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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk => Natural Bodybuilding => Topic started by: Dragon on September 15, 2007, 08:07:50 AM
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hi bros i'm a lifetime natural(obviously), love training, and i havethe uttmost respect forthe natural trainers here
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where's the pic?
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I see three classic X frames
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Looking diesl bro. How old?
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Don't look natural, but I guess that'd be a compliment if u're natural ;) Good build either way.
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This guy looks super young, like early 20's and big and ripped; either he is a genetic freak or he is not natural; I'm betting on the latter.
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hi bros thanks for the compliments,i'm 25yrs old
i can't believe U guys think i 'juice'
this is Korea, i havn't even seen a 'prohormone '(extemely hard to get unless you go overseas)except
"animal stak2"
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hi bros thanks for the compliments,i'm 25yrs old
i can't believe U guys think i 'juice'
this is Korea, i havn't even seen a 'prohormone '(extemely hard to get unless you go overseas)except
"animal stak2"
Bullshit; Korea is a shitehole it's true (I live here so I know) but there are plenty of Koreans using syringes. I don't know what part of Korea you are living in.... ::)
And what's up with your government's fucked up policies on getting supplements from the net...
In any event you must be a genetic freak....or NOT.... ::)
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most probably a troll account, how do these guys have so much time in thier hands ???
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i live in Seoul, LOL
yes some professional korean bodybuilders use prohormones and steroids(how they buy them ? no idea) and no, you can buy supplements off-line at Shinchon
well, i train at hanguk univ. of foreign studies(because it's free there) so maybe you can come and train for free and see for yourself (sorry almostno machines only powerrack and barbells...)
since you live in korea, you probably know that it's impossible to get steroids on the internet
or at the gym, pharmacy . maybe you live in north korea? ???
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i live in Seoul, LOL
yes some professional korean bodybuilders use prohormones and steroids(how they buy them ? no idea) and no, you can buy supplements off-line at Shinchon
well, i train at hanguk univ. of foreign studies(because it's free there) so maybe you can come and train for free and see for yourself (sorry almostno machines only powerrack and barbells...)
since you live in korea, you probably know that it's impossible to get steroids on the internet
or at the gym, pharmacy . maybe you live in north korea? ???
lol ignore those haters dude.. u look extremely good ;) good luck bro
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lol ignore those haters dude.. u look extremely good ;) good luck bro
Not hate, just requesting some honesty...look at little Hercules; he's been training for years more than this guy and yet this guy claims to be all natural. Well, maybe he is; but having that size and being so cut he would have to have excellent genetics...
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i live in Seoul, LOL
yes some professional korean bodybuilders use prohormones and steroids(how they buy them ? no idea) and no, you can buy supplements off-line at Shinchon
well, i train at hanguk univ. of foreign studies(because it's free there) so maybe you can come and train for free and see for yourself (sorry almostno machines only powerrack and barbells...)
since you live in korea, you probably know that it's impossible to get steroids on the internet
or at the gym, pharmacy . maybe you live in north korea? ???
In Seoul but I'm in Ulsan so that doesn't work for me; whatever you look good whether you juice or not; either way I don't care...
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dragon... how long u been training bro? i bet ur eating clean thoughout d year ;D
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dragon... how long u been training bro? i bet ur eating clean thoughout d year ;D
Yeah, I would like to know his diet too...
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im been eating clean for d past 1 month + and training hard as well.. wonder how long its gonna take me to see my abs ;)
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thanks forthe compliments brothers
i trained bodybuilding style for 5 years, before that i trained judo for a long long time
yes i eat clean pretty much the whole year (ultra-clean starting from march~september)
6am: 6eggwhites penutbutter bread
9am: protein powder
12am: fish veggies
3pm: chicken breasts+rice
6pm:proteinpowder
9pm:steak+rice
12pm:chicken breasts+rice
i don't count sets(maybe 20~ 40? ???/per bodypart)only do squats.benchpress,millitary press,barbell rows,deadlifts,etc
i think that the programs in FLEX and M&F are bullsh@t and they are for 'juicing' lifters(written by 'juicers' too right?)
naturals will havea hard time growing on "4setsbench press+4sets incline press+4sets cablecross overs"
( just my opinion ok?)
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seriously man.. i feel 4 sets each is nonsence..
all i do for chest is
2 sets of incline dumbell press
2 sets of wide grip dips
2 sets of decline barbell press
7 reps each.. i do all these with max weight i could carry.. i feel this is more thn enuf for chest.. wht u guys say?
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thanks forthe compliments brothers
i trained bodybuilding style for 5 years, before that i trained judo for a long long time
yes i eat clean pretty much the whole year (ultra-clean starting from march~september)
6am: 6eggwhites penutbutter bread
9am: protein powder
12am: fish veggies
3pm: chicken breasts+rice
6pm:proteinpowder
9pm:steak+rice
12pm:chicken breasts+rice
i don't count sets(maybe 20~ 40? ???/per bodypart)only do squats.benchpress,millitary press,barbell rows,deadlifts,etc
i think that the programs in FLEX and M&F are bullsh@t and they are for 'juicing' lifters(written by 'juicers' too right?)
naturals will havea hard time growing on "4setsbench press+4sets incline press+4sets cablecross overs"
( just my opinion ok?)
You stop eating after 12pm?
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Dude lookin good bro! If you are really natural you have built an amazing physique at 25! Just curious what are your stats anyway (ie. height, weight, lifts etc)?
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hi bros i'm a lifetime natural(obviously), love training, and i havethe uttmost respect forthe natural trainers here
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How much cardio do you do?
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looking good, especially if natural
maybe consider entering the mr getbig
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Do I detect steroid acne on his chest? hmmm...
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Do I detect steroid acne on his chest? hmmm...
lol u never give up dude hahahaa
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thanks for the compliments!
i'm 5foot 7 and went up to 86kg down to 75kg right now
i squat 3plates and a half(on each side) for 8~10 reps
bench press is kinda weak... military press is warmup set for most getbiggers :-[
i do 1~2hours cardio every day
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thanks for the compliments!
i'm 5foot 7 and went up to 86kg down to 75kg right now
i squat 3plates and a half(on each side) for 8~10 reps
bench press is kinda weak... military press is warmup set for most getbiggers :-[
i do 1~2hours cardio every day
Very vague information. Do you mean you previously had 11 excess kilos of body fat and then lost them? 1-2 hours of cardio are a lot; especially in a bulking phase, even if you were cutting 2 hours would suck the muscles off your bones if you were natural. Just admit it, no one is going to think less of you, you still look good...
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whatever bro ::)LOL
thanks anyways
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thanks for the compliments!
i'm 5foot 7 and went up to 86kg down to 75kg right now
i squat 3plates and a half(on each side) for 8~10 reps
bench press is kinda weak... military press is warmup set for most getbiggers :-[
i do 1~2hours cardio every day
You look awesome.
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thts wht im wonder. 1-2 hour per day is too much? :| maybe 2 days per week will do i thk
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in the winter i do almost no cardio
i do 1~2hours cardio around the summer time (starting .. may?june?~september)
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in the winter i do almost no cardio
i do 1~2hours cardio around the summer time (starting .. may?june?~september)
So presumably you have that much more body fat in the winter...
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Great physique! Pics look very good. How about some leg shots, and a back double biceps pic???
btw, its not hard to believe you are natural. look at jrod, that guy looks amazing, and is also natural. people seem to think that if you are ripped, then you must take steroids. ::)
i dont think people even realize what is attainable naturally. most people never see any results themselves, so they assume anyone who has good results must be taking drugs...
thankyou simplyhuge!
dragon you're looking great bro. do you compete? are there many natural comps in korea?
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Hey -you look great-how intense is the cardio you do since it is so long?
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Great physique! Pics look very good. How about some leg shots, and a back double biceps pic???
btw, its not hard to believe you are natural. look at jrod, that guy looks amazing, and is also natural. people seem to think that if you are ripped, then you must take steroids. ::)
i dont think people even realize what is attainable naturally. most people never see any results themselves, so they assume anyone who has good results must be taking drugs...
WELL SAID BRO! ;D
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thanks bros!
Freddy, you must be Jrod?if you are; your a true inspiration to me; you and the other natural competiters truly represent this sport and what it's all about:80%training 20%nutrition 0%drugs ,,, and in korea there are no true natty shows,,,
i do cardio mod~high intensity,,, i think people worry too much that there muscle will 'melt away'
if you eat enough complex carbs your muscle won't 'melt away' ; i also think that '0 carbs high protein diet' or 'ifbb pro somebody eats
20carbs a day precontest' etc etc won't work for a natural because THEN muscle really melts away ( just my opinion ok?)
SimplyHuge:i don't have the pics you requested for now but i do have a shitty back shot :-[
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thanks bros!
Freddy, you must be Jrod?if you are; your a true inspiration to me; you and the other natural competiters truly represent this sport and what it's all about:80%training 20%nutrition 0%drugs
i do cardio mod~high intensity,,, i think people worry too much that there muscle will 'melt away'
if you eat enough complex carbs your muscle won't 'melt away' ; i also think that '0 carbs high protein diet' or 'ifbb pro somebody eats
20carbs a day precontest' etc etc won't work for a natural because THEN muscle really melts away ( just my opinion ok?)
SimplyHuge:i don't have the pics you requested for now but i do have a shitty back shot :-[
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nope, i'm definitely not jrod bud.
btw, its not hard to believe you are natural. look at jrod, that guy looks amazing, and is also natural. people seem to think that if you are ripped, then you must take steroids. ::)
i dont think people even realize what is attainable naturally. most people never see any results themselves, so they assume anyone who has good results must be taking drugs...
thats what the thank you was for.. i was just about to say the same thing myself.. thats all.
but i do compete.. from australia though.
p.s. thats one PEELED back!!
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sounds like a troll account to me...
you may be natural, but i do not care either way
if you are a competitor (and the diet regimen that you describe makes me think that you must be) then PM Ron to get Blue Stars
whether you are natural or notmeans nothing to me... although claiming you are a 'supernatural' would make some people wonder.
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lol i don't compete as i have no intent on standing on stage and 'pawning' myself against juicers
and i sure didn't know posting pics turns someone into a 'attention whore' (first time on a bbing board) LOL
and i sure damn am a natural.it's getting fu@king irritating now trying to convince everyone
i don't give a sh$t now, think what you want what do i have to prove
one last advice : 90% of naturals are fat and don't do cardio enough thinking 'i'm bulking, my muscle will melt away, dieting alone will make me shredded etcetc' well plz wake up,, most natural competitors do
tons tons of cardio,, i dieted for 5~6 months straight,,, so do most natural competitors
of course we could all diet ultrahard for 12 weeks like the muscletech superstars and lose tons of weight but where would that loss come from
the people who think i juice LOL just hilarious and just shows what low standards you have and how pathetic you are LOL
my pathetic physique looks like a juicer? LOL i'm 5'7 75kg for fu%ks sake i;m super-ripped that's why i look good ok?
just shutup;; go diet for christs sake;; stop your useless bulking;; diet for 5~6 months (really slowly)
and do cardio 1~2hours;;and eat big ;; and don't even miss a fu#king meal for 5~6 months
i'm out
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lol i don't compete as i have no intent on standing on stage and 'pawning' myself against juicers
and i sure didn't know posting pics turns someone into a 'attention whore' (first time on a bbing board) LOL
and i sure damn am a natural.it's getting fu@king irritating now trying to convince everyone
i don't give a sh$t now, think what you want what do i have to prove
one last advice : 90% of naturals are fat and don't do cardio enough thinking 'i'm bulking, my muscle will melt away, dieting alone will make me shredded etcetc' well plz wake up,, most natural competitors do
tons tons of cardio,, i dieted for 5~6 months straight,,, so do most natural competitors
of course we could all diet ultrahard for 12 weeks like the muscletech superstars and lose tons of weight but where would that loss come from
the people who think i juice LOL just hilarious and just shows what low standards you have and how pathetic you are LOL
my pathetic physique looks like a juicer? LOL i'm 5'7 75kg for fu%ks sake i;m super-ripped that's why i look good ok?
just shutup;; go diet for christs sake;; stop your useless bulking;; diet for 5~6 months (really slowly)
and do cardio 1~2hours;;and eat big ;; and don't even miss a fu#king meal for 5~6 months
i'm out
A true testament to Hanguk culture.... ::)
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yo Dragon dont get too emotional bro..
seriously i agree with you.. therez no need to argue to prove urself natural..
as far as im concern.. ur doin good..
a role model thts it..
just accept those willing to take ur point of view and ignore the haters..
haters are alwiz loosers.. :) good luck bro
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dudes natty...just low bf. and he looks awesome.....good work Dragon!
I love how someone comes on here, posts a natty pic, then everyone claims hes a liar and juiced. People need to wake up and realize its possible to get a great build naturally.
to all those who do this---don't confuse YOUR laziness and lack of willpower with comments of "dudes on...or juiced etc etc....GET YOUR ASS UP, PUT DOWN THE TWINKIES, GET TO THE GYM, TRAIN HARD AND CONSISTENT, AND STFU
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Dude don't pay attention to the haters. You're doing some good things so keep up the good work.
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Do you feel 1 hr cardio is minimum for getting ripped?
I guess my 30 min -45 cardio wont do haha
Before or after weights?
Thx
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thanks bros
i'm probably 7~8% bf
i only used caffeine. i think that 'fat burners' are a waste of money
cardio for 30~45minutes is great! and i did my cardio seperately. but if you want to do them together
of course after weights (just my opinion)
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if u are natural, you have extremely good genetics! :o
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thanks bros
i'm probably 7~8% bf
i only used caffeine. i think that 'fat burners' are a waste of money
cardio for 30~45minutes is great! and i did my cardio seperately. but if you want to do them together
of course after weights (just my opinion)
how often u train weights bro? how many days? and how long?
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good genetics hm... i think i have wide shoulders and a small waist thats it
most naturals have a small waist anyway .. its just that people are fat so you can;t see them thats all
for cutting: i train 6days/week and 2hours a session so i end up training bodyparts 2 times a week except lsometimes legs (heavyday,lightday)
i eat alot soi i hvae to train even longer to cut
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Looking jacked man. Good work. Excuse me if I missed in between all the hater posts but how much do you weight?
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Looking awesome Dragon! What is your weekly training split/routine?? Do you do high or low reps?
Keep up the great work!!
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Another supernatural genetic freak like gustavo badell and michael lockett!!
I bet you are 280 pounds offseason! (considering you lose at least 20 pounds when cutting natural)
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whats up with all the hate? I don't think it is too far fetched that he is natural. He does seem to have good work ethic and a good diet, and I think someone with good genetics could achieve that kind of physique when you put it all together.
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thanks bros
my training split is now:
monday /chest+back supersets
tuesday /legs+hams supersets
wednesday /shoulders arms supersets
repeat...than rest on sunday.
on the first cycle i do really heavy low reps... than second time around light weight
i love this split its arnold style
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how bout ur abs? how often u train them?
some say u shouldnt train chest twice a week.. wht u say?
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thanks bros
my training split is now:
monday /chest+back supersets
tuesday /legs+hams supersets
wednesday /shoulders arms supersets
repeat...than rest on sunday.
on the first cycle i do really heavy low reps... than second time around light weight
i love this split its arnold style
6 days a week; cut back on the training, make it 3 or 4 days a week and you will make even better progress...
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Looking fantastic mate, well done :).
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thanks bro
i used to train abs like crazy for hours when i trained judo for but nowdays almost none
you can train chest 2 times just don;t go heavy both times (my opinion)
and i love training so much its hard to cut back :( maybe when i get older...
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thanks bro
i used to train abs like crazy for hours when i trained judo for but nowdays almost none
you can train chest 2 times just don;t go heavy both times (my opinion)
and i love training so much its hard to cut back :( maybe when i get older...
IF you are natural the fact is that 6 times a week is too much, even with superior genetics..give yourself 2 more rest days and your results will increase!
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IF you are natural the fact is that 6 times a week is too much, even with superior genetics..give yourself 2 more rest days and your results will increase!
definitely, i've gotten my best results from lifting 4 times a week, 1 hour or less each session, hard, heavy and intense
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IF you are natural the fact is that 6 times a week is too much, even with superior genetics..give yourself 2 more rest days and your results will increase!
how often u guys train ur chest? once or twice a week?
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how often u guys train ur chest? once or twice a week?
Everything just once, bacl, chest, shoulders, legs, etc....though it should seem obvious, any training puts stress on the entire body, not just the body part...that is why recovery is so important. Naturals should never train more than 3 to 4 times a week, unless for shock training such as a very temporary overtraining, accompanied by 10 to 14 days of total rest (except cardio)...
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i train 5 days a week
1st day chest , triceps n abs
2nd day back traps n abs
3rd day rest
4th day shoulders , biceps and abs
5th legs and abs
wht u say?
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i train 5 days a week
1st day chest , triceps n abs
2nd day back traps n abs
3rd day rest
4th day shoulders , biceps and abs
5th legs and abs
wht u say?
I say too much; how many sets and reps?
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i train 5 days a week
1st day chest , triceps n abs
2nd day back traps n abs
3rd day rest
4th day shoulders , biceps and abs
5th legs and abs
wht u say?
that looks like only 4 days a week
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that looks like only 4 days a week
repeating cycle I assume, with weekends off.
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I say too much; how many sets and reps?
my sets n reps are not many bro.. here u go. chest for example
1 set of barbell bench press = low weight, just for warm up
2 sets of incline dumbell press - 7 reps max
2 sets of weighted dips - 7 reps max
2 sets of decline barbell press - 7 reps max
wht u say?
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You look great bro. Don't pay the haters any attention.
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You look great bro. Don't pay the haters any attention.
hi bro you look incredible yourself, natural competitors have my uttmost respect
good luck on your next shows!
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Good build, natty or not. Keep up the good work. Your physique is better than mosts here.
Props.
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Good build, natty or not. Keep up the good work. Your physique is better than mosts here.
Props.
Damn that avatar is bangin' !!!
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interesting...How does one have such a "fat" face while carrying an almost unnatural level of bodyfat?
But none the less a great Physique.. :)
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thanks bros
and i'll try to keep my face straight next time so it dont look fat!
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thanks bros
and i'll try to keep my face straight next time so it dont look fat!
hahahahaha... ;D
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Looking great, Dragon
Tiny waist, good conditioning and full muscle bellies
Any leg pics?
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thanks bro!
i'll try to get a leg shot sometime soon!
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You look great! please tell us what your diet is? you mentioned good amount of complex carbs when dieting to keep muscle, i think so too! I take 165g complex carbs everyday + 40g carb simple sugar after training on lifting days.
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Hye nice job, fuck the doubter..... Most people use steroids as an easy way out to get a nice body fast, so as soon as they see another jacked up guy, they automatically assume steroids....
i get that all the time too, i had to change my regular doc and when i went for my first physical, he didnt believe i wasnt jucing, he felts my nuts, said they we decent size, he wrote bloodworks and testes my testostrone level and came back slightly higher than normal ( obviously cuz i lift)...
anyway man, anyone who does cardio 1-2 hours a day has enough dedication to stick with his diet and workout day in day out, and you can see the results... fuck the naysayers, take it as a compliment when people assume your jucing, cuz thats the best compliment a natural bodybuilder can get.
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Hye nice job, fuck the doubter..... Most people use steroids as an easy way out to get a nice body fast, so as soon as they see another jacked up guy, they automatically assume steroids....
i get that all the time too, i had to change my regular doc and when i went for my first physical, he didnt believe i wasnt jucing, he felts my nuts, said they we decent size, he wrote bloodworks and testes my testostrone level and came back slightly higher than normal ( obviously cuz i lift)...
anyway man, anyone who does cardio 1-2 hours a day has enough dedication to stick with his diet and workout day in day out, and you can see the results... fuck the naysayers, take it as a compliment when people assume your jucing, cuz thats the best compliment a natural bodybuilder can get.
hahaha wtf ;D
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You look INCREDIBLE. Your a mini Hidetada... Props for your awesome natty physique...tons of potential man.. reading your diet, and the cardio you do, you definately work hard and earned it...
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wow thanks for the kind words. really appreciate it bro.
Bobby, your diet sounds great! and i know this might sound weird but when i cut i eliminate all fast sugars including pre. postworkout shake. Ofcourse i eat a good steak+brown rice meal
after workout but i don't drink the fastcarb shake- only do that when bulking.
and i didnt feel any weaker(than when i drank the postworkout fastcarb shake) and my BF levels seemed to get lower more easily.( just my opinion!)
the reason i did this was :1) just experimented and 2)why drink the fastcarb shake when you surely have a moderate margin of those sugars going to BF( 100% going to muscle is impossible) .. just because your insulin levels are high and your muscles are pumped doesnt guarantee 100% 'only- to- muscle- transport'-especially if your a true natural.
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Maybe you're right, BF might drop faster without it. I have tried in the past to go without fast pwo carbs, but i got kinda flat and when i started taking them again, my muscles got fuller immediately. I noticed a big difference, maybe i have to drop it for that last % though.
btw looking at your pics i would guess you are more like 5% BF, you deffinitely look lower that 7-8%
You are not natural......looks like a zit colony on your chest.
so everyone that has zits juices now ? ::)
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the muscle density/ hardness thickness on this guy is so awesome i too have a hard time believing he s natural, but...i believe him in the end.
Why? because he s as small as i am , he s asian, has very particular genetics and did his best with what he has; thats why he achieved these awesome results. Congrats, and now the challenge is to look like this when ull be 80 y/o ;)
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bobby-i dont think i'm in that 5%yet since my glutes arent shredded :-\ but who needs shredded glutes right? train hard bro!
patrick-i'll wash more better now ::)
frenchfry-yeah i do look really normal with clothes on LOL
my goal at 80y/o is to look like bruce lee !
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bobby-i dont think i'm in that 5%yet since my glutes arent shredded :-\ but who needs shredded glutes right? train hard bro!
patrick-i'll wash more better now ::)
frenchfry-yeah i do look really normal with clothes on LOL
my goal at 80y/o is to look like bruce lee !
haha shredded glutes. Not alot of ppl have that at competition shape, that is very extreme, like 4% and completely dehydrated. No one needs that, personally i don't see the point in pro BBs having it either. You look very low bf in the pics, below 7 for sure.
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I'm suprised that you are so ripped when you eat that much rice (especially at night)
how are your portion sizes?
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amen right there, judging nowdays is really messed up... 44inch waist+shredded glutes are a must to place... really messing up everything including the competitors health
1GofE- i train at evening so eating carbs at night is something i cant do much about,...
but there are research (and from my experience) that say it makes no diffenence as long as
your calories are the same,,
i eat 1~2 bowls (bigger than american version of cup) of brown rice ,, and of course divide it
through out the day, whether it be 1 bowl or 2 depends on the mirror and my workout intensity, etc
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awesome conditioning. 8)
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dragon, just to help if possible, i had bad acne problems too and did a roacutane/acutane treatment for 5 months, and another one for 8 months one year later, in the end it totally solved my young skins problems once for all.
It's really the only way to solve acne once for all so i think you should do it to get rid of that shit thay may ruin your everyday life like it did for mine !
Oh, and by the way, what's your routine for chest?
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thanks AVBG!
frenchfrie, thanks for the advice! i don't have any acne now,, the 3~4brown spots you see in the pics
are acne scars from a long time ago ( animalpak+ZMA = waytoo much zinc = acne on shoulders and chest)
took me a long time to figure that one out LOL
my chest routine always changes but i love this routine :
flatbench flies5sets(i go really heavy on these) + incline barbel press 5sets + flatbench barbell press 5sets +
cablework 5sets
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whoaa 20 sets totally bro? i feel thts massive..
all i do is 2 sets of incline dumbell press 7 reps max
2 sets if weighted dips 8 reps
2 sets of decline barbell press 8 reps
the weights i lift.. is all as light as i could lift more then 5 reps n not more then 8 reps
wht you guys say?
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yes but i have to volume train .. i eat a lot..
you do only 6sets total?? you would be done training in about 10~20 minute tops..!! :-\ :-\ :o :o ???
maybe you train dorian-style : which is awesome too of course
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yes but i have to volume train .. i eat a lot..
you do only 6sets total?? you would be done training in about 10~20 minute tops..!! :-\ :-\ :o :o ???
maybe you train dorian-style : which is awesome too of course
Better hope you never get stranded in the wilderness; with your metabolism you would starve to death after a few days.
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yes but i have to volume train .. i eat a lot..
you do only 6sets total?? you would be done training in about 10~20 minute tops..!! :-\ :-\ :o :o ???
maybe you train dorian-style : which is awesome too of course
hehe 10-20mins... I volume train too, my chest workout takes about an hour. I do like 16 sets, and then i'm not counting the drop-sets. So it's more like 18-22 sets total.
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Where are your leg shots Mr. Yong?
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hehe 10-20mins... I volume train too, my chest workout takes about an hour. I do like 16 sets, and then i'm not counting the drop-sets. So it's more like 18-22 sets total.
ive decided to post legs the next time i cut.
im 9~10% BF right now, really enjoying eating theesedays. Trapezkerl,, i'd love to see your pics.
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ive decided to post legs the next time i cut.
im 9~10% BF right now, really enjoying eating theesedays. Trapezkerl,, i'd love to see your pics.
Why? I look like shit and am honest about it. I didn't parade my body around here for show and tell Mr. Yong, you did. Seems pretty vain to me...
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Why? I look like shit and am honest about it. I didn't parade my body around here for show and tell Mr. Yong, you did. Seems pretty vain to me...
whoa take it easy white man
it ain't that serious ;D
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whoa take it easy white man
it ain't that serious ;D
As pale as you are, I wonder why you are calling me white man, Mr. Yong?
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Spend less on steroids and more on a tanning membership
most retarded post right here :D
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Spend less on steroids and more on a tanning membership
I live in the American Gardens Building on W. 81st Street on the 11th floor. My name is Patrick Bateman. I'm 27 years old. I believe in taking care of myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning, if my face is a little puffy, I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do a thousand now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
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Spend less on steroids and more on a tanning membership
ALERT: ANOTHER FOOL DETECTED!
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dragon do korean girls like muscle in your experience?
the girl who cuts my hair is korean.....hoping to tap it soon
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dragon do korean girls like muscle in your experience?
the girl who cuts my hair is korean.....hoping to tap it soon
hahaha good post, and come on Dragon mate, this is the real question that people need answered ;D.
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no.. korean girls like tall slender justin timberlake-type builds (older women:another story ;D)
but then again, if your'e a caucasian, your chances are UP 300% haha
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Hey Dragon, what's your shot on kimchi??
great build, btw.
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People who scream "natural" the hardest, are a cheat.
::)
and the people who call out fake are lazy with lousy builds.
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no.. korean girls like tall slender justin timberlake-type builds (older women:another story ;D)
but then again, if your'e a caucasian, your chances are UP 300% haha
Korean women are shallow, vacuous, annoying gold diggers....you know it, just admit it.
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Korean women are shallow, vacuous, annoying gold diggers....you know it, just admit it.
yeah, but if you're caucasian, you can score some fine pussy there.
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Donkeykong- i always wonder why our government promotes kimchi
when there are so many other foods to choose from ( i love korean style BBQ ribs)
Trapezkurl- you're absoltely fucking right, 80%of the korean girls i know are gold-diggers.
which also means you'll have a hard time scoring pussy in korea even though your caucasian :D
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Trapezkurl- you're absoltely fucking right, 80%of the korean girls i know are gold-diggers.
which also means you'll have a hard time scoring pussy in korea even though your caucasian :D
Fixed 8).....Just kidding ladies ;D
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Fixed 8).....Just kidding ladies ;D
;D ;D
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Donkeykong- i always wonder why our government promotes kimchi
when there are so many other foods to choose from ( i love korean style BBQ ribs)
Trapezkurl- you're absoltely fucking right, 80%of the korean girls i know are gold-diggers.
which also means you'll have a hard time scoring pussy in korea even though your caucasian :D
korean food in general is great.
nothing against kimchi too, great stuff.
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good frame bro
all need now is to fill the size...
and keep that waist slim
well done!
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All drugs, you are a coward and a cheater.
I feel sorry for you.
lol how do you know, I hope your basing this on facts and not jealousy
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All drugs, you are a coward and a cheater.
I feel sorry for you.
another cry baby lolz
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thanks DBOL, and my obliques get pumped bigtime after squat days :(
Redwine, hows the diet going?
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thanks DBOL, and my obliques get pumped bigtime after squat days :(
Redwine, hows the diet going?
You look great man, don't you see that 99% of these people don't have the smarts and/or willpower that you do so they result to saying you are not natural, makes them feel better for their lack of production.
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thanks DBOL, and my obliques get pumped bigtime after squat days :(
Redwine, hows the diet going?
hey bro supp.. sorry man been busy.. oh bout my diets.. im been on diets from 9th of august..
had my cheat meals only once a week.. every saturdays.. but then.. i tend to loose too much of size.. something really went wrong.. frm XL my tshirts are now in d M size.. IMAGINE! hehehe.. but then when i take off my tshirt it does look good.. but i look almost nothing when im on wit my tshirt.. y is it so? :| so now i planned to have 2 cheat days a week... so its like 2 days on n 1 day off.. wht u think?
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CTmuscle-yeah, their lack of willpower sickens me !!!
redwine-diet down to really low BF(veins showing on chest, shoulders, lower abs) .after you maintain that low BF for a while(couple months), really slowly upper your calories from clean foods, gain 4~5kg, while doing some cardio.
youll see that the 10%BF you have after is way way different quality than 10%BF before you dieted.
1 or 2 cheat meals , thats ok, i'm doing the same these days
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Donkeykong- i always wonder why our government promotes kimchi
when there are so many other foods to choose from ( i love korean style BBQ ribs)
Trapezkurl- you're absoltely fucking right, 80%of the korean girls i know are gold-diggers.
which also means you'll have a hard time scoring pussy in korea even though your caucasian :D
Yes, Korean women are amongst the worst I know. I don't even feel like talking to them....
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Very good work!!!
Well done!!
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Yes, Korean women are amongst the worst I know. I don't even feel like talking to them....
ahahahaha for once i agree
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hi bros i'm a lifetime natural(obviously), love training, and i havethe uttmost respect forthe natural trainers here
You shouldn't have said "obviously". You look great man. Most people would assume you are not natural. Keep up the good work.
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thanks guys, i'm training hard for 'quad sweep' nowdays .probably the hardest thing in the world :'(
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Trapezkurl- you're absoltely fucking right, 80%of the korean girls i know are gold-diggers.
;D
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;D
She's chinese.
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Dragon
Do you has any plan to compete ?(because you still very young)
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Dragon
Do you has any plan to compete ?(because you still very young)
its my dream to compete and place in Mr seoul
but i don't have the knowledge to do so(carb,water manipulating, posing,tanning,etc) -which is why i look up to competitors so much
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lol i don't compete as i have no intent on standing on stage and 'pawning' myself against juicers
and i sure didn't know posting pics turns someone into a 'attention whore' (first time on a bbing board) LOL
and i sure damn am a natural.it's getting fu@king irritating now trying to convince everyone
i don't give a sh$t now, think what you want what do i have to prove
one last advice : 90% of naturals are fat and don't do cardio enough thinking 'i'm bulking, my muscle will melt away, dieting alone will make me shredded etcetc' well plz wake up,, most natural competitors do
tons tons of cardio,, i dieted for 5~6 months straight,,, so do most natural competitors
of course we could all diet ultrahard for 12 weeks like the muscletech superstars and lose tons of weight but where would that loss come from
the people who think i juice LOL just hilarious and just shows what low standards you have and how pathetic you are LOL
my pathetic physique looks like a juicer? LOL i'm 5'7 75kg for fu%ks sake i;m super-ripped that's why i look good ok?
just shutup;; go diet for christs sake;; stop your useless bulking;; diet for 5~6 months (really slowly)
and do cardio 1~2hours;;and eat big ;; and don't even miss a fu#king meal for 5~6 months
i'm out
hey dragon this is a quote from like a couple pages ago...so which is it...the quote says you dont give a shit about it and the last post was the exact opposite...just wondering which it really is? but whatever your probably juicing now or whatever...i dont care just make up your mind...
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hey dragon this is a quote from like a couple pages ago...so which is it...the quote says you dont give a shit about it and the last post was the exact opposite...just wondering which it really is? but whatever your probably juicing now or whatever...i dont care just make up your mind...
so it goes like this: i want to compete but
1. i dont know how to (posing tanning registration water etc )
2. i;ll probably place last or second to last without anabolics
3. i'm still young so no need to hurry
so i'm not competing .
but if i do ( probably wont forever) i'll post pics of my pawned ass and let everyone know
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haha hey man whatever works for you....and im sure its like everything else you need to do it alot to get good at it...im sure nobody just walks in and wins shows...anyways you know what im sayin bro...either way keep up the hard work..
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Great physique man - brilliant for a natural. Props for sharing the pics. :)
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thanks bro
i busted my wrist while benching and cant train for 2weeks >:(
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What do you bench man?
Hope your wrist recovers quickly.
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thanks for the compliments!
i'm 5foot 7 and went up to 86kg down to 75kg right now
i squat 3plates and a half(on each side) for 8~10 reps
bench press is kinda weak... military press is warmup set for most getbiggers :-[
i do 1~2hours cardio every day
doing this much cardio allows you to eat a ton of carbs and stay super lean but full at the same time....
i think most overlook the cardio aspect of looking the part of bodybuilder. Ppl think cardio will make them small, but if enough is done, and with the right diet, you will look big and ripped.
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Dragon,
Where in Korea are you from? I live just outside of Seoul. Its good to meet someone who trains hard here..most people I see train half ass
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Dragon, for 25 year old Korean guy, your English writing skill is I would say perfect. ???
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Dragon, for 25 year old Korean guy, your English writing skill is I would say perfect. ???
He lived for years in the states. His English writing skills are at getbig level, not perfect.
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He lived for years in the states. His English writing skills are at getbig level, not perfect.
What are you saying, he lived in the states for the last 25 years?
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He lived for years in the states. His English writing skills are at getbig level, not perfect.
yeah..
Im looking for some people to train with here...finding people who train hard seem to be rare.
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What do you bench man?
Hope your wrist recovers quickly.
i bench 286pounds but that bench is going DOWN! thanks bro
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Dragon,
Where in Korea are you from? I live just outside of Seoul. Its good to meet someone who trains hard here..most people I see train half ass
i live right next to Kyunghee university in Seoul, you must be in kyung-gi-do? there's a World Gym there from what i've heard...
the caucasians and foreigners in my gym train really really hard!
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i live right next to Kyunghee university in Seoul, you must be in kyung-gi-do? there's a World Gym there from what i've heard...
the caucasians and foreigners in my gym train really really hard!
yeah in two months I will be moving back to seoul...its too isolated out here...its good to hear that..because where i live the gym seems to be more a social event...so I always have to ask the trainers to spot me...because I dont have a training partner..it sucks.
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What are you saying, he lived in the states for the last 25 years?
no i've been in the US till i was in 5th grade, Ranchview school in Naperville,Illinois
trapezkurl, show me some of your elite- congress-men-level english, i'm all ears
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yeah in two months I will be moving back to seoul...its too isolated out here...its good to hear that..because where i live the gym seems to be more a social event...so I always have to ask the trainers to spot me...because I dont have a training partner..it sucks.
yeah that sucks, the trainers here don't know jackshit so don't ask them for advices BTW
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no i've been in the US till i was in 5th grade, Ranchview school in Naperville,Illinois
trapezkurl, show me some of your elite- congress-men-level english, i'm all ears
On getbig I do my best to blend in, though I must confess, I fail miserably at it.
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Hey man keep up the hard work!! I have a question i just recently started taking ZMA do you find that it does anything for you other than give you messed up dreams and acne? Cause thats all that i seem to be benefiting from it.On all the sites i've read about ZMA it simply says it keeps you anabolic while you sleep and increases free testosterone-total testosterone levels. Then in my MD magazine the one with Victor on the cover there's an article in there saying that ZMA actually doesn't do anything and is a shame! so im kinda like what the hell am i doing than taking this stuff.
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good build man
8)
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guys how gullible are you !! he has ache on his chest a bloated face at about 8-10% bodyfat which you only get with steriods and gyno which is clearly visible.good body but be honest and dont make out your natural pal,thats not hating its the truth sorry!! :)
you make valid points
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Hey man keep up the hard work!! I have a question i just recently started taking ZMA do you find that it does anything for you other than give you messed up dreams and acne? Cause thats all that i seem to be benefiting from it.On all the sites i've read about ZMA it simply says it keeps you anabolic while you sleep and increases free testosterone-total testosterone levels. Then in my MD magazine the one with Victor on the cover there's an article in there saying that ZMA actually doesn't do anything and is a shame! so im kinda like what the hell am i doing than taking this stuff.
mesomorph78-thanks! 8)
Firedrineman- if you take a good multivitamin you don't need ZMA, look for multis that have roughly the
same amount(of z,m, ascorbic acid) in a ZMA product.ZMA will work for people who don't eat red
meat everyday, good luck!
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hey man lookin for a little advice...what are u doin for an abs workout?
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you make valid points
If he took drugs to look like that and says hes natural then thats just stupid. I seen guys who are the same and even bigger who are natural. Waste of money to look like that... and looking stupid next to someone who is clean.
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hey man lookin for a little advice...what are u doin for an abs workout?
hanging leg raises 5 sets
lying leg raises 5sets
sometimes crunchs
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If he took drugs to look like that and says hes natural then thats just stupid. I seen guys who are the same and even bigger who are natural. Waste of money to look like that... and looking stupid next to someone who is clean.
my wild guess: juicers who look like shit compared to me come here and get negative, but i don't blame them
cause lifes a bitch 8)
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If he took drugs to look like that and says hes natural then thats just stupid. I seen guys who are the same and even bigger who are natural. Waste of money to look like that... and looking stupid next to someone who is clean.
bullshit. if he is natural (maybe but i doubt it) then that's where natural stops. there are no natties who are much bigger than that at that level of bodyfat