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Title: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: Eldon on April 10, 2008, 01:38:38 PM
UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/6517359.stm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=445979&in_page_id=1770

Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: shootfighter1 on April 10, 2008, 01:53:32 PM
You've got to be kidding.   ???
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: Mars on April 10, 2008, 01:55:57 PM
ridiculous.
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: Fury on April 10, 2008, 02:01:34 PM
Disgusting. Watch these pussy Brits sit around while their country slowly turns into an Islamic state is pathetic.

History should be taught in its entirety.
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: OzmO on April 10, 2008, 02:14:17 PM
This is unbelievable!   >:(
 

People are over reacting to other people's over sensitivity.

they all need to get the hell over it.   If the Muslims don't like what's being taught, get the fuck out.  Or get a dam job and send your kids to a private school.
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: w8tlftr on April 10, 2008, 02:34:49 PM
Damn. That's just sad and pathetic.

Durka durka pedo mohammed jihad.

Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: Fury on April 10, 2008, 02:36:14 PM
Pretty tired of the West only catering to Islam. About high time they either assimilate or get the fuck out.
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: Rimbaud on April 10, 2008, 05:22:17 PM
Pretty tired of the West only catering to Islam. About high time they either assimilate or get the fuck out.

I would have to agree it's gone too far. I've got nothing against Islam but Islamic countries don't exactly cater to Christians & Jews living in their countries.
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 11, 2008, 05:31:32 AM
I would have to agree it's gone too far. I've got nothing against Islam but Islamic countries don't exactly cater to Christians & Jews living in their countries.

So you're down with slavery, the possession of women and segregation between religions all sanctioned by the koran?

Interesting.
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: Slapper on April 12, 2008, 07:30:55 AM
That's where I'd draw the fucking line with Islam. The truth is the truth.

Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 12, 2008, 07:46:32 AM
So you don't draw the line that women are a field to be ploughed and their voting right in court is 1/4 that of a muslim man?

How about believe slavery is acceptable? You down with that too? But you're not down with denying the holocaust?

Interesting!
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: Camel Jockey on April 12, 2008, 12:55:07 PM
As bad as people are for not wanting to integrate; the UK government is far worse for catering to them.
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: danielson on April 12, 2008, 12:57:26 PM
Adam will sort it out....


When he commissioned the report last year, schools minister Lord Adonis said the national curriculum encouraged teachers to choose content "likely to resonate in their multicultural classrooms"
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: shootfighter1 on April 12, 2008, 01:26:47 PM
Thats a very good point Camel:

"As bad as people are for not wanting to integrate; the UK government is far worse for catering to them"

Its incredibly rude that immigrants come to a new country, disrespect their traditions and refuse to integrate...then the governement allows and in some ways encourages this?  How does that make any sense?
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: Camel Jockey on April 12, 2008, 01:35:25 PM
Thats a very good point Camel:

"As bad as people are for not wanting to integrate; the UK government is far worse for catering to them"

Its incredibly rude that immigrants come to a new country, disrespect their traditions and refuse to integrate...then the governement allows and in some ways encourages this?  How does that make any sense?



It's even done here.. Drivers' license examinations in SPANISH.. wtf is that?  :-X Pressing one for english? I don't care if businesses do it, but when the government does it, it's pretty much a slap in the face.
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 12, 2008, 04:03:20 PM
UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/6517359.stm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=445979&in_page_id=1770



man your country is getting pwned again n again by mus..ahem..brownies...

poetic justice i say!  ;D
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 12, 2008, 04:04:30 PM
Pretty tired of the West only catering to Islam. About high time they either assimilate or get the fuck out.

kinda like the brownies want whitie to get the fuck out of saudi??


aww but you need their oil...  ;D
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 12, 2008, 04:05:11 PM
As bad as people are for not wanting to integrate; the UK government is far worse for catering to them.

its their own fucking fault...why should we feel sorry for em???  :-\
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: SAMSON123 on April 13, 2008, 01:24:32 AM
Disgusting. Watch these pussy Brits sit around while their country slowly turns into an Islamic state is pathetic.

History should be taught in its entirety.

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ...LETS START BY ADMITTING THAT THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED...YOU FOOLS FELL FOR THE JEW LIE

http://www.onethirdoftheholocaust.com/

http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/HOLOHOAX.htm

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax.htm
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: 24KT on April 13, 2008, 01:27:10 AM
Did anyone actually read the entire article, ...or just the inflammatory subject header?
And for those who did read the entire article... did you tune out the contents after reading the subject heading, or the first few sentences?

The reason I ask is that the jest of that piece said to me that authorities acknowledged they were sending teachers into the classrooms ill-equipped. For all intents & purposes, Muslims were a mere footnote in that article and not the focus. The brief example mentioned in passing was not so much a desire to avoid offending muslims, ...but rather an attempt to avoid rousing anti-semitism. The author spent more tme discussing the slave trade than they did about muslims. I can understand why that would be such a difficult subject, ...especially in Britain with their particular history, ...however the teaching of history is essential for any nation's educational system.

The point of the article was about how teachers were ill equipped to present a balanced perspectives without creating alienation in students. Why should this be considered less of a problem than it is anywhere else? ... because one of the potentially offended or alienated groups may be Muslims? I see this as no different than in North America where teachers have difficulty presenting a curriculum that discusses evolutionary ideas in a region full of christian fundamentalists. Or those who say that American history especially as it pertains to the TransAtlantic Slave Trade should not be taught because it makes white students feel bad (a comment uttered by a poster on these very boards) Are you saying cultural sensitivity is fine as long as it is WASP sensibilities one is concerned with, ...but anyone elses is irrelevant? This isn't even about cultural sensitivity as much as it is about the lack of resources available to educators. or do you all propose teachers teach a BS version of the "official story" regardless of how inaccurate, or biased it may be? Have we forgotten what inaccurate culturally biased dogmas breed? If you've never been subjected to that kind of BS in the classroom, you probably would not understand.

The point is the teachers are not "catering to muslim agendas"... or any other [insert group here] agendas, ...they're taking the path of least resistance while admitting their own inadequacies. The solution is not to exclude subjects from the curriculum, ...but rather to equip the teachers properly, ...enabling them to present a balanced view of history without causing upset, trauma, or the stigmatization of their students, ...and right now they are admitting they don't know how to do that.  Blaming the student body or stigmatizing them for a teacher's inadequacies is ridiculous. The solution is to equip the teachers.
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 13, 2008, 04:30:11 AM
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ...LETS START BY ADMITTING THAT THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED...YOU FOOLS FELL FOR THE JEW LIE

http://www.onethirdoftheholocaust.com/

http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/HOLOHOAX.htm

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax.htm

Islam is satanic, muhammad molested children and murdered boys (which he also probably molested).

Aisha was an whore. Islam contradicts itself continually and even provides verses to protect itself from its own contradictions.

Did anyone actually read the entire article, ...or just the inflammatory subject header?
And for those who did read the entire article... did you tune out the contents after reading the subject heading, or the first few sentences?

The reason I ask is that the jest of that piece said to me that authorities acknowledged they were sending teachers into the classrooms ill-equipped. For all intents & purposes, Muslims were a mere footnote in that article and not the focus. The brief example mentioned in passing was not so much a desire to avoid offending muslims, ...but rather an attempt to avoid rousing anti-semitism. The author spent more tme discussing the slave trade than they did about muslims. I can understand why that would be such a difficult subject, ...especially in Britain with their particular history, ...however the teaching of history is essential for any nation's educational system.

The point of the article was about how teachers were ill equipped to present a balanced perspectives without creating alienation in students. Why should this be considered less of a problem than it is anywhere else? ... because one of the potentially offended or alienated groups may be Muslims? I see this as no different than in North America where teachers have difficulty presenting a curriculum that discusses evolutionary ideas in a region full of christian fundamentalists. Or those who say that American history especially as it pertains to the TransAtlantic Slave Trade should not be taught because it makes white students feel bad (a comment uttered by a poster on these very boards) Are you saying cultural sensitivity is fine as long as it is WASP sensibilities one is concerned with, ...but anyone elses is irrelevant? This isn't even about cultural sensitivity as much as it is about the lack of resources available to educators. or do you all propose teachers teach a BS version of the "official story" regardless of how inaccurate, or biased it may be? Have we forgotten what inaccurate culturally biased dogmas breed? If you've never been subjected to that kind of BS in the classroom, you probably would not understand.

The point is the teachers are not "catering to muslim agendas"... or any other [insert group here] agendas, ...they're taking the path of least resistance while admitting their own inadequacies. The solution is not to exclude subjects from the curriculum, ...but rather to equip the teachers properly, ...enabling them to present a balanced view of history without causing upset, trauma, or the stigmatization of their students, ...and right now they are admitting they don't know how to do that.  Blaming the student body or stigmatizing them for a teacher's inadequacies is ridiculous. The solution is to equip the teachers.

Now this is typical apologist drivel.

It has everything to do with muslim pupils. Of course the media is as sheepish as you are at pointing the finger because you're a pro-multiculturalist coward.
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: SAMSON123 on April 13, 2008, 08:49:28 AM
I would have to agree it's gone too far. I've got nothing against Islam but Islamic countries don't exactly cater to Christians & Jews living in their countries.

You're obviously exceedingly ignorant to facts...There is a large Christian adn jewish population in both Iraq and Iran. as a matter of fact the Christians were som eof the first people killed in amerikkkas attack on Iraq with both Christian churches and Islamic mosques bombed. See you amerikkkans are too ignorant to live.
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: SAMSON123 on April 13, 2008, 09:21:56 AM
Islam is satanic, muhammad molested children and murdered boys (which he also probably molested).

AND CHRISTIANITY AS THE CATHOLICS WOULD HAVE IT IS GOD FEARING??...THEY PUT THE FEAR OF GOD IN THE YOUNG BOYS BY RAPING THEM...THAT'S SOME RELIGION...

Aisha was an whore. Islam contradicts itself continually and even provides verses to protect itself from its own contradictions.

PROVE AISHA WAS A WHORE?

AMERIKKKAN CONSTITUTION AND ITS SOCIETY ARE A CONTRADICTION...WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BEG FOR YOR RIGHTS AND WHY SO EASILY VIOLATED? WHY A SOCIETY WHERE CHILDREN ARE TAKEN FROM HOMES AND MOLESTED IN STATE RUN SOCIAL AGENCIES? YOUR FORM OF CHRISTIANITY IS THE REAL SATANIC WORSHIP

Now this is typical apologist drivel.

It has everything to do with muslim pupils. Of course the media is as sheepish as you are at pointing the finger because you're a pro-multiculturalist coward.

PRO MULTICULURIST IS BETTER THAN RACIST...BEING THAT WHITES ARE ONLY 5% OF THE PLANETS POPULATION YOU WOULD THINK YOU COULD GET ALONG BEING THAT YOU ARE THE IGNORANT MINORITY...BUT ALAST I GUESS NOT. MAYBE ITS YOUR INFERIORITY COMPLEX
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: Mars on April 13, 2008, 10:09:41 AM
You're obviously exceedingly ignorant to facts...There is a large Christian adn jewish population in both Iraq and Iran. as a matter of fact the Christians were som eof the first people killed in amerikkkas attack on Iraq with both Christian churches and Islamic mosques bombed. See you amerikkkans are too ignorant to live.

Exactly, theres the truth.
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: Dos Equis on April 13, 2008, 10:14:48 AM
Outrageous.  On the other hand, we whitewash our history books too.   :-\
Title: Re: UK schools ignore the Holocaust in history class to avoid offending Muslims
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 13, 2008, 11:32:33 AM
Islam is satanic, muhammad molested children and murdered boys (which he also probably molested).

AND CHRISTIANITY AS THE CATHOLICS WOULD HAVE IT IS GOD FEARING??...THEY PUT THE FEAR OF GOD IN THE YOUNG BOYS BY RAPING THEM...THAT'S SOME RELIGION...

Aisha was an whore. Islam contradicts itself continually and even provides verses to protect itself from its own contradictions.

PROVE AISHA WAS A WHORE?

AMERIKKKAN CONSTITUTION AND ITS SOCIETY ARE A CONTRADICTION...WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BEG FOR YOR RIGHTS AND WHY SO EASILY VIOLATED? WHY A SOCIETY WHERE CHILDREN ARE TAKEN FROM HOMES AND MOLESTED IN STATE RUN SOCIAL AGENCIES? YOUR FORM OF CHRISTIANITY IS THE REAL SATANIC WORSHIP

Now this is typical apologist drivel.

It has everything to do with muslim pupils. Of course the media is as sheepish as you are at pointing the finger because you're a pro-multiculturalist coward.

PRO MULTICULURIST IS BETTER THAN RACIST...BEING THAT WHITES ARE ONLY 5% OF THE PLANETS POPULATION YOU WOULD THINK YOU COULD GET ALONG BEING THAT YOU ARE THE IGNORANT MINORITY...BUT ALAST I GUESS NOT. MAYBE ITS YOUR INFERIORITY COMPLEX

Paedophilia isn't promoted by the Bible. It is in the koran because it states that muhammad is the perfect example for life, thus child molestation is OK.

Racist? Me? Who's the one bringing race into the argument? YOU!

And guess what, your post highlights your insecurities and jealousies; if white man is 5% of the population on earth, we've been the most active impressive in regards to achievement. Thank you for the props!