After Yesterday`s "No One" Machine Workout...

[pellius]

he wil gain 

You know I will always be rooting for Vince.

[mazrim]

I want to address a couple of things mentioned by no one. First of all, if hypertrophy is your goal there is absolutely no way you can train all body parts every two days. Definitely not every day. No way and still grow.

What is the reasoning behind this thinking? I somewhat understand everyday but def not willing to say you cant train everything everyday as I have never done it myself but every two days I see no reason to make such a definitive statement as that (especially since recovery studies show otherwise and since I do it myself and have no issue).

[no one]

cause he jumped into training his arms every other day without waiting for his body to adapt to the increased demand for performance and hurt himself.

therefore, its not he that is the crux of the problem, its the system thats a failure.

for a fella who preaches logic his opinion isnt very based on logical thinking.

[Marty Champions]

You know I will always be rooting for Vince.

why all of sudden at 70 will thise life time bodybuilder gayn anything maybe for 60 years he didnt go to failure

[Hulkotron]

why all of sudden at 70 will thise life time bodybuilder gayn anything maybe for 60 years he didnt go to failure

He will begin eating that orange clay from ~ a two-foot depth and this will trigger new things.

[The Ugly]

I am interested in immediate, continuous hypertrophy. Your method doesn't generate what I am after. Sorry, not possible with your protocols. If you were in Sydney I could prove it to you.

Help me out here, Vince. Why would a man your age, who hasn't looked anything anywhere near presentable since color film was invented, care so much about hypertrophy? Shouldn't you be more concerned about diet and cardio at this point? Grim Reaper's already got you programmed into his GPS, and big muscles are still on your bucket list?

[The Ugly]

Says who?  I am 72 and I see no reason why I can't keep my arms growing. I don't need any HRT, drugs or supplements either. Time will tell.

Time DID tell. Decades ago, it screamed it through a megaphone. But you stuck your fingers in your ears and did the six year-old "BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" routine.

[The Ugly]

My biceps-supinator machine is as effective as Uncle Rico's time travel device..

[The Ugly]

Vince, is this the best pose you could do to show off your arm development? Seems like a different angle would make your arm look more muscular. This one mainly makes you upper arm look fat. It is hard to see the muscles.

You think he might have a slightly distorted view of that 1 3/8" pump? We see an old man with a soft, fat arm, but Vince sees Arnold's right peak before a glorious European mountainscape.

VP summed it up best.

Fuck off.

[Primemuscle]

Help me out here, Vince. Why would a man your age, who hasn't looked anything anywhere near presentable since color film was invented, care so much about hypertrophy? Shouldn't you be more concerned about diet and cardio at this point? Grim Reaper's already got you programmed into his GPS, and big muscles are still on your bucket list?

Some folks have a hard time adjusting to the changes age brings. They delude themselves into believing that everything is still possible as long as they work hard enough for it and believe in it. As long as they don't end up injuring themselves, there's probably no harm done accept the eventual disappointment when their muscles don't respond the way they thought they would. That can be a real letdown.

[The Ugly]

Some folks have a hard time adjusting to the changes age brings. They delude themselves into believing that everything is still possible as long as they work hard enough for it and believe in it. As long as they don't end up injuring themselves, there's probably no harm done accept the eventual disappointment when their muscles don't respond the way they thought they would. That can be a real letdown.

You two are in a similar age bracket, Prime. Can you imagine spending these golden years pursuing hypertrophy? The soft, fat arm variety, it would appear, the main benefit of which seems to be shoveling heavy calorie-laden forkloads into a soft, fat, Herbert-like face.

Is this a wise quest?

[Vince B]

You two are in a similar age bracket, Prime. Can you imagine spending these golden years pursuing hypertrophy? Soft, fat arm hypertrophy, it would appear, the main benefit of which seems to be shoveling heavy calorie-laden forkloads into a soft, fat, Herbert-like face.

Is this a wise quest?

This forum is called Getbig, right?

If a man can cause his muscles to grow at 72 that should interest a lot of people. Building large muscles has never been seen as a wise quest.  

[Vince B]

There are many reasons why your arms, and everybody's arm, can't keep growing. In your case, age is a major factor. You no longer produce in sufficient quantities the necessary hormones. You down play this but it's the same reason why women, and prepubescent men, can't get as big muscularly as men naturally.

Even the greatest of bodybuilders have never been able to maintain the muscular mass that they had in their prime let alone keep growing. You may say it's because they don't train as hard or as seriously. Maybe so. But I submit it's because they simply can't maintain that level of intensity as they get older. You are a prime example. You always quit or say you are injured. That's because you are old. You simply can't endure what it takes anymore. The lack of ability often goes hand in hand with the lack of desire.

The fact that almost nobody has built large arms at my age hardly means it can't be done. Yes, it is easy to injure connective tissue and I have adjusted my exercises to avoid those injuries. This is called learning from experience.
I do specific things to trigger hypertrophy. This is what makes a big difference . Motivation can be found and intensity sustained. We will see what happens.

[The Ugly]

If a man can cause his muscles to grow at 72 that should interest a lot of people. 

Of whom do you speak?

[Marty Champions]

The fact that almost nobody has built large arms at my age hardly means it can't be done. Yes, it is easy to injure connective tissue and I have adjusted my exercises to avoid those injuries. This is called learning from experience.
I do specific things to trigger hypertrophy. This is what makes a big difference . Motivation can be found and intensity sustained. We will see what happens.

surely u can put more effort in than u did in your 20's

[Vince B]

Still no before photos from Adonis or no one? You guys are not fair dinkum.

[pellius]

why all of sudden at 70 will thise life time bodybuilder gayn anything maybe for 60 years he didnt go to failure

Never under estimate a man that can rip out your ribs.

[pellius]

You two are in a similar age bracket, Prime. Can you imagine spending these golden years pursuing hypertrophy? The soft, fat arm variety, it would appear, the main benefit of which seems to be shoveling heavy calorie-laden forkloads into a soft, fat, Herbert-like face.

Is this a wise quest?

If one is doing what he loves then whose business is it. If a guy wants to pump iron and strive for bigger muscles or collect rare stamps or golf until they finally bury him who cares?

What do you plan to do during your retirement years?

[pellius]

Of whom do you speak?

I would think virtually everyone on this board and everyone interested in bodybuilding. If a man has figured out a way to big substantial amount of muscle at 72 you imagine what a 50 year old man can do? I would think even the medical community would be interested in this as muscle wasting is one of the biggest problems facing oldsters.

[pellius]

Still no before photos from Adonis or no one? You guys are not fair dinkum.

I remember a guy on the gh 15 board claiming that pharm grade hgh was so superior that he has been seeing daily changes for the last month. Daily changes. I asked him to post a before and after pic a day apart to prove this outrageous claim. When I got no response I said how about a week apart. Surely that would be even more dramatic than a day. Again no response. A month apart?

He never returned to the thread.

Making claims is one thing. Proving those claims are quite another. I find that in bodybuilding in particular proving claims are quite rare. That's because it's so easily quantified and verified, and of course, dismissed. TA, as is his habit when backed into a corner, simply ignores the issue. You will not see before and after pics posted on this thread that proves the vast difference this training method has made on his physique. In fact, I doubt anybody will.

[The Ugly]

I would think virtually everyone on this board and everyone interested in bodybuilding. If a man has figured out a way to big substantial amount of muscle at 72 you imagine what a 50 year old man can do? I would think even the medical community would be interested in this as muscle wasting is one of the biggest problems facing oldsters.

Guess I'll just address all my Basile queries to you from now on.

[pellius]

Guess I'll just address all my Basile queries to you from now on.

I am not a queer.

[The Ugly]

If one is doing what he loves then whose business is it. If a guy wants to pump iron and strive for bigger muscles or collect rare stamps or golf until they finally bury him who cares?

What do you plan to do during your retirement years?

Build a rocketship that adds 1 3/8" of extra soft to my fat arms.

You?

[pellius]

Build a rocketship that adds 1 3/8" of extra soft to my fat arms.

You?

Extract vengeance from all that has offended me in life. I keep a list.

Become an E-pal with TA and learn how to cook.

Increase my internet porn consumption.

Identify who the real gh 15 is.

Keep my scrotum shaved.

[The Ugly]

Extract vengeance from all that has offended me in life. I keep a list.

Become an E-pal with TA and learn how to cook.

Increase my internet porn consumption.

Identify who the real gh 15 is.

Keep my scrotum shaved.

Good list, best of luck. But your abrupt 180 on the previous post was quite unexpected. Two unsolicited defenses, fine, he's a pal, but you then turn and imply a li'l Basile buggery? Puzzling.