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President didn't like earmarks, until he did (because he's a lying idiot)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 3/13/2009 | ROGER SIMON
"President Obama sounded so mournful Wednesday about having to sign a $410 billion bill to fund the federal government that, for a second, I thought he would refuse.
He was not sad about the amount of money involved. These days, $410 billion is small potatoes. Obama's stimulus package was $787 billion. His budget for next year projects a $1.75 trillion deficit.
So $410 billion is probably in the range of what Bernie Madoff still has hidden away in his mattress.
No, it was not the amount that made the president so gloomy. It was the $7.7 billion for 8,570 pet projects that are contained in the bill and known as earmarks.
During his campaign, Obama had promised to end most earmarks, and now he is spending billions on them. This has ticked him off. Sort of.
"Done right, earmarks have given legislators the opportunity to direct federal money to worthy projects that benefit people in their districts, and that's why I've opposed their outright elimination," Obama said Wednes- day.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/otherviews/1477075,CST-EDT-simon15.article"
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No defense from the Liberals ???
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CRICKETS
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CRICKETS
100% correct
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100% correct
I like his latest "the fundamentals of the economy are sound" moment.
What a liar.
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I like his latest "the fundamentals of the economy are sound" moment.
What a liar.
he did not say that shit??? didnt mccain say that a few months ago and got ragged this shit on by the media and every lefty on this board...pls give a link if you can
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he did not say that shit??? didnt mccain say that a few months ago and got ragged this shit on by the media and every lefty on this board...pls give a link if you can
Check it out. Yes they did! They used the same exact terminology that McCain did.
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Check it out. Yes they did! They used the same exact terminology that McCain did.
actually i think it was his top economic advisor that said it
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/03/key-obama-econo.html
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actually i think it was his top economic advisor that said it
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/03/key-obama-econo.html
Same thing.
The media and ZERO blasted McCain when he said that.
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Same thing.
The media and ZERO blasted McCain when he said that.
Did Obama actually blast him?
When did this happen? Can someone send me a clip or a sound bite?
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Did Obama actually blast him?
When did this happen? Can someone send me a clip or a sound bite?
Were you not paying attention during the campaign?????
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Were you not paying attention during the campaign?????
I paid attention, but I'll be honest... It sounded more like the media saying shit than Obama himself.
Did Obama actually SAY this? That's all I'm asking.
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I paid attention, but I'll be honest... It sounded more like the media saying shit than Obama himself.
Did Obama actually SAY this? That's all I'm asking.
He did not have to , the media was in the tank for him all along and did the dirty work for him.
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He did not have to , the media was in the tank for him all along and did the dirty work for him.
Perhaps... but I can only blast him for something he actually said.
Same with any other politician.
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Perhaps... but I can only blast him for something he actually said.
Same with any other politician.
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Yes... an Ad said something... yes Obama approved the message... He didn't say McCain was wrong though.
Yes... I'm sort of spinning... but it's factual.
I can't say Obama said it was wrong... I can say he supported an ad that made it appear as if he thought it was wrong. There is a subtle, yet important difference.
On top of this... Obama is not the one who said it today... It was an advisor.
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hahahaha come on guys 240 etc...comment on this shit please.
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Yes... an Ad said something... yes Obama approved the message... He didn't say McCain was wrong though.
hahahah wtf do you think they made the ad for then to say he was right?
next vid...comment please
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hahahaha come on guys 240 etc...comment on this shit please.
Again, he didn't say it today... Some other guy did.
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Yes... an Ad said something... yes Obama approved the message... He didn't say McCain was wrong though.
Yes... I'm sort of spinning... but it's factual.
I can't say Obama said it was wrong... I can say he supported an ad that made it appear as if he thought it was wrong. There is a subtle, yet important difference.
On top of this... Obama is not the one who said it today... It was an advisor.
not an advisor chief of his advisors, LOL come on holmes...you are spinning it just like he did when he put out a negative ad and it got bad feed back and he said he didnt approve it ::) LOL gezz louise man
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Again, he didn't say it today... Some other guy did.
THAT SOME OTHER GUY IS HIS CHIEF ECONOMIC ADVISOR
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THAT SOME OTHER GUY IS HIS CHIEF ECONOMIC ADVISOR
I get it... it's a bad statement... One that Obama (You know... the guy you hate) didn't make.
I'm just confused... Who are you upset with here? Did Obama himself say that the fundamentals of the economy are sound?
I think it's a pretty straight question.
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I get it... it's a bad statement... One that Obama (You know... the guy you hate) didn't make.
I'm just confused... Who are you upset with here? Did Obama himself say that the fundamentals of the economy are sound?
I think it's a pretty straight question.
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That said he's keeping focus on the fundamental aspects... He didn't say whether they were good or bad.
What does that clip prove in your mind?
I don't see what the point of posting it was. You haven't even answered the question I asked you in the previous post I made.
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That said he's keeping focus on the fundamental aspects... He didn't say whether they were good or bad.
What does that clip prove in your mind?
I don't see what the point of posting it was. You haven't even answered the question I asked you in the previous post I made.
LOL OMG he didnt say fundamental aspects, he said the fundamentally SOUND aspects...just stop bro its clear your going to argue this every which way man no matter what. YES HE JUST SAID IT RIGHT IN THE CLIP I GAVE YOU.
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LOL OMG he didnt say fundamental aspects, he said the fundamentally SOUND aspects...just stop bro its clear your going to argue this every which way man no matter what. YES HE JUST SAID IT RIGHT IN THE CLIP I GAVE YOU.
He said he's keeping FOCUS on them... He didn't say they were ALL GOOD.
He didn't SAY that the "fundamental aspects of the economy ARE sound"
He SAID "We are keeping focus on the fundamentally sound aspects of the economy"
They are two different meanings. Any English professor would tell you that the statements do not mean the same thing.
And just for your point about me arguing it... Aren't you guys busy arguing about how everything he's done is just "TERRIBLE"... When in fact, it's really been pretty ok so far and nothing he's done has had any detrimental effect (if any effect) on the economy at all yet.
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He said he's keeping FOCUS on them... He didn't say they were ALL GOOD.
He didn't SAY that the "fundamental aspects of the economy ARE sound"
He SAID "We are keeping focus on the fundamentally sound aspects of the economy"
They are two different meanings. Any English professor would tell you that the statements do not mean the same thing.
LOL bro you find comfort in the grey area where you can squirm and spin shit, he meant that there are fundamentals of our economy that are strong i understand where your trying to fight from but its an uphill battle.
You think that obama is going to come out against the chair of his economic advisors saying the fundamentals of the economy are sound? probably not eh
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LOL bro you find comfort in the grey area where you can squirm and spin shit, he meant that there are fundamentals of our economy that are strong i understand where your trying to fight from but its an uphill battle
You think that obama is going to come out against the chair of his economic advisors saying the fundamentals of the economy are sound? probably not eh
I'm sorry Tony... I didn't hear him say that the fundamentals were sound... I read his advisor say it and I have listened to your clips and he didn't say it there.
What is the point everyone is trying to make here... Did Obama say it or not... If not... Shouldn't the post have something to do with his Chief advisor's statement? Maybe noticing that Obama didn't say it and what not?
Did Obama do something that destroyed our economy here? I'm just trying to understand why everyone is trying to crucify a guy who has been in office for like 60 days.
I was riding into work today and listening to some economic channel on XM and someone called in and said "Why has Obama taken so long to give aid to the small business owners?"
Now... firstly... Notice how he is giving aid to them... He IS doing so... which is a good move I think... Then notice how he says "taken so long". What the hell is that? The guy has been in office all of 60 days and he's not been lazy at all... He's doing a lot of things and for some reason, waiting 60 days for his aid package to small business is TAKING SOOO LONG.
What the hell is that? That's what this reminds me of... People are hating Obama just to hate him. Maybe you don't like his policies... I get it... but really, most of what I hear from the Republicans right now is just plain simple bitching just to bitch.
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If you scroll back i actually clarify that it wasnt him that made the statement but his chair of economic policies or what not. Perhaps we should go back to the thread i started about this and post there. You have to look at in perspective bro, he has given a throng of lesser issues more face time then small business...how long ago did they pass the stimulus bill? why wasnt small businesses helped right after that? why was gitmo, abortion, ammo ban etc...given time before that? dont you agree that helping small businesses is more important then those? Now im not stupid maybe it took a while to come up with something but still that should have been at the forefront is probably how that guy felt and you should be able to understand that.
LOL bro you dont see anything wrong with anything obama has done thus far?
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If you scroll back i actually clarify that it wasnt him that made the statement but his chair of economic policies or what not. Perhaps we should go back to the thread i started about this and post there. You have to look at in perspective bro, he has given a throng of lesser issues more face time then small business...how long ago did they pass the stimulus bill? why wasnt small businesses helped right after that? why was gitmo, abortion, ammo ban etc...given time before that? dont you agree that helping small businesses is more important then those? Now im not stupid maybe it took a while to come up with something but still that should have been at the forefront is probably how that guy felt and you should be able to understand that.
LOL bro you dont see anything wrong with anything obama has done thus far?
I'm saying that I feel that everything has it's time and place. Sure... small business owners needed help... They got it. To talk about it like he completely neglected them when he produced their aid within 60 days of taking office seems very very whiney to me.
I don't like the spending bill... I think it's a lot of money, but I'm willing to sit back and see if it actually helps. Everyone talks a good game, but he is taking the ownership of the problems and trying to fix them as best as he can. So yeah... right now... for the first few months... Hell, maybe even the first year, I'm willing to give him a pass on things that I otherwise might not.
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I'm saying that I feel that everything has it's time and place. Sure... small business owners needed help... They got it. To talk about it like he completely neglected them when he produced their aid within 60 days of taking office seems very very whiney to me.
I don't like the spending bill... I think it's a lot of money, but I'm willing to sit back and see if it actually helps. Everyone talks a good game, but he is taking the ownership of the problems and trying to fix them as best as he can. So yeah... right now... for the first few months... Hell, maybe even the first year, I'm willing to give him a pass on things that I otherwise might not.
he isnt taking ownership of shit he is blaming bush for any and everything...I agree but like i said many lesser important things where put infront of small business help.
LOL thats shit bro, i agree with waiting to see if questionable things work out through results but that doesnt mean he gets a pass.
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he isnt taking ownership of shit he is blaming bush for any and everything...I agree but like i said many lesser important things where put infront of small business help.
LOL thats shit bro, i agree with waiting to see if questionable things work out through results but that doesnt mean he gets a pass.
Why not? I give every new President a pass to try to implement their policies. I did it with Bill, Bush, Bush Sr., and I'm doing it with Obama.
I'm a show me kinda guy... I'll give you the pass to do what you think and if and when it bites you in the ass, I'll call you on it.
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LOL bro you find comfort in the grey area where you can squirm and spin shit, he meant that there are fundamentals of our economy that are strong i understand where your trying to fight from but its an uphill battle.
You think that obama is going to come out against the chair of his economic advisors saying the fundamentals of the economy are sound? probably not eh
Unbelievable. How on earth to spin this on eh?