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Re: Dow crash coming to your 401k..........
« Reply #125 on: December 19, 2007, 04:57:49 PM »
guys, pay no attention to the above asshole..... as i will.

Fuck you Dick face....Im in for a 100 block short. Check it, its breakin down further and aint gonna stop....
Ok... Play the bitch long, stupid. (Epic waffler ::)) Market expert  ::)
Please, go long HAFC... Neuro.

Talk out your ass, Boy.

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Re: Dow crash coming to your 401k..........
« Reply #126 on: December 20, 2007, 06:30:18 AM »
guys, be careful not to get excited if they try to rally this dead market. it will be on LOW volume, which makes it easy for the floor guys to manipulate. i have not changed my long term outlook, which is still DOWN.

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« Reply #127 on: December 20, 2007, 02:18:33 PM »
It correcting thru time stupid.

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« Reply #128 on: December 21, 2007, 06:22:56 AM »
guys....here comes the Christmas/bonus rally !  

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« Reply #129 on: December 21, 2007, 12:19:05 PM »
guys....here comes the Christmas/bonus rally !  ;D


Heres one of the best pros in the Biz.... this shits as time sensative as it git'z...
If you want some expart maket info hit up Larrys site..............
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The market has managed to struggle its way to the traditionally bullish holiday season without a major collapse. However, it certainly hasn't had much strong bullish action. $SPX broke down below the 1465-1470 support level early this week and has not been able to climb back about there since. So that now represents resistance. There is minor support at this week's lows (1435), but the real support is at the 1410 level -- near the closing lows of both the August and November declines. As we have stated before, form a broader perspective, $SPX seems to be in a wide and volatile trading range between roughly 1410 and 1560.

Equity-only put-call ratios are clinging to recent buy signals. There were buy signals issued about two weeks ago, but now the ratios have started moving higher again. The standard ratio (Figure 2) is right on the verge of moving to new highs, which would negate that buy signal. The weighted ratio feinted higher, but then yesterday confirmed the buy signal by moving to a new December low (Figure 3). So, these important ratios are still on buy signals, but not decisively so.

Market breadth reached very oversold levels early this week one of the factors in Tuesday afternoon's strong reflex rally. If in the next couple of days advancing issues lead declining issues by a decent margin, breadth buy signals will be generated.

Volatility indices ($VIX and $VXO) have drifted lower this week, as option sellers have gotten aggressive. In one sense, $VIX is still in a downtrend that began in November, and that is bullish. However, the uptrend in $VIX that began in June (or October) is still intact as well, and that is bearish. So, depending on one's time horizon, he could interpret the trend of $VIX accordingly. For now, we'd have to rate $VIX as neutral (although not the $VIX futures -- more about that letter).

From these indicators, we are assuming a cautious attitude about the market unless $SPX can close above 1470. If that happens, the $SPX chart will have a more positive slant to it, and it is likely that the breadth oscillators will have generated buy signals, joining the equity- only put-call ratios. However, lacking that close above 1470, we are still cautious.
 
 
 
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Re: Dow crash coming to your 401k..........
« Reply #130 on: December 21, 2007, 03:34:58 PM »
guys....here comes the Christmas/bonus rally !  ;D


Dont let "crab" bother you.     He seems like an adrenilin junkie on a high ride.   They always crash and dissapear like a dog licking its wounds for a time.

Bottomline is the cost of living is high with gas prices, utilities and etc.   The middle class hasnt been able to keep up as far as income goes.     They were thrown a bone full of arsneic when they were allowed to overvalue their homes and cashed out equity on boats and suv's...........now its time to pay and their credit is getting worse by the day.

Its like a pyramid scheme where you keep wanting those below you to make you rich at the top......and theres nothing more to give...theyll find out soon.


In order to get people outta this.... the market correction will have to be huge!!!!

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« Reply #131 on: December 21, 2007, 03:43:11 PM »

Dont let "crab" bother you.     He seems like an adrenilin junkie on a high ride.   They always crash and dissapear like a dog licking its wounds for a time.

Bottomline is the cost of living is high with gas prices, utilities and etc.   The middle class hasnt been able to keep up as far as income goes.     They were thrown a bone full of arsneic when they were allowed to overvalue their homes and cashed out equity on boats and suv's...........now its time to pay and their credit is getting worse by the day.

Its like a pyramid scheme where you keep wanting those below you to make you rich at the top......and theres nothing more to give...theyll find out soon.


In order to get people outta this.... the market correction will have to be huge!!!!

Fuck you Dumbass... Yeah right the markets going away tomorrow...  ;D

Fine. My homes paid for and even if I'd blow out my PDTA I'd still go on nicely ....
Happy Hollidays Poor Boy....

Im sure your employers 401K is good for a guy like you. Youd never do better anyway... ;D

I put it right in front of you ,,,, The best in the game and you cant even comprehend shit. Bitch.

It all goes up and down and is too integrated to stop. Everyones in and they dont know it. Thats the dumb ones like you.

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Re: Dow crash coming to your 401k..........
« Reply #132 on: December 21, 2007, 03:51:23 PM »
http://www.lowrisk.com/crash/1929crash3.htm

Markets can crash... I dont personally see this happening though.

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« Reply #133 on: December 21, 2007, 03:58:18 PM »
Fuck you Dumbass... Yeah right the markets going away tomorrow...  ;D

Fine. My homes paid for and even if I'd blow out my PDTA I'd still go on nicely ....
Happy Hollidays Poor Boy....

Im sure your employers 401K is good for a guy like you. Youd never do better anyway... ;D

I put it right in front of you ,,,, The best in the game and you cant even comprehend shit. Bitch.

It all goes up and down and is too integrated to stop. Everyones in and they dont know it. Thats the dumb ones like you.



You should remove my ballsack hairs from your teeth before you speak. Then maybe youll make sense.           Try again cockgobbler.. ::)

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« Reply #134 on: December 22, 2007, 08:57:21 PM »

Amen war-horse !   ;D


Shit I thought i was on the Y board for a minute!! ;D

This "crab" is a tool.  Thinking he has someone pegged on a internet board.......what an idiot.

Im a CEO with paid for crap also, and dont need a 401k for sure.     However everyone here has a 20" arm and bences 500x12!!! 8)

Carryon with whatever you see out there NT.!!

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« Reply #135 on: December 24, 2007, 08:57:15 AM »
everyone keep in mind that floor traders at the NYSE make LARGE amounts of money with holiday bonuses. historically, 83% of the time traders move the market HIGHER during the "christmas rally". until proven otherwise, you should expect this to happen.

a damaged market can still trade higher, but the long term trend is DOWN.


 

enjoy the christmas rally guys !

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« Reply #136 on: December 27, 2007, 05:15:06 PM »
Nero, again,,,, You just take shit, my boy.
You give no direction.
SHould they go flat? Buy Puts,,, or some elaborate options strategy?
A bear fund?

You are simply talking shit, you know NOTHING.
I'd bet you've NEVER entered a stock trade, Never!
Same for your phony friend horse cock gobbler.

Your kind lets others run your money, you prolly should be scared.

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Re: Dow crash coming to your 401k..........
« Reply #137 on: December 28, 2007, 11:02:26 AM »
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard has covered world politics and economics for a quarter of a century. He is essential reading for anyone interested in how shifts in the world economy are changing the balance of political power.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?menuId=242&menuItemId=10299&view=COLUMNIST&grid=F7&targetRule=14

Crisis may make 1929 look a 'walk in the park'
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Credit crisis
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Financial outlook 2008
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Alot of great articles to read.  :)


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Re: Dow crash coming to your 401k..........
« Reply #138 on: December 28, 2007, 11:47:05 AM »
THE OPTION STRATEGIST
WEEKLY UPDATER 12/28/07
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The 6-day rally that began in mid-December has apparently run its course, as the broad market took a tumble today. Nevertheless, there are some positive aspects in the technical indicators.

The chart of $SPX is the picture of a trading range. The wide trading range is between the extreme low closes at 1410 and the highs at 1560. But within that range, there are some trend lines that have developed (see Figure 1). These two trendlines define a range that is dampening down. That is, the oscillations in $SPX are getting smaller and smaller as it first bounces off the declining trend line and then the rising one. Technicians call this a triangle, although that is irrelevant. What is important is that a break of either trendline will likely be a catalyst for $SPX to make a substantial move from that point. So, roughly, a move above 1500 would be bullish and a move below 1450 would be bearish. We shouldn't have to wait long for that breakout to occur.

The equity-only put-call ratios are bullish. From Figures 2 & 3 you can see that buy signals are in place, although it wouldn't take a huge move to negate the standard signal.

Market breadth has generated a new sell signal, which is the only confirmed sell signal that we have right now.

Finally, the volatility indices ($VIX and $VXO) have been declining, thus imparting a bullish interpretation for the stock market. However, the decline reached the lower, gently upward-sloping trend line (see Figure 4) and that might be the end of the decline in $VIX.

In summary, the technical indicators are somewhat bullish right now (the only true sell signal being breadths). However, there are some nagging, negative factors out there, and we'd want to see some resolution of those before going outright long.

 
 
 
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Re: Dow crash coming to your 401k..........
« Reply #139 on: December 28, 2007, 11:54:12 AM »
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/JubaksJournal/DontCountOnANormalRecession.aspx

You'z guys Bear scenario is not without merit.... Has lots to it in fact. But give your survival plan.
I'm eager to hear it (if you have any)

Shit happens REAL FAST these days, but I think any blowout will be rebought within months at the longest.

But Something monumental and disastrous over in the primitive lands w/ oil could change that in a instant.


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Re: Dow crash coming to your 401k..........
« Reply #140 on: December 31, 2007, 09:07:37 AM »
what is up today interchangable tax loss selling and exits from public investments?

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« Reply #141 on: January 02, 2008, 09:43:14 AM »

don't say you weren't warned.

So.... Just where did you put you $19.99 when you went flat?  ;D

Invest it in Gay porn?

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« Reply #142 on: January 02, 2008, 03:06:50 PM »
Guys, this ride down will feel like a slow bleedout. People will be hurt.

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« Reply #143 on: January 02, 2008, 03:37:12 PM »
Thats what stops are for kid.

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« Reply #144 on: January 02, 2008, 04:31:49 PM »
Dec. 31 (Bloomberg) -- Defaults on privately insured U.S. mortgages rose 35 percent in November to a record, an industry report today showed, adding to evidence the U.S. housing slump is deepening.

The number of insured borrowers falling more than 60 days late on payments jumped to 61,033 last month from 45,325 in November 2006, according to data from members of the Washington- based Mortgage Insurance Companies of America. The missed payments, often a prelude to foreclosure, represented a 2.9 percent increase from October.


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« Reply #145 on: January 02, 2008, 04:32:51 PM »
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -The U.S. factory sector contracted in December for the first time in nearly a year as new orders collapsed, the Institute for Supply Management reported Wednesday.
The ISM index fell to 47.7% from 50.8% in November. It's the lowest reading since April 2003 and the first sub-50 reading since January 2007.
"This will fan recession concerns," wrote Stephen Gallagher, U.S. economist for Societe Generale.
The new-orders index fell to 45.7% from 52.6%, the lowest since October 2001, as the nation was pulling out of the last recession. Just 15% of firms reported rising orders; the percentage has been lower only once in the past 25 years


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Re: Dow crash coming to your 401k..........
« Reply #146 on: January 02, 2008, 09:27:41 PM »
LOL.  Its gonna be fun.   What gets me is the narrowminded guys like crabby that have blinders on for their own little window.
They dont see all the parameters of these actions.....

Were looking at the overall markets and how the economy is affected, and all he's doing is standing on the stock floor with his hand in his boyfriends ass.




Good stuff Neuro !!

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« Reply #147 on: January 03, 2008, 12:38:58 AM »
umm, ...just wondering, ...but shouldn't this thread be on the business board?  ???
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« Reply #148 on: January 03, 2008, 04:40:01 AM »
LOL.  Its gonna be fun.   What gets me is the narrowminded guys like crabby that have blinders on for their own little window.
They dont see all the parameters of these actions.....

Were looking at the overall markets and how the economy is affected, and all he's doing is standing on the stock floor with his hand in his boyfriends ass.




Good stuff Neuro !!

I see exactly whats'up... Clearer than you... Ive watched this going down from out of the USA perspective for a longtime.. YOur possible Bear event is real... It wont be the kind of event like the depression chart link I put up.
Dow could have to stabilise at 12 area for a year is my worst case scenario.
Its got way too much support there not to......

I'm not inany GOvt baited accounts... They dont rule my future. Frankly leaving the USA is in my list of options.

Your right about 99% of idiots w/ no clue to their market exposure though.
But stops can protect you if your a player... If your a player you dont give a crap about market direction anyway.
My pro friend likes bear markets better. 3X speed of movement.
But it just all keeps gettin rebought in time.. Too much money out there not to. Needs go somewhere.

Jag - NO! NitwitToxin is just a agitator. Picture Squadfather w/ a highschool education...  ;D

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« Reply #149 on: January 03, 2008, 05:57:18 AM »
guys, for your reading pleasure.

Last update: 8:39 a.m. EST Jan. 3, 2008
WASHINGTON  -- Private-sector companies in the U.S. added 40,000 jobs in December, according to the ADP employment report released Thursday.
It's the weakest growth since 27,000 jobs were added in August.
Along with other evidence that the economy is slowing, the ADP report is likely to push the Federal Reserve to cut interest rates again later this month to boost growth.
Services industries added 71,000 jobs in December, while goods-producing industries cut 31,000 jobs, including 16,000 in manufacturing, ADP reported.

Factory employment has fallen for 18 straight months. On Wednesday, the Institute for Supply Management said its manufacturing diffusion index fell to 47.7% in December, the lowest in nearly five years.
 
The two sectors hit hardest by the mortgage crisis continued to shed jobs in December, ADP said, citing unpublished data. Construction firms cut 17,000 jobs, the 13th consecutive monthly decline. Financial services firms reduced employment by 5,000, the third decline in the past five months.
 
In a separate report, the Labor Department said continuing claims for unemployment benefits rose to the highest level in more than two years, a further sign of a weakening labor market.