Jason Genova quits Show= PJ Braun diet, supplement, workout Fail

[njflex]

I think you may be on to something here.  He's been saying "freakin ripped at 170lbs" or "f'n shredded at 175lbs" for years now.  He's close to 170 and that 10lb difference won't make him look like a competitor.  I don't think mentally he can handle being 140-145lbs.  Based on what I've seen that would be ridiculous to him....even if he was in contest shape at that weight.  Then again, if a bodybuilder from a magazine told him he needed to get to that point to be competitive he might change his tune then.

PJ AND SINGERMAN ARE AS CLOSE AS HE CAN GET.

[Man of Steel]

PJ AND SINGERMAN ARE AS CLOSE AS HE CAN GET.

No doubt, but one phone call or email from "Dorian 'Frickin' Yates" telling him 140lbs and he'd be a new man....OTH is right.

[The True Adonis]

PJ AND SINGERMAN ARE AS CLOSE AS HE CAN GET.

PJ and Aaron are so clueless, the steroids have deluded their brains.  It happens to most steroid users.  Notice how most roiders will deride anyone who is very ripped at around 160 lbs at 5`11 which is what you can expect pretty much as a Lifetime Natural.  For some reason, they think they can do better if they were natural.  They have Tom Prince syndrome where they think they will walk the earth without drugs around 200 lbs at 5 percent bodyfat and anything else is either due to poor genetics, lack of training, not enough protein or whatever bullshit excuse they use to delude themselves.

Steroid users are morons for the most part with very few actually knowing anything without their own bro-bias and bro-science.

[Natural Man]

PJ and Aaron are so clueless, the steroids have deluded their brains.  It happens to most steroid users.  Notice how most roiders will deride anyone who is very ripped at around 160 lbs at 5`11 which is what you can expect pretty much as a Lifetime Natural.  For some reason, they think they can do better if they were natural.  They have Tom Prince syndrome where they think they will walk the earth without drugs around 200 lbs at 5 percent bodyfat and anything else is either due to poor genetics, lack of training, not enough protein or whatever bullshit excuse they use to delude themselves.

Steroid users are morons for the most part with very few actually knowing anything without their own bro-bias and bro-science.

they dont even know what they would look like without their steroid use anyway. They ve been addicted for decades. The drug use is so deeply part of who they are they couldnt imagine a future without injecting the shit in their bodies. Until one internal organ starts failing.

[doriancutlerman]

PJ and Aaron are so clueless, the steroids have deluded their brains.  It happens to most steroid users.  Notice how most roiders will deride anyone who is very ripped at around 160 lbs at 5`11 which is what you can expect pretty much as a Lifetime Natural.  For some reason, they think they can do better if they were natural.  They have Tom Prince syndrome where they think they will walk the earth without drugs around 200 lbs at 5 percent bodyfat and anything else is either due to poor genetics, lack of training, not enough protein or whatever bullshit excuse they use to delude themselves.

Steroid users are morons for the most part with very few actually knowing anything without their own bro-bias and bro-science.

Ah, hell, dude, Prince thought he couldn't go below the 230s at that bodyfat "no matter 'what'."  (IIRC, he didn't think he'd ever weigh less than 250 sans training AND drugs.  But I doubt even Prince Arrogance thought he'd be ripped at that weight.)

Of course, "what" came calling.

[OTHstrong]

PJ and Aaron are so clueless, the steroids have deluded their brains.  It happens to most steroid users.  Notice how most roiders will deride anyone who is very ripped at around 160 lbs at 5`11 which is what you can expect pretty much as a Lifetime Natural.  For some reason, they think they can do better if they were natural.  They have Tom Prince syndrome where they think they will walk the earth without drugs around 200 lbs at 5 percent bodyfat and anything else is either due to poor genetics, lack of training, not enough protein or whatever bullshit excuse they use to delude themselves.

Steroid users are morons for the most part with very few actually knowing anything without their own bro-bias and bro-science.

without the insults of course, I actually have to agree, no juice to come in shredded at 170 is absolutely retarded and delusional,

[THE BOUNCER]

PJ and Aaron are so clueless, the steroids have deluded their brains.  It happens to most steroid users.  Notice how most roiders will deride anyone who is very ripped at around 160 lbs at 5`11 which is what you can expect pretty much as a Lifetime Natural.  For some reason, they think they can do better if they were natural.  They have Tom Prince syndrome where they think they will walk the earth without drugs around 200 lbs at 5 percent bodyfat and anything else is either due to poor genetics, lack of training, not enough protein or whatever bullshit excuse they use to delude themselves.

Steroid users are morons for the most part with very few actually knowing anything without their own bro-bias and bro-science.

might be true but us steroid users look better then you!  

[Natural Man]

might be true but us steroid users look better then you!  

It's all fun and games until you fry an internal organ or get other kind of health complications tho. But hey, if shortening your life expectancy is "winning" for you, whatever floats your boat.

[Ronnie Rep]

without the insults of course, I actually have to agree, no juice to come in shredded at 170 is absolutely retarded and delusional,

Absolutely, I competed at 170 at 5'9" on low doses of Deca and D'bol!

[OTHstrong]

Absolutely, I competed at 170 at 5'9" on low doses of Deca and D'bol!

170 may sound small but at shredded conditioning 170 is pretty jacked

[Ronnie Rep]

170 may sound small but at shredded conditioning 170 is pretty jacked

If I ever find my pics I will post!

[THE BOUNCER]

It's all fun and games until you fry an internal organ or get other kind of health complications tho. But hey, if shortening your life expectancy is "winning" for you, whatever floats your boat.

after age 50 everyone looks like shit. who gives a fuck. being 85 is something that isnt in the cards for me..

[OTHstrong]

If I ever find my pics I will post!

Yes do so, you look pretty compact, a good bodybuilding structure.

[THE BOUNCER]

the 170 shredded thing obviously depends on height. at 6 feet I would NOT look i ever lifted a weight in my life.

[C-BuZz]

PJ and Aaron are so clueless, the steroids have deluded their brains.  It happens to most steroid users.  Notice how most roiders will deride anyone who is very ripped at around 160 lbs at 5`11 which is what you can expect pretty much as a Lifetime Natural.  For some reason, they think they can do better if they were natural.  They have Tom Prince syndrome where they think they will walk the earth without drugs around 200 lbs at 5 percent bodyfat and anything else is either due to poor genetics, lack of training, not enough protein or whatever bullshit excuse they use to delude themselves.

Steroid users are morons for the most part with very few actually knowing anything without their own bro-bias and bro-science.

I agree with you 100% on this. "MOST" steroid users have lost touch with reality. I see it time & time again when they go giving warped advice to naturals.

But I disagree with the TV dinner theory. Those TV dinners are just plain shit on a plate, don't tell me a calorie is a calorie either. I know better than that.

[THE BOUNCER]

But I disagree with the TV dinner theory. Those TV dinners are just plain shit on a plate, don't tell me a calorie is a calorie either. I know better than that.

exactly. adonis has a good head on his shoulders but he has his head up his ass when it comes to diet. just because something works does not mean it's the optimal approach.

[Nicademus]

A retard mind and horrible genetics and this guy is the result. Lets be real. He could diet his ass off and still look like shit. He was not meant to look good with his shirt off, this is the brutal truth.

X2

[Mr Nobody]

Sad story he was just trying to be something.

[Marty Champions]

jason needs a supply of rock cocaine for a couple weeks he would be dialed in in 2 weeks tops

[Nicademus]

agreed, but he could try his best and get as lean as possible to look ok-ish, but realisticaly, even if that happened,i dont see him maintaining that even remotely, im tending toward conclusion-solution of euthanizing

Lol-no doubt.

I just think what you see is what you get.  Overall, there has been 0 progress-a fluctuation here and there, that's about it.

[D.O.U.P]

agreed, but he could try his best and get as lean as possible to look ok-ish, but realisticaly, even if that happened,i dont see him maintaining that even remotely, I'm tending toward conclusion-solution of euthanizing




I posted that dog wouldn't hunt.

Look, I've worked with all types, including border line Assburgers, dope fiends, nose pickers, stinky-stinkers, bank robbers and these fuckers all ended up having solid to amazing builds. Why? THEY  WANTED  IT.

He cries, he whines and ACTS like he has passion. HE IS AN ATTENTION WHORE, CONNING ON A DAILY BASIS.

CON MAN who is a tad slow.

[OTHstrong]

the 170 shredded thing obviously depends on height. at 6 feet I would NOT look i ever lifted a weight in my life.

ya but he is like 5 foot 8

[C-BuZz]

exactly. adonis has a good head on his shoulders but he has his head up his ass when it comes to diet. just because something works does not mean it's the optimal approach.

He does know one thing & that's how to get ripped. But I can bet it wasn't on TV dinners.

me i give diet advice to nattys bc im natty at times myself and have been for long time, theres indeed differences.

let me say this, the adonis concept is ok for natties, not optimal, but its actualy ok.

for gear users its a recipe for disaster.

I dunno Gal, when you give advice like "If your natural why do you even bother lifting" OR "do some pushups a few times a week because there's no point lifting"(which you've done on many occasions)  I question how knowledgeable you really are on being a lifetime natural.

Jason's problem is he is eating WAY to many carbs & not enough cardio. That's pretty much it.

[Meaningless]

[THE BOUNCER]

lmfao.

this is what im talking about. this is not the body of someone who lifts weights. his retardation limits him physically at least his upper half, don't tell me it doesn't.