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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Matt on February 24, 2018, 01:52:45 AM
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Did anyone catch the 6-episode series "Jean-Claude Van Johnson"?
I only watched the first episode in full, and half the second. It was sort of like the movie JCVD, which I mean as a compliment.
That said, I do think it's kind of sad that Jean-Claude has been somewhat relegated to only making entertainment that sort of makes fun of his former prime...
When you think about it - with the accent in addition to the fact that he was sort of a piece of Hollywood male meat, it was sort of bound to turn out like this for him, which I find a little sad. He never had the star of Arnold, but along with Sylvester Stallone, and I would say Steven Seagal, he was a definite top 4 Hollywood action star IMO. I would say #3, although some would argue #4, others #2. Aside from The Rock, who can compare to Arnold?
Why is it that in Hollywood today, Liam Neeson is basically our modern-day action star, filming Taken 3 at over 60 years of age? ??? Is it just the whole anti-maleness or "Toxic Masculinity" BS going on?
Anyway, Wiki stated that Jean-Claude was consuming up to ten grams of cocaine a day by 1996 when he realized he had a problem. Yikes!
Is it safe to say that Jean-Claude is what happens when you combine the genetics for amazing physical fitness + drug abuse? As in, Jean-Claude has an amazing constitution to have tolerated that sort of cocaine habit? Or is it just that snorted cocaine is maybe like coffee, with 85% of the deaths coming from intravenous use? [don't quote me on that - just something I read online].
Ok, so that New Year's Resolution to reduce the sizes of my posts by 90%? Yeah, I made it to Day Zero. :-\
Thoughts on Van Damme? His Amazon Prime 6-episode series? His state of mind and being today? Am I wrong that he was safely top 4 in the Hollywood action world?
Discuss.
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I'm posting this since I'm watching Hard Target right now...you have to feel sorry for the overweight Randal character in that movie...like WTF did he do wrong? Poor guy.
Was this Jean-Claude's top physique/form?
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Watch the beginning, Van Damage was great as villain as well.
Starts at 0:01:10
1:22:30 for some hilarious Van Damage-moments of Peace
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van damme is 8 years younger than liam neeson which is promising, in 2026 he can continue the TAKEN series (that is if liam neeson, then 73 has stopped making them)
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van damme is 8 years younger than liam neeson which is promising, in 2026 he can continue the TAKEN series (that is if liam neeson, then 73 has stopped making them)
Liam could probably continue with Taken up until his 80s... :D
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charles bronson did the death wish 5 at 73 years old
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not sure who matt has #3 action stars but i assume its kevin levrone ???
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I'm posting this since I'm watching Hard Target right now...you have to feel sorry for the overweight Randal character in that movie...like WTF did he do wrong? Poor guy.
Was this Jean-Claude's top physique/form?
Bah...I shouldn't have done this Google search.
So it turns out that Eliott Keener, the actor who performed the role of the overweight man Randal Poe in "Hard Target", who was murdered in the movie, himself died in 1999 of a heart attack, just over a month after turning 49. :( How sad is that that the role he had in the movie that, I suspect, was the biggest box office hit he was in, was basically made fun of and abused, then murdered in the movie, only to himself die so young?
Damnit...I knew the man had to be around 70 now, and possibly - more like probably - no longer alive. Why did I have to run that Google search? :(
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Watch the beginning, Van Damage was great as villain as well.
Starts at 0:01:10
1:22:30 for some hilarious Van Damage-moments of Peace
Nice! I don't think I've ever seen that. Thank you, Kwon!
Liam could probably continue with Taken up until his 80s... :D
LOL!!!
It's funny, but also funny you added that emoticon...because you are not kidding. Or maybe I can put that better - some would not think you are kidding. Heck, he is 65 years old now and Taken 3 was only released in 2014...
Always a pleasure reading your posts, Kwon! :)
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charles bronson did the death wish 5 at 73 years old
Haha, I did not know that! Wow! That's perspective for you - Arnold will be 73 in 2020, although he cannot carry a movie alone as he once could. Seems like it needs to be in a multi-star vehicle for it to do well at the box office. :)
not sure who matt has #3 action stars but i assume its kevin levrone ???
Maybe Kev is in a league of his own? Or possibly just a league with himself and Chuck Norris? ???
PS - Also a joy reading your posts, ratherbebig. Although at this point in my life, I'd still rather stay 170 - only this time for as long as I can. I'm 185 now, but believe I can get down quickly if I ever did that thing called cardio. At 36, it may be the time to start for me. I've seen some high school ectomorphs become really, really overweight over 30...
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Watch the beginning, Van Damage was great as villain as well.
Whoa, whoa, whoa...how is it that I read that Bloodsport was Jean-Claude's first action movie? I will definitely have to look more into this now...I obviously read some false information. I had no idea that Jean-Claude did anything of note prior to 1988 in Bloodsport...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Retreat,_No_Surrender
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no retreat no surrender is a great movie in a karate kid 80's kinda way.
the first display of van dammes skills, jumping spinning kicks etc
i watched the first couple of episodes of his amazon show and i thought they were pretty well done and had their moments but it got old pretty quick.
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no retreat no surrender is a great movie in a karate kid 80's kinda way.
the first display of van dammes skills, jumping spinning kicks etc
i watched the first couple of episodes of his amazon show and i thought they were pretty well done and had their moments but it got old pretty quick.
Looks like thanks to you and Kwon, I have a movie to find on Google Play.
Annnndd...not available to rent on Google Play:
https://play.google.com/store/movies/details/No_Retreat_No_Surrender?id=ADDC38DBE1C20697MV
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Also, great way to describe the Jean-Claude Van Johnson series! It was good but gimmicky - it worked for the movie JVCD as a one time deal, but not so much as a series. I hadn't thought of it that way, and I quite like the way you put it. :)
PS - am I the only Getbigger who basically pays for all movies I watch? Better question - am I the only human being on the planet still doing this? ;D My reason is just straightforward capitalism...pay for what you consume - give the producers an incentive to produce more of it. That makes sense, right? Yet I'm the only person I know who seems to think this way, so it's yet another of the many times in my life where I feel like a man in a straitjacket trying to convince the world that it is indeed only me who is sane. :'( ;D
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Matt
You've seen Bloodsport i hope? What made Jean Claude famous.
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Looks like thanks to you and Kwon, I have a movie to find on Google Play.
Annnndd...not available to rent on Google Play:
https://play.google.com/store/movies/details/No_Retreat_No_Surrender?id=ADDC38DBE1C20697MV
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Also, great way to describe the Jean-Claude Van Johnson series! It was good but gimmicky - it worked for the movie JVCD as a one time deal, but not so much as a series. I hadn't thought of it that way, and I quite like the way you put it. :)
PS - am I the only Getbigger who basically pays for all movies I watch? Better question - am I the only human being on the planet still doing this? ;D My reason is just straightforward capitalism...pay for what you consume - give the producers an incentive to produce more of it. That makes sense, right? Yet I'm the only person I know who seems to think this way, so it's yet another of the many times in my life where I feel like a man in a straitjacket trying to convince the world that it is indeed only me who is sane. :'( ;D
For those of us from 'Third World' countries, piracy is only an issue if you sell or distribute copies for profit.
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;D
(http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1233907527_1zl3j89.gif)
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JCVD was a top action man in the late '80s/early '90s. The changing times, his ego and his drug issues resulted in his diminishing star. But the man's shown himself to be resilient and he has now been "around" long enough to be considered cool again.
To me, he's always been cool. Jean Claude just needed to grow up.
He's one of a few Hollywood types I'd actually enjoy meeting. I'm sure yapping with him would be a good time.
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Watch the beginning, Van Damage was great as villain as well.
Starts at 0:01:10
1:22:30 for some hilarious Van Damage-moments of Peace
wow, thats really bad..... :-\
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charles bronson did the death wish 5 at 73 years old
bronson opened the doors for all action stars... nothing special as an actor but a commanding screen presence.he not only acted but looked the part.
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bronson used a lot of steroids how could he otherwise be that ripped ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Loved him in Breakin.
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I'm posting this since I'm watching Hard Target right now...you have to feel sorry for the overweight Randal character in that movie...like WTF did he do wrong? Poor guy.
Was this Jean-Claude's top physique/form?
Oh dont worry about Randal , hes all ears ! ;D
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I'm posting this since I'm watching Hard Target right now...you have to feel sorry for the overweight Randal character in that movie...like WTF did he do wrong? Poor guy.
Was this Jean-Claude's top physique/form?
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"Jean-Claude Van Johnson" - I made it 2 mins and tuned that rubbish off
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I'm posting this since I'm watching Hard Target right now...you have to feel sorry for the overweight Randal character in that movie...like WTF did he do wrong? Poor guy.
Was this Jean-Claude's top physique/form?
He probably looked his best in Kickboxer.
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He probably looked his best in Kickboxer.
True, but his best acting was found in "Black Eagle"
(http://hss-prod.hss.aol.com/hss/storage/midas/2510e80a030169103e44f826c30ebade/203807104/FHPGG5.jpg)
(https://c8.alamy.com/compes/k3jccw/aguila-negra-jean-claude-van-damme-aguila-negra-k3jccw.jpg)
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bronson opened the doors for all action stars... nothing special as an actor but a commanding screen presence.he not only acted but looked the part.
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charles bronson did the death wish 5 at 73 years old
and the death wish remake with Bruce Willis (age 62) will be out soon.
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Id say "the quest" when we see him for his first fight after training on the island.
But he's always had a pretty consistent physique and looked good in recents years off screen.
He probably looked his best in Kickboxer.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=392761.0;attach=425294;image)
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His Legacy will live on in his children Bianca and the son.
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His Legacy will live on in his children Bianca and the son.
his daughter is gorgeous. inherited her mothers looks.
some people here do not know that JCVD used to be a competitive bodybuilder once upon a time and he won the Mr. Belgium bodybuilding title in 1978.
(https://cdn2-thevladarcompany.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/van-damme-mr-belgium.jpg)
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charles bronson did the death wish 5 at 73 years old
CHARLES BRONSON WAS THE FUCKING MAN,LOVE DEATHWISH MOVIES.
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Van Damme movies were fucking great,kickboxer,lion heart,blood sport etc... used to love watching them over and over and practice kicks and splits.
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timecop, double impact, kickboxer, bloodsport, and universal soldier are all great movies
the problem with van damme is his movies didn't have a broad appeal, they were guy movies made for guys
arnold had movies like the terminator and twins, stallone had rocky, those movies appeal to everybody of all ages and that is why they are bigger stars
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Van damme coulda been bigger but he screwed it up for himself, in his own words he blacklisted himself in hollywood. Made demands for so much per picture and was hooked on cocaine, shame.
timecop, double impact, kickboxer, bloodsport, and universal soldier are all great movies
the problem with van damme is his movies didn't have a broad appeal, they were guy movies made for guys
arnold had movies like the terminator and twins, stallone had rocky, those movies appeal to everybody of all ages and that is why they are bigger stars
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He was a GREAT action star but seems have severe health problems now - just look at his face.
His only sin, like so many others, was not stopping at the right time and letting it end gracefully.
And yes, awesome genetics and moves.
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DUDE was gold early on,,good on screen,looks.build,
no retreat no surrender,,probably his biggest 'not lean'build wise
cyborg,,early straight to video type movie ,
bloodsport,great movie,
kickboxer,esp end scenes best build ripped and big
double impact..good story and way he pulled of twins different builds /dress
universal soldier was good movie ,big budget
other good movies..
1993 Nowhere to Run
Sam Gillen
Sudden Death
Darren McCord
1994 Street Fighter
Colonel Guile
1994 Timecop
Walker
1990 Death Warrant
Louis Burke
Lionheart
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He was a GREAT action star but seems have severe health problems now - just look at his face.
His only sin, like so many others, was not stopping at the right time and letting it end gracefully.
And yes, awesome genetics and moves.
He did cocaine, he had a coke habit for many years that almost took him out,
https://www.popdust.com/my-night-with-jean-claude-van-dammea-kilo-of-cocaine-and-a-bottle-of-l-1889770519.html (https://www.popdust.com/my-night-with-jean-claude-van-dammea-kilo-of-cocaine-and-a-bottle-of-l-1889770519.html)
The action film star reveals how Stallone, marriage to a good woman and dogs pulled him back from the drug-fuelled brink
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2012/aug/10/van-damme-expendables-2 (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2012/aug/10/van-damme-expendables-2)
He laughs at his own arrogance.
"I was fucked up, man. But you know, it was not about the money. The people in the UK will read this and say, 'What a fucking piglet.' Sorry about my expression!
I was making movie after movie, and in between movies I was doing promotion. I was tired.
Everything I was touching was making money.
Jim Carrey was being paid a fortune.
And I wanted to play with the system. Like an idiot. Ridiculous." They hung up on him. "I was on the blacklist. That was it."
Ten grams of cocaine a day will do that to you.
He was partying hard: crashing cars into nightclubs, fighting with paparazzi, getting arrested for drink-driving. His films got worse and worse and made less and less. He starred in Double Team, which climaxes in Rome's Colosseum, filled with explosives by Mickey Rourke, who sends a tiger to eat Van Damme's baby.
A near suicidal Van Damme was diagnosed as bipolar. Rehab didn't work for him, so he went cold turkey and sweated it out in the gym, remarried his third wife (after a disastrous marriage with a fourth), and it's been happy families ever since.
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He did cocaine, he had a coke habit for many years that almost took him out,
https://www.popdust.com/my-night-with-jean-claude-van-dammea-kilo-of-cocaine-and-a-bottle-of-l-1889770519.html (https://www.popdust.com/my-night-with-jean-claude-van-dammea-kilo-of-cocaine-and-a-bottle-of-l-1889770519.html)
The action film star reveals how Stallone, marriage to a good woman and dogs pulled him back from the drug-fuelled brink
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2012/aug/10/van-damme-expendables-2 (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2012/aug/10/van-damme-expendables-2)
He laughs at his own arrogance.
"I was fucked up, man. But you know, it was not about the money. The people in the UK will read this and say, 'What a fucking piglet.' Sorry about my expression!
I was making movie after movie, and in between movies I was doing promotion. I was tired.
Everything I was touching was making money.
Jim Carrey was being paid a fortune.
And I wanted to play with the system. Like an idiot. Ridiculous." They hung up on him. "I was on the blacklist. That was it."
Ten grams of cocaine a day will do that to you.
He was partying hard: crashing cars into nightclubs, fighting with paparazzi, getting arrested for drink-driving. His films got worse and worse and made less and less. He starred in Double Team, which climaxes in Rome's Colosseum, filled with explosives by Mickey Rourke, who sends a tiger to eat Van Damme's baby.
A near suicidal Van Damme was diagnosed as bipolar. Rehab didn't work for him, so he went cold turkey and sweated it out in the gym, remarried his third wife (after a disastrous marriage with a fourth), and it's been happy families ever since.
Excesses are normal but in his case it seems a bit on the harsh side. He looks seriously ill not worn out. Shizzo for example did a lot of cockaine and is still looking young.
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Excesses are normal but in his case it seems a bit on the harsh side. He looks seriously ill not worn out. Shizzo for example did a lot of cockaine and is still looking young.
Not as much or as often as Van Damage.
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http://www.moviebreakingnews.com/2018/02/lionheart-2-begins-shooting-with-van-damme-later-this-year/
(http://cdn.movieweb.com/img.news.tops/NEJ8FkfJBeZCNK_1_a/Lionheart-2-Jean-Claude-Van-Damme.jpg)
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http://www.moviebreakingnews.com/2018/02/lionheart-2-begins-shooting-with-van-damme-later-this-year/
(http://cdn.movieweb.com/img.news.tops/NEJ8FkfJBeZCNK_1_a/Lionheart-2-Jean-Claude-Van-Damme.jpg)
HE'S ENTERING MICKEY ROURKE TERRITORY LOOKS WISE..HARDENED CRAGGY..
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http://www.moviebreakingnews.com/2018/02/lionheart-2-begins-shooting-with-van-damme-later-this-year/
(http://cdn.movieweb.com/img.news.tops/NEJ8FkfJBeZCNK_1_a/Lionheart-2-Jean-Claude-Van-Damme.jpg)
Cool! Will watch!
Looks like an ex-fighter now turned homeless bum that have to fight to survive!
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http://www.moviebreakingnews.com/2018/02/lionheart-2-begins-shooting-with-van-damme-later-this-year/
(http://cdn.movieweb.com/img.news.tops/NEJ8FkfJBeZCNK_1_a/Lionheart-2-Jean-Claude-Van-Damme.jpg)
This is based on a true story?
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Bah.
If a man as disciplined as Van Damme can go down the bad road with drugs once he is inundated with free time, money, and abundance/largess, then it can likely happen to anyone.
Once I earned my first million dollars, I tried to immediately invest every dollar I made in order to trick myself psychologically into "feeling poor". But then Bitcoin went nuts, and I couldn't even pretend I was poor anymore. I had money everywhere.
Now I try to hire three friends a day for about $40 each, in addition to paying the mothers of my children child support + the money I spend on my children directly [it's March Break now, and both have birthdays this month, which will cost me at least $850].
Still though, it's not enough to make me feel poor. I have stopped working out. I have gotten lazy. It's like Getbig and renting movies on Google Play is all that I have been doing lately. :-\
As I said, if drug addiction can happen to someone as disciplined as Van Damme, it can happen to anyone. Another example is sex: I consider myself HIGHLY sexually restrained, but how many women can offer me sex before I snap and start indulging?
I really believe anyone, in the face of THAT much abundance [as Van Damme had, with both drugs and sex] will eventually snap. Only the most disciplined can avoid indulgence.
I think this is why it's important to have people and hobbies in place to keep us grounded. If we have this, we should be able to do ok. But I still revert back to Van Damme...if it can happen to him, I believe it stands to reason it can happen to a lot of people - most people, even.
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Talk about beeping your own horn sheeshh... Beep beep matty..
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Matt is rich, and that's why we love him.
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if matt is so rich how come he doesnt have a rolex watch on each arm
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if matt is so rich how come he doesnt have a rolex watch on each arm
I live in poverty. Squalor. That's why I'm rich. Why buy one big house when I can buy a bunch of small ones and rent them for $1,250 monthly each?
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I'm posting this since I'm watching Hard Target right now...you have to feel sorry for the overweight Randal character in that movie...like WTF did he do wrong? Poor guy.
Was this Jean-Claude's top physique/form?
Bit tough to judge - that is quite clearly a digital painting (good one though)
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I live in poverty. Squalor. That's why I'm rich. Why buy one big house when I can buy a bunch of small ones and rent them for $1,250 monthly each?
whats the point of being rich if you dont get to live rich
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whats the point of being rich if you dont get to live rich
It's a fair question, ratherbebig.
To be honest, ever since getting my first paper at age nine in 1991, I have had enough money to get everything I want - which, incidentally, is not very much. Within six months of getting that paper route, I have $500 in the bank and my own 14" Zenith television set. I bought a VCR a little after that, and was basically buying every comic book I wanted - at the time, a lot of Archie Comics, but by 1992, I was completely into Marvel, DC, and also EC - Entertaining Comics [the company that produced the Tales from the Crypt and related titles, and later, MAD MAGAZINE - which I also have a large collection of, stored outside my home, along with the rest of my collection].
I've just always been a simple person, I suppose. I've never really wanted much. I have my health - as best as I am aware - I love my children, I have been getting along well with my parents lately. Only one of my four siblings live in Thunder Bay, Canada, but we get along well.
Does the USA have a $1,000 a week, cash for life lottery? In Canada we have that, but with my rental income, I am able to exceed that, so it very much feels as if I won a lottery like that.
I get to do what I want when I want - which comprises spending a lot of time on Getbig, Facebook, and YouTube ;D - and I don't have to tow the line of a boss that I hate, or stress about where the money to pay my mortgage will come from. :)
I guess I just prefer the peace of mind knowing that my bills are paid and I can live life on my own terms without stressing out about money to pay my bills. I just don't need much, and all I really ever wanted by the time I entered adulthood was to not have to work a 9 to 5, and stress out about it.
I didn't sleep last night, because I was online reading Canadian legal statues...I got absorbed in it, and couldn't stop reading. That is probably the first all-nighter I have had in over five years. :o
But it's nice to know that I don't have to go to work exhausted, and I can just wait for my friend to come here to pay her $50 to spend three hours cleaning my house.
It could just be my autism, but it works for me. It's nice. It's easy. I get to spend a lot of time with my three kids. It's pleasant.
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It's a fair question, ratherbebig.
To be honest, ever since getting my first paper at age nine in 1991, I have had enough money to get everything I want - which, incidentally, is not very much. Within six months of getting that paper route, I have $500 in the bank and my own 14" Zenith television set. I bought a VCR a little after that, and was basically buying every comic book I wanted - at the time, a lot of Archie Comics, but by 1992, I was completely into Marvel, DC, and also EC - Entertaining Comics [the company that produced the Tales from the Crypt and related titles, and later, MAD MAGAZINE - which I also have a large collection of, stored outside my home, along with the rest of my collection].
I've just always been a simple person, I suppose. I've never really wanted much. I have my health - as best as I am aware - I love my children, I have been getting along well with my parents lately. Only one of my four siblings live in Thunder Bay, Canada, but we get along well.
Does the USA have a $1,000 a week, cash for life lottery? In Canada we have that, but with my rental income, I am able to exceed that, so it very much feels as if I won a lottery like that.
I get to do what I want when I want - which comprises spending a lot of time on Getbig, Facebook, and YouTube ;D - and I don't have to tow the line of a boss that I hate, or stress about where the money to pay my mortgage will come from. :)
I guess I just prefer the peace of mind knowing that my bills are paid and I can live life on my own terms without stressing out about money to pay my bills. I just don't need much, and all I really ever wanted by the time I entered adulthood was to not have to work a 9 to 5, and stress out about it.
I didn't sleep last night, because I was online reading Canadian legal statues...I got absorbed in it, and couldn't stop reading. That is probably the first all-nighter I have had in over five years. :o
But it's nice to know that I don't have to go to work exhausted, and I can just wait for my friend to come here to pay her $50 to spend three hours cleaning my house.
It could just be my autism, but it works for me. It's nice. It's easy. I get to spend a lot of time with my three kids. It's pleasant.
Doing the gods work Matt.
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Doing the gods work Matt.
Thank you, good sir. :)
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His 1995-2010 missing in action Has tarnished forever his legacy.
He was already declining by 1990. Universal Soldier was his only big hit in the 90's.
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http://www.the-numbers.com/person/145480401-Jean-Claude-Van-Damme#tab=acting
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He was freund with Lou Ferrigno
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90s