere acts as a protective buffer. The result is that we get a temperature on Earth that is fairly constant with no extremes at either end of the scale.
If we contrast this with the moon (roughly equal distance to the Sun) which has NO atmosphere, the temperature is high during daylight because the full strength of the Sun's radiation hits it's surface but plunges to extreme lows at night because no solar radiation is trapped. No life survives there particularly because of the freezing conditions.
2. There are gaseous elements and compounds in the Earth's atmosphere that trap reflected heat. These gases (often referred to as Greenhouse gases) essentially act as a blanket of insulation and prevent the Earth's surface temperature plunging to extreme lows at night.
3. Atmospheric CO2 is one of the gases that insulates the Earth. Other insulatory gases in our atmosphere include ozone, nitrous oxide and methane.
Now even without going into the empirical evidence that shows that the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere have increased significantly and that the Earth's surface temperature is increasing here are three questions that, based on the above facts, you need to ask yourself:
1. What does CO2 in our atmosphere do?
2. Are we currently increasing the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere (and have we been increasing them over the last 150 or so years)?
3. If the answer to question 2 is yes, what does that mean?
Remember, don't simply believe and repeat other peoples views. Gather the facts for yourself and come to your own non-biased logical conclusion.
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What the fuck is this dude talking about? reproducible evidence? lol the records of Carbon dioxide which are meticulously measured in every country, that type of data? that type of evidence isn't enough?
Also, what the in the sweet fuck is he getting on with, climate change is a fact, a hypothesis is that humans are doing it, so far the data fits that hypothesis better. We can make predictions using it.
I wonder if he is a climatologist
With respect my friend I think there is a very long way to go to convince people that global warming or its newer incarnation climate change is real, or particularly, being directly affected by humans. It is being sponsored by the same bought and paid for politicians and feels disingenuous at best. I appreciate fossil fuels are finite and we need to be looking at alternatives but attempting to pull the wool over people's eyes is not the answer.
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With respect my friend I think there is a very long way to go to convince people that global warming or its newer incarnation climate change is real, or particularly, being directly affected by humans. It is being sponsored by the same bought and paid for politicians and feels disingenuous at best. I appreciate fossil fuels are finite and we need to be looking at alternatives but attempting to pull the wool over people's eyes is not the answer.
I totally disagree, you seem to think this climate change is us centric, is every government in on it? even warring factions? every single reputable climate organization in the WORLD agree, it's man made.
You believe in a world wide conspiracy, meticulously orchestrated. You also believe that the fossil fuel energy is being out lied by the alternative fuel crowd (absurd beyond belief). The reality and the only one that makes any fucking sense, is it's real and big oil is attempting to quell dissent from fossil fuels.
Global warming is a fact, it's not up for dispute. Just like the number 5 coming after 4 is not in dispute. We can see the temps for 100's of years, and thousands more (ice cores) etc and the globe is heating up. Now why that is occurring was the question. We have the answer, we are raping the earth.
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I wonder how people believe that changing the constitution of the atmosphere wont have an environmental impact.
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I totally disagree, you seem to think this climate change is us centric, is every government in on it? even warring factions? every single reputable climate organization in the WORLD agree, it's man made.
You believe in a world wide conspiracy, meticulously orchestrated. You also believe that the fossil fuel energy is being out lied by the alternative fuel crowd (absurd beyond belief). The reality and the only one that makes any fucking sense, is it's real and big oil is attempting to quell dissent from fossil fuels.
Global warming is a fact, it's not up for dispute. Just like the number 5 coming after 4 is not in dispute. We can see the temps for 100's of years, and thousands more (ice cores) etc and the globe is heating up. Now why that is occurring was the question. We have the answer, we are raping the earth.
Yes good points. The fact is that there is concrete evidence showing that the levels of atmospheric CO2 have increased dramatically (by around 45%) in the last 150-200 years, which coincides with the beginning of the industrial revolution and the mass burning of fossil fuels. The aggressive and sudden nature of this increase suggests that it is something more than a "natural trend".
If climate change is not contributed to by humans how else can this sudden CO2 increase be explained? Skeptics have yet to put forward an alternative hypothesis.
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Yes good points. The fact is that there is concrete evidence showing that the levels of atmospheric CO2 have increased dramatically (by around 45%) in the last 150-200 years, which coincides with the beginning of the industrial revolution and the mass burning of fossil fuels. The aggressive and sudden nature of this increase suggests that it is something more than a "natural trend".
If climate change is not contributed to by humans how else can this sudden CO2 increase be explained? Skeptics have yet to put forward an alternative hypothesis.
They have but they all fail in each model. Sun spots, solar flares, solar output, ocean currents, tilt, "natural cycles", tectonics, pollution (seems to be a driver of extreme weather) etc. have all been proposed. None work, we know the sun's output, we have satellites etc.
We know our atmospheric composition, the models used by computers are deadly accurate, they replicate climate very accurately. Unless there are some major unknown variables it's CO2 emissions, deforestation.
I agree with you.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/greenpeace-cofounder-patrick-moore-tells-us-senate-there-is-no-proof-humans-cause-climate-change-9159627.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/greenpeace-cofounder-patrick-moore-tells-us-senate-there-is-no-proof-humans-cause-climate-change-9159627.html)