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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Ripped190 on April 07, 2012, 05:49:32 PM
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Hey guys I am 8 weeks out from my first contest and am 175 lbs and 5'8". I am taking 300mg of test, 600mg of equip, and 600 mg of mast a week. I'm also taking 50 mg of T3 and 120 mg of clen ed. I know I need to get leaner but I don't want to get to the stage that GH15 calls too lean and weak lookin. What should I do guys?
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Add in anadrol just 50 mg preworkout and switch to all egg whites and fish for protein and yams and white rice for carbs. Cycle carbs real low for a few days and high for a day. On high days have simple carbs around training ie honey bagels Gatorade. Otherwise fish and asparagus alllllll day with just enough rice to train. Some PB for the brain as needed.
Also, drop EQ and add Tren.
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not bad,good luck.
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you look good, but do you really feel like you have something stage worthy there ?
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you look good, but do you really feel like you have something stage worthy there ?
Getting ripped and stage ready regardless of placing will be the best path for growth. Nothing like the rebound from low singles.
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Getting ripped and stage ready regardless of placing will be the best path for growth. Nothing like the rebound from low singles.
thats something to consider.. cant speak on it since ive never done it.. just wonder what motivates people to step on stage when they dont quite look like a bodybuilder yet.. it kind of gets on my nerves a little bit actually.. for whatever reason
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you are out of your mind tmob,, this fella wipe the floor with you ,, he has more lean muscle than you by wquite a lot,, he is lean too...just need little prep 4-5 weeks on trenbolona high dose and he is realy for his show,, its not national physiqe but can place well in local,, and the reason he is not national is not the weight ...it is his muscular development which lacks...the muscles themselfs lack developments and thickness and thicknes in the right places and over all quality ...but he is good and can do well in local
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im so amazed and surprized with this boarding,, and with getbig in general in last half a year or so ,, you have here a fella that come with pictures...he has nice physiqe for someone who never competed and just start...he actualy look and will look quite similar to wes on stage...he is very good and tbom here make fun of him ,, i dont get this...yes he need to have better pecs it will take sometime but its purly due to inexperience ,, this fella can do VERY well in bodybuild with time,, VERY WELL,,
again what is his best advantage?? he is lean ...yes not impressive lean yet...but its coming,,for this fella its much easy to look like the bodybuild image you all have in your head than to someone who is 270 of bloof
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have you seen tbombz? tbomb is not lean, not a single line or shape on him, and short, sry
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do i compete gh15?
did i make fun of him?
did i say i look better than him?
your becoming quite the sensitive little bitch lately compadre, chill the fuck out
that being said, homeboy is lean but he doesnt come anywhere close to my level of musculature
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go take the same pictures he took outside...and tell me how much beter you are....that fella is nothing to write home about YET!,, but he has lean muscle on him that is equivalent to yours if you got down to his condition ...and his condition is still not what it need to be ...he is 7 week out condition and blurred due to mainly lack of musculatory development ,, he is 5'8 175lb ....put him in 165lb 5'8 and he wipe the flooe with many MANY!,, if legs are good,, and! he does need pecs to complete it all with more musculatory development and condition aka dialing in and bringing muscle up WITH TREN FUCKING BOLONA !
this fella is MUCH better phsiqe than yours tbom ,, MUCH
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BTW good job for being in condition and on point 8 weeks out. Keep doing the work, bud.
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you look good, but do you really feel like you have something stage worthy there ?
Not really but i'm doin amaturs and 156-176 weight class and I hope I will do ok I know I have to gain a lot more mass so after this contest I will focus on gaining size for a good year or so.
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go take the same pictures he took outside...and tell me how much beter you are....that fella is nothing to write home about YET!,, but he has lean muscle on him that is equivalent to yours if you got down to his condition ...and his condition is still not what it need to be ...he is 7 week out condition and blurred due to mainly lack of musculatory development ,, he is 5'8 175lb ....put him in 165lb 5'8 and he wipe the flooe with many MANY!,, if legs are good,, and! he does need pecs to complete it all with more musculatory development and condition aka dialing in and bringing muscle up WITH TREN FUCKING BOLONA !
this fella is MUCH better phsiqe than yours tbom ,, MUCH
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I will post leg pic tommorrow GH15. I def agree with what you are saying i gotta get better development especially my damn pecs.
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BTW good job for being in condition and on point 8 weeks out. Keep doing the work, bud.
Thanks man your diet advice really helped me out a LOT.
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You look good man! Good luck with your show and keep us updated!!
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tbomz good god stop posting that pic and lose about 40lbs bro, u look like fat bouncer joe working at sliders bar and grill,,,i understand you not wanting to compete personally i think competing is dumb i wanna look good year around not time when i look good around posinng in undies on some stage, but dont let yourself get that bloof...loose the puff-buff and just lean the hell up man
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Yea you look plenty ready to compete, its all about coming in lean and in condition. You have enough muscle for it and its always nice to get your first comp under your belt. Good luck brother.
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Ripped good physique bro.
I have no experience with competing.
However, one thing i have observed from fellow competitors in your weight category is that something more anabolic than eq will help you like Deca + Anadrol. One of my colleagues competes around 160lb. About 8 weeks out he blows up on deca and anadrol to mid 180, then drops to mid 160s. Since you are already lean that should fill you out well.
For leaner fellas the high anabolics always do wonders. Even with the eq it's relatively weaker than Deca, so higher dosages are likely required to blow up a little more. We have more than a few competitive BB's at the gym. There are others who simply train on test, tren a, and masteron - then come competition time -- they simply add the anabolics at high dosages.
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Thanks man your diet advice really helped me out a LOT.
If you want my offseason guidance or help coming in to the show, hit me up by PM.
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go take the same pictures he took outside...and tell me how much beter you are....that fella is nothing to write home about YET!,, but he has lean muscle on him that is equivalent to yours if you got down to his condition ...and his condition is still not what it need to be ...he is 7 week out condition and blurred due to mainly lack of musculatory development ,, he is 5'8 175lb ....put him in 165lb 5'8 and he wipe the flooe with many MANY!,, if legs are good,, and! he does need pecs to complete it all with more musculatory development and condition aka dialing in and bringing muscle up WITH TREN FUCKING BOLONA !
this fella is MUCH better phsiqe than yours tbom ,, MUCH
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::) im 255lbs. even if my bodyfat was 20% id still be 210lbs in contest shape. but im more like 15% and would be around 220 in shape.
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1.5 grams a gear to get to 175lbs :o
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::) im 255lbs. even if my bodyfat was 20% id still be 210lbs in contest shape. but im more like 15% and would be around 220 in shape.
If you are 20%????
You are at LEAST that much.
You would end up on state at no more than 190
You REALLY don't have a clue
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::) im 255lbs. even if my bodyfat was 20% id still be 210lbs in contest shape. but im more like 15% and would be around 220 in shape.
Lol... 255, let's say you're 15%. You're holding atleast 35 lbs of water.
(255 - 35)*0.85*1.05 = 195 lbs on stage.
Keep dreaming.
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^ you forgot to subtract the extra 10lbs of hair ;D
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1.5 grams a gear to get to 175lbs :o
Have been 220 with out gear.. weight is irrelevent. Once I am done cutting i'm goin to go for 200 lbs at 6-8 % bodyfat
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Have been 220 with out gear.. weight is irrelevent. Once I am done cutting i'm goin to go for 200 lbs at 6-8 % bodyfat
Weight IS 100% relative to the shit ton of gear you are on to get to where you are.
You are on 1.5 grams of gear to be 175lbs at 10%. So to get to 200 at 6 - 8 what magically you will get there on that same 1.5grams lol
It will that take 2 grams Or maybe 2.5 or 3g if all you have gotten is 175 on 1.5 grams now at 10%
WOW amazing you don't even get it.
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Weight IS 100% relative to the shit ton of gear you are on to get to where you are.
You are on 1.5 grams of gear to be 175lbs at 10%. So to get to 200 at 6 - 8 what magically you will get there on that same 1.5grams lol
It will that take 2 grams Or maybe 2.5 or 3g if all you have gotten is 175 on 1.5 grams now at 10%
WOW amazing you don't even get it.
Well i'm pretty sure my stuff is way underdosed but i'm gonna buy from some1 that has a good rep so hopefully that goes well.
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I looked like this naturally at 160 lbs and was only 16 years old
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Hey guys I am 8 weeks out from my first contest and am 175 lbs and 5'8". I am taking 300mg of test, 600mg of equip, and 600 mg of mast a week. I'm also taking 50 mg of T3 and 120 mg of clen ed. I know I need to get leaner but I don't want to get to the stage that GH15 calls too lean and weak lookin. What should I do guys?
You're on the right path. Still, be more concerned with conditioning than anything else. Being lean and ripped is what wins in the NPC...mass means nothing without it. You'd doing just fine for 8wks out.
That said, what others said about dropping EQ and adding Tren in at this point would be your best bet. Of course, if for some reason you can't (could be several reason) it won't be the end of the world.
Rearden's advice is pretty good. Only things I would say differently is at this stage I don't think you'd have to go the all fish and asparagus route just yet, not at 8wks out and based on your level of leanness at this point. That said, we haven't seen your legs and that could change things a little. I'm also not a big fan of the simple carbs preworkout in a prep diet, I never liked that for myself and don't do it with most of my competitors. There are obviously exceptions....there are always exceptions based on the person.
Anyway, again, I think you're on the right track, looking good and I think you'll do just fine if you keep it up...better than fine if you really get to that miserable lean state.
For tbombz.....even though it was already said above, conditioning means everything for winning NPC shows...assuming it's not judge unfairly due to the friend reason, which does happen more than it should...obviously, any is more than it should. I can't even count how many guys I've seen who were massively muscular, in pretty decent shape and got their ass handed to them on stage by a smaller guy just because he was more ripped...and that's the way it should be. No, a guy who's lean with no muscle shouldn't win, but if he's got good development for his weight class, is the leanest most ripped guy on stage with the fewest lagging body parts compared to the rest of his body, this guy should always win.
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::) im 255lbs. even if my bodyfat was 20% id still be 210lbs in contest shape. but im more like 15% and would be around 220 in shape.
I was 252 at the end of febuary, personally gauged myself at about 18% but for the sake of your arguement lets say I was 20%. I am 212 right now, n fuck no im not in contest shape. Water and BF fuck it all up, you dont have shit to your lean. I will never exceed 12% again because anything above is a trashy physique.
Id say I am lucky if I am 12-13% right now. When your BF is higher, you hold a shitload more water and "think" you have alot of muscle.
Not attacking you, just figured my experience fit perfectly with the example you used.
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You look good bud......go with Reardon Metals advice..........he knows his shit.
Good luck and stay on point!!
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You're on the right path. Still, be more concerned with conditioning than anything else. Being lean and ripped is what wins in the NPC...mass means nothing without it. You'd doing just fine for 8wks out.
That said, what others said about dropping EQ and adding Tren in at this point would be your best bet. Of course, if for some reason you can't (could be several reason) it won't be the end of the world.
Rearden's advice is pretty good. Only things I would say differently is at this stage I don't think you'd have to go the all fish and asparagus route just yet, not at 8wks out and based on your level of leanness at this point. That said, we haven't seen your legs and that could change things a little. I'm also not a big fan of the simple carbs preworkout in a prep diet, I never liked that for myself and don't do it with most of my competitors. There are obviously exceptions....there are always exceptions based on the person.
Anyway, again, I think you're on the right track, looking good and I think you'll do just fine if you keep it up...better than fine if you really get to that miserable lean state.
For tbombz.....even though it was already said above, conditioning means everything for winning NPC shows...assuming it's not judge unfairly due to the friend reason, which does happen more than it should...obviously, any is more than it should. I can't even count how many guys I've seen who were massively muscular, in pretty decent shape and got their ass handed to them on stage by a smaller guy just because he was more ripped...and that's the way it should be. No, a guy who's lean with no muscle shouldn't win, but if he's got good development for his weight class, is the leanest most ripped guy on stage with the fewest lagging body parts compared to the rest of his body, this guy should always win.
Yea thats my plan bro to come in as ripped as possible I was just getting mindfucked cuz I look smaller. And I def will drop the equip as soon as I get my tren which will be in a week most likely! And thanks man yea i already feel miserable some times in the day guess I will experience what a lot of bodybuilders say when the feel like the walking dead lol.
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tbombz is like, 6'1-6'2, right? in dry, contest shape he'd be about 210-220 depending. a lot of people's weights are higher/lower than they look due to bone structure and muscle insertions.
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tbombz is like, 6'1-6'2, right? in dry, contest shape he'd be about 210-220 depending. a lot of people's weights are higher/lower than they look due to bone structure and muscle insertions.
Not to disagree with you again... but I am also 6'1-6'2. lol. Maybe his body holds weight differently then me idk.
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tbombz is like, 6'1-6'2, right? in dry, contest shape he'd be about 210-220 depending. a lot of people's weights are higher/lower than they look due to bone structure and muscle insertions.
lol,, try 190lb in the best possibel scanario IF! he is 6'1...
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is it normal for tren to cause you to be out of breathe in evertything? I get up to go to the fridge and I'm huffing and puffing holy cow how in the FUCK do pros even function at those stupid seminars and fans and stuff....blows my mind
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tbombz is like, 6'1-6'2, right? in dry, contest shape he'd be about 210-220 depending. a lot of people's weights are higher/lower than they look due to bone structure and muscle insertions.
tbombz is 5'11
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I dont see tbombz being any where close to 220-210 on stage for that you damn near have to have 54 inch chest 20inch arms at lower bf then his. Hell arnold was between 225 -235 and was 6'1 that would mean tbombz 5'11 would out muscle arnold on stage. Tbombz even at 210 would be as big if not bigger then Arnold on stage. Also tbombz dosage isnt very high either
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holy shit!@ I thought tbomz was 5 7' and 190 ish????
is he really over 6 feet??? Thats crazy?
ff
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Ripped good physique bro.
I have no experience with competing.
However, one thing i have observed from fellow competitors in your weight category is that something more anabolic than eq will help you like Deca + Anadrol. One of my colleagues competes around 160lb. About 8 weeks out he blows up on deca and anadrol to mid 180, then drops to mid 160s. Since you are already lean that should fill you out well.
For leaner fellas the high anabolics always do wonders. Even with the eq it's relatively weaker than Deca, so higher dosages are likely required to blow up a little more. We have more than a few competitive BB's at the gym. There are others who simply train on test, tren a, and masteron - then come competition time -- they simply add the anabolics at high dosages.
Hey man i'm doin this right now bro i'm blasting the dosage to 1.5 grams eq, 1 gram deca, and 1.5 grams test e a week (will prob look bloated as fuck lol) for about 2 weeks until i'm 5 weeks out then i'll have my tren and blast it high and starve my self. Hopefully the 2 week thing helps my thickness out and I don't look not lean enough for my show. We will see!
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I respect the fact you posted pics, but damn, you look natural to me yet you're on over a gram of gear. Before doing a bb'ing show, you gotta look like a bb'er.
Keep cutting, the rebound after, you will add a lot of muscle but don't compete yet.
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I respect the fact you posted pics, but damn, you look natural to me yet you're on over a gram of gear. Before doing a bb'ing show, you gotta look like a bb'er.
Keep cutting, the rebound after, you will add a lot of muscle but don't compete yet.
I'm gonna compete bro I already meade up my mind I want to do it for the experience and if I place well thats great.. but yea after the comp i'm gonna take a year or so to get the thickness and maturity in the muscle and get up to 210-220 lbs most likely.
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I'm gonna compete bro I already meade up my mind I want to do it for the experience and if I place well thats great.. but yea after the comp i'm gonna take a year or so to get the thickness and maturity in the muscle and get up to 210-220 lbs most likely.
You are looking good, follow the advice given here and do the contest, have fun at the contest, get experience, you wont regret it
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::) im 255lbs. even if my bodyfat was 20% id still be 210lbs in contest shape. but im more like 15% and would be around 220 in shape.
No way, trust me bro I have been shredded, no way in hell you will be over 200 in contest shape, you can`t even see your abs, I was over 250 in last off-season and way leaner then you and came in 207, and I always get shredded periodically which makes it easier for me to perserve muscle you will be surprised how your body will try anything to keep that fat on cause you have never been lean it will even try to burn muscle in its stead, but I do agree you are more muscular then that guy.
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I respect the fact you posted pics, but damn, you look natural to me yet you're on over a gram of gear. Before doing a bb'ing show, you gotta look like a bb'er.
Keep cutting, the rebound after, you will add a lot of muscle but don't compete yet.
Like fuck he looks like a natural, this is a great start and has thickness in all muscle groups, you guy we are talking about his first show, bottom of the amatuars, he doesn`t have to look like Levrone,. Don`t listen to these guys you should place good if you focused and nailed your conditioning
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Add in anadrol just 50 mg preworkout and switch to all egg whites and fish for protein and yams and white rice for carbs. Cycle carbs real low for a few days and high for a day. On high days have simple carbs around training ie honey bagels Gatorade. Otherwise fish and asparagus alllllll day with just enough rice to train. Some PB for the brain as needed.
Also, drop EQ and add Tren.
Sorry to hijack, but I'm wondering what kcals should be in comparison to maintenance. When doing low-carb, how much of a deficit should one be at? 10-20%? And when high-carb, should you go over maintenance?
Thanks.
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Sorry to hijack, but I'm wondering what kcals should be in comparison to maintenance. When doing low-carb, how much of a deficit should one be at? 10-20%? And when high-carb, should you go over maintenance?
Thanks.
. I would say more then 20 % unless yur a natural.
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tbombz - please, please, please shave that stomach and chest, you'd look way better