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Title: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Dos Equis on November 08, 2012, 11:28:56 AM
I hope this doesn't become a trend.   :-\

Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Posted: 11/08/2012 1:05 pm EST Updated: 11/08/2012 1:49 pm EST

One Las Vegas CEO reportedly had an extreme reaction to President Obama's reelection.

“David,” whose full name and company have yet to be disclosed, told radio host Kevin Wall on 100.5 KXNT that he fired 22 of his 114 employees as a direct result of Obama’s win, arguing that “elections have consequences” and that he needs “to survive.” “David” refused to identify himself for “obvious reasons,” according to the radio station.

“I had to lay off 22 people today to make sure that my business is gonna thrive and I’m gonna be around for years to come,” the CEO said. “I have to build up that nest egg now for the taxes and regulations that are coming my way.”

"David's" identity and his story have yet to be verified, but if it's true, the CEO would be among the first, if not the first outright, to fire workers as a direct result of Obama's reelection, a threat made many times before the presidential election. The new political push by employers was the result of both the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision, which made such declarations legal, and a June conference call in which Mitt Romney urged employers to tell their workers how they voted.

The company head, who described his workers as “mostly Hispanic,” said that he warned them about a month ago that if Obama won reelection, provisions like Obamacare and extra payroll taxes would force him to make certain considerations in order to keep his business running. Instead of firing workers, other companies, like Papa John's, said they would pass on the costs of Obamacare to consumers.

“David” is one of many CEOs that warned employees of consequences if Obama won reelection. Billionaire and Westgate Resort head David Siegel emailed a memo to his employees in the lead up to the election warning them to vote for Romney or else. But in the wake of Obama’s win, Siegel is saying that he gave all of his employees raises.

Some companies, like Wynn resorts, went even further by giving their employees voter guides. Peter Bos, CEO of real estate developer Legendary Inc., attached his filled-out election ballot, which included a vote for Romney, to his employees paychecks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/08/david-las-vegas-ceo-fired-workers_n_2093369.html
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: 240 is Back on November 08, 2012, 11:34:35 AM
I wonder if those 22 people happened to have Obama stickers on their bumpers?
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Roger Bacon on November 08, 2012, 11:36:42 AM
I don't know the details in this case. 

These Union fucks think they can shake their employers, and governments down...  That can only go on for so long.
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: James28 on November 08, 2012, 11:40:02 AM
I don't know the details in this case. 

These Union fucks think they can shake their employers, and governments down...  That can only go on for so long.

Agreed. They're scum of the worst kind.
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: whork on November 08, 2012, 11:40:38 AM
I don't know the details in this case. 

These Union fucks think they can shake their employers, and governments down...  That can only go on for so long.

Do you have any personal experiences with unions Pip?
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Irongrip400 on November 08, 2012, 12:18:06 PM
A company I subcontract work from, told his employees that if Obama got reelected that they would close their doors on December 31st. Heard that he gave the announcement today that they were going through with it.
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Jack T. Cross on November 08, 2012, 12:49:33 PM
So this is one of the many wonderful businesses these days that purposely develop a culture where a typical American couldn't work due to his or her inability to communicate in Spanish, if nothing else.

The "boss" sounds like an un-American POS to begin with.  He should fail based on that.
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Roger Bacon on November 08, 2012, 01:17:32 PM
Do you have any personal experiences with unions Pip?

Yes, the town I live in is being raped by them as we speak.  I'm closely following it.

The average salary of our police and fire is like %66 percent higher than that of the private sector here.  They still get automatic salary increases every year, nothing city council can do about it (not sure why?).  There was talk of putting them on 12 hour shifts, cutting the automatic salary increase down a little bit (not ending them), and some other cost saving measures like closing a fire station on the out skirts of town.  400 or more FOP and IAFF members showed up at the next council meeting and bitched at council one after another to try and intimidate the councilmen forcing them into raping the citizens of my community more.  That's just one incident, this shit has been going on for the last 6 years.  They keep putting public safety levys on the ballot, and the IAFF and FOP go house to house scaring people into voting for them.  Mean while, people are still being foreclosed on and their property taxes are sky rocketing.  While most police and fire make $100k a year.

Private company, employees here went on strike over the elimination of job classifications, no joke.  3000 workers were "locked out" for 6 months over this bullshit.  These people and their families went hungry because some misguided greedy fucking union used them as pawns.


Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Roger Bacon on November 08, 2012, 01:20:50 PM
Councilman here mentioned our governors support of the union reform stuff going on in Wisconsin.  He didn't actually endorse it, just mentioned it in a council meeting.

These fucking union lunatics spent all kinds of money and man power trying to have him recalled.  Fucking insanity. 

Luckily the people here stood behind our councilman and told the unions to fuck off.
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: whork on November 08, 2012, 02:01:09 PM
Yes, the town I live in is being raped by them as we speak.  I'm closely following it.

The average salary of our police and fire is like %66 percent higher than that of the private sector here.  They still get automatic salary increases every year, nothing city council can do about it (not sure why?).  There was talk of putting them on 12 hour shifts, cutting the automatic salary increase down a little bit (not ending them), and some other cost saving measures like closing a fire station on the out skirts of town.  400 or more FOP and IAFF members showed up at the next council meeting and bitched at council one after another to try and intimidate the councilmen forcing them into raping the citizens of my community more.  That's just one incident, this shit has been going on for the last 6 years.  They keep putting public safety levys on the ballot, and the IAFF and FOP go house to house scaring people into voting for them.  Mean while, people are still being foreclosed on and their property taxes are sky rocketing.  While most police and fire make $100k a year.

Private company, employees here went on strike over the elimination of job classifications, no joke.  3000 workers were "locked out" for 6 months over this bullshit.  These people and their families went hungry because some misguided greedy fucking union used them as pawns.




It looks like the Unions are more harm than good at your parts
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: OzmO on November 08, 2012, 02:19:34 PM
A company I subcontract work from, told his employees that if Obama got reelected that they would close their doors on December 31st. Heard that he gave the announcement today that they were going through with it.

That's just fucking stupid.  If the business is profitable then it stays if it isn't then it goes.  Nothing that happened this week would change that, unless the business makes Romeny president dolls.
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Jack T. Cross on November 08, 2012, 02:26:23 PM
That's just fucking stupid.  If the business is profitable then it stays if it isn't then it goes.  Nothing that happened this week would change that, unless the business makes Romeny president dolls.

 ;D
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: dr.chimps on November 08, 2012, 03:02:14 PM
That's just fucking stupid.  If the business is profitable then it stays if it isn't then it goes.  Nothing that happened this week would change that, unless the business makes Romeny president dolls.
Ha! I'll bet this Las Vegas 'business man' owns a landscaping business of illegals, or one of those that hands out the flyers to tourists. Either way, total douchebag.
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Roger Bacon on November 08, 2012, 03:09:14 PM
It looks like the Unions are more harm than good at your parts

haha, thanks for not arguing with me about it.

You're definitely one of the more "fair and balanced" getbiggers.  ;D
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: MCWAY on November 08, 2012, 03:20:02 PM
I hope this doesn't become a trend.   :-\

Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Posted: 11/08/2012 1:05 pm EST Updated: 11/08/2012 1:49 pm EST

One Las Vegas CEO reportedly had an extreme reaction to President Obama's reelection.

“David,” whose full name and company have yet to be disclosed, told radio host Kevin Wall on 100.5 KXNT that he fired 22 of his 114 employees as a direct result of Obama’s win, arguing that “elections have consequences” and that he needs “to survive.” “David” refused to identify himself for “obvious reasons,” according to the radio station.

“I had to lay off 22 people today to make sure that my business is gonna thrive and I’m gonna be around for years to come,” the CEO said. “I have to build up that nest egg now for the taxes and regulations that are coming my way.”

"David's" identity and his story have yet to be verified, but if it's true, the CEO would be among the first, if not the first outright, to fire workers as a direct result of Obama's reelection, a threat made many times before the presidential election. The new political push by employers was the result of both the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision, which made such declarations legal, and a June conference call in which Mitt Romney urged employers to tell their workers how they voted.

The company head, who described his workers as “mostly Hispanic,” said that he warned them about a month ago that if Obama won reelection, provisions like Obamacare and extra payroll taxes would force him to make certain considerations in order to keep his business running. Instead of firing workers, other companies, like Papa John's, said they would pass on the costs of Obamacare to consumers.

“David” is one of many CEOs that warned employees of consequences if Obama won reelection. Billionaire and Westgate Resort head David Siegel emailed a memo to his employees in the lead up to the election warning them to vote for Romney or else. But in the wake of Obama’s win, Siegel is saying that he gave all of his employees raises.

Some companies, like Wynn resorts, went even further by giving their employees voter guides. Peter Bos, CEO of real estate developer Legendary Inc., attached his filled-out election ballot, which included a vote for Romney, to his employees paychecks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/08/david-las-vegas-ceo-fired-workers_n_2093369.html

Unfortunately, we're going to see more of this.


Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Jack T. Cross on November 08, 2012, 03:55:16 PM
I wonder what reasoning was behind his description of the employees.
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Jack T. Cross on November 08, 2012, 04:01:54 PM
I'd like to know a lot more about the origin of this story.  Obviously, it's meant for widespread consumption.
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 08, 2012, 04:52:20 PM
I've been a small business owner, and I can't for the life of me think of why I would fire employees based on who was president.... It seems to me there would be something else going on that caused me to struggle that much.. 
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: War-Horse on November 08, 2012, 07:02:53 PM
Ha! I'll bet this Las Vegas 'business man' owns a landscaping business of illegals, or one of those that hands out the flyers to tourists. Either way, total douchebag.

this ^^^^
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: War-Horse on November 08, 2012, 07:05:27 PM
I've been a small business owner, and I can't for the life of me think of why I would fire employees based on who was president.... It seems to me there would be something else going on that caused me to struggle that much.. 


Its a reaction to seeing their core values of hatred, greed and power falling into oblivion.   
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: whork on November 09, 2012, 02:12:37 AM
haha, thanks for not arguing with me about it.

You're definitely one of the more "fair and balanced" getbiggers.  ;D

Thanks :)

I try not to argue with facts its a battle you cant win
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: headhuntersix on November 09, 2012, 02:19:11 AM
I guess the rich left wingers aren't greedy...its only the rich right wingers. Man you libs are fucking retards...and now you own it all.
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: whork on November 09, 2012, 02:32:42 AM
I guess the rich left wingers aren't greedy...its only the rich right wingers. Man you libs are fucking retards...and now you own it all.

 :'( :'(
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 09, 2012, 07:34:36 AM
I guess the rich left wingers aren't greedy...its only the rich right wingers. Man you libs are fucking retards...and now you own it all.

Bitter much?
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Shockwave on November 09, 2012, 07:41:02 AM
Yes, the town I live in is being raped by them as we speak.  I'm closely following it.

The average salary of our police and fire is like %66 percent higher than that of the private sector here.  They still get automatic salary increases every year, nothing city council can do about it (not sure why?).  There was talk of putting them on 12 hour shifts, cutting the automatic salary increase down a little bit (not ending them), and some other cost saving measures like closing a fire station on the out skirts of town.  400 or more FOP and IAFF members showed up at the next council meeting and bitched at council one after another to try and intimidate the councilmen forcing them into raping the citizens of my community more.  That's just one incident, this shit has been going on for the last 6 years.  They keep putting public safety levys on the ballot, and the IAFF and FOP go house to house scaring people into voting for them.  Mean while, people are still being foreclosed on and their property taxes are sky rocketing.  While most police and fire make $100k a year.

Private company, employees here went on strike over the elimination of job classifications, no joke.  3000 workers were "locked out" for 6 months over this bullshit.  These people and their families went hungry because some misguided greedy fucking union used them as pawns.



Similar thing going on up here, the garbage truck drivers are now getting paid 100k a year thanks to their union. 100k. To drive a fucking garbage truck. WTF!
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 09, 2012, 07:46:52 AM
Similar thing going on up here, the garbage truck drivers are now getting paid 100k a year thanks to their union. 100k. To drive a fucking garbage truck. WTF!

One man's trash is another man's treasure.  So just look at them like the gypsy Brinks transportation specialists that they really are.
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Roger Bacon on November 09, 2012, 09:06:30 AM
Similar thing going on up here, the garbage truck drivers are now getting paid 100k a year thanks to their union. 100k. To drive a fucking garbage truck. WTF!

infuckingsane

I think it's actually funny how these union guys will stand up and defend this.  They'll bullshit you for hours.

Fuck it, I'm moving there.  I'm going to be a garbageman.
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Jack T. Cross on November 09, 2012, 10:24:21 AM
This story sounds more "sweat shop" than "union shop", if it's even real.

And why would the liberal media take a completely unverified, anonymous story such as this, and put a spotlight on it?
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: 240 is Back on November 09, 2012, 11:56:41 AM
i think 100k per year - to pick up trash all day - might actually be worth it.

physically intense work in very tough/smelly circumstances.
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Shockwave on November 09, 2012, 11:59:31 AM
i think 100k per year - to pick up trash all day - might actually be worth it.

physically intense work in very tough/smelly circumstances.
They dont get out of their trucks here. They have hydraulic arms that pick the garbage can up and dump it. If your can isn't in proper position for them to pick it up (too far away from the road, turned slighlty, etc), too bad. They don't dump it. They don't get out of the trucks, period.
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Roger Bacon on November 09, 2012, 01:56:03 PM
I don't really understand how the government got so involved with the collective bargaining and all that.

I absolutely think people should have the right to unionize, go on strike, slow down work and all that.  In their own capacity as private individuals.

Employers should have the right to set wages, fire those who won't work, etc...
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Shockwave on November 09, 2012, 01:57:06 PM
I don't really understand how the government got so involved with the collective bargaining and all that.

I absolutely think people should have the right to organize, go on strike, slow down work and all that.

The company should have the right to hire/fire, set the wages, etc...
Thats the way its supposed to work. The Government (I believe) largely took over the unions jobs in many cases, setting work hours, minimum wage, etc, etc.
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Roger Bacon on November 09, 2012, 01:59:49 PM
Thats the way its supposed to work. The Government (I believe) largely took over the unions jobs in many cases, setting work hours, minimum wage, etc, etc.

I don't understand how that works legally.  My city literally can't afford to pay for police and fire, yet they're not legally allowed to lower their wages or even stop increasing their pay. 

The employer has no say in the employees wages.

How the hell does that work?
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: POB on November 09, 2012, 05:00:48 PM
You want to take  a huge step towards "socialism" try and break the union. If it were to work you'd see lower wages across the board both union and non-union...
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 09, 2012, 05:39:09 PM
I don't understand how that works legally.  My city literally can't afford to pay for police and fire, yet they're not legally allowed to lower their wages or even stop increasing their pay. 

The employer has no say in the employees wages.

How the hell does that work?

Usually how it works is the city negotiates a contract with the employees.. then the city blows their money on other things that don't pan out... then the employees are made out to be the bad guys... that's how it usually works..
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Roger Bacon on November 09, 2012, 05:55:58 PM
Usually how it works is the city negotiates a contract with the employees.. then the city blows their money on other things that don't pan out... then the employees are made out to be the bad guys... that's how it usually works..

I'm doing some research, that makes sense.  

Dumb bastard city shouldn't have agreed to this kind of bullshit.  Probably happened in the 90's when all these fuckers were going nuts.

If that is how it went down, they should definitely have to honor the agreement.
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Dos Equis on November 12, 2012, 02:02:41 PM
 :-\


Papa John's CEO John Schnatter: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours to be cut
•By: Jessica Lipscomb, naplesnews.com

Just after Barack Obama earned a second term in the White House, Papa John's founder and CEO John Schnatter said the president's signature health-care reform law would increase his business costs and possibly result in employees' hours being cut.

Schnatter, a part-time Naples, Fla., resident, made the comments Wednesday night inside a small auditorium at Edison State College's Collier County campus. In August, he made national headlines after telling shareholders the Affordable Care Act -- commonly known as Obamacare -- would result in a 10- to 14-cent increase for customers buying a pizza.

"I got in a bunch of trouble for this," he told the students. "That's what you do, is you pass on costs. Unfortunately, I don't think people know what they're going to pay for this."

Schnatter, a Mitt Romney supporter and fundraiser, said he was not "pro or against" the reform law but likened the government's involvement in health care to its operation of the U.S. Postal Service, saying "the worst entity in the world for running the thing is the government."

About a third of Papa John's employees are covered by the company's health insurance plan, although Schnatter said he has always wanted 100 percent of them on the plan. The rising costs of health insurance, he said, have been a deterrent.

"The good news is 100 percent of the population is going to have health insurance. We're all going to pay for it," he said, estimating the new law would cost the business $5 million to $8 million annually.

Under the Affordable Care Act, full-time employees -- those working 30 hours or more per week -- would have to be provided with insurance at companies with more than 50 workers. Schnatter said it was likely that some franchise owners would reduce employees' hours in order to avoid having to cover them.

"That's probably what's going to happen," he said. "It's common sense. That's what I call lose-lose."

Other than his comments on health care, Schnatter largely steered clear of politics. The 50-year-old said future entrepreneurs need to marry talent and passion in their endeavors, his being business-savvy and a love of pizza.

"I don't consider this work," he said. "I wake up thinking about Papa John's and I go to bed thinking about Papa John's."

He credited the business' success to having a strong team of people and a quality product, repeating his commercial's catchphrase -- "Better ingredients, better pizza, Papa John's" -- several times.

Schnatter answered questions for about 45 minutes before leaving to participate in a telethon with the University of Kentucky basketball team to raise money for Hurricane Sandy victims. He told students he hopes to present the American Red Cross with a $1 million check.

http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/political/papa-johns-ceo-john-schnatter-obamacare-likely-to-raise-costs-employees-hours-to-be-cut
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on November 13, 2012, 07:50:41 AM
:-\


Papa John's CEO John Schnatter: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours to be cut
•By: Jessica Lipscomb, naplesnews.com

Just after Barack Obama earned a second term in the White House, Papa John's founder and CEO John Schnatter said the president's signature health-care reform law would increase his business costs and possibly result in employees' hours being cut.

Schnatter, a part-time Naples, Fla., resident, made the comments Wednesday night inside a small auditorium at Edison State College's Collier County campus. In August, he made national headlines after telling shareholders the Affordable Care Act -- commonly known as Obamacare -- would result in a 10- to 14-cent increase for customers buying a pizza.

"I got in a bunch of trouble for this," he told the students. "That's what you do, is you pass on costs. Unfortunately, I don't think people know what they're going to pay for this."

Schnatter, a Mitt Romney supporter and fundraiser, said he was not "pro or against" the reform law but likened the government's involvement in health care to its operation of the U.S. Postal Service, saying "the worst entity in the world for running the thing is the government."

About a third of Papa John's employees are covered by the company's health insurance plan, although Schnatter said he has always wanted 100 percent of them on the plan. The rising costs of health insurance, he said, have been a deterrent.

"The good news is 100 percent of the population is going to have health insurance. We're all going to pay for it," he said, estimating the new law would cost the business $5 million to $8 million annually.

Under the Affordable Care Act, full-time employees -- those working 30 hours or more per week -- would have to be provided with insurance at companies with more than 50 workers. Schnatter said it was likely that some franchise owners would reduce employees' hours in order to avoid having to cover them.

"That's probably what's going to happen," he said. "It's common sense. That's what I call lose-lose."

Other than his comments on health care, Schnatter largely steered clear of politics. The 50-year-old said future entrepreneurs need to marry talent and passion in their endeavors, his being business-savvy and a love of pizza.

"I don't consider this work," he said. "I wake up thinking about Papa John's and I go to bed thinking about Papa John's."

He credited the business' success to having a strong team of people and a quality product, repeating his commercial's catchphrase -- "Better ingredients, better pizza, Papa John's" -- several times.

Schnatter answered questions for about 45 minutes before leaving to participate in a telethon with the University of Kentucky basketball team to raise money for Hurricane Sandy victims. He told students he hopes to present the American Red Cross with a $1 million check.

http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/political/papa-johns-ceo-john-schnatter-obamacare-likely-to-raise-costs-employees-hours-to-be-cut



Its really not smart of him to mix politics with business.  He could end up losing a shitload of business
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: The Enigma on November 13, 2012, 08:10:33 AM
I hope this doesn't become a trend.   :-\

Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Posted: 11/08/2012 1:05 pm EST Updated: 11/08/2012 1:49 pm EST

One Las Vegas CEO reportedly had an extreme reaction to President Obama's reelection.

“David,” whose full name and company have yet to be disclosed, told radio host Kevin Wall on 100.5 KXNT that he fired 22 of his 114 employees as a direct result of Obama’s win, arguing that “elections have consequences” and that he needs “to survive.” “David” refused to identify himself for “obvious reasons,” according to the radio station.

“I had to lay off 22 people today to make sure that my business is gonna thrive and I’m gonna be around for years to come,” the CEO said. “I have to build up that nest egg now for the taxes and regulations that are coming my way.”

"David's" identity and his story have yet to be verified, but if it's true, the CEO would be among the first, if not the first outright, to fire workers as a direct result of Obama's reelection, a threat made many times before the presidential election. The new political push by employers was the result of both the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision, which made such declarations legal, and a June conference call in which Mitt Romney urged employers to tell their workers how they voted.

The company head, who described his workers as “mostly Hispanic,” said that he warned them about a month ago that if Obama won reelection, provisions like Obamacare and extra payroll taxes would force him to make certain considerations in order to keep his business running. Instead of firing workers, other companies, like Papa John's, said they would pass on the costs of Obamacare to consumers.

“David” is one of many CEOs that warned employees of consequences if Obama won reelection. Billionaire and Westgate Resort head David Siegel emailed a memo to his employees in the lead up to the election warning them to vote for Romney or else. But in the wake of Obama’s win, Siegel is saying that he gave all of his employees raises.

Some companies, like Wynn resorts, went even further by giving their employees voter guides. Peter Bos, CEO of real estate developer Legendary Inc., attached his filled-out election ballot, which included a vote for Romney, to his employees paychecks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/08/david-las-vegas-ceo-fired-workers_n_2093369.html

22 workers fired?

2,000,000 construction workers were fired following the Bush- Cheney housing scheme/bust

Do the math.





Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: War-Horse on November 13, 2012, 08:46:07 AM
22 workers fired?

2,000,000 construction workers were fired following the Bush- Cheney housing scheme/bust

Do the math.








I was one of them and the 5 guys i had working. Im on hold and ready to go soon.  Seeing some construction starting again. 8)
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: OzmO on November 13, 2012, 08:47:41 AM
22 workers fired?

2,000,000 construction workers were fired following the Bush- Cheney housing scheme/bust

Do the math.


That was everyone's housing scheme, not just Bush and Cheney.
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: War-Horse on November 13, 2012, 08:50:13 AM
That was everyone's housing scheme, not just Bush and Cheney.


True. Alot of people used their homes as an ATM.......But the banks were relentless with their mailers.  I was getting offers everyday..lol
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Dos Equis on November 13, 2012, 11:19:22 AM
Group turns to social media to rally support for Papa John's amid liberal backlash
Published November 12, 2012
FoxNews.com

Daniel Wetter is just 16 years old, but his plan to support pizza chain Papa John’s amid a backlash of liberal criticism is no pie-in-the-sky idea.

Wetter is part of an upstart group called Rebooting America that is proposing that Friday be a national day of appreciation for the pizza chain, whose chief executive officer is being attacked for saying employees’ hours might be cut to cover the cost of implementing their health insurance under ObamaCare.

The conservative group has hatched a social media-based campaign that centers on encouraging people to buy a pizza pie at a Papa John’s store, taking a photo of the outing and then posting it on a Facebook page or tweeting it.

“We just wanted to stand with Papa John’s because it is under attack,” said Wetter, who volunteered with Mitt Romney's campaign and credits fellow conservative activist Justen Charters with coming up with the idea.

Wetter said Monday the Facebook appreciation page went up Sunday night and almost immediately got 1,000 supporters.

Papa John's founder and CEO John H. Schnatter said after Election Day that franchise owners might have to cut hours because the health care law requires companies with more than 50 employees to provide insurance for those working at least 30 hours.  He also estimated the law will cost the company $5 million to $8 million more annually.

Other companies, such as Olive Garden and Applebee’s, also have faced criticism and threats of boycotts for voicing similar concerns.

Supporters of the Affordable Care Act more recently pounced on comments by New York-area Applebee's franchisee Zane Tankel, who told Fox Business that cost increases related to implementing ObamaCare might force a halt to expansion and additional hiring. Critics appear to have interpreted Tankel’s comments to mean he will lay off employees as a result of the changes.

Wetter said he hopes the activism will move beyond the appreciation day for Papa John's.

“This is not just about Friday or one group,” said Wetter, adding he already was a fan of Papa John’s. “I just had some pizza yesterday, and I’m going to have some more Friday.”

The other elements of the plan call for supporters to “like" Papa John's Facebook page and buy an extra pizza Friday “to share with someone that is struggling right now,” such as a neighbor who lost a job.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/12/teen-rallies-social-media-effort-to-support-papa-john-others-amid-liberal/?test=latestnews
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Dos Equis on November 15, 2012, 11:33:34 AM
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Florida restaurateur to impose surcharge for ObamaCare
By Joshua Rhett Miller
Published November 15, 2012
FoxNews.com

A Florida restaurateur who operates roughly 40 Denny’s locations and five Hurricane Grill & Wings franchises in Florida, Virginia and Georgia intends to add a 5 percent surcharge to customers’ bills to offset costs from ObamaCare beginning in January 2014 when the Affordable Care Act is fully implemented.

“People are trying to find ways to avoid the penalties and to avoid having to pay for ObamaCare,” John Metz told FoxNews.com. “Everyone’s looking for a way to not have to provide insurance for their employees. It’s essentially a huge tax on all us business people.”

To further offset the costs, Metz, who oversees roughly 1,200 employees as president and CEO of RREMC Restaurants, LLC, said he also will slash most of the staff's time to fewer than 30 hours per week. That change will be announced to employees next month, he said.

“I want to explain it to everybody, to let them know what’s coming down the pike,” he said. “We like to keep our employees informed.”

The changes will force some front-of-the-house employees to look for second jobs, Metz said, but he simply cannot afford the penalties associated with ObamaCare.

“I have a choice: try to live within the rules, or go out of business.”
- John Metz, Florida restaurateur

“It’s a great concept,” he said. “We want to have everyone insured. The problem is, who is going to pay for it and how are we going to accomplish this?”

Under the current law, employers with more than 50 full-time (or equivalent) workers will be charged a penalty for the number of employees exceeding 30 full-time staffers who are not covered. With an average of 35 full-time employees per location, Metz said the $2,000 penalty would total roughly $70,000 per restaurant. Current coverage costs Metz up to $6,000 annually per full-time employee, he said. He currently provides coverage to about 250 employees.

“It’s going to be a big issue for all of us — for my employees and for me,” said Metz, who has been in the industry since 1975. “The ones that are working more than 28 hours, they’re going to act as if I’m cutting their hours and they’ll have to find another job.”

At Denny’s restaurants operated by Metz, the average check is $9, he said, meaning the ObamaCare surcharge if implemented would be 45 cents on that bill. At Hurricane Grill & Wings locations, where the average bill is $14.50, the surcharge would total 72 cents.

Metz said he believes the entire restaurant industry — even high-end locations — will ultimately embrace the idea.

“That is what I foresee and that is the easier, least painful way to deal with these added costs,” he said. “In a true playing field, everybody will impose this, from McDonald’s to Denny’s to even maybe the fine dining restaurants in order to have the funds to be able to pay for either insurance or the penalty for not providing insurance to their employees.”

Metz also is urging his employees to consider contacting their local elected officials in hopes of finding another solution to offset his looming increased costs.

“It’s never good news, but it is what it is,” Metz said of increasing customers’ checks. “We really should look for a better or different way to pay for [ObamaCare]. I think what we’re going to ultimately see here is a European-type system where we have a value added tax or a national sales tax.”

Metz continued: “I have a choice: try to live within the rules, or go out of business.”

In a statement to FoxNews.com, the National Restaurant Association said it’s “premature” to assess precisely how the health care law will affect individual businesses.

“We have warned for some time that the mechanics of the health care law are very difficult for the restaurant industry, which is a low-margin industry that works to keep costs down in order to provide value to customers,” said Scott DeFife, executive vice president of policy and government affairs for the National Restaurant Association. “All costs, from gas and commodities to labor and insurance, eventually impact the price on the menu. It is important that operators get very familiar with the provisions of the law and start planning for its implementation; however, it’s premature to make a specific assessment of exactly how the law will affect any individual business because there are so many details that are unknown.”

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/15/florida-restaurateur-to-impose-surcharge-for-obamacare/
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: GigantorX on November 15, 2012, 03:44:42 PM
i think 100k per year - to pick up trash all day - might actually be worth it.

physically intense work in very tough/smelly circumstances.

It isn't physically intense work, not for the most part.

More places have a driver and a passenger that drive a garbage truck that has it's own arm that picks up special garbage cans and dumps them into the truck. The 2nd garbageman is there for larger things or to help at times.

This ain't 1962, holmes.
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: OzmO on November 15, 2012, 08:44:11 PM
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Florida restaurateur to impose surcharge for ObamaCare
By Joshua Rhett Miller
Published November 15, 2012
FoxNews.com

A Florida restaurateur who operates roughly 40 Denny’s locations and five Hurricane Grill & Wings franchises in Florida, Virginia and Georgia intends to add a 5 percent surcharge to customers’ bills to offset costs from ObamaCare beginning in January 2014 when the Affordable Care Act is fully implemented.

“People are trying to find ways to avoid the penalties and to avoid having to pay for ObamaCare,” John Metz told FoxNews.com. “Everyone’s looking for a way to not have to provide insurance for their employees. It’s essentially a huge tax on all us business people.”

To further offset the costs, Metz, who oversees roughly 1,200 employees as president and CEO of RREMC Restaurants, LLC, said he also will slash most of the staff's time to fewer than 30 hours per week. That change will be announced to employees next month, he said.

“I want to explain it to everybody, to let them know what’s coming down the pike,” he said. “We like to keep our employees informed.”

The changes will force some front-of-the-house employees to look for second jobs, Metz said, but he simply cannot afford the penalties associated with ObamaCare.

“I have a choice: try to live within the rules, or go out of business.”
- John Metz, Florida restaurateur

“It’s a great concept,” he said. “We want to have everyone insured. The problem is, who is going to pay for it and how are we going to accomplish this?”

Under the current law, employers with more than 50 full-time (or equivalent) workers will be charged a penalty for the number of employees exceeding 30 full-time staffers who are not covered. With an average of 35 full-time employees per location, Metz said the $2,000 penalty would total roughly $70,000 per restaurant. Current coverage costs Metz up to $6,000 annually per full-time employee, he said. He currently provides coverage to about 250 employees.

“It’s going to be a big issue for all of us — for my employees and for me,” said Metz, who has been in the industry since 1975. “The ones that are working more than 28 hours, they’re going to act as if I’m cutting their hours and they’ll have to find another job.”

At Denny’s restaurants operated by Metz, the average check is $9, he said, meaning the ObamaCare surcharge if implemented would be 45 cents on that bill. At Hurricane Grill & Wings locations, where the average bill is $14.50, the surcharge would total 72 cents.

Metz said he believes the entire restaurant industry — even high-end locations — will ultimately embrace the idea.

“That is what I foresee and that is the easier, least painful way to deal with these added costs,” he said. “In a true playing field, everybody will impose this, from McDonald’s to Denny’s to even maybe the fine dining restaurants in order to have the funds to be able to pay for either insurance or the penalty for not providing insurance to their employees.”

Metz also is urging his employees to consider contacting their local elected officials in hopes of finding another solution to offset his looming increased costs.

“It’s never good news, but it is what it is,” Metz said of increasing customers’ checks. “We really should look for a better or different way to pay for [ObamaCare]. I think what we’re going to ultimately see here is a European-type system where we have a value added tax or a national sales tax.”

Metz continued: “I have a choice: try to live within the rules, or go out of business.”

In a statement to FoxNews.com, the National Restaurant Association said it’s “premature” to assess precisely how the health care law will affect individual businesses.

“We have warned for some time that the mechanics of the health care law are very difficult for the restaurant industry, which is a low-margin industry that works to keep costs down in order to provide value to customers,” said Scott DeFife, executive vice president of policy and government affairs for the National Restaurant Association. “All costs, from gas and commodities to labor and insurance, eventually impact the price on the menu. It is important that operators get very familiar with the provisions of the law and start planning for its implementation; however, it’s premature to make a specific assessment of exactly how the law will affect any individual business because there are so many details that are unknown.”

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/15/florida-restaurateur-to-impose-surcharge-for-obamacare/

Kind of dumb and dangerous fr business. This makes it look like a cheap political statement. 

 Just quitely raise the cost of food.

Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: 240 is Back on November 15, 2012, 08:48:54 PM
Wetter is part of an upstart group called Rebooting America that is proposing that Friday be a national day of appreciation for the pizza chain, whose chief executive officer is being attacked for saying employees’ hours might be cut to cover the cost of implementing their health insurance under ObamaCare.

LOL @ Papa John trying to use the Chik-Fila formula ;)
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: 240 is Back on November 15, 2012, 08:49:56 PM
This ain't 1962, holmes.

if it was 1962, we would have a dashing young dem president in the white house, and the repubs would be reeling from running an unprepared douchebag in the last election.

oh, wait, that's kinda where we are now?
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Gregzs on November 15, 2012, 09:56:50 PM
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Papa John's CEO John Schnatter: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours to be cut
•By: Jessica Lipscomb, naplesnews.com

Just after Barack Obama earned a second term in the White House, Papa John's founder and CEO John Schnatter said the president's signature health-care reform law would increase his business costs and possibly result in employees' hours being cut.

Schnatter, a part-time Naples, Fla., resident, made the comments Wednesday night inside a small auditorium at Edison State College's Collier County campus. In August, he made national headlines after telling shareholders the Affordable Care Act -- commonly known as Obamacare -- would result in a 10- to 14-cent increase for customers buying a pizza.

"I got in a bunch of trouble for this," he told the students. "That's what you do, is you pass on costs. Unfortunately, I don't think people know what they're going to pay for this."

Schnatter, a Mitt Romney supporter and fundraiser, said he was not "pro or against" the reform law but likened the government's involvement in health care to its operation of the U.S. Postal Service, saying "the worst entity in the world for running the thing is the government."

About a third of Papa John's employees are covered by the company's health insurance plan, although Schnatter said he has always wanted 100 percent of them on the plan. The rising costs of health insurance, he said, have been a deterrent.

"The good news is 100 percent of the population is going to have health insurance. We're all going to pay for it," he said, estimating the new law would cost the business $5 million to $8 million annually.

Under the Affordable Care Act, full-time employees -- those working 30 hours or more per week -- would have to be provided with insurance at companies with more than 50 workers. Schnatter said it was likely that some franchise owners would reduce employees' hours in order to avoid having to cover them.

"That's probably what's going to happen," he said. "It's common sense. That's what I call lose-lose."

Other than his comments on health care, Schnatter largely steered clear of politics. The 50-year-old said future entrepreneurs need to marry talent and passion in their endeavors, his being business-savvy and a love of pizza.

"I don't consider this work," he said. "I wake up thinking about Papa John's and I go to bed thinking about Papa John's."

He credited the business' success to having a strong team of people and a quality product, repeating his commercial's catchphrase -- "Better ingredients, better pizza, Papa John's" -- several times.

Schnatter answered questions for about 45 minutes before leaving to participate in a telethon with the University of Kentucky basketball team to raise money for Hurricane Sandy victims. He told students he hopes to present the American Red Cross with a $1 million check.

http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/political/papa-johns-ceo-john-schnatter-obamacare-likely-to-raise-costs-employees-hours-to-be-cut

You did see this thread right? It is more like a cost of 5 cents for OCare:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=447964.0
Title: Re: Las Vegas CEO Reportedly Fired 22 Workers Because Of Obama's Reelection
Post by: Roger Bacon on November 16, 2012, 01:32:24 AM
LOL @ Papa John trying to use the Chik-Fila formula ;)

you're definitely a man that uses his brain