Sust only

[Migs]

Thinking about doing sust only cycle.  500mgs per week, in two shots.  Will do it for 12 weeks.  Should anything else be added.  Looking to add some stremght and muscle but not over do it.  Just want quality and be able to last through workouts etc longer.

[jerseymuscles113]

your blood levels won't be to stable doing It in 2 shots per week...read the profile on sust and research esters

[Migs]

well i can up the shot frequency to 3 or 4 times.  I guess i would have to preload the syringes since all i have is the 250 amps.  How should i best store this then?  Is the 500mg a good amount though?

[4thAD]

500mg is good bro. Shoot .5ml eod and you will be good. It will actually be an average of 437.5mg ew, but will be fine. How many cycles have you run in the past?

[dustin]

I agree, up the frequency. Even if you run half an amp EOD it'll feel like a lot more than if you pinned infrequently. Sust on paper is supposed to peak differently than in real life. Two shots a week feels almost like nothing after it kicks in!

[jerseymuscles113]

.5 a ml eoD like 4thaD said....but 4th why are you saying It would be less because of the amount thats lost in the syringe? cuz i normally putt a Lil air in the syringe not enough that i inject any but enough so no oil is left behind. you think this Is a bad idea?

[powerpack]

Thinking about doing sust only cycle.  500mgs per week, in two shots.  Will do it for 12 weeks.  Should anything else be added.  Looking to add some stremght and muscle but not over do it.  Just want quality and be able to last through workouts etc longer.

Years ago when I did Test only cycles I would inflate and get strong and then deflate when I came off.
For something more lasting I am not a big believer in Test only cycles

[4thAD]

.5 a ml eoD like 4thaD said....but 4th why are you saying It would be less because of the amount thats lost in the syringe? cuz i normally putt a Lil air in the syringe not enough that i inject any but enough so no oil is left behind. you think this Is a bad idea?

When pinning eod you get an average of 3 shots one week and then 4 shots the next. So the average mg per week would be 437.5. I also add a little air to seal off the injection area and push everything out of the syringe. I personally think its a great ides.

[Migs]

500mg is good bro. Shoot .5ml eod and you will be good. It will actually be an average of 437.5mg ew, but will be fine. How many cycles have you run in the past?

sounds good.  it's my first cycle.  i have clean and oral winny too, but noot sure if should run it too

[gdub1979]

I've done test-only cycles about 4 or 5 times.  I did 500mg of Sust a week, and only pinned once a week.  I had VERY noticable gains, where people started wondering if I'm on steroids (and that's always a good thang, lol).  Maybe I would've gotten better results if I pinned eod, but all I'm saying is that you can get very good results only pinning once a week.  I'm talking from experience here.

[4thAD]

I've done test-only cycles about 4 or 5 times.  I did 500mg of Sust a week, and only pinned once a week.  I had VERY noticable gains, where people started wondering if I'm on steroids (and that's always a good thang, lol).  Maybe I would've gotten better results if I pinned eod, but all I'm saying is that you can get very good results only pinning once a week.  I'm talking from experience here.

Well just because it works which it will, because of the longer esters does not mean its the right way to run sust. Sust idealy should be pinned eod.

[claymore]

Well just because it works which it will, because of the longer esters does not mean its the right way to run sust. Sust idealy should be pinned eod.

Will it work yes, but the way 4thAD has posted will work a lot better. Think of this way, if you get you car tuned up it'll drive that much better, but without the tune up it still drives.

[gdub1979]

Good point, Claymore.  I stand corrected.

[local hero]

to be honest i dont think thats great advice, there isnt realy the need to shoot sus eod, altho it will work better, in real terms it wont make that much of a difference...once its in your system its in your system weather you take 2 shots a week or 3....

[rccs]

I like sust but testoviron mantains blood levels more stable and gives you better results ( but it takes longer to kick in, but you can solve that by adding some dbol)

[Kentucky_cowboy]

I think twice a week at 1 cc is better than 4 times a week at 0.5 cc.  You lose about 0.1 cc in th needle and syringe every time you inject, so when doing 0.5 cc shots that's 20% of your gear right therer going to waste.  500 mg in twice a week shots = 450 mg after wasted gear and in four times a week shots = 400 mg after wasted gear.

Also I think frequency is a bit overrated I mean if you look at the half life of the test propionate its 4.5 days, so taking a shot every 3-4 days should be fine, especially considering that dbol's half life is 5 hours and people say to take one pill about every 5 hours too

Also the propionate in a cc of sust is only 30 mg, so is  it really worth pinning twice as frequently just to keep 30 mg of test more stable?

[4thAD]

I think twice a week at 1 cc is better than 4 times a week at 0.5 cc.  You lose about 0.1 cc in th needle and syringe every time you inject, so when doing 0.5 cc shots that's 20% of your gear right therer going to waste.  500 mg in twice a week shots = 450 mg after wasted gear and in four times a week shots = 400 mg after wasted gear.

Also I think frequency is a bit overrated I mean if you look at the half life of the test propionate its 4.5 days, so taking a shot every 3-4 days should be fine, especially considering that dbol's half life is 5 hours and people say to take one pill about every 5 hours too

Also the propionate in a cc of sust is only 30 mg, so is  it really worth pinning twice as frequently just to keep 30 mg of test more stable?

No offense, but this is a rookie statement. Those of us who have been doing this for a while don't lose any gear when we pin. Also what something looks like on paper and how it works in real life are two different things. Have you ever even used sust or had blood monitored while on? Trust me sust should be pinned eod for best results.

[SamoanIrishman]

I pinned 250 Mon and Thurs and got really good results, gained 33lbs, kept 14lbs of it off a 16wk cycle, it was my first cycle though. I added dbol for the first 4 weeks and my diet was clean. People noticed the results about week 4..gotta love dbol! Though I lost 4lbs the following week after stopping dbol (water weight).

Crazy workouts, slept like a baby, ate like a maching and f**ked like a pornstar...it was a great first cycle. I can see how this can get addicting.

No sides at all.

[El Diablo Blanco]

No offense, but this is a rookie statement. Those of us who have been doing this for a while don't lose any gear when we pin. Also what something looks like on paper and how it works in real life are two different things. Have you ever even used sust or had blood monitored while on? Trust me sust should be pinned eod for best results.

agree.  People need to forget about days of the week when shooting test and think about days as being numbers.  Monday-thrusday is not an even split as people want to think it is.

A cycle needs to be looked at by total number of days divided by the doses you want.  If the dude is looking for less injections per week then skip sust and get enth.

[4thAD]

agree.  People need to forget about days of the week when shooting test and think about days as being numbers.  Monday-thrusday is not an even split as people want to think it is.

A cycle needs to be looked at by total number of days divided by the doses you want.  If the dude is looking for less injections per week then skip sust and get enth.

agreed completely! If your afraid of multiple injects use something else.

[Kentucky_cowboy]

No offense, but this is a rookie statement. Those of us who have been doing this for a while don't lose any gear when we pin. Also what something looks like on paper and how it works in real life are two different things. Have you ever even used sust or had blood monitored while on? Trust me sust should be pinned eod for best results.

No offence taken 4thAD yes Ive taken sustanon twice a week and got results and never tried EOD to compare it to but i just find it hard to understand that you will get noticeably better results just by taking the 30 mg of propionate every other day instead of every 3.5 days since forr starters come on it is only 30 mg and then with twice a week you are still taking a shot before even 1/2 life for propionate but to each their own i guess

[4thAD]

No offense, but this is a rookie statement. Those of us who have been doing this for a while don't lose any gear when we pin. Also what something looks like on paper and how it works in real life are two different things. Have you ever even used sust or had blood monitored while on? Trust me sust should be pinned eod for best results.

refer to above statement. You can argue half lives all day long, it changes nothing.

[dustin]

No offence taken 4thAD yes Ive taken sustanon twice a week and got results and never tried EOD to compare it to but i just find it hard to understand that you will get noticeably better results just by taking the 30 mg of propionate every other day instead of every 3.5 days since forr starters come on it is only 30 mg and then with twice a week you are still taking a shot before even 1/2 life for propionate but to each their own i guess

Just pin EOD and bump this thread in two weeks. If you were here in real life, I'd give you a vial of sustanon in real life if you still thought otherwise!

Trust us. There's a reason why everyone recommends it EOD. It actually feels like you're taking a couple hundred extra mgs of test if you increase the frequency you inject on sustanon. Take it once a week and it'll feel like absolutely nothing. Twice will feel good. EOD will feel fucking amazing. We have no reason to lie to you.

[tstmaniac]

I think twice a week at 1 cc is better than 4 times a week at 0.5 cc.  You lose about 0.1 cc in th needle and syringe every time you inject, so when doing 0.5 cc shots that's 20% of your gear right therer going to waste.  500 mg in twice a week shots = 450 mg after wasted gear and in four times a week shots = 400 mg after wasted gear.

Also I think frequency is a bit overrated I mean if you look at the half life of the test propionate its 4.5 days, so taking a shot every 3-4 days should be fine, especially considering that dbol's half life is 5 hours and people say to take one pill about every 5 hours too

Also the propionate in a cc of sust is only 30 mg, so is  it really worth pinning twice as frequently just to keep 30 mg of test more stable?

  whattt?

[Migs]

agreed completely! If your afraid of multiple injects use something else.

i have no fear of needles.  Even long ones.  I'm type II so no worries there.