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Re: Election 2016 Change is in the wind
« Reply #1150 on: December 06, 2016, 01:28:31 PM »
Election 2016

This Group of Rogue Electors Have a Plan to Stop Trump

The Constitution allows electors to vote their conscience. But don’t get your hopes up yet.

There’s a minor revolution brewing in the electoral college, the arcane 228-year-old institution that officially chooses the president. Over the past week, a small but increasingly vocal group of electors, alarmed by Donald Trump’s disregard for presidential norms, have begun calling on their colleagues to adopt their original Constitutional role as a check on the popular vote, disregarding the will of voters in their respective states and denying the billionaire businessman the 270 electoral votes he needs to assume the presidency.

On Monday night, Texas elector and longtime Republican Christopher Suprun announced in a New York Times op-ed that he would buck the voters of his state—as is his right under the Constitution as an elector—and cast his vote against Trump, possibly for Ohio governor John Kasich. “Alexander Hamilton provided a blueprint for states’ votes,” he wrote. “Federalist 68 argued that an Electoral College should determine if candidates are qualified, not engaged in demagogy, and independent from foreign influence. Mr. Trump shows us again and again that he does not meet these standards.

Tina Nguyen

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/opinion/why-i-will-not-cast-my-electoral-vote-for-donald-trump.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0&referer=http://m.facebook.com

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/electoral-college-rogues-trump-clinton-232195

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed68.asp

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/03/17/if-no-one-else-stops-trump-the-electoral-college-still-can-its-in-the-constitution/?utm_term=.5c7af651510d

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/larry-lessig-electors-trump-232231?cmpid=sf

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/presidential-electors-lawsuit-trump-232255

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Re: Election 2016 Change is in the wind
« Reply #1151 on: December 06, 2016, 01:39:35 PM »
Election 2016

This Group of Rogue Electors Have a Plan to Stop Trump

The Constitution allows electors to vote their conscience. But don’t get your hopes up yet.

There’s a minor revolution brewing in the electoral college, the arcane 228-year-old institution that officially chooses the president. Over the past week, a small but increasingly vocal group of electors, alarmed by Donald Trump’s disregard for presidential norms, have begun calling on their colleagues to adopt their original Constitutional role as a check on the popular vote, disregarding the will of voters in their respective states and denying the billionaire businessman the 270 electoral votes he needs to assume the presidency.

On Monday night, Texas elector and longtime Republican Christopher Suprun announced in a New York Times op-ed that he would buck the voters of his state—as is his right under the Constitution as an elector—and cast his vote against Trump, possibly for Ohio governor John Kasich. “Alexander Hamilton provided a blueprint for states’ votes,” he wrote. “Federalist 68 argued that an Electoral College should determine if candidates are qualified, not engaged in demagogy, and independent from foreign influence. Mr. Trump shows us again and again that he does not meet these standards.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/opinion/why-i-will-not-cast-my-electoral-vote-for-donald-trump.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0&referer=http://m.facebook.com

What stage of grief are we in? Bargaining?

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Re: Election 2016 Change is in the wind
« Reply #1152 on: December 06, 2016, 01:44:34 PM »
Election 2016

This Group of Rogue Electors Have a Plan to Stop Trump

The Constitution allows electors to vote their conscience. But don’t get your hopes up yet.

There’s a minor revolution brewing in the electoral college, the arcane 228-year-old institution that officially chooses the president. Over the past week, a small but increasingly vocal group of electors, alarmed by Donald Trump’s disregard for presidential norms, have begun calling on their colleagues to adopt their original Constitutional role as a check on the popular vote, disregarding the will of voters in their respective states and denying the billionaire businessman the 270 electoral votes he needs to assume the presidency.

On Monday night, Texas elector and longtime Republican Christopher Suprun announced in a New York Times op-ed that he would buck the voters of his state—as is his right under the Constitution as an elector—and cast his vote against Trump, possibly for Ohio governor John Kasich. “Alexander Hamilton provided a blueprint for states’ votes,” he wrote. “Federalist 68 argued that an Electoral College should determine if candidates are qualified, not engaged in demagogy, and independent from foreign influence. Mr. Trump shows us again and again that he does not meet these standards.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/opinion/why-i-will-not-cast-my-electoral-vote-for-donald-trump.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0&referer=http://m.facebook.com

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/electoral-college-rogues-trump-clinton-232195

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed68.asp

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/03/17/if-no-one-else-stops-trump-the-electoral-college-still-can-its-in-the-constitution/?utm_term=.5c7af651510d

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/larry-lessig-electors-trump-232231?cmpid=sf

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/presidential-electors-lawsuit-trump-232255

Which the political parties only complain about when they lose, but curiously enough, not when they win.

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Re: Election 2016 Change is in the wind
« Reply #1153 on: December 06, 2016, 02:03:34 PM »
Which the political parties only complain about when they lose, but curiously enough, not when they win.

These electors are Republican.

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Re: Election 2016 Change is in the wind
« Reply #1154 on: December 06, 2016, 02:05:12 PM »
These electors are Republican.

With #NeverTrump listed under their name on Twitter  ::)

and funny that they believe it should be Kaisch to replace trump.... he and Jeb are yet to bend the knee; their political careers were wrecked beyond repair and they are bitter.
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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #1155 on: December 06, 2016, 02:11:15 PM »

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Re: Election 2016 Change is in the wind
« Reply #1156 on: December 06, 2016, 02:14:21 PM »
With #NeverTrump listed under their name on Twitter  ::)

and funny that they believe it should be Kaisch to replace trump.... he and Jeb are yet to bend the knee; their political careers were wrecked beyond repair and they are bitter.

Is it they? Wasn't just one elector suggesting Kaisch replace Trump? Kaisch and Bush may indeed be bitter, but they aren't who is spearheading this idea.

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Re: Election 2016 Change is in the wind
« Reply #1157 on: December 06, 2016, 02:15:48 PM »
What stage of grief are we in? Bargaining?



Who is we? Not me. I'm just reporting what I've read.

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Re: Election 2016 Change is in the wind
« Reply #1158 on: December 06, 2016, 02:20:14 PM »
These electors are Republican.

The quote in bold seems to have been written by Tina Nguyen from Vanity Fair. Would she have said the same if Hillary won more electoral college votes but not the popular vote? Similarly, the political parties try to place the blame on "the system" when they lose, but somehow when they win, they're fine with "the system".

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #1159 on: December 06, 2016, 02:52:39 PM »
Execute them if they fail to do their duty!

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Re: Election 2016 Change is in the wind
« Reply #1160 on: December 06, 2016, 03:25:27 PM »
The quote in bold seems to have been written by Tina Nguyen from Vanity Fair. Would she have said the same if Hillary won more electoral college votes but not the popular vote? Similarly, the political parties try to place the blame on "the system" when they lose, but somehow when they win, they're fine with "the system".

This is why I listed Tina Nguyen's sources. She's just repeating what has already been said. She's not at the helm. What she thinks is irrelevant.

Donald Trump threaten to sue if he lost to HRC. Obviously, he'd have been a very sore loser.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/20/trump-throws-tantrum-threatens-sue-america-loses-election.html  

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #1161 on: December 06, 2016, 03:28:51 PM »
Execute them if they fail to do their duty!

You should tweet this idea to #Trump.  ;)

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #1162 on: December 08, 2016, 05:44:48 AM »
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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #1163 on: December 12, 2016, 03:55:15 PM »
Who are the dummies who paid for this??

Wisconsin Recount Ends, Trump Picks Up 162 Votes
by Breitbart News
12 Dec 2016
 
(AP) Republican Donald Trump’s victory in Wisconsin was reaffirmed Monday following a recount that showed him defeating Democrat Hillary Clinton by more than 22,000 votes.

Wisconsin finalized its recount on the same day that a federal judge issued a stinging rejection of a Green Party-backed request to recount paper ballots in Pennsylvania’s presidential election and scan some counties’ election systems for signs of hacking.

Green Party candidate Jill Stein successfully requested, and paid for, the Wisconsin recount while her attempts for similar statewide recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan were blocked by the courts. Stein only got about 1 percent of the vote in each of the states that Trump narrowly won on his way to the White House. She argued, without evidence, that voting machines in all three states were susceptible to hacking.

The numbers barely budged in Wisconsin after nearly 3 million votes were recounted. Trump picked up a net 162 votes and still won by more than 22,000 votes. The final results changed just 0.06 percent.

In Pennsylvania, U.S. District Judge Paul Diamond said there were at least six grounds that required him to reject the Green Party’s lawsuit, which had been opposed by Trump, the Pennsylvania Republican Party and the Pennsylvania attorney general’s office.

Suspicion of a hacked Pennsylvania election “borders on the irrational” while granting the Green Party’s recount bid could “ensure that no Pennsylvania vote counts” given Tuesday’s federal deadline to certify the vote for the Electoral College, wrote Diamond, an appointee of former President George W. Bush, a Republican.

“Most importantly, there is no credible evidence that any ‘hack’ occurred, and compelling evidence that Pennsylvania’s voting system was not in any way compromised,” Diamond wrote. He also said the lawsuit suffered from a lack of standing, potentially the lack of federal jurisdiction and an “unexplained, highly prejudicial” wait before filing last week’s lawsuit, four weeks after the Nov. 8 election.

The decision was the Green Party’s latest roadblock in Pennsylvania after hitting numerous walls in county and state courts. Green Party-backed lawyers argue that it was possible that computer hackers changed the election outcome and that Pennsylvania’s heavy use of paperless machines makes it a prime target. Stein also contended that Pennsylvania has erected unconstitutional barriers to voters seeking a recount.

A lawyer for the Green Party said Monday they were disappointed and unable to immediately say whether they would appeal.

“But one thing is clear,” said the lawyer, Ilann Maazel. “The Pennsylvania election system is not fair to voters and voters don’t know if their votes counted, and that’s a very large problem.”

In Pennsylvania, Trump beat Clinton in Pennsylvania by about 44,000 votes out of 6 million cast.

A federal judge halted Michigan’s recount last week after three days. Trump won Michigan by fewer than 11,000 votes out of nearly 4.8 million votes cast.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/12/12/wisconsin-recount-ends-trump-picks-162-votes/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #1164 on: December 12, 2016, 05:00:07 PM »
How much money did Stein gather for the recounts?

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #1165 on: December 12, 2016, 05:18:05 PM »
How much money did Stein gather for the recounts?

Millions.  But what she really gained was a list of donors who she will mine for contributions in 2020.  Dirty politics. 

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #1166 on: December 12, 2016, 06:35:41 PM »
Who are the dummies who paid for this??

Wisconsin Recount Ends, Trump Picks Up 162 Votes
by Breitbart News
12 Dec 2016
 
(AP) Republican Donald Trump’s victory in Wisconsin was reaffirmed Monday following a recount that showed him defeating Democrat Hillary Clinton by more than 22,000 votes.

Wisconsin finalized its recount on the same day that a federal judge issued a stinging rejection of a Green Party-backed request to recount paper ballots in Pennsylvania’s presidential election and scan some counties’ election systems for signs of hacking.

Green Party candidate Jill Stein successfully requested, and paid for, the Wisconsin recount while her attempts for similar statewide recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan were blocked by the courts. Stein only got about 1 percent of the vote in each of the states that Trump narrowly won on his way to the White House. She argued, without evidence, that voting machines in all three states were susceptible to hacking.

The numbers barely budged in Wisconsin after nearly 3 million votes were recounted. Trump picked up a net 162 votes and still won by more than 22,000 votes. The final results changed just 0.06 percent.

In Pennsylvania, U.S. District Judge Paul Diamond said there were at least six grounds that required him to reject the Green Party’s lawsuit, which had been opposed by Trump, the Pennsylvania Republican Party and the Pennsylvania attorney general’s office.

Suspicion of a hacked Pennsylvania election “borders on the irrational” while granting the Green Party’s recount bid could “ensure that no Pennsylvania vote counts” given Tuesday’s federal deadline to certify the vote for the Electoral College, wrote Diamond, an appointee of former President George W. Bush, a Republican.

“Most importantly, there is no credible evidence that any ‘hack’ occurred, and compelling evidence that Pennsylvania’s voting system was not in any way compromised,” Diamond wrote. He also said the lawsuit suffered from a lack of standing, potentially the lack of federal jurisdiction and an “unexplained, highly prejudicial” wait before filing last week’s lawsuit, four weeks after the Nov. 8 election.

The decision was the Green Party’s latest roadblock in Pennsylvania after hitting numerous walls in county and state courts. Green Party-backed lawyers argue that it was possible that computer hackers changed the election outcome and that Pennsylvania’s heavy use of paperless machines makes it a prime target. Stein also contended that Pennsylvania has erected unconstitutional barriers to voters seeking a recount.

A lawyer for the Green Party said Monday they were disappointed and unable to immediately say whether they would appeal.

“But one thing is clear,” said the lawyer, Ilann Maazel. “The Pennsylvania election system is not fair to voters and voters don’t know if their votes counted, and that’s a very large problem.”

In Pennsylvania, Trump beat Clinton in Pennsylvania by about 44,000 votes out of 6 million cast.

A federal judge halted Michigan’s recount last week after three days. Trump won Michigan by fewer than 11,000 votes out of nearly 4.8 million votes cast.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/12/12/wisconsin-recount-ends-trump-picks-162-votes/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

The dummies are the folks who supported Jill Stein's efforts with hard cash....or maybe not. Trump picked up votes. Isn't that a positive result?

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #1167 on: December 12, 2016, 06:36:49 PM »
Millions.  But what she really gained was a list of donors who she will mine for contributions in 2020.  Dirty politics. 

Yes, but will these donors stay with her, considering the results?

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #1168 on: December 13, 2016, 05:35:34 PM »
Yes, but will these donors stay with her, considering the results?

I'm sure a lot of them will.  A lot of partisans out there. 

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #1169 on: December 19, 2016, 04:16:50 PM »
Trump secures victory in Electoral College, as bid to flip electors flops
Published December 19, 2016
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Donald Trump won the Electoral College vote on Monday and secured his election as the 45th president of the United States, as the latest – and perhaps last – stop-Trump movement failed to gain traction in state capitals.

A fervent push by anti-Trump forces to persuade electors to defect had turned the normally mundane civic procedure into high drama.

But Trump easily surpassed the 270 electoral votes needed to win, as representatives tabbed to cast ballots in accordance with their states’ Nov. 8 decision mostly adhered to the election results. With several states still voting, Trump had 304 votes and Hillary Clinton had 169.

Texas put Trump over the top, despite two Republican electors casting protest votes.

Indiana Gov. Mike Pence afterward tweeted "congratulations" to his running mate while saying he was "honored & humbled" to be officially elected the next vice president.

Republican National Committee Co-Chair Sharon Day urged Trump’s detractors to stop fighting his election, now that his victory is affirmed.

“This historic election is now officially over and I look forward to President-elect Trump taking the oath of office in January,” she said in a statement. “For the good of the country, Democrats must stop their cynical attempts to undermine the legitimacy of this election, which Donald Trump won decisively in the Electoral College with more votes than any Republican since 1988.”

Elector antics were few and far between throughout the day, with most the disruptions occurring on the Democratic side. A Democratic elector in Maine tried to vote for Sen. Bernie Sanders, but switched to Clinton after it was ruled improper. Another who tried to vote for Sanders in Minnesota was replaced; a Colorado elector who tried to back Ohio Gov. John Kasich likewise was replaced. One of the biggest deviations was in Washington state, where three electors voted for Colin Powell and one voted for “Faith Spotted Eagle;” the remaining eight went to Clinton, the state’s winner. 

It marked the first time in four decades the state's electors broke from the popular vote. Washington Secretary of State Kim Wyman vowed to work with the state attorney general and charge the four unfaithful electors with a violation of Washington state civil law. Such violations carry a fine up to $1,000.

With Trump’s win now secured, a joint session of Congress is scheduled for Jan. 6 to certify the results.

Trump’s clear Electoral College victory could serve to deter any further last-ditch efforts to effectively nullify his November win and prevent his inauguration, though the battle may shift next to his Cabinet picks. 

Few expected the “faithless elector” push to imperil Trump’s victory on Monday.

Only one Republican elector – Texas’ Chris Suprun – publicly stated he would vote for an alternative candidate. (He backed Kasich, while another Texas elector used his ballot to vote for former congressman Ron Paul.) More than three dozen Republicans would have had to abandon Trump to complicate his path to the presidency.

But GOP electors still faced immense pressure -- with some even receiving threats -- from Trump foes in the run-up to Monday’s Electoral College vote. Those urging disorder in state capitals often cited Clinton’s popular-vote win, by roughly 2.6 million votes, over Trump in November.

Celebrities made public appeals to electors to use the arcane process to upend Trump’s victory, as some Democratic electors tried to persuade their Republican counterparts to defect. Reports that U.S. intelligence officials determined Russia interfered in the election to boost Trump – findings disputed by Trump himself – only fueled efforts to wield the Electoral College vote as a political circuit-breaker.

As electors met, thousands of protesters descended on state capitals Monday in one last push to convince Trump voters to change their minds.

In Arizona, dozens of protesters gathered outside the meeting site, marching around the Capitol mall and carrying signs that said, "Stop Trump." More than 200 demonstrators gathered at Pennsylvania's Capitol, chanting, "No treason, no Trump!"

Both states, and dozens of others, cast their electoral votes for Trump anyway.

In Mississippi, Gov. Phil Bryant dismissed attempts to sway Republican electors.

"This idea … that we want to change the electors’ minds who have been dedicated to Donald Trump very early in the process I think is just misguided,” he said.

If nothing else, the furor over Monday’s proceedings has served to re-acquaint Americans with a process that few pay attention to every four years.

The Electoral College was devised at the Constitutional Convention in 1787. It was a compromise between those who wanted popular elections for president and those who wanted no public input.

The Electoral College has 538 members, with the number allocated to each state based on how many representatives it has in the House plus one for each senator. The District of Columbia gets three, despite the fact that the home to Congress has no vote in Congress.

To be elected president, the winner must get at least half plus one -- or 270 electoral votes. Most states give all their electoral votes to whichever candidate wins that state's popular vote. Maine and Nebraska award them by congressional district.

After a joint session of Congress certifies the results on Jan. 6, the next president will be sworn in on Jan. 20.

Trump already is nearly done naming his Cabinet appointees, as he prepares for confirmation hearings and the inauguration ceremonies, in addition to his first 100 days agenda.

Despite the transition process being well underway, Republican electors said they were deluged with emails, phone calls and letters urging them not to support the billionaire businessman in the days and weeks leading up to Monday’s proceedings. Many of the emails were part of coordinated campaigns.

"The letters are actually quite sad," said Lee Green, a Republican elector from North Carolina. "They honestly believe the propaganda. They believe our nation is being taken over by a dark and malevolent force."

Wirt A. Yerger Jr., a Republican elector in Mississippi, said, "I have gotten several thousand emails asking me not to vote for Trump. I threw them all away."

Arizona elector Robert Graham told Fox News on Saturday that the state’s 11 electors received hundreds of thousands of emails telling them not to vote for Trump and that he’s received information that some of the other 10 have been followed or have received a death threat.

“It’s out of hand when you have such … a small group of people that is pushing so hard against millions if not hundreds of millions of people who still appreciate this whole system,” said Graham, chairman of the Arizona Republican Party. “The Electoral College is part of the Constitution.”

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/19/electoral-college-meets-to-formally-elect-trump-amid-protests.html

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #1170 on: December 19, 2016, 04:30:33 PM »
But Trump easily surpassed the 270 electoral votes needed to win, as representatives tabbed to cast ballots in accordance with their states’ Nov. 8 decision mostly adhered to the election results. With several states still voting, Trump had 304 votes and Hillary Clinton had 169.

This must be one of those "fake news". It was supposed to be a Hillary landslide!

Scientist predicts 99% chance of Clinton win

Lawrence speaks to Princeton’s Sam Wang, who says Hillary Clinton has a greater than 99% chance of winning the presidency & that Democrats have a strong chance of taking the Senate.

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/scientist-predicts-99-chance-of-clinton-win-801634371744


Electoral College Map Update: Pollster Predicts Hillary Clinton Landslide, Winning All Swing States Except Iowa, Ohio

A candidate needs 270 electoral votes to capture the presidency. Emerson pollsters predicted Clinton will garner 323 electoral votes compared to 215 for Trump.

http://www.ibtimes.com/electoral-college-map-update-pollster-predicts-hillary-clinton-landslide-winning-all-2443087


Hillary Clinton Will Win Election By A Landslide According To Moody's Highly Reliable Election Model

The Hill reports that the Moody Analytics model is predicting that Hillary Clinton will win with 332 electoral votes. That’s well ahead of the 270 electoral votes she needs to clinch the presidency.

http://www.inquisitr.com/3666578/hillary-clinton-will-win-election-by-a-landslide-according-to-moodys-highly-reliable-election-model/

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #1171 on: December 19, 2016, 04:50:54 PM »
This must be one of those "fake news". It was supposed to be a Hillary landslide!

Scientist predicts 99% chance of Clinton win

Lawrence speaks to Princeton’s Sam Wang, who says Hillary Clinton has a greater than 99% chance of winning the presidency & that Democrats have a strong chance of taking the Senate.

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/scientist-predicts-99-chance-of-clinton-win-801634371744


Electoral College Map Update: Pollster Predicts Hillary Clinton Landslide, Winning All Swing States Except Iowa, Ohio

A candidate needs 270 electoral votes to capture the presidency. Emerson pollsters predicted Clinton will garner 323 electoral votes compared to 215 for Trump.

http://www.ibtimes.com/electoral-college-map-update-pollster-predicts-hillary-clinton-landslide-winning-all-2443087


Hillary Clinton Will Win Election By A Landslide According To Moody's Highly Reliable Election Model

The Hill reports that the Moody Analytics model is predicting that Hillary Clinton will win with 332 electoral votes. That’s well ahead of the 270 electoral votes she needs to clinch the presidency.

http://www.inquisitr.com/3666578/hillary-clinton-will-win-election-by-a-landslide-according-to-moodys-highly-reliable-election-model/

nope, those are just horribly bad predictions

predictions are often wrong

BTW - enjoy the victory lap

try to keep in mind that Trump has done nothing yet except lose the popular vote by almost 3 million while winning the electoral college

He's got 4 years of collossal fuck ups ahead (maybe less if he gets impeached)

Repubs need to conserve their energy for the excuses they will need to manufacture as this idiot stumbles through one self inflicted crisis after another

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #1172 on: December 19, 2016, 05:05:14 PM »
This must be one of those "fake news". It was supposed to be a Hillary landslide!

Scientist predicts 99% chance of Clinton win

Lawrence speaks to Princeton’s Sam Wang, who says Hillary Clinton has a greater than 99% chance of winning the presidency & that Democrats have a strong chance of taking the Senate.

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/scientist-predicts-99-chance-of-clinton-win-801634371744


Electoral College Map Update: Pollster Predicts Hillary Clinton Landslide, Winning All Swing States Except Iowa, Ohio

A candidate needs 270 electoral votes to capture the presidency. Emerson pollsters predicted Clinton will garner 323 electoral votes compared to 215 for Trump.

http://www.ibtimes.com/electoral-college-map-update-pollster-predicts-hillary-clinton-landslide-winning-all-2443087


Hillary Clinton Will Win Election By A Landslide According To Moody's Highly Reliable Election Model

The Hill reports that the Moody Analytics model is predicting that Hillary Clinton will win with 332 electoral votes. That’s well ahead of the 270 electoral votes she needs to clinch the presidency.

http://www.inquisitr.com/3666578/hillary-clinton-will-win-election-by-a-landslide-according-to-moodys-highly-reliable-election-model/

One of the most satisfying things for me during this election was to see the media fail in its attempt to drag Clinton across the finish line.  Burying WikiLeaks.  Working with debate folks to try and turn the election results (the tax returns and bimbo eruption).  Using the same Clinton talking points ("power through").  Trying to push the narrative that Trump had no path to victory.  Just a wide scale attempt to try and manipulate the outcome.  And it failed. 

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #1173 on: December 19, 2016, 06:37:00 PM »
nope, those are just horribly bad predictions

predictions are often wrong

BTW - enjoy the victory lap

try to keep in mind that Trump has done nothing yet except lose the popular vote by almost 3 million while winning the electoral college

He's got 4 years of collossal fuck ups ahead (maybe less if he gets impeached)

Repubs need to conserve their energy for the excuses they will need to manufacture as this idiot stumbles through one self inflicted crisis after another

Yeah and that is what you need to do to be POTUS, win the electoral college, so what is your point?

You see you are a prime example of why I don't like leftist, anyone who doesn't think the way you do is stupid. Your all for free speech, as long as it's your kind of speech. You need to put everybody who disagree's with you in little categories like racist, bigot, misogynist and the list goes on and on. And worst of all you celebrate stupidity, the atrocity that has been committed against the youth of this nation with you politically correct horse shit. Now they need safe spaces to protect them from triggers and micro aggression,  some play doh and coloring books to sooth their fragile emotions.   
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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #1174 on: December 19, 2016, 06:47:32 PM »
Yeah and that is what you need to do to be POTUS, win the electoral college, so what is your point?

You see you are a prime example of why I don't like leftist, anyone who doesn't think the way you do is stupid. Your all for free speech, as long as it's your kind of speech. You need to put everybody who disagree's with you in little categories like racist, bigot, misogynist and the list goes on and on. And worst of all you celebrate stupidity, the atrocity that has been committed against the youth of this nation with you politically correct horse shit. Now they need safe spaces to protect them from triggers and micro aggression,  some play doh and coloring books to sooth their fragile emotions.  

my point is that Trump has no popular mandate (despite the fact that Repubs keep pretending he does).

When did I call anyone a bigot or a misogynist in that post.  Why all the projection?

My other point is that Trump is very likely to create a lot of self inflicted wounds to this country just given his penchant to talk out of his ass (or rather tweet) so maybe save some of your energy for the multiple excuses your side will need to generate

Also kind of pathetic that Trump keeps saying he won in a landslide

He lost the popular vote by almost 3 million and his electoral college win is in the bottom third

Any idea why he feels the need to make this blatant lie ?