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Title: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 22, 2017, 08:40:47 PM
😂😂😂😂

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/09/22/donald-trump-blasts-nfl-flag-kneeling-get-sob-field
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 22, 2017, 08:44:18 PM
Another nail in the NFL coffin.
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Kwon on September 22, 2017, 08:49:08 PM
Tell them POTUS!
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: calfzilla on September 22, 2017, 08:53:20 PM
When I voted for Trump I had no idea he would be this awesome!
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Kwon on September 22, 2017, 08:59:09 PM
Trump should purchase ALL NFL-teams and weed out the kneelers.
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 22, 2017, 09:04:50 PM
Another nail in the NFL coffin.

Personally, I think it might be a wake up call. But, he'll get called a racist for whatever reason
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Kwon on September 22, 2017, 09:13:42 PM
Personally, I think it might be a wake up call. But, he'll get called a racist for whatever reason

He can take it :D
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Chidoman on September 22, 2017, 09:18:04 PM
Trump Has Another Win!!...How Awesome!!... ;D
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 22, 2017, 10:10:34 PM
Personally, I think it might be a wake up call. But, he'll get called a racist for whatever reason


To be honest, he's from NY and can handle it. I think he revels in it. He has a lot of flaws but his takes cut down the chatter.
Title: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 23, 2017, 04:29:46 AM
How can anyone not love our dear President!

Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Kwon on September 23, 2017, 04:35:44 AM
How can anyone not love our dear President!



What does that video have to do with POTUS?
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: robcguns on September 23, 2017, 06:25:35 AM
Saw him say that this morning on the news,it was great and he is 100% correct.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Redux on September 23, 2017, 06:29:21 AM
I like Trump more every day.
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Redux on September 23, 2017, 06:54:18 AM
Trump is the man.
He's the best thing that could have happened to this country after eight years of that idiot, Obama.
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: SF1900 on September 23, 2017, 07:00:03 AM
Here's hoping that more negativity publicity will keep driving the NFL underground and eventually, into total annihilation--although I do not think this will happen during my lifetime.

"But could that be changing? Since the season began two weeks ago, the internet has been teeming with articles with headlines such as “How football stopped being fun,” “Inexperienced quarterbacks, porous lines are crippling scoring and crushing the NFL’s watchability,” “The NFL’s crisis on offense,” “The Football Industrial Complex is in big trouble” and “The NFL is being devoured by its own economic model.”
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 23, 2017, 07:16:16 AM
Personally, I think it might be a wake up call. But, he'll get called a racist for whatever reason

I hope so. This shit needs to come to a head. How long do we have to hear about racism and hate from the most violent, criminal demographic on the face of the earth?

I see this shit every day with blacks, one more miserable and pissed off than the next, and it shows in the statistics:


7 killed over long Labor Day weekend in Baltimore - Baltimore Sun

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-labor-day-homicides-20170905-story.html


Meanwhile, we have to get lectures from ghetto trash telling us how to act.




Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on September 23, 2017, 08:34:13 AM
NFL = the Mandingo fights of the modern age.
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Mobil on September 23, 2017, 08:37:39 AM
the more he talks the more i love this guy(i used to believe he needed to stfu on twitter, not anymore)... doesnt give a fuck about being PC.....makes pussy libs melt.
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Mobil on September 23, 2017, 08:39:52 AM
Trump should purchase ALL NFL-teams and weed out the kneelers.

dont bring your personal beliefs to your job..... everyone knows this for all jobs in america. outside of work on your own free time...fine....not on company time. spoiled, entitled brats
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Powerlift66 on September 23, 2017, 09:15:51 AM
He may be crazy, but he's got balls. Makes pussy libtards melt/cry.
Why be a liar/pussy and tip toe around things like that phony Barry O.

Makes a lot of Right-tards melt too. Says what he thinks at least,and pussies cant handle that.
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: seCrawler on September 23, 2017, 11:19:25 AM


Fire everyone in the NFL but it's equally everyone's fault when it comes to kkk, skinheads and the confederate flag.  you go, trump  ::)
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: HTexan on September 23, 2017, 11:21:45 AM
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Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 23, 2017, 11:31:22 AM
Typical Libtard deflection. How many of the 500 were killed by white anything much less an insignificant group of supremacists?

But hey, let's just keep pretending.


Chicago Records 500th Homicide for 2017: Report

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Chicago-Records-500th-Homicide-for-2017-Report-445321293.html%3famp=y




Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Mobil on September 23, 2017, 11:31:44 AM
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Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: gmflex on September 23, 2017, 11:33:04 AM
Teh Donald on a meltdown against all sports / teams...

 ;D  ;D


http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/23/donald-trump-tells-golden-state-warriors-youre-not-welcome-at-white-house/ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/23/donald-trump-tells-golden-state-warriors-youre-not-welcome-at-white-house/)
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: SF1900 on September 23, 2017, 11:40:04 AM
Teh Donald on a meltdown against all sports / teams...

 ;D  ;D


http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/23/donald-trump-tells-golden-state-warriors-youre-not-welcome-at-white-house/ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/23/donald-trump-tells-golden-state-warriors-youre-not-welcome-at-white-house/)

Trump needs to stop calling out the NBA or NFL. The more he talks about it, the more publicity (good or bad) the NFL or NBA gets. Just let both crappy leagues die out.
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Mobil on September 23, 2017, 11:42:17 AM
Trump needs to stop calling out the NBA or NFL. The more he talks about it, the more publicity (good or bad) the NFL or NBA gets. Just let both crappy leagues die out.

not my opinion... his voter base are the ones paying money to watch and support these teams.
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: falco on September 23, 2017, 11:45:52 AM
When I voted for Trump I had no idea he would be this awesome!

You dont vote in the States.
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: SF1900 on September 23, 2017, 11:47:35 AM
not my opinion... his voter base are the ones paying money to watch and support these teams.

Rather hypocritical of them. They love America, but support a league who supports, or at the very least, does not sanction Anti-American players.

But, hey, who cares because they have their Sunday Football!!!
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Mobil on September 23, 2017, 11:54:00 AM
Rather hypocritical of them. They love America, but support a league who supports, or at the very least, does not sanction Anti-American players.

But, hey, who cares because they have their Sunday Football!!!

NFL is a American tradition... so most pro Trump people are pro America.. and these anti-american outbursts by these few players are impacting the NFL ratings
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: SF1900 on September 23, 2017, 12:03:00 PM
NFL is a American tradition... so most pro Trump people are pro America.. and these anti-american outbursts by these few players are impacting the NFL ratings

Who cares about tradition. Everything should be measures within its own current sociohistorical context.

So, they are Pro-America, but support an organization that is tolerant of Anti-America sentiments. Again, hypocrites. If they were truly Pro-America, they would take a hard stance against an organization that is tolerant of Anti-American sentiments. So far, many have. Lets hope the decline continues!

Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 23, 2017, 12:04:54 PM
Who cares about tradition. Everything should be measures within its own current sociohistorical context.

So, they are Pro-America, but support an organization that is tolerant of Anti-America sentiments. Again, hypocrites. If they were truly Pro-America, they would take a hard stance against an organization that is tolerant of Anti-American sentiments. So far, many have. Lets hope the decline continues!



Horseshit
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 23, 2017, 12:05:21 PM

Fire everyone in the NFL but it's equally everyone's fault when it comes to kkk, skinheads and the confederate flag.  you go, trump  ::)
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Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Mobil on September 23, 2017, 12:05:25 PM
Who cares about tradition. Everything should be measures within its own current sociohistorical context.

So, they are Pro-America, but support an organization that is tolerant of Anti-America sentiments. Again, hypocrites. If they were truly Pro-America, they would take a hard stance against an organization that is tolerant of Anti-American sentiments. So far, many have. Lets hope the decline continues!



this has became recent events..... not always has it been this way with the NFL... these few PAID athletes are having their little spouts and its catching up to them... yes America is about free speach..... not on company time.
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Never1AShow on September 23, 2017, 12:06:55 PM
Brilliant move by Trump, speaking up for the many who feel frustrated by the spoiled millionaire athletes.  He's cemented a 2nd term easily.
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: SF1900 on September 23, 2017, 12:07:41 PM
this has became recent events..... not always has it been this way with the NFL

And, how will these Pro-Americans respond if the NFL continues to turn a "blind eye" to Anti-American sentiments? What if it gets worse? When will they eventually put their footdown and boycott the organization? Never. Why? Because people are comfortable. They have their sunday football, their beer, and their pretzels. They don't want to disturb their comforting Sunday football. Sad.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Mobil on September 23, 2017, 12:11:17 PM
And, how will these Pro-Americans respond if the NFL continues to turn a "blind eye" to Anti-American sentiments? What if it gets worse? When will they eventually put their footdown and boycott the organization? Never. Why? Because people are comfortable. They have their sunday football, their beer, and their pretzels. They don't want to disturb their comforting Sunday football. Sad.  ::) ::)

its starting to happen.... look at ratings... look at how they black listed Colin...who started this all for his own personal gain. Trump is good friends with the New England Patriots owner.. so he gets facts...
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: SF1900 on September 23, 2017, 12:17:54 PM
its starting to happen.... look at ratings... look at how they black listed Colin...who started this all for his own personal gain. Trump is good friends with the New England Patriots owner.. so he gets facts...

I know it's starting to happen. A post above, I wrote, "So far, many have. Lets hope the decline continues!"

Well, like I said, I hope the decline of the NFL continues to happen.
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Mobil on September 23, 2017, 12:18:36 PM
I know it's starting to happen. A post above, I wrote, "So far, many have. Lets hope the decline continues!"

Well, like I said, I hope the decline of the NFL continues to happen.


growing up as a Cowboy fan i hope not
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 23, 2017, 12:49:27 PM
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Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: dj181 on September 23, 2017, 01:00:04 PM
football backs i.e. running backs/defensive backs are the greatest all around atheletes in sports BAR NONE

my sports are boxing and basketball and we got real good athletic abilitty but the football backs TRUMP ALL
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 23, 2017, 01:04:16 PM
>be American black
>have the highest standards of living of any black person in the planet
>whites create countless programs that put you and your kind over them (affirmative action, diversity hires, diversity visas etc)
>68% of interracial murders have black perpetrators and white victims
>90% of blacks getting murdered are killed by other blacks
>even though there's mass incarceration rates amongst your kind this is because your people commit several times more crimes than any other ethnic group combined.
>the media and corporations cater to you massively, if they do anything considered remotely offensive by one of your people they can get massive lawsuits, they just listen yo your every need
>the presence of your kind in the country is a literal tax drain, but whitey doesn't cares and still pays for your existence

>somehow after all that still complain to whitey because you want more

I hope apeball players keep protesting more and more and keep trying to peddle their petty politics in a sport where most of the fanbase is white working class males.

I'm sure it'll turn out well for them.


Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Never1AShow on September 23, 2017, 01:04:49 PM
football backs i.e. running backs/defensive backs are the greatest all around atheletes in sports BAR NONE

my sports are boxing and basketball and we got real good athletic abilitty but the football backs TRUMP ALL

Very common at high school level to see the star running back also be star of track team and basketball team if he wants to be.
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Mobil on September 23, 2017, 01:34:20 PM
>be American black
>have the highest standards of living of any black person in the planet
>whites create countless programs that put you and your kind over them (affirmative action, diversity hires, diversity visas etc)
>68% of interracial murders have black perpetrators and white victims
>90% of blacks getting murdered are killed by other blacks
>even though there's mass incarceration rates amongst your kind this is because your people commit several times more crimes than any other ethnic group combined.
>the media and corporations cater to you massively, if they do anything considered remotely offensive by one of your people they can get massive lawsuits, they just listen yo your every need
>the presence of your kind in the country is a literal tax drain, but whitey doesn't cares and still pays for your existence

>somehow after all that still complain to whitey because you want more


you would make a larger impact if you posted sources...just saying
I hope apeball players keep protesting more and more and keep trying to peddle their petty politics in a sport where most of the fanbase is white working class males.

I'm sure it'll turn out well for them.




you would make a larger impact if you posted sources...just saying..otherwise its just your opinion
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: dj181 on September 23, 2017, 01:34:39 PM
Very common at high school level to see the star running back also be star of track team and basketball team if he wants to be.

yep, they got it all... strength, speed, power, agility, balance, quickness, and even cardio stamina

fuck them  >:(
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Mobil on September 23, 2017, 01:48:01 PM
yep, they got it all... strength, speed, power, agility, balance, quickness, and even cardio stamina

fuck them  >:(

ya i was watching the past Olympics at a bar/restaurant .... wasnt really paying attention..just drinking my beer and eating at the bar... heard this little hispanic girl say "all the people are black"(referring to the Olympics)... thought it was funny
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 23, 2017, 01:49:48 PM
you would make a larger impact if you posted sources...just saying..otherwise its just your opinion

Here are a few:



http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/year_end_2015_enforcement_report.pdf

The race/ethnicity of known Robbery suspects is primarily Black (69.2%). Hispanic suspects account for an additional (24.9%) of the suspect population. White suspects account for (4.0%) of all Robbery suspects while Asian /Pacific Islanders accounted for (1.8%) of known Robbery suspects



https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/08/10/african-american-homicide-rate-nearly-quadruple-national-average-11680


The CDC confirms that, following an extended period of general decline, the overall homicide rate -- as well as the homicide rate within each racial group -- has increased from 2014 to 2015. In 2015, the homicide rates were (per 100,000 population):


20.9 for blacks (non-Hispanic)
4.9 for Hispanics
2.6 for whites (non-Hispanic)
5.7 for all races


Blacks struggle with 72 percent unwed mothers rate - Women's health

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39993685/ns/health-womens_health/t/blacks-struggle-percent-unwed-mothers-rate/

Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: calfzilla on September 23, 2017, 01:54:41 PM
Trump uninvited that phaggot steph curry  ;D
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 23, 2017, 01:55:57 PM
you would make a larger impact if you posted sources...just saying..otherwise its just your opinion

Are you fucking kidding me? How many times do crime statistics need to be posted???

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhtIB9Nsrq7e4vAbB3
How much do you need to see before you realize they're animals?
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Mobil on September 23, 2017, 01:58:44 PM
Are you fucking kidding me? How many times do crime statistics need to be posted???

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshhtIB9Nsrq7e4vAbB3
How much do you need to see before you realize they're animals?

thats not a credible source.. now i know your trolling... my point is you redpill people by having sources to back up your claims
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 23, 2017, 01:59:10 PM
For eight years we were told that the cops were the problem. However, when the cops backed off these are the results:


Chicago Police Street Stops Decrease Dramatically Amid Sinking Morale

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160113/loop/chicago-police-street-stops-decrease-dramatically-amid-sinking-morale.amp


Violent weekend leaves 11 dead as city marks 500 homicides - Chicago Tribune

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-shootings-violence-homicides-20170918-story,amp.html
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 23, 2017, 02:13:23 PM
thats not a credible source.. now i know your trolling... my point is you redpill people by having sources to back up your claims

They've been posted countless times.

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Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 23, 2017, 03:19:01 PM
What does that video have to do with POTUS?

I have no idea what happened to my video hahahah

Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Shizzo on September 23, 2017, 03:20:29 PM
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Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 23, 2017, 03:22:39 PM
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I know, it was great that they did that to the dirty traitor Abe Lincoln  ;D
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: sync pulse on September 23, 2017, 04:01:42 PM

How can anyone not love our dear President!

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I always have more of an emotional connection with the Bendix Machines from the late 1940's...



Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 23, 2017, 04:18:02 PM
I had to replace the Starter Bendix on my 1950's McCulloch Outboard Engine. What a pain in the ass lol
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Never1AShow on September 23, 2017, 04:23:26 PM
Brilliant move by Trump, giving voice to all of those pissed of people mad at the NFL and antiAmrican players looking for some way to express it, but who also don't want to abandon the game.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 23, 2017, 04:56:47 PM
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Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
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Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
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Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Never1AShow on September 23, 2017, 05:17:12 PM
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How old is that graph, I think the results of the last election or two would skew WWE republican.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 23, 2017, 05:20:28 PM
Donald Trump is quickly becoming my favorite President.

The United States is imperfect but it's pretty fucking awesome and NFL players are reaping huge benefits from the opportunity that America provides.  How about a little fucking gratitude?

Fuck the NFL and NBA for life.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 23, 2017, 05:23:36 PM
Donald Trump is quickly becoming my favorite President.

The United States is imperfect but it's pretty fucking awesome and NFL players are reaping huge benefits from the opportunity that America provides.  How about a little fucking gratitude?

Fuck the NFL and NBA for life.

I used to play and watch variety of sports back in the day. However, my all time favorite sport is Hockey.

When you compare the NHL to  theNFL, NBA, and even MLB, how often do hockey players get into trouble? Rarely ever. Hockey players are definitely class acts. Although I do not watch sports any more, I will always have a place for hockey in my heart! On occasion, I still do watch the New York Rangers. But, yeah, if you're going to support a sport, at least support the NHL.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 23, 2017, 05:25:52 PM
I used to play and watch variety of sports back in the day. However, my all time favorite sport is Hockey.

When you compare the NHL to  theNFL, NBA, and even MLB, how often do hockey players get into trouble? Rarely ever. Hockey players are definitely class acts. Although I do not watch sports any more, I will always have a place for hockey in my heart! On occasion, I still do watch the New York Rangers. But, yeah, if you're going to support a sport, at least support the NHL.  :D :D :D

Hockey is fun to watch in person but I can't watch it on TV.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: calfzilla on September 23, 2017, 05:27:00 PM
Hockey is fun to watch in person but I can't watch it on TV.

Same here.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 23, 2017, 05:27:53 PM
Hockey is fun to watch in person but I can't watch it on TV.

I can watch it live or on television.

But besides that, haven't you noticed that NHL players get in the least amount of trouble out of all the major sports. Its been like this for a good number of years. Hockey players just do their thing--they don't cause trouble or any of that shit.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: dj181 on September 23, 2017, 05:35:43 PM
I can watch it live or on television.

But besides that, haven't you noticed that NHL players get in the least amount of trouble out of all the major sports. Its been like this for a good number of years. Hockey players just do their thing--they don't cause trouble or any of that shit.

no blacks in hockey chief, which equals BORING
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 23, 2017, 05:39:11 PM
(http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1506212478106.jpg)
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/915/185/f4d.jpg)
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Royalty on September 23, 2017, 05:47:46 PM
no blacks in hockey chief, which equals BORING

Joon everything about you is boring
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Mobil on September 23, 2017, 06:21:39 PM
I used to play and watch variety of sports back in the day. However, my all time favorite sport is Hockey.

When you compare the NHL to  theNFL, NBA, and even MLB, how often do hockey players get into trouble? Rarely ever. Hockey players are definitely class acts. Although I do not watch sports any more, I will always have a place for hockey in my heart! On occasion, I still do watch the New York Rangers. But, yeah, if you're going to support a sport, at least support the NHL.  :D :D :D

they are also all white
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Mobil on September 23, 2017, 06:22:54 PM
(http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1506212478106.jpg)
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/915/185/f4d.jpg)



you must be atleast 18 years old to post on this board
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 23, 2017, 06:35:53 PM
 http://www.cnn.com/
 :D
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: calfzilla on September 23, 2017, 06:39:11 PM
http://www.cnn.com/
 :D

Fuck those rich ball playin spoiled brats.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: calfzilla on September 23, 2017, 06:42:50 PM
I prefer athletes more like John Rocker
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 23, 2017, 07:11:47 PM
He just doubled down and told Goodell to make them stand.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Mobil on September 23, 2017, 07:11:59 PM
http://www.cnn.com/
 :D

they dont vote for him and never will...so who cares.... its now "racist" to call people out for not standing for the national anthem..according to CNN
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 23, 2017, 07:25:50 PM
they dont vote for him so who cares.... its now "racist" to call people out for not standing for the national anthem..according to CNN

I was just shocked that there were ten fucking reports about it on their site. MSM and liberals say Trump is to blame for current racial tensions but not according to this graph provided by (((NBC)))
(https://hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/race.jpg)
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Moontrane on September 23, 2017, 07:33:02 PM
They've been posted countless times.

(https://murderbymedia3.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/1487764140029.jpg?w=660)


Have you read the book by Schweitzer?  The quote seems suspect.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Mobil on September 23, 2017, 07:35:09 PM
I was just shocked that there were ten fucking reports about it on their site. MSM and liberals say Trump is to blame for current racial tensions but not according to this graph provided by (((NBC)))
(http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1506208391870.jpg)

Obama started the racial tensions.......i really dont care anymore. black americans just complain and get tons of media attention. they are over represented by only having  12-13% of the american population.
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 23, 2017, 08:02:07 PM
Have you read the book by Schweitzer?  The quote seems suspect.

It's a real quote from African notebook. Nothing he said should come as a surprise to anyone.

http://www.crisismagazine.com/2016/looking-down-on-africa
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 23, 2017, 08:14:38 PM
Brilliant move by Trump, giving voice to all of those pissed of people mad at the NFL and antiAmrican players looking for some way to express it, but who also don't want to abandon the game.

Too late. Any white person who still supports this game is a fool. This exposed the NFL for what it is the same way that police taking a kinder gentler approach exposed inner cities for what they are:


Second deadly shooting in Baltimore's 'Nobody kill anybody' weekend

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/08/04/us/baltimore-ceasefire-weekend/index.html
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Moontrane on September 23, 2017, 08:40:54 PM
It's a real quote from African notebook. Nothing he said should come as a surprise to anyone.

http://www.crisismagazine.com/2016/looking-down-on-africa

I don't buy it.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Albert_Schweitzer

Misattributed[edit]
I have given my life to try to alleviate the sufferings of Africa. There is something that all white men who have lived here like I must learn and know: that these individuals are a sub-race. They have neither the intellectual, mental, or emotional abilities to equate or to share equally with white men in any function of our civilization. I have given my life to try to bring them the advantages which our civilization must offer, but I have become well aware that we must retain this status: the superior and they the inferior. For whenever a white man seeks to live among them as their equals they will either destroy him or devour him. And they will destroy all of his work. Let white men from anywhere in the world, who would come to Africa, remember that you must continually retain this status; you the master and they the inferior like children that you would help or teach. Never fraternize with them as equals. Never accept them as your social equals or they will devour you. They will destroy you.
This has usually been presented as something "said shortly before his death" without any definite source, but appears to be entirely spurious. The "FAQ about the life and thoughts of Albert Schweitzer" asserts "This quote is utterly false and is an outrageously inaccurate picture of Dr. Schweitzer’s view of Africans. Dr. Schweitzer never said or wrote anything remotely like this. It does NOT appear in the book African Notebook." This refers to some citations of it being from Afrikanische Geschichten (1938), which was translated as From My African Notebook (1939) by Mrs. C. E. B Russell
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: The Scott on September 23, 2017, 09:01:02 PM
Fuck the NFL, NBA and MLB.  Fuck all professional athletics including the Olympics.  I haven't watched any of that crap in years except in passing at one of my brother's homes.  They watch it be even they're getting tired of this Social Just Us Warrior crap.


Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: SF1900 on September 23, 2017, 09:03:54 PM
I don't buy it.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Albert_Schweitzer

Misattributed[edit]
I have given my life to try to alleviate the sufferings of Africa. There is something that all white men who have lived here like I must learn and know: that these individuals are a sub-race. They have neither the intellectual, mental, or emotional abilities to equate or to share equally with white men in any function of our civilization. I have given my life to try to bring them the advantages which our civilization must offer, but I have become well aware that we must retain this status: the superior and they the inferior. For whenever a white man seeks to live among them as their equals they will either destroy him or devour him. And they will destroy all of his work. Let white men from anywhere in the world, who would come to Africa, remember that you must continually retain this status; you the master and they the inferior like children that you would help or teach. Never fraternize with them as equals. Never accept them as your social equals or they will devour you. They will destroy you.
This has usually been presented as something "said shortly before his death" without any definite source, but appears to be entirely spurious. The "FAQ about the life and thoughts of Albert Schweitzer" asserts "This quote is utterly false and is an outrageously inaccurate picture of Dr. Schweitzer’s view of Africans. Dr. Schweitzer never said or wrote anything remotely like this. It does NOT appear in the book African Notebook." This refers to some citations of it being from Afrikanische Geschichten (1938), which was translated as From My African Notebook (1939) by Mrs. C. E. B Russell

Apparently there are enough sources to say that Dr. Schweitzer never wrote that paragraph.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: calfzilla on September 23, 2017, 09:04:55 PM
I've never watched an NFL game apparently I wasn't missing anything
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: The Scott on September 23, 2017, 09:12:33 PM
I've never watched an NFL game apparently I wasn't missing anything

I couldn't even make it through to half time in the '60s and sports were a rarity on the tube back then.  Boring.  Baseball is too but it's well suited to radio and still I can hardly watch the stuff.  The NBA used to be good but that was 40+ years ago.  Now it sucks.

Buncha thugs.
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 23, 2017, 09:58:46 PM
I don't buy it.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Albert_Schweitzer

Misattributed[edit]
I have given my life to try to alleviate the sufferings of Africa. There is something that all white men who have lived here like I must learn and know: that these individuals are a sub-race. They have neither the intellectual, mental, or emotional abilities to equate or to share equally with white men in any function of our civilization. I have given my life to try to bring them the advantages which our civilization must offer, but I have become well aware that we must retain this status: the superior and they the inferior. For whenever a white man seeks to live among them as their equals they will either destroy him or devour him. And they will destroy all of his work. Let white men from anywhere in the world, who would come to Africa, remember that you must continually retain this status; you the master and they the inferior like children that you would help or teach. Never fraternize with them as equals. Never accept them as your social equals or they will devour you. They will destroy you.
This has usually been presented as something "said shortly before his death" without any definite source, but appears to be entirely spurious. The "FAQ about the life and thoughts of Albert Schweitzer" asserts "This quote is utterly false and is an outrageously inaccurate picture of Dr. Schweitzer’s view of Africans. Dr. Schweitzer never said or wrote anything remotely like this. It does NOT appear in the book African Notebook." This refers to some citations of it being from Afrikanische Geschichten (1938), which was translated as From My African Notebook (1939) by Mrs. C. E. B Russell

You maybe correct. From what I read it was removed from later editions but that info came from only one source.

Here is a quote that multiple sources agree on.

"When long-resident natives of the district expressed discontent at being ruled by white men, I answer that they without white men would no longer be in existance".






Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 23, 2017, 11:44:31 PM
I can watch it live or on television.

But besides that, haven't you noticed that NHL players get in the least amount of trouble out of all the major sports. Its been like this for a good number of years. Hockey players just do their thing--they don't cause trouble or any of that shit.

That's cuz they white.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: dj181 on September 24, 2017, 02:39:32 AM
Joon everything about you is boring

come to Poland and i'll prove to you i aint this joon turd

but youll end up with a broken jaw most likely  ;)
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 24, 2017, 04:07:04 AM
I couldn't even make it through to half time in the '60s and sports were a rarity on the tube back then.  Boring.  Baseball is too but it's well suited to radio and still I can hardly watch the stuff.  The NBA used to be good but that was 40+ years ago.  Now it sucks.

Buncha thugs.


Each team runs about 65 plays but most of the time is spent in the huddle and then coming to the line. The actual play only lasts about five seconds. So you have a grand total of about 10 to 15 minutes of action spread out over 3 1/2 hours.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: V Man on September 24, 2017, 04:41:32 AM
He acts like he's playing the part of a Wrestling heel.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Rami on September 24, 2017, 04:52:20 AM
Look at this fucking pussy then..

(http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/66/15/41/14211191/5/920x920.jpg)
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: Griffith on September 24, 2017, 05:01:09 AM
You maybe correct. From what I read it was removed from later editions but that info came from only one source.

Here is a quote that multiple sources agree on.

"When long-resident natives of the district expressed discontent at being ruled by white men, I answer that they without white men would no longer be in existance".








Everything in Africa has gotten worse under black leadership, so to an extent there is some truth.

South Africa, Rhodesia, Angola, Mozambique...
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Griffith on September 24, 2017, 05:02:24 AM
Look at this fucking pussy then..

(http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/66/15/41/14211191/5/920x920.jpg)

What an attention whore, fans should boycott the games and switch off their tv's to boycott those teams.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: hp31 on September 24, 2017, 05:21:25 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKfP6rYXoAIRWiz.jpg)
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 24, 2017, 06:00:00 AM
The reason liberals act like Trump is kissing the asses of neo-Nazis and white supremacists is merely a matter of projection. Libs just can't get black cock out their mouths, and have a complete cognitive dissonance  about the fact that black inner cities are in a state of collapse.


Killings up in Baton Rouge, with homicide totals this year already outpacing 2016 totals | Crime/Police | theadvocate.com


http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/crime_police/article_44d79004-8f63-11e7-ae9e-237f911ccca4.html


Baton Rouge demographics:

According to the 2010 the racial makeup of the city was 50.4% Black or African American, 40.8% White, 0.5% Native American, 3.5% Asian, and 1.3% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino were 3.5% of the population. Non-Hispanic Whites were 37.8% of the population,[39] down from 70.5% in 1970.[40]


Everything in Africa has gotten worse under black leadership, so to an extent there is some truth.

South Africa, Rhodesia, Angola, Mozambique...


So has every single American city that is predominantly black. Of course, it's racist to not make believe that this isn't the case.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 24, 2017, 06:51:23 AM
Look at this fucking pussy then..

(http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/66/15/41/14211191/5/920x920.jpg)

The Oakland Athletics tweeted a statement in support of players who kneel during the national anthem moments after a player on the team became the first major league baseball player to do so.

"The Oakland A's pride ourselves on being inclusive. We respect and support all of our players' constitutional rights and freedom of expression," the team tweeted Saturday.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 24, 2017, 08:14:30 AM
LeBron James called trump a bum. Hahaha.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 24, 2017, 08:23:48 AM
The funny thing, is that Stephen Curry already said he wasn't going to the White House. Then, Trump, feeling hurt, said, "Well, you're disinvited anyway." But Curry already said he wasn't going. That's like the 4th grader who throws a party, no one shows up, then says, "Well, I didn't want any of you there anyway."  :D :D
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 24, 2017, 08:30:44 AM
Sounds more like a lot of butt hurt Hollywood types and professional athletes who can't handle not having their asses kissed to the same extent anymore.

Shit happens fast in the Internet era. How many people still have a BlackBerry?
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Simple Simon on September 24, 2017, 08:31:07 AM
The funny thing, is that Stephen Curry already said he wasn't going to the White House. Then, Trump, feeling hurt, said, "Well, you're disinvited anyway." But Curry already said he wasn't going. That's like the 4th grader who throws a party, no one shows up, then says, "Well, I didn't want any of you there anyway."  :D :D

it isn't the same thing at all.
It would have been the same if he didn't turn up at the Whitehouse and Trump said "I didn't want him here anyway"
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 24, 2017, 08:39:32 AM
Sounds more like a lot of butt hurt Hollywood types and professional athletes who can't handle not having their asses kissed to the same extent anymore.

Shit happens fast in the Internet era. How many people still have a BlackBerry?

Baseball has even caught on--though, not too sure if this is new for MLB players.

I wonder if the NHL will catch on. I highly doubt it.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Griffith on September 24, 2017, 09:02:11 AM
They have freedom of expression...but what exactly are they protesting?

They might not like Trump and his policies, but he won a democratic election, and thankfully for the USA they are not a one-party dominant state, so there's a realistic chance of change in the next elections.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Rami on September 24, 2017, 09:05:49 AM
The NFL has joined Hollywood now and is nothing more than an entertainment platform for political activism and social justice warrior bullshit. So meaningless.

Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Parker on September 24, 2017, 09:06:30 AM
They have freedom of expression...but what exactly are they protesting?

They might not like Trump and his policies, but he won a democratic election, and thankfully for the USA they are not a one-party dominant state, so there's a realistic chance of change in the next elections.

This was originally about police brutality, not against the military.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 24, 2017, 09:08:04 AM
They have freedom of expression...but what exactly are they protesting?

They might not like Trump and his policies, but he won a democratic election, and thankfully for the USA they are not a one-party dominant state, so there's a realistic chance of change in the next elections.

They really aren't protesting Trumps presidential win.

This really all started with protesting against officers killing black people. From there, it just gained momentum. At this point, it seems like it exploded down many different avenues.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 24, 2017, 09:11:19 AM
This was originally about police brutality, not against the military.

Yes it was about playing make-believe that these areas could be controlled by any other means other than very aggressive policing. We found that to be bullshit.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160113/loop/chicago-police-street-stops-decrease-dramatically-amid-sinking-morale.amp


CHICAGO — Police officers are making drastically fewer investigative stops and confiscating fewer guns as murders and shootings have increased so far this year, DNAinfo Chicago has learned.

So far this year, the number of so-called investigative stop reports — formerly known as “contact cards” — has decreased by about 80 percent compared to the same time period last year, police sources told DNAinfo Chicago.



Violent weekend leaves 11 dead as city marks 500 homicides - Chicago Tribune

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-shootings-violence-homicides-20170918-story,amp.html


Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 24, 2017, 09:12:50 AM
Players took a knee from both Carolina and Baltimore in London when they played our anthem, it their choice and it's the owners choice to do what they see fit.....what isn't alright is standing for another countries anthem in their own country.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 24, 2017, 09:14:06 AM
The NFL has joined Hollywood now and is nothing more than an entertainment platform for political activism and social justice warrior bullshit. So meaningless.



I think its important, though it is just my suggestion, that people stop using the word "Social Justice" in a negative light. Social Justice/Activism has been around for a long time, even before the word became tainted by Progressives! Social Justice/Activism takes many forms and not ALL people engage in Social Activism in this manner.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 24, 2017, 09:15:09 AM
Players took a knee from both Carolina and Baltimore in London when they played our anthem, it their choice and it's the owners choice to do what they see fit.....what isn't alright is standing for another countries anthem in their own country.

That is just your opinion.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 24, 2017, 09:16:19 AM
That is just your opinion.

That just tells me they don't know the difference between right and wrong.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Parker on September 24, 2017, 09:17:53 AM
Hey wait a minute, weren't people complaining about Obama publicly interjecting his thoughts on various social justice issues-like with Trayvon Martin? And now, we have Trump publicly interjecting his thoughts  on the kneeling of NFL players which stems from a Social Justice and First Admendment issue? Yet right leaning folks are ok with this?
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 24, 2017, 09:20:35 AM
Hey wait a minute, weren't people complaining about Obama publicly interjecting his thoughts on various social justice issues-like with Trayvon Martin? And now, we have Trump publicly interjecting his thoughts  on the kneeling of NFL players which stems from a Social Justice and First Admendment issue? Yet right leaning folks are ok with this?

 I'm ok with especially since the ENTIRE narrative are based on lies and leftist propaganda that people buy into
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: MCWAY on September 24, 2017, 09:22:55 AM
Hey wait a minute, weren't people complaining about Obama publicly interjecting his thoughts on various social justice issues-like with Trayvon Martin? And now, we have Trump publicly interjecting his thoughts  on the kneeling of NFL players which stems from a Social Justice and First Admendment issue? Yet right leaning folks are ok with this?

Obama didn't have all the facts and was sucking up to the family of a delinquent (suspended from school for the nth time for FIGHTING and got killed doing the same crap). Trump is the president and is standing up for this flag that symbolizes this country.

Defending our country and its flag vs. defending a dope-smoking thug. NO contest there.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 24, 2017, 09:23:40 AM
That just tells me they don't know the difference between right and wrong.

Yes, I do.

Killing is wrong.
Child molestation is wrong.
Cheating on your wife is wrong.
Robbing someone is wrong.
Physical abuse is wrong.
Etc, etc, etc, etc.

There you go.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Parker on September 24, 2017, 09:28:00 AM
Obama didn't have all the facts and was sucking up to the family of a delinquent (suspended from school for the nth time for FIGHTING and got killed doing the same crap). Trump is the president and is standing up for this flag that symbolizes this country.

Defending our country and its flag vs. defending a dope-smoking thug. NO contest there.

To me, both presidents shouldn't be commenting, but they are/were exercising their first Admendment right, and consequences and repercussions will arise and still are arising because of that. Just like with Colin.  
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: MCWAY on September 24, 2017, 09:33:29 AM
To me, both presidents shouldn't be commenting, but they are/were exercising their first Admendment right, and consequences and repercussions will arise and still are arising because of that. Just like with Colin. 

I guess the social justice warriors missed last season's games, showing that Kapernick was just 1-7 as a starter, throwing picks left and right last season. He lost the job in camp; the other guy stunk up the joint. Kapernick got another chance and was utter garbage.

And, if I'm not mistaken, he walked out on the 49ers after they tried to renegotiate his contract.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 24, 2017, 09:38:15 AM
Yes, I do.

Killing is wrong.
Child molestation is wrong.
Cheating on your wife is wrong.
Robbing someone is wrong.
Physical abuse is wrong.
Etc, etc, etc, etc.

There you go.

But you're ok with protests of false narratives derived from the Obama administration for 7 years in order to do this and divide the country even more?
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Parker on September 24, 2017, 09:38:31 AM
I guess the social justice warriors missed last season's games, showing that Kapernick was just 1-7 as a starter, throwing picks left and right last season. He lost the job in camp; the other guy stunk up the joint. Kapernick got another chance and was utter garbage.

And, if I'm not mistaken, he walked out on the 49ers after they tried to renegotiate his contract.
SJWs don't care about facts.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 24, 2017, 09:57:03 AM
I think its important, though it is just my suggestion, that people stop using the word "Social Justice" in a negative light. Social Justice/Activism has been around for a long time, even before the word became tainted by Progressives! Social Justice/Activism takes many forms and not ALL people engage in Social Activism in this manner.


 Whenever there is an adjective added to an important value based noun there's an agenda. There is democracy, not peoples democracy. Whenever you had a people's democracy you know you didn't have democracy. Out of curiosity, what is the difference between social justice and justice? There is justice or there is injustice, there isn't justice and social justice. Social justice means left wing equality, that's what it means. It is a substitute for the term equality. So there is no social justice if there are rich and poor. Rich and poor is definitionally social injustice. It's not injustice, liberals don't even know why you use the term. Justice has no problem with there being rich and poor, social justice has a problem with there being rich and poor. If the rich got rich justly there is no problem with it. Do not favor the poor in judgment, favoring the poor is social justice. It's injustice to favor the poor. Social justice has nothing to do with justice, nothing. It distorts it in the name of the egalitarian ideal that motivates the left.

Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Tennisballz on September 24, 2017, 10:01:54 AM
Its pretty simple.  You either agree with what the NFL is doing or you dont.  If you agree then watch the games.  If you dont agree, dont watch them.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 24, 2017, 10:03:44 AM
But you're ok with protests of false narratives derived from the Obama administration for 7 years in order to do this and divide the country even more?

But, that is not what you said. You made a general statement that I did not know the difference from right and wrong. I clearly pointed out many instances where it was wrong to do something. Thus, I clearly know the difference between right and wrong--your initial premise was that I did not know the difference between right and wrong.  A more appropriate statement would have been that "I do not know the difference between right and wrong when it comes to political issues." So, do I know the difference between right or wrong?  ??? ??? ???

I am not big on saying whether police corruption concerning minorities is either a "False" or "True" narrative--I rarely, if ever, categorize social issues into binary categories. I believe most issues, including social issues, fall along a continuum. With that said, there have been independent investigations that have proved racial biases among police departments (not ALL police departments). On the other hand, there are many police departments that do a wonderful job. I'd be more apt to discuss racial biases and police brutality along a continuum, instead of discussing whether it is 100% false or 100% true--it is ignorant to reduce the complexity of human behavior to binary classifications.

I never stated whether I supported or disagreed with their protesting. You assumed that I did not know the difference between right and wrong because I said to you, "That is your opinion." That in no way infers whether or not I agree or disagree with your statement or sport players protesting. You assumed, as you always do.





Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 24, 2017, 10:13:03 AM

 Whenever there is an adjective added to an important value based noun there's an agenda. There is democracy, not peoples democracy. Whenever you had a people's democracy you know you didn't have democracy. Out of curiosity, what is the difference between social justice and justice? There is justice or there is injustice, there isn't justice and social justice. Social justice means left wing equality, that's what it means. It is a substitute for the term equality. So there is no social justice if there are rich and poor. Rich and poor is definitionally social injustice. It's not injustice, liberals don't even know why you use the term. Justice has no problem with there being rich and poor, social justice has a problem with there being rich and poor. If the rich got rich justly there is no problem with it. Do not favor the poor in judgment, favoring the poor is social justice. It's injustice to favor the poor. Social justice has nothing to do with justice, nothing. It distorts it in the name of the egalitarian ideal that motivates the left.



I don't care what word you use, Social Justice or Justice. My point was that social justice or justice takes MANY forms, beyond racial justice. Thus, my main point, is that when one hears the word "Justice" or "Social Justice" people automatically assume you're talking about equality in terms of race and/or economics. Nothing in my statement indicated so. Again, my point was that when people hear the words "Social Justice" or "Justice" they automatically view it in a negative light and assume one is talking about equality in terms of race; justice, social justice, or whatever other word you want to use, can take on many forms. Unfortunately, given today's agenda, those words, either together or separate, have taken on a negative connotation--I blame the Progressives for that.

I was/am actively engaged in many forms of "Social Justice" or "Justice." (I don't care what word you use). When people hear this, they automatically assume one thing: that I am advocating or trying to fix racial inequality (the narrative put forth by Progressives). The word Justice/Social Justice has automatically been linked to racial inequality, which is really a narrow meaning of the word.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 24, 2017, 10:25:59 AM
But, that is not what you said. You made a general statement that I did not know the difference from right and wrong. I clearly pointed out many instances where it was wrong to do something. Thus, I clearly know the difference between right and wrong--your initial premise was that I did not know the difference between right and wrong.  A more appropriate statement would have been that "I do not know the difference between right and wrong when it comes to political issues." So, do I know the difference between right or wrong?  ??? ??? ???

I am not big on saying whether police corruption concerning minorities is either a "False" or "True" narrative--I rarely, if ever, categorize social issues into binary categories. I believe most issues, including social issues, fall along a continuum. With that said, there have been independent investigations that have proved racial biases among police departments (not ALL police departments). On the other hand, there are many police departments that do a wonderful job. I'd be more apt to discuss racial biases and police brutality along a continuum, instead of discussing whether it is 100% false or 100% true--it is ignorant to reduce the complexity of human behavior to binary classifications.

I never stated whether I supported or disagreed with their protesting. You assumed that I did not know the difference between right and wrong because I said to you, "That is your opinion." That in no way infers whether or not I agree or disagree with your statement or sport players protesting. You assumed, as you always do.







There are racial biases for a reason. Do you see arabs, asians, indians etc. crying about being profiled for the color of their skin? They're a minority are they not? Blacks are racially profiled because they commit the most crime. More unarmed whites are killed by cops then blacks not to mention they chimp out even if they were armed. This last shooting I believe in St. Louis for example. A fucking herion dealer in possesion of a gun.

(https://i.imgur.com/tOTcCRH_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

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Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Royalty on September 24, 2017, 10:27:42 AM
Hey wait a minute, weren't people complaining about Obama publicly interjecting his thoughts on various social justice issues-like with Trayvon Martin? And now, we have Trump publicly interjecting his thoughts  on the kneeling of NFL players which stems from a Social Justice and First Admendment issue? Yet right leaning folks are ok with this?

I think that a lot of middle class people view the NFL athletes as millionaires that only care about themselves.

I'm not saying that NFL athletes are that way; but I hear regular middle-class people saying things along those lines.

Trump is echoing that belief via twitter.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 24, 2017, 10:29:43 AM
There are racial biases for a reason. Do you see arabs, asians, indians etc. crying about being profiled for the color of their skin? They're a minority are they not? Blacks are racially profiled because they commit the most crime. More unarmed whites are killed by cops then blacks not to mention they chimp out even if they were armed. This last shooting I believe in St. Louis for example. A fucking herion dealer in possesion of a gun.

(https://i.imgur.com/tOTcCRH_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

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I never stated that racial biases did not exist.  ??? ??? I simply stated that people's narratives are their own subjective experience. Given the nature of subjectivity, I hardly ever put things into binary classification.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 24, 2017, 10:36:49 AM
If the NFL was smart they would do what the NBA did a long time ago, and make all forms of political expression on league time a violation of the player code of conduct and punishable. The NBA has been dealing with nogs a lot longer so they know whats up. They actually do a much better job of turning dindus into semi-respectable members of society than any other league.

If the NFL continues to pander to marxists like this its unlikely they will die as a league, however it will knock them down several pegs and wake up alot more people to whats going on.

Addiction to sportsball is one of the top three worst things in the West.

Anything a president can do to ween the masses off of goofball television is purely positive.

Getting millions to recognize television, sport, and entertainment as the disgusting things they are, filled with disgusting people who aren't worth your attention.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Royalty on September 24, 2017, 10:51:04 AM
If the NFL was smart they would do what the NBA did a long time ago, and make all forms of political expression on league time a violation of the player code of conduct and punishable. The NBA has been dealing with nogs a lot longer so they know whats up. They actually do a much better job of turning dindus into semi-respectable members of society than any other league.

If the NFL continues to pander to marxists like this its unlikely they will die as a league, however it will knock them down several pegs and wake up alot more people to whats going on.

Addiction to sportsball is one of the top three worst things in the West.

Anything a president can do to ween the masses off of goofball television is purely positive.

Getting millions to recognize television, sport, and entertainment as the disgusting things they are, filled with disgusting people who aren't worth your attention.

Those things were once good. But talent and decency and originality are in short supply these days.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 24, 2017, 11:30:50 AM
I don't care what word you use, Social Justice or Justice. My point was that social justice or justice takes MANY forms, beyond racial justice. Thus, my main point, is that when one hears the word "Justice" or "Social Justice" people automatically assume you're talking about equality in terms of race and/or economics. Nothing in my statement indicated so. Again, my point was that when people hear the words "Social Justice" or "Justice" they automatically view it in a negative light and assume one is talking about equality in terms of race; justice, social justice, or whatever other word you want to use, can take on many forms. Unfortunately, given today's agenda, those words, either together or separate, have taken on a negative connotation--I blame the Progressives for that.

What the fuck is racial justice? People are correct in assuming you are talking about economic and racial equality because that's what social justice is as I explained. It has a negative connotation because it's fucking Communism. Are you a marxist?




Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 24, 2017, 11:39:38 AM
There are racial biases for a reason. Do you see arabs, asians, indians etc. crying about being profiled for the color of their skin? They're a minority are they not? Blacks are racially profiled because they commit the most crime. More unarmed whites are killed by cops then blacks not to mention they chimp out even if they were armed. This last shooting I believe in St. Louis for example. A fucking herion dealer in possesion of a gun.

(https://i.imgur.com/tOTcCRH_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

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The media essentially ignored the black lives matter protests on this one largely because they couldn't make  the perp out to be a choirboy as he had an extensive criminal record.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Parker on September 24, 2017, 11:57:25 AM
If the NFL was smart they would do what the NBA did a long time ago, and make all forms of political expression on league time a violation of the player code of conduct and punishable. The NBA has been dealing with nogs a lot longer so they know whats up. They actually do a much better job of turning dindus into semi-respectable members of society than any other league.

If the NFL continues to pander to marxists like this its unlikely they will die as a league, however it will knock them down several pegs and wake up alot more people to whats going on.

Addiction to sportsball is one of the top three worst things in the West.

Anything a president can do to ween the masses off of goofball television is purely positive.

Getting millions to recognize television, sport, and entertainment as the disgusting things they are, filled with disgusting people who aren't worth your attention.
You, you mean that "The Apprentice" is not worth my attention?
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 24, 2017, 12:30:24 PM
What the fuck is racial justice? People are correct in assuming you are talking about economic and racial equality because that's what social justice is as I explained. It has a negative connotation because it's fucking Communism. Are you a marxist?






Social Justice/Justice takes many forms. They are incorrect for automatically assuming its only about racial and economic inequality. Perhaps that is what it was initially intended for, however, it entails many different things, especially in today's world.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: WalterWhite on September 24, 2017, 12:56:27 PM
The one Pittsburg player to stand for the anthem.  Alejandro Villanueva played for Army and was an Army Ranger.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Nails on September 24, 2017, 12:57:37 PM
You son of bitches stand say the national anthem every single day before clocking in to work? Or do you fagggots jus clock in and get to working like scumbags?

Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 24, 2017, 12:58:29 PM
Social Justice/Justice takes many forms.

Bullshit, there is only justice or injustice.


Perhaps that is what it was initially intended for, however, it entails many different things.


Cultural marxism was created by the frankfurt school to destroy western civilization.

(https://redgreenalliancedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/frankfurt-school-11-point-plan.jpg?w=670&h=389)
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 24, 2017, 01:02:48 PM
Bullshit, there is only justice or injustice.

 

Cultural marxism was created by the frankfurt school to destroy western civilization.

(https://redgreenalliancedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/frankfurt-school-11-point-plan.jpg?w=670&h=389)

Okay, fine, we can use the word "Justice." I really don't care what words you use.

So, we can say that Justice takes on many forms, other than racial and/or economic inequality.

And that those who advocate for Justice, can do so on different levels, and automatically assuming the word "Justice" equates to racial and/or economic equality, is erroneous.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 24, 2017, 01:15:05 PM
STATEMENT FROM THE PLAYERS OF THE SEATTLE SEAHAWKS:

“As a team, we have decided we will not participate in the national anthem. We will not stand for the injustice that has plagued people of color in this country.Out of love for our country and in honor of the sacrifices made on our behalf,we unite to oppose those that would deny our most basic freedoms. We remain committed in continuing to work towards equality and justice for all.“

What a fucking joke.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: ratherbebig on September 24, 2017, 01:17:28 PM
why is there an anthem? its not in the ufc

Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Nails on September 24, 2017, 01:27:06 PM
I went to a volleyball tournament in Manhattan beach and there was no national anthem played.

Also saw a bowling competition on ESPN no national anthem played.

Strange
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: dj181 on September 24, 2017, 01:30:07 PM
I went to a volleyball tournament in Manhattan beach and there was no national anthem played.

Also saw a bowling competition on ESPN no national anthem played.

Strange

was katilyn around  ???
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 24, 2017, 01:38:34 PM
I went to a volleyball tournament in Manhattan beach and there was no national anthem played.

Also saw a bowling competition on ESPN no national anthem played.

Strange

Ive been asking this question on getbig for a long time and have not received a justified response. Shizzo said its because some sport players have been part of the military. I have worked with some people who have been part of the military and they don't stand for the anthem before they enter work. I will often hear people say, "Well, they are paying respect to the flag because freedom allows them to play football." But, freedom also allows me to go to work every day.

And, as you said, they didn't stand for the anthem before the volleyball tournament. So, why certain sports?

The real reason the NFL cares about the national anthem is for public relations matter. Good PR = more people watch = more money. That is what they care about. The NFL doesn't give a damn about our military--like most organizations, every move the NFL makes is to increase revenue. And, that is fine, but its rather tiresome when the NFL tries to pretend that they actually care about the military.   ::) ::)
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: WalterWhite on September 24, 2017, 01:42:57 PM
STATEMENT FROM THE PLAYERS OF THE SEATTLE SEAHAWKS:

“As a team, we have decided we will not participate in the national anthem. We will not stand for the injustice that has plagued people of color in this country.Out of love for our country and in honor of the sacrifices made on our behalf,we unite to oppose those that would deny our most basic freedoms. We remain committed in continuing to work towards equality and justice for all.“

What a fucking joke.

Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 24, 2017, 01:48:24 PM
I went to a volleyball tournament in Manhattan beach and there was no national anthem played.

Also saw a bowling competition on ESPN no national anthem played.

Strange

Personally, I don't give a fuck if they play the national anthem before stupid football games or any other game. The issue is a bunch of pampered athletes bitching and moaning about injustices that don't even fucking exist. Where exactly are the basic personal freedoms being denied? They can't point to a single example of institutional racism that currently exists in this country.


The real issue is the failure of black culture in this country, both socially and economically.

Here's another newsflash. If they stopped playing the national anthem tomorrow they'll find something else to bitch about.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 24, 2017, 01:49:43 PM
Ive been asking this question on getbig for a long time and have not received a justified response. Shizzo said its because some sport players have been part of the military. I have worked with some people who have been part of the military and they don't stand for the anthem before they enter work. I will often hear people say, "Well, they are paying respect to the flag because freedom allows them to play football." But, freedom also allows me to go to work every day.

And, as you said, they didn't stand for the anthem before the volleyball tournament. So, why certain sports.

The real reason the NFL cares about the national anthem is for public relations matter. Good PR = more people watch = more money. That is what they care about. The NFL doesn't give a damn about our military--like most organizations, every move the NFL makes is to increase revenue. And, that is fine, but its rather tiresome when the NFL tries to pretend that they actually care about the military.   ::) ::)

You clearly don't recognize sarcasm retard.

It's obvious the NFL doesn't give a shit. They have to cater to their players which make up 70% of the league.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/24/multiple-people-shot-at-tennessee-church-police-say.html

Wake up white people.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 24, 2017, 01:54:08 PM
You clearly don't recognize sarcasm retard.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/24/multiple-people-shot-at-tennessee-church-police-say.html

Wake up white people.

Nails was not being sarcastic. Ive spoke with him about this similar topic via PM in the past.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 24, 2017, 01:57:30 PM
Nails was not being sarcastic. Ive spoke with him about this similar topic via PM in the past.

Than you both suffer from retardation.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 24, 2017, 01:59:40 PM
Than you both suffer from retardation.

Why are national anthems sang before a sporting event?
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: The True Adonis on September 24, 2017, 02:01:56 PM
Why are national anthems sang before a sporting event?
Rap Music would be more appropriate for the NFL anyways.

I find it amusing that so many fat white people glue themselves to their TV sets in order to watch black criminals chase each other around for millions of dollars to zero benefit for themselves.


The whole thing is a farce.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Griffith on September 24, 2017, 02:02:53 PM
Americans should boycott those teams, without the fans watching and buying merchandise and tickets and empty stadiums those players and their teams are nothing.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: The True Adonis on September 24, 2017, 02:05:38 PM
Americans should boycott those teams, without the fans watching and buying merchandise and tickets and empty stadiums those players and their teams are nothing.
Americans should have boycotted it 30 years ago to be honest.

Its done no good for society whatsoever.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: BodyMachine on September 24, 2017, 02:09:24 PM
And, that is fine, but its rather tiresome when the NFL tries to pretend that they actually care about the military.   ::) ::)
Exactly so fck them
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: BodyMachine on September 24, 2017, 02:09:55 PM
Americans should have boycotted it 30 years ago to be honest.

Its done no good for society whatsoever.
X2
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 24, 2017, 02:10:44 PM
Americans should have boycotted it 30 years ago to be honest.

Its done no good for society whatsoever.

You were right all along.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 24, 2017, 02:29:11 PM
Why are national anthems sang before a sporting event?

It's tradition when it comes to football and baseball. I'm not a sports fan at least with anything involving a ball nor am I a historian so I'm the wrong person to ask.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: The True Adonis on September 24, 2017, 02:39:32 PM
You were right all along.
I usually am.  I have more Plutonium than Emmett Brown.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: chaos on September 24, 2017, 02:44:18 PM
Personally, I don't give a fuck if they play the national anthem before stupid football games or any other game. The issue is a bunch of pampered athletes bitching and moaning about injustices that don't even fucking exist. Where exactly are the basic personal freedoms being denied? They can't point to a single example of institutional racism that currently exists in this country.


The real issue is the failure of black culture in this country, both socially and economically.

Here's another newsflash. If they stopped playing the national anthem tomorrow they'll find something else to bitch about.
^^^^
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: MCWAY on September 24, 2017, 03:52:38 PM
Americans should boycott those teams, without the fans watching and buying merchandise and tickets and empty stadiums those players and their teams are nothing.

It appears they are, in some cases. Look at Godell and the rest of the media nuts, slobbering over Los Angeles. They were obsessed with getting L.A. a team. Now they have two and few care about either one of them. The Chargers play in a small soccer stadium and they can't even fill that out. The sad part in today's game is that almost half the fans there are CHIEFS fans.

Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Dan-O on September 24, 2017, 03:58:51 PM
If Karl Marx were alive today, he might have said "professional sports is the opiate of the masses."
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Royalty on September 24, 2017, 05:10:39 PM
Cincinnati Bengals team statement:

https://twitter.com/ctrent/status/912057431139786752/photo/1


Some media outlets consider this ^^^ statement to be "weak".


Whatever, the Bengals have the right to say whatever they want too.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 24, 2017, 05:34:50 PM
At this point, if you are a white person that supports the NFL or NBA....you are a fucking fool and a cuck.

Fuck the NFL for life.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 24, 2017, 06:28:41 PM
At this point, if you are a white person that supports the NFL or NBA....you are a fucking fool and a cuck.

Fuck the NFL for life.

x2
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 24, 2017, 06:31:11 PM
Alejandro Villanueva, Army Ranger, Veteran, Bronze Star recipient.

The only member of the Pittsburgh Steelers that refused to stay in the locker room for the National Anthem.  Remember his name.

(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21765193_1880837465565717_551951439627012252_n.jpg?oh=acb63b19d216cc616862b8a2370b2dbc&oe=5A5B0DEB)
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Dan-O on September 24, 2017, 06:41:27 PM
Alejandro Villanueva, Army Ranger, Veteran, Bronze Star recipient.

The only member of the Pittsburgh Steelers that refused to stay in the locker room for the National Anthem.  Remember his name.

(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21765193_1880837465565717_551951439627012252_n.jpg?oh=acb63b19d216cc616862b8a2370b2dbc&oe=5A5B0DEB)

God bless him.  He's part of a dying breed.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Kwon on September 24, 2017, 06:42:05 PM
Alejandro Villanueva, Army Ranger, Veteran, Bronze Star recipient.

The only member of the Pittsburgh Steelers that refused to stay in the locker room for the National Anthem.  Remember his name.

(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21765193_1880837465565717_551951439627012252_n.jpg?oh=acb63b19d216cc616862b8a2370b2dbc&oe=5A5B0DEB)

Praise this man!
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: IRON CROSS on September 24, 2017, 07:14:48 PM
How can anyone not love our dear President!



Should be International prez  ;)
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: WalterWhite on September 24, 2017, 07:54:25 PM
Alejandro Villanueva, Army Ranger, Veteran, Bronze Star recipient.

The only member of the Pittsburgh Steelers that refused to stay in the locker room for the National Anthem.  Remember his name.

(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21765193_1880837465565717_551951439627012252_n.jpg?oh=acb63b19d216cc616862b8a2370b2dbc&oe=5A5B0DEB)

I will remember him because went to the same military college and I posted this on page 6.  Well your pic has better contrast. ;)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=636660.125
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 24, 2017, 08:14:41 PM
Alejandro Villanueva, Army Ranger, Veteran, Bronze Star recipient.

The only member of the Pittsburgh Steelers that refused to stay in the locker room for the National Anthem.  Remember his name.

(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21765193_1880837465565717_551951439627012252_n.jpg?oh=acb63b19d216cc616862b8a2370b2dbc&oe=5A5B0DEB)

Absolutely remember his name. Not just for his service but the fact at 6'9 he's one of the biggest in the NFL.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on September 24, 2017, 08:17:29 PM
Cincinnati Bengals team statement:

https://twitter.com/ctrent/status/912057431139786752/photo/1


Some media outlets consider this ^^^ statement to be "weak".


Whatever, the Bengals have the right to say whatever they want too.

They get it. That was a dead on statement.
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Post by: That_Dude on September 24, 2017, 08:35:41 PM
Absolutely remember his name. Not just for his service but the fact at 6'9 he's one of the biggest in the NFL.

At this point with most of these fools disrespecting the country by kneeling or worse staying in the locker room for the anthem I would say that Alejandro Villanueva is the one who is taking a stand against injustice. the injustice of these spoiled SJW athletes. I'm curious as to why when they hit a payday the first thing they do is move out of the hood. why not stay and be the change you want to see? they Dindu that though
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Post by: WalterWhite on September 24, 2017, 08:59:54 PM
This speaks for itself.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on September 24, 2017, 09:26:18 PM
" I'm curious as to why when they hit a payday the first thing they do is move out of the hood. why not stay and be the change you want to see?" they Dindu that though

I work with quite a few kids from the inner city, get quite a few when they play their last college games then come to me for Combine prep. You do have some that are very smart that come from oppression like Richard Sherman that's a Stanford grad and MANY others. For most they have a couple of choices, football or stay in hood, deal drugs, get arrested and the chances of them getting killed is high. Football is their way out. But just because they don't live there doesn't mean they don't give back to their communities. They absolutely do.

Now, on the other side of that. I have 7 players in the NFL, all linemen all Samoan. 4 of them still live on American Samoa. Last off season I took them to the high school where I coach. We have a nice big weightroom, 10 racks and platforms plus all of the amenities, a brand new turf field, etc. Honest to God one player started sobbing wishing they could have on Samoa what we have here. With them, it's God, Family and football on that order. Not only do they give back but most live on the island. Next year one of ofbthe players agents and him invited me to back with them for about week for clinics. If you don't know already, Samoans are incredible athletes but most of their fields are dirt and weeds. Incidentally, they all send more than half back to their families on the island.
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Post by: calfzilla on September 24, 2017, 09:27:33 PM
Why don't they refuse to cash their paychecks until social change they want is made?

There are hundreds of ways they could protest and use their status to make positive changes but they choose to take the easy way out and shit on the flag and all it stands for.  Pussies.

Props to the real men on the teams who show respect to the flag, especially when they are the only one.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on September 24, 2017, 09:30:38 PM
This was my FB post on this..

"Pretty simple. The left are going say their protests are for racial equality to stand against racism. The right are calling this a blatant disrespect of flag and country.

They have the right to protest, owners have the right to protect their investments. Anyone with any business sense whatsoever can figure this out. How about leveling a $100k fine per occurrence to each player that decides to draw attention to their team, causing ticket and viewership to drop. Problem fucking solved."
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Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 24, 2017, 10:54:33 PM
This was my FB post on this..

"Pretty simple. The left are going say their protests are for racial equality to stand against racism. The right are calling this a blatant disrespect of flag and country.

They have the right to protest, owners have the right to protect their investments. Anyone with any business sense whatsoever can figure this out. How about leveling a $100k fine per occurrence to each player that decides to draw attention to their team, causing ticket and viewership to drop. Problem fucking solved."


Dats raycisssss
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Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 24, 2017, 10:56:13 PM
The truth is the NFL and owners will do anything to get on the player's good sides.

In 10 years all the same guys will be suing for CTE and that will be the end of full contact football. Mark my words.
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Post by: Griffith on September 24, 2017, 11:15:04 PM
This was my FB post on this..

"Pretty simple. The left are going say their protests are for racial equality to stand against racism. The right are calling this a blatant disrespect of flag and country.

They have the right to protest, owners have the right to protect their investments. Anyone with any business sense whatsoever can figure this out. How about leveling a $100k fine per occurrence to each player that decides to draw attention to their team, causing ticket and viewership to drop. Problem fucking solved."

The fines could be used for charity, surely they wouldn't object  ;D
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Post by: SuperTed on September 25, 2017, 04:47:03 AM
Couple of points:

- Why have the national anthem before every game? What's the point?

- Who cares if someone refuses to stand for the anthem. Just let him express his freedom to do so and move on. He'd just feel foolish if nobody paid any attention to it.

- Why watch a sport in which almost 3 quarters of the players are black and be surprised that those players will show support towards black grievances?

- Trump shouldn't get involved with this crap.
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Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 25, 2017, 05:15:19 AM
Couple of points:

- Why have the national anthem before every game? What's the point?

- Who cares if someone refuses to stand for the anthem. Just let him express his freedom to do so and move on. He'd just feel foolish if nobody paid any attention to it.

- Why watch a sport in which almost 3 quarters of the players are black and be surprised that those players will show support towards black grievances?

- Trump shouldn't get involved with this crap.

1. Tradition. Not a particularly good answer, but that's the answer.

2. I agree. Had the media not made  a big deal out of it nobody would've even noticed.

3. There is absolutely no reason for white people to support the sport, anymore. These black grievances are bullshit and are merely cover for the abysmal failure of blacks as a group in civilized society.

4. Trump has a right to "express" himself just like these "oppressed" players. It's about time somebody stood up to these assholes and called them out on their bullshit. Who needs to be lectured by the demographic which has the greatest criminality rate on the face of the earth?



https://www.google.com/amp/s/nolacrimenews.com/2017/01/04/the-demographics-of-murder-in-new-orleans-2016/amp/

"The data on murder demographics came from NOPD’s homicide spreadsheet. There are three black men whose age/identity have not been publicly released. I assigned ages in their 20s for 2 of them and 30s for 1 to reflect a relatively normal distribution. I will update these figures as needed once identities are confirmed. Population data came from the Census 2015 estimates by race and gender.
Once again the murder rate for a black man in New Orleans is substantially higher than any other demographic group. The national murder rate in 2016 was roughly 5.3 per 100,000 meaning a black man in his 20s in New Orleans had a murder rate 60 times the national average."

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Post by: Desolate on September 25, 2017, 05:19:27 AM
"Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated."

- Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 25, 2017, 06:19:35 AM
The truth is the NFL and owners will do anything to get on the player's good sides.

In 10 years all the same guys will be suing for CTE and that will be the end of full contact football. Mark my words.

Agreed - the NFL is finished - just a matter of time now. 
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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 25, 2017, 06:20:07 AM
Couple of points:

- Why have the national anthem before every game? What's the point?

- Who cares if someone refuses to stand for the anthem. Just let him express his freedom to do so and move on. He'd just feel foolish if nobody paid any attention to it.

- Why watch a sport in which almost 3 quarters of the players are black and be surprised that those players will show support towards black grievances?

- Trump shouldn't get involved with this crap.

Funny you mentioned you why whites should watch black players.  Some of the biggest most racist parts of this country are also some of the biggest NFL fans.  I never understood why they hate blacks so much but love cheering for them and watching them play football.  Just look at the powerhouse College programs which are also in the biggest racist states in the country. These biggots hate dem neeegros but they love cheering when they score some touchdowns.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on September 25, 2017, 06:23:45 AM
x2

x10 -

The NBA is a complete joke

the NFL is a close second


F these people and the owners, and the thug players who want to shit on the fans paying $$$, etc 

The sooner these professional "sports" teams go away the better.   
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Post by: Pray_4_War on September 25, 2017, 06:48:42 AM
F these people and the owners, and the thug players who want to shit on the fans paying $$$, etc 

The sooner these professional "sports" teams go away the better.   

Amen!
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Shizzo on September 25, 2017, 07:02:13 AM
These idiots fail to realize that they are demonstrating on company time. In any other profession besides sports, they would be fired. An employer has the right to implement certain rules, regulations, and policies, in which the employee signs off on, when hired.

Most of these idiots have no idea why they are kneeling, interlocking arms etc....They are doing it because they are a bunch of followers and attention whores. Unfortunately, the players have the owners and the NFL by the balls on this.
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Post by: Marty Champions on September 25, 2017, 07:08:23 AM
fighting racism is key
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Post by: Coach is Back! on September 25, 2017, 07:18:45 AM
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Griffith on September 25, 2017, 07:39:46 AM
fighting racism is key

By kneeling because criminals are getting shot.
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Post by: SuperTed on September 25, 2017, 08:13:05 AM
Funny you mentioned you why whites should watch black players.  Some of the biggest most racist parts of this country are also some of the biggest NFL fans.  I never understood why they hate blacks so much but love cheering for them and watching them play football.  Just look at the powerhouse College programs which are also in the biggest racist states in the country. These biggots hate dem neeegros but they love cheering when they score some touchdowns.

It doesn't really make any sense. If I disliked blacks, the last I'd want to do is watch a sport in which they make up the majority of the players and cheer them on.

In Europe, there are some racist soccer fans (mostly Eastern Europeans) that don't want their teams signing black players. Here's also a video of an Israeli team who's fans became aggressive when their team signed some Muslim players. It's ugly, but at least they are being consistent with their beliefs. Anything else would be hypocritical. 

Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 25, 2017, 08:16:46 AM
These idiots fail to realize that they are demonstrating on company time. In any other profession besides sports, they would be fired. An employer has the right to implement certain rules, regulations, and policies, in which the employee signs off on, when hired.

Most of these idiots have no idea why they are kneeling, interlocking arms etc....They are doing it because they are a bunch of followers and attention whores. Unfortunately, the players have the owners and the NFL by the balls on this.

It all started with that fat ghetto POS Brown and the fake "Hands up - Don't Shoot" lie as well as Zimmerman / Trayvon episode.   In both matters - the race hustlers could not accept reality that their idolized victim was responsible for their own death,.   
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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 25, 2017, 08:23:15 AM
The Lions coach Jim Caldwell Tweeted "we don't have Son of Bitches in this league"

Really?  What about the guys beating their wives, getting caught with drugs and committing other crimes?  Don't act like all NFL players are innocent people.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on September 25, 2017, 08:25:55 AM
The Lions coach Jim Caldwell Tweeted "we don't have Son of Bitches in this league"

Really?  What about the guys beating their wives, getting caught with drugs and committing other crimes?  Don't act like all NFL players are innocent people.

 ;)

Actually - what about all the kids these fools have running around all over the country with no present fathers?   Cromartie has what 14 kids running around?  After 3 years - those who are even in the league are mostly broke and bankrupt and owe child support, end up on welfare, etc.   

Yeah - awesome example there Coach! 

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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 25, 2017, 08:28:24 AM
;)

Actually - what about all the kids these fools have running around all over the country with no present fathers?   Cromartie has what 14 kids running around?  After 3 years - those who are even in the league are mostly broke and bankrupt and owe child support, end up on welfare, etc.   

Yeah - awesome example there Coach! 


Cromartie has 14 kids with something like 13 different moms.  Imaging the child support this ass had to pay.  Pretty sure he hasn't paid any but hopefully the courts make him.  I bet almost all of those women are while whores
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Post by: SF1900 on September 25, 2017, 08:30:46 AM
Cromartie has 14 kids with something like 13 different moms.  Imaging the child support this ass had to pay.  Pretty sure he hasn't paid any but hopefully the courts make him.  I bet almost all of those women are while whores

Up until now, he has earned 47 million playing football. Lets hope he saved his pennies for his 10+ children.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 25, 2017, 08:32:47 AM
https://www.facebook.com/Tatumbug34/videos/1615723835164638/
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Post by: Ron on September 25, 2017, 10:14:25 AM
The NFL rule book specifically requires both teams appear on the field for the playing of the anthem, standing, remaining quiet, and holding their helmets in their left hands. Failure to do so can result in fines, suspensions, and the loss of draft picks. The rules are found on pages A62-63 of the league’s game operations manual:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.
During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 25, 2017, 10:43:39 AM
The NFL rule book specifically requires both teams appear on the field for the playing of the anthem, standing, remaining quiet, and holding their helmets in their left hands. Failure to do so can result in fines, suspensions, and the loss of draft picks. The rules are found on pages A62-63 of the league’s game operations manual:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.
During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.


The "fine print" states that they are required (MUST BE) to be on the sideline before  beginsthe national anthem, otherwise they are fined. Fine.

However, NOWHERE does it state that they are required to stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. It says that players "SHOULD" do these things. Using the word "should" may indicate an obligation (definition 1) or may indicate an expectation (definition 2). Are they "OBLIGATED" or "EXPECTED" to do these things (stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking)? The NFL needs to clarify.

The definition of "Should":

1) Used to indicate obligation, duty, or correctness.

2) Indicating a desirable or expected state.
 
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 25, 2017, 10:51:44 AM
But, that is not what you said. You made a general statement that I did not know the difference from right and wrong. I clearly pointed out many instances where it was wrong to do something. Thus, I clearly know the difference between right and wrong--your initial premise was that I did not know the difference between right and wrong.  A more appropriate statement would have been that "I do not know the difference between right and wrong when it comes to political issues." So, do I know the difference between right or wrong?  ??? ??? ???

I am not big on saying whether police corruption concerning minorities is either a "False" or "True" narrative--I rarely, if ever, categorize social issues into binary categories. I believe most issues, including social issues, fall along a continuum. With that said, there have been independent investigations that have proved racial biases among police departments (not ALL police departments). On the other hand, there are many police departments that do a wonderful job. I'd be more apt to discuss racial biases and police brutality along a continuum, instead of discussing whether it is 100% false or 100% true--it is ignorant to reduce the complexity of human behavior to binary classifications.

I never stated whether I supported or disagreed with their protesting. You assumed that I did not know the difference between right and wrong because I said to you, "That is your opinion." That in no way infers whether or not I agree or disagree with your statement or sport players protesting. You assumed, as you always do.







You're joking right? We're not talking about anything else BUT the title of this thread and the story behind it so it's implied.
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Post by: SF1900 on September 25, 2017, 10:53:50 AM
You're joking right? We're not talking about anything else BUT the title of this thread and the story behind it so it's implied.

When debating, I never assume anything is "implied." During any debate, its important to have all statements clarified, in order to produce a coherent, logical debate. You need to make your statements more refined.

Oh, and I was partly busting your chops about your statement because its fun seeing you meltdown. I knew you meant right and wrong regarding political issues.
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Post by: willdafrog on September 25, 2017, 10:56:08 AM
Steelers player who stood for national anthem has top-selling jersey


http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/25/news/companies/alejandro-villanueva-jersey-sales-steelers/index.html

Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 25, 2017, 10:56:19 AM
When debating, I never assume anything is "implied." During any debate, its important to have all statements clarified, in order to produce a coherent, logical debate. You need to make your statements more refined.

Oh, and I was partly busting your chops about your statement because its fun seeing you meltdown. I knew you meant right and wrong regarding political issues.

You should because  nothing else matters except the subject at hand
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 25, 2017, 10:56:55 AM
Steelers player who stood for national anthem has top-selling jersey


http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/25/news/companies/alejandro-villanueva-jersey-sales-steelers/index.html



Just posted this as a thread.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on September 25, 2017, 11:01:54 AM
Just posted this as a thread.

Which is silly too.  How many of the idiots buying this jersey can afford it or will wear it or are doing this out of emotion ? Money still going to the NFL who does not give a damn about its fans .

Best thing to do is boycott this sham organization all together.
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Post by: Powerlift66 on September 25, 2017, 11:25:39 AM
This country is absolutely embarrassing. Prez commenting on NFL and ratings, players acting like politicians.
Donald, you have plenty of other stuff to focus on, please shut up. Social justice oppressed athletes, collect your millions, please shut the feck up.
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Post by: Simple Simon on September 25, 2017, 11:39:40 AM
The NFL rule book specifically requires both teams appear on the field for the playing of the anthem, standing, remaining quiet, and holding their helmets in their left hands. Failure to do so can result in fines, suspensions, and the loss of draft picks. The rules are found on pages A62-63 of the league’s game operations manual:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.
During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.

thats a hoax Ron
Quote
In fact, the rulebook doesn’t mention the national anthem at all. The only section possibly relating to this situation is in regards to “Personal Messages” found on page 23, article 8.

The rule about personal messages states:

“Throughout the period on game-day that a player is visible to the stadium and television audience (including in pregame warm-ups, in the bench area, and during postgame interviews in the locker room or on the field), players are prohibited from wearing, displaying, or otherwise conveying personal messages either in writing or illustration, unless such message has been approved in advance by the League office. Items to celebrate anniversaries or memorable events, or to honor or commemorate individuals, such as helmet decals, and arm bands and jersey patches on players’ uniforms, are prohibited unless approved in advance by the League office. All such items approved by the League office, if any, must relate to team or League events or personages. The League will not grant permission for any club or player to wear, display, or otherwise convey messages, through helmet decals, arm bands, jersey patches, or other items affixed to game uniforms or equipment, which relate to political activities or causes, other non-football events, causes or campaigns, or charitable causes or campaigns. Further, any such approved items must be modest in size, tasteful, non-commercial, and noncontroversial; must not be worn for more than one football season; and if approved for use by a specific team, must not be worn by players on other teams in the League.”
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 25, 2017, 11:46:57 AM
http://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2017-nfl-rulebook/
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: funk51 on September 25, 2017, 04:13:29 PM
This country is absolutely embarrassing. Prez commenting on NFL and ratings, players acting like politicians.
Donald, you have plenty of other stuff to focus on, please shut up. Social justice oppressed athletes, collect your millions, please shut the feck up.
                                                          EXACTLY
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Powerlift66 on September 25, 2017, 04:27:01 PM
The Don seems to be a SNL parody of himself... Scary...
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: HTexan on September 25, 2017, 04:44:18 PM
18 U.S. Code § 227
Trump is too stupid to be president.
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Post by: Kwon on September 25, 2017, 05:39:33 PM
Just ban the NFL and send a nuke on North Korea and Syria.

Faxed.
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 25, 2017, 07:24:16 PM
18 U.S. Code § 227
Trump is too stupid to be president.

Yes, because Obama, Holder Trevon Martin "If I had a son he'd look just like me" the Hands up don't shoot" Micheal Brown lie, Baltimore and every other cop shooting that Obama use to incite more violence from BLM....had nothing to do with this..morons
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: calfzilla on September 25, 2017, 08:39:33 PM
Did you guys see that beta cuck (I assume owner of coach) from the Dallas cowboys joining all the porch monkeys disrespecting the flag.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Royalty on September 25, 2017, 08:44:55 PM
Did you guys see that beta cuck (I assume owner of coach) from the Dallas cowboys joining all the porch monkeys disrespecting the flag.

His name is Jerry Jones. Ironically, Jerry said (during the off season) that if any Cowboy kneeled during the national anthem, that they would not be on the Cowboys very long.

Now this. Jones is a hypocrite.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 25, 2017, 08:45:35 PM
Did you guys see that beta cuck (I assume owner of coach) from the Dallas cowboys joining all the porch monkeys disrespecting the flag.

porch monkeys...nice
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Post by: calfzilla on September 25, 2017, 08:47:10 PM
porch monkeys...nice

Borrowed it from Big Lenny  ;D
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Royalty on September 25, 2017, 08:51:01 PM
"Coach is Back" had a thread about Jerry Jones on August 1


Now the link that Coach had provided has been removed by Google

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=634385.msg8837972#msg8837972
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 25, 2017, 08:53:21 PM
"Coach is Back" had a thread about Jerry Jones on August 1


Now the link that Coach had provided has been removed by Google

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=634385.msg8837972#msg8837972

Wasn't a real statement. It was bs. I'm assuming like much what James Harrison supposedly said.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Royalty on September 25, 2017, 08:56:31 PM
I didn't watch the game. But I read that the Cowboys actually kneeled prior to the anthem. But stood during the Anthem.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: calfzilla on September 25, 2017, 08:57:47 PM
I didn't watch the game. But I read that the Cowboys actually kneeled prior to the anthem. But stood during the Anthem.


If that's true then I'm okay with that. NBA better not start this shit or else no nba games for me.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 25, 2017, 08:59:43 PM
His name is Jerry Jones. Ironically, Jerry said (during the off season) that if any Cowboy kneeled during the national anthem, that they would not be on the Cowboys very long.

Now this. Jones is a hypocrite.

I don't think he said that, and tonight's actions kind of support that.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 25, 2017, 09:00:42 PM
http://www.snopes.com/jerry-jones-speech-911/
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Post by: polychronopolous on September 25, 2017, 09:04:12 PM
Best salesman the NFL has ever seen.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=636660.0;attach=745183;image)
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Royalty on September 25, 2017, 09:09:10 PM
I don't think he said that, and tonight's actions kind of support that.

This link was removed recently by google. Coach originally posted it on 8/1/17

https://www.google.com/amp/kfrog.cbslocal.com/2017/07/28/cowboys-jerry-jones-to-players-stand-for-the-anthem-or-youre-off-the-team/amp/#ampshare=http://kfrog.cbslocal.com/2017/07/28/cowboys-jerry-jones-to-players-stand-for-the-anthem-or-youre-off-the-team/
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: jude2 on September 25, 2017, 09:10:23 PM
I didn't watch the game. But I read that the Cowboys actually kneeled prior to the anthem. But stood during the Anthem.

That is correct, but the crowed booed them.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Royalty on September 25, 2017, 09:11:08 PM
Check out this very recent alteration of the Wikipedia page for Jerry Jones
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: LittleJ on September 25, 2017, 10:16:12 PM
I never did understand why you would watch NFL or NBA if you hate black people so much.  ???
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 25, 2017, 10:23:01 PM
I never did understand why you would watch NFL or NBA if you hate black people so much.  ???

A number of members here are suffering from cognitive dissonance.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 25, 2017, 10:36:40 PM
I never did understand why you would watch NFL or NBA if you hate black people so much.  ???

1. I like football

2. Many of them are my clients so it's partly my job to watch.

3. You come back on here with same old bullshit not realizing that blacks in general are the more racist by far. Shit, I probably know more black people than you.... and you're black.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Bevo on September 25, 2017, 10:52:00 PM
I never did understand why you would watch NFL or NBA if you hate black people so much.  ???

Black people hate whites but that doesn’t stop black guys from chasing white girls and buying German automobiles when they get rich  :D
Title: Re: "Get that son of a bitch off the field!" Trump on NFL
Post by: Powerlift66 on September 26, 2017, 01:48:20 AM
Yes, because Obama, Holder Trevon Martin "If I had a son he'd look just like me" the Hands up don't shoot" Micheal Brown lie, Baltimore and every other cop shooting that Obama use to incite more violence from BLM....had nothing to do with this..morons

Barry O basically took race relations back to where they were once worse, so congrats Barry, you and "Michael" your 1st Tranny.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: LittleJ on September 26, 2017, 08:57:55 AM
1. I like football

2. Many of them are my clients so it's partly my job to watch.

3. You come back on here with same old bullshit not realizing that blacks in general are the more racist by far. Shit, I probably know more black people than you.... and you're black.

You wake up stupid everyday

Does your clients know you hate them? I guess you put on a good front for $$$$

Black people hate whites but that doesn’t stop black guys from chasing white girls and buying German automobiles when they get rich  :D

I love white people. While I type this, I'm having breakfast with my white pals. :)
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: SuperTed on September 26, 2017, 09:17:52 AM
I never did understand why you would watch NFL or NBA if you hate black people so much.  ???

I've mentioned this earlier in the thread. It doesn't make sense why anyone who dislikes blacks would care much for sports which are over 70% black. Also, it shouldn't come to any surprise why those black athletes would eventually show an interest towards ethnocentric causes.
This is why when Kaepernick refused to stand, everyone should have just ignored him and continued like normal. Instead, you had simpletons like Coach who turned it into a major issue and by doing so, has escalated the problem and expanded the "protest".
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: chaos on September 26, 2017, 09:36:32 AM

I love white people. While I type this, I'm having breakfast with my white pals. :)
Being their butler doesn't make them your pals. ;)
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 26, 2017, 09:48:24 AM
Being their butler doesn't make them your pals. ;)
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Parker on September 26, 2017, 10:23:58 AM
Black people hate whites but that doesn’t stop black guys from chasing white girls and buying German automobiles when they get rich  :D
Thats because it's not hate.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 26, 2017, 11:33:30 AM
Thats because it's not hate.

I think you and I both know that if you visit a forum with a number of black posters you will find that almost every subject is either about race or turns to race. It's just as bad if not worse. If we're going to discus racial issues here a little honesty would help.

Mayo
Cracker
Seasoning
Cum skin
Wet dog
Skin cancer
Devils
Bestiality (muslims)  
Child rapists (muslims)
Incest (muslims)
mass shooters
Muh supreme melonin


And my favorite, black revisionists.

(https://i.redd.it/ca7cqqy2tlty.png)
(https://poseidonawoke.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/crt6yibwwaedrkz.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/43/6e/39/436e399a7f99ec3d6463206b498d5d33.jpg)
(https://pics.onsizzle.com/the-spellso-deep-white-societyhad-tricked-black-folks-that-theyre-3360710.png)
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/131/699/b85.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/90/63/8d/90638df07e0e9bbf25dd477924f89bed--pre-history-modern-history.jpg)
(https://pics.onsizzle.com/ig-blacksbelike-what-if-told-you-the-original-chinese-were-black-4189769.png)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_Gak-6UMAAvrgT.jpg)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/chaTSbU4UME/maxresdefault.jpg)
(http://theheritagestudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/kara_walker6.jpg?w=800)
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/890bfa1d6bb2586c10165867b7731d83/tumblr_obefq2J2SW1tp5ofjo1_1280.jpg)


This only aplies to "people of color"
(https://pics.me.me/black-lives-matter-ines-sunday-at-11-16-pm-o-facebook-21842071.png)

 
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 26, 2017, 12:07:39 PM
This link was removed recently by google. Coach originally posted it on 8/1/17

https://www.google.com/amp/kfrog.cbslocal.com/2017/07/28/cowboys-jerry-jones-to-players-stand-for-the-anthem-or-youre-off-the-team/amp/#ampshare=http://kfrog.cbslocal.com/2017/07/28/cowboys-jerry-jones-to-players-stand-for-the-anthem-or-youre-off-the-team/

My guess is that the union threatened a walk out. Jerry is just doing what's best for his wallet.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Parker on September 26, 2017, 12:55:23 PM
 http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/26/opinions/first-amendment-football-protest-callan-opinion/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/26/opinions/first-amendment-football-protest-callan-opinion/index.html)
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 26, 2017, 01:13:22 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/26/opinions/first-amendment-football-protest-callan-opinion/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/26/opinions/first-amendment-football-protest-callan-opinion/index.html)

 ;)

Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Shizzo on September 26, 2017, 03:03:18 PM
I think you and I both know that if you visit a forum with a number of black posters you will find that almost every subject is either about race or turns to race. It's just as bad if not worse. If we're going to discus racial issues here a little honesty would help.

Mayo
Cracker
Seasoning
Cum skin
Wet dog
Skin cancer
Devils
Bestiality (muslims)  
Child rapists (muslims)
Incest (muslims)
mass shooters
Muh supreme melonin


And my favorite, black revisionists.

(https://i.redd.it/ca7cqqy2tlty.png)
(https://poseidonawoke.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/crt6yibwwaedrkz.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/43/6e/39/436e399a7f99ec3d6463206b498d5d33.jpg)
(https://pics.onsizzle.com/the-spellso-deep-white-societyhad-tricked-black-folks-that-theyre-3360710.png)
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/131/699/b85.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/90/63/8d/90638df07e0e9bbf25dd477924f89bed--pre-history-modern-history.jpg)
(https://pics.onsizzle.com/ig-blacksbelike-what-if-told-you-the-original-chinese-were-black-4189769.png)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_Gak-6UMAAvrgT.jpg)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/chaTSbU4UME/maxresdefault.jpg)
(http://theheritagestudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/kara_walker6.jpg?w=800)
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/890bfa1d6bb2586c10165867b7731d83/tumblr_obefq2J2SW1tp5ofjo1_1280.jpg)


This only aplies to "people of color"
(https://pics.me.me/black-lives-matter-ines-sunday-at-11-16-pm-o-facebook-21842071.png)

 
Only True Adonis goes to these lengths......
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: LittleJ on September 26, 2017, 05:18:58 PM
Being their butler doesn't make them your pals. ;)

Nice try convict
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Kwon on September 26, 2017, 06:03:39 PM
Being their butler doesn't make them your pals. ;)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/D6WuLOKOpR2fK/giphy.gif)
Title: just because u can take a knee dont mean u should
Post by: Marty Champions on September 26, 2017, 06:59:18 PM
u can think deep on this all u want if u do , u realize the facts dont lie , there is too much racial inequality and unfair police attacks, until my black peoples get the equality they deserve i will stand

we shall rise the greates author maya angelo
Title: Re: just because u can take a knee dont mean u should
Post by: Kwon on September 26, 2017, 06:59:46 PM
All those who take a knee should take a bullet.
Title: Re: just because u can take a knee dont mean u should
Post by: Marty Champions on September 26, 2017, 07:01:10 PM
All those who take a knee should take a bullet.
not the knee grow
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: TheGrinch on September 26, 2017, 07:54:44 PM
Maybe non-blacks should consider taking a knee to protest the fact that representatives from a group representing only 12% of the population commits 52% of the murders in the country and 92% of the murders when the victim is black.

Or how blacks are 7 to 10 times more prone than whites to engage in criminal activity.

Let's be real, the only justice many blacks look for is justice that they agree with.

Some still believe that Michael Brown was shot without cause, but they stood in the streets and gleefully cheered when O.J. Simpson was found not guilty.

 Sadly, with all the criminal activity perpetrated by players in the NFL, the NFL has become sports imitating life.

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/arrests/
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 26, 2017, 10:40:57 PM
(https://i.redd.it/cwa554fnexnz.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: funk51 on September 27, 2017, 07:01:20 AM
isn't it kind of funny how we're getting patriotism lessons from a draft dodger. the same guy who said john mccain is not a war hero because he was captured in war.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 27, 2017, 07:12:30 AM
Fuck John McCain.
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: oldgolds on September 27, 2017, 07:13:16 AM
Another nail in the NFL coffin.


I ain't watching them fat asses any more...Let em get jobs...
Title: Re: Tell That Son of a B***h He's Fired': Trump Blasts NFL Anthem Kneelers
Post by: dj181 on September 27, 2017, 07:30:05 AM

I ain't watching them fat asses any more...Let em get jobs...

the fat fucks (lineman) careers last 4 years if they are lucky
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Griffith on September 27, 2017, 08:01:28 AM
I think you and I both know that if you visit a forum with a number of black posters you will find that almost every subject is either about race or turns to race. It's just as bad if not worse. If we're going to discus racial issues here a little honesty would help.

Mayo
Cracker
Seasoning
Cum skin
Wet dog
Skin cancer
Devils
Bestiality (muslims)  
Child rapists (muslims)
Incest (muslims)
mass shooters
Muh supreme melonin


And my favorite, black revisionists.

(https://i.redd.it/ca7cqqy2tlty.png)
(https://poseidonawoke.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/crt6yibwwaedrkz.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/43/6e/39/436e399a7f99ec3d6463206b498d5d33.jpg)
(https://pics.onsizzle.com/the-spellso-deep-white-societyhad-tricked-black-folks-that-theyre-3360710.png)
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/131/699/b85.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/90/63/8d/90638df07e0e9bbf25dd477924f89bed--pre-history-modern-history.jpg)
(https://pics.onsizzle.com/ig-blacksbelike-what-if-told-you-the-original-chinese-were-black-4189769.png)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_Gak-6UMAAvrgT.jpg)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/chaTSbU4UME/maxresdefault.jpg)
(http://theheritagestudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/kara_walker6.jpg?w=800)
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/890bfa1d6bb2586c10165867b7731d83/tumblr_obefq2J2SW1tp5ofjo1_1280.jpg)


This only aplies to "people of color"
(https://pics.me.me/black-lives-matter-ines-sunday-at-11-16-pm-o-facebook-21842071.png)

 

Clinging at straws and delusions because the truth and reality is too hard for them to bear.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 27, 2017, 08:39:46 AM
These blacks make me laugh.  If it wasn't for sports , about 99.9999% of them would be dead, in jail or doing some illegal activity. There are a couple in the NFL that would have been fine with having a degree but then again without sports they wouldn't have gotten into a good school to get that degree.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: funk51 on September 27, 2017, 10:47:57 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 27, 2017, 11:07:53 AM
.

Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 27, 2017, 11:10:28 AM
This past Sunday, NFL viewership was down. Lets hope this trend continues.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 27, 2017, 11:15:45 AM
This past Sunday, NFL viewership was down. Lets hope this trend continues.

Yes, because all of those people that have jobs BECAUSE of the NFL don't need them anymore ::)
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Tedim on September 27, 2017, 11:23:35 AM
I'm sick of hearing about this non issue....

Sit, stand, kneel, squat, lay down, stand on your hands, balance on your cock.....just make sure you cover the spread fa99ots 
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 27, 2017, 11:34:16 AM
Yes, because all of those people that have jobs BECAUSE of the NFL don't need them anymore ::)

You don't give a shit when other people lose their jobs, but only seem to care now because these people have NFL jobs and you love the NFL. Like all the other people you never gave two shits about, these people will also find other jobs.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 27, 2017, 11:42:07 AM
You don't give a shit when other people lose their jobs, but only seem to care now because these people have NFL jobs and you love the NFL. Like all the other people you never gave two shits about, these people will also find other jobs.

That's a little judgemental don't ya think? Since I'm one of those that voted for Trump because of wanting more people to work so we don't have people forced on the government dole like Obama was trying to do, fuck yes I care. Apparently you don't understand the jobs created because of the NFL as well as MLB, NBA and just pro sports in general. There aren't just Owners, athletes and coaches involved here. Your thinking is limited and selfish.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: SF1900 on September 27, 2017, 11:54:46 AM
That's a little judgemental don't ya think? Since I'm one of those that voted for Trump because of wanting more people to work so we don't have people forced on the government dole like Obama was trying to do, fuck yes I care. Apparently you don't understand the jobs created because of the NFL as well as MLB, NBA and just pro sports in general. There aren't just Owners, athletes and coaches involved here. Your thinking is limited and selfish.

Yes, I am sure you really care when the random janitor loses his job.  ::) ::) ::) Who you kidding?

You have a hard-on for the NFL, that is the only reason you dont want to see them or anyone affiliated with them lose their jobs. Other than that, you do not care about the average dishwasher or janitor who loses their job-I have NEVER seen you go this hard for such a cause. Now, you're a bleeding heart for the poor NFL and their associates.  ::) ::)

Yes, I realize its not just owners, coaches, or athletes, but everyone involved in the production of sports--camera people, editors, etc, as well as people that own clothing lines, trophy stores, food stores (who sells chips and beer to sport fans), etc, etc, etc, etc Yes, yes, I get it. Happy? However, humans adapt, we always have. Getting rid of sports will not break humanity. Yes, we will have to adapt, and it may take some time, but we will go on without sports.
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: cross-of-iron on September 27, 2017, 12:31:43 PM
Yes, because all of those people that have jobs BECAUSE of the NFL don't need them anymore ::)

They can thank the NFL, MSM and all the race pimps for that. Let's not forget the incident that took place in Las Vegas involving Michael Bennet and the LVPD

Seahawks defensive end Michael Bennett got a strong statement of support from NFL commissioner Roger Goodell on Wednesday.

The statement came after Bennett shared the details of a harrowing incident that allegedly occurred while he was in Las Vegas for the Floyd Mayweather-Conor McGregor fight on Aug. 26.
As he was heading home after the fight, Bennett said that he heard gunshots being fired. After police arrived on the scene, Bennett says that they "singled" him out and pointed their guns at him for one reason: Because he was a black man who was in the "wrong place place at the wrong time."

Bennett added that the officers used excessive force while he was in custody, and that one cop even threatened to "blow his head off."

After hearing the story, Goodell said made it clear that the league supports Bennett.

"Michael Bennett represents the best of the NFL -- a leader on his team and in his community," Goodell said. "Our foremost concern is the welfare of Michael and his family. While we understand the Las Vegas police department will address this later this evening, the issues Michael has been raising deserve serious attention from all of our leaders in every community. We will support Michael and all NFL players in promoting mutual respect between law enforcement and the communities they loyally serve and fair and equal treatment under the law."

Bennett also received a statement of support from Seahawks coach Pete Carroll.

"What happened with Michael is a classic illustration of the reality of inequalities that are demonstrated daily," Carroll said. "May this incident inspire all of us to respond with compassion when inequalities are brought to light and allow us to have the courage to stand for change. We can do better than this."

Kevin McMahill, the Undersheriff of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, gave the LVMPD's version of events during the department's press conference, and says that he didn't believe there was any racial profiling involved in the Bennett incident.  
"I can tell you as I stand here today, I see no evidence of that," McMahill said. "I see no evidence that race played any role in this incident."

According to McMahill, police received a call around 1:30 a.m. on Sunday about a possible active shooter who was believed to be somewhere around Drai's nightclub at the Cromwell casino.
When officers arrived at the hotel, it was total chaos as hundreds of people were attempting to flee the supposed shooter.

Footage inside the casino where you here officers yelling comans at 3:18 the yell "There's one running." at 3:25.
i

Footage being arrested. I dindu nuttin man!


"Mr. Bennett, at the scene, had the incident explained to him by a supervisor and he said that he understood and that he had no problem with what the officers did," McMahill said.
However, McMahill did go on to say that Bennett did actually mention having an issue with one of the cops.

"He claimed the officer pointed a gun at his head," McMahill said.
McMahill didn't deny Bennett's claim that an officer said he wanted to blow the NFL player's "head off."

"That's part of what we have to investigate," McMahill said.
McMahill showed a five-minute video that was taken by a police body camera on the night of the incident, and the end of the video appears to show an officer holding something up to Bennett's head.

Was the cop wrong for pointing a gun to his head? No. He just ran from the scene where there was a report of gunfire so of course the officer would react that way with someone who they believe could be armed. The fact that he's a football player doesn't change anything.

ABC interview with lying dindu claiming racial profiling.


Fuck the NFL, Goodell and Carell for making statements before getting the facts and catering to their players black bullshit.

Fuck the NFL for pushing their messages of anti domestic violence and racial tolerance bullshit on the veiwership because of the actions of their players.

The liberal media, sjw's and race pimps on twitter don't make up the majority of white America. Your actions are only pushing normies farther right. Trump was absolutely right for what he said.



Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 27, 2017, 12:33:12 PM
Yes, I am sure you really care when the random janitor loses his job.  ::) ::) ::) Who you kidding?

You have a hard-on for the NFL, that is the only reason you dont want to see them or anyone affiliated with them lose their jobs. Other than that, you do not care about the average dishwasher or janitor who loses their job-I have NEVER seen you go this hard for such a cause. Now, you're a bleeding heart for the poor NFL and their associates.  ::) ::)

Yes, I realize its not just owners, coaches, or athletes, but everyone involved in the production of sports--camera people, editors, etc, as well as people that own clothing lines, trophy stores, food stores (who sells chips and beer to sport fans), etc, etc, etc, etc Yes, yes, I get it. Happy? However, humans adapt, we always have. Getting rid of sports will not break humanity. Yes, we will have to adapt, and it may take some time, but we will go on without sports.

Well, you're the one proving you don't give a shit about anyone. No, not happy because you're oblivious. There are businesses in the surrounding areas that depend on those stadiums to stay open. Wtf is the matter with you ? Typical liberal. Just the opposite of what you guys preach. lol
Title: Re: NFL - Get that son of a bitch off the field! - Trump on NFL
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 27, 2017, 12:40:34 PM
They can thank the NFL, MSM and all the race pimps for that. Let's not forget the incident that took place in Las Vegas involving Michael Bennet and the LVPD

Seahawks defensive end Michael Bennett got a strong statement of support from NFL commissioner Roger Goodell on Wednesday.

The statement came after Bennett shared the details of a harrowing incident that allegedly occurred while he was in Las Vegas for the Floyd Mayweather-Conor McGregor fight on Aug. 26.
As he was heading home after the fight, Bennett said that he heard gunshots being fired. After police arrived on the scene, Bennett says that they "singled" him out and pointed their guns at him for one reason: Because he was a black man who was in the "wrong place place at the wrong time."

Bennett added that the officers used excessive force while he was in custody, and that one cop even threatened to "blow his head off."

After hearing the story, Goodell said made it clear that the league supports Bennett.

"Michael Bennett represents the best of the NFL -- a leader on his team and in his community," Goodell said. "Our foremost concern is the welfare of Michael and his family. While we understand the Las Vegas police department will address this later this evening, the issues Michael has been raising deserve serious attention from all of our leaders in every community. We will support Michael and all NFL players in promoting mutual respect between law enforcement and the communities they loyally serve and fair and equal treatment under the law."

Bennett also received a statement of support from Seahawks coach Pete Carroll.

"What happened with Michael is a classic illustration of the reality of inequalities that are demonstrated daily," Carroll said. "May this incident inspire all of us to respond with compassion when inequalities are brought to light and allow us to have the courage to stand for change. We can do better than this."

Kevin McMahill, the Undersheriff of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, gave the LVMPD's version of events during the department's press conference, and says that he didn't believe there was any racial profiling involved in the Bennett incident.  
"I can tell you as I stand here today, I see no evidence of that," McMahill said. "I see no evidence that race played any role in this incident."

According to McMahill, police received a call around 1:30 a.m. on Sunday about a possible active shooter who was believed to be somewhere around Drai's nightclub at the Cromwell casino.
When officers arrived at the hotel, it was total chaos as hundreds of people were attempting to flee the supposed shooter.

Footage inside the casino where you here officers yelling comans at 3:18 the yell "There's one running." at 3:25.
i

Footage being arrested. I dindu nuttin man!


"Mr. Bennett, at the scene, had the incident explained to him by a supervisor and he said that he understood and that he had no problem with what the officers did," McMahill said.
However, McMahill did go on to say that Bennett did actually mention having an issue with one of the cops.

"He claimed the officer pointed a gun at his head," McMahill said.
McMahill didn't deny Bennett's claim that an officer said he wanted to blow the NFL player's "head off."

"That's part of what we have to investigate," McMahill said.
McMahill showed a five-minute video that was taken by a police body camera on the night of the incident, and the end of the video appears to show an officer holding something up to Bennett's head.

Was the cop wrong for pointing a gun to his head? No. He just ran from the scene where there was a report of gunfire so of course the officer would react that way with someone who they believe could be armed. The fact that he's a football player doesn't change anything.

ABC interview with lying dindu claiming racial profiling.


Fuck the NFL, Goodell and Carell for making statements before getting the facts and catering to their players black bullshit.

Fuck the NFL for pushing their messages of anti domestic violence and racial tolerance bullshit on the veiwership because of the actions of their players.

The liberal media, sjw's and race pimps on twitter don't make up the majority of white America. Your actions are only pushing normies farther right. Trump was absolutely right for what he said.





But this isn't the NFL as a whole. This is leftist Roger Goodell and his $40mil a year paycheck. No player I know that had to deal him, likes him. Along with the MSM, he's fuckkng the league over. As far as Bennett. He's fucking liar because (and the knows this but won't address it) after the cops told EVERYONE to not leave, he was hiding behind an gaming table and when the cop made eye contact he ran, that cop had no idea of that was Bennett or the shooter.
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Post by: cross-of-iron on September 27, 2017, 12:58:54 PM
Well, there's always college basketball...
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Post by: Coach is Back! on September 27, 2017, 02:13:02 PM
Well, there's always college basketball...

That and college football
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Post by: Shizzo on September 27, 2017, 03:07:27 PM
I'm sick of hearing about this non issue....

Sit, stand, kneel, squat, lay down, stand on your hands, balance on your cock.....just make sure you cover the spread fa99ots 
Thanks for the outing, Junior.  ;)
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Post by: Desolate on September 27, 2017, 06:22:02 PM
These blacks make me laugh.  If it wasn't for sports , about 99.9999% of them would be dead, in jail or doing some illegal activity. There are a couple in the NFL that would have been fine with having a degree but then again without sports they wouldn't have gotten into a good school to get that degree.

Yes.

Maybe the best and most factually accurate post in this forum in years. 8)

You don't give a shit when other people lose their jobs, but only seem to care now because these people have NFL jobs and you love the NFL. Like all the other people you never gave two shits about, these people will also find other jobs.

Agreed.

Double standard.
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Post by: cross-of-iron on September 27, 2017, 08:28:04 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/RagE7S7.jpg)
Title: Re: just because u can take a knee dont mean u should
Post by: Agnostic007 on September 27, 2017, 09:14:05 PM
All those who take a knee should take a bullet.
well you're an idot who probably didn't serve
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Post by: Agnostic007 on September 27, 2017, 09:18:04 PM
That and college football

forgive, me, Ive been off this page awhile, would you please remind me of your military experience? 
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Post by: LittleJ on September 27, 2017, 09:30:18 PM
Kwon isn't American! Why is he so concerned about what goes on in America? ::)
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Post by: Coach is Back! on September 27, 2017, 09:35:30 PM
forgive, me, Ive been off this page awhile, would you please remind me of your military experience? 

I have none. What matter does it make? I'm not allowed to defend my country in other ways, support our military and respect our flag because I didn't serve? My father, grandfather and grandfather served. Is there a problem?
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Post by: Agnostic007 on September 27, 2017, 09:40:19 PM
I have none. What matter does it make? I'm not allowed to defend my country in other ways, support our military and respect our flag because I didn't serve? My father, grandfather and grandfather served. Is there a problem?
it helps me put into context what you post
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Post by: seCrawler on September 27, 2017, 09:45:43 PM
Kwon isn't American! Why is he so concerned about what goes on in America? ::)

X2
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Post by: Agnostic007 on September 27, 2017, 09:45:46 PM
I have none. What matter does it make? I'm not allowed to defend my country in other ways, support our military and respect our flag because I didn't serve? My father, grandfather and grandfather served. Is there a problem?

I did 10 years.. and I respect the opinion on subjects related to patriotism from those who served even if it contradicts mine. They earned that right by putting their life on the line. when I hear opinions about country and respect from people who never served, it is more an annoyance like a mosquito around the ear than anything else. They should tread lightly, but they typically don't. They are usually the loudest, even though that right to speak was paid for by those who did serve
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Post by: Coach is Back! on September 27, 2017, 09:52:24 PM
I did 10 years.. and I respect the opinion on subjects related to patriotism from those who served even if it contradicts mine. They earned that right by putting their life on the line. when I hear opinions about country and respect from people who never served, it is more an annoyance like a mosquito around the ear than anything else. They should tread lightly, but they typically don't. They are usually the loudest, even though that right to speak was paid for by those who did serve

This being said. Are you on the side of them kneeling or standing. The kneeling part comes from the left screaming racial equality. IMO, this is BS. They do it during the anthem. Villanueva stood for the flag because he served. I respect your service 100000% but because you served shouldn't dismiss my views.
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Post by: Agnostic007 on September 27, 2017, 10:16:38 PM
This being said. Are you on the side of them kneeling or standing. The kneeling part comes from the left screaming racial equality. IMO, this is BS. They do it during the anthem. Villanueva stood for the flag because he served. I respect your service 100000% but because you served shouldn't dismiss my views.

As a cop from a major city.. and being privy to statistics and news media I feel the cops and the courts have dropped the ball in some cases. Enough to bolster their claim of inequality. I don't agree with the percentage, but I acknowledge there is room for improvement. I fought for my county, but I also believe strongly in the constitution and 1st amendment rights. It's not contingent on whether  I agree with their views or not. I'd much rather they peacefully protest than riot in the streets. Now the player that was making a show of stretching during the anthem, pure disrespect. Those quietly taking a knee? I think our country is strong enough to withstand a little kneeling during the anthem. I've protected the KKK  while they  spewed horrific rhetoric. I've protected Black Lives Matter while they insulted me and my co-workers. I look at the big picture. What makes America great in my opinion, is the ability to voice an unpopular view
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Post by: Agnostic007 on September 27, 2017, 10:18:45 PM
 You want to talk about dishonoring a country, look no farther than someone who avoided military service using a bone spur as a reason yet could play baseball, telling a Vietnam prisoner of war he's a loser because he got caught, That to me, is the epitome of unpatriotic behavior
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Post by: TheGrinch on September 27, 2017, 10:25:42 PM
What makes America great in my opinion, is the ability to voice an unpopular view


NOT during working hours..


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Post by: Agnostic007 on September 27, 2017, 10:27:22 PM

NOT during working hours..




up to the boss on that one. Apparently the NFL and owners are ok with it
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Post by: Agnostic007 on September 27, 2017, 10:28:48 PM
If the NFL banned protesting tomorrow, I would support their right as employers to do so
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Post by: TheGrinch on September 27, 2017, 10:31:30 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/delanie-walker-fans-boycott-nfl-002923877.html
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Post by: Megalodon on September 27, 2017, 10:32:53 PM
MD getting political    :D  ;)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=637012.0;attach=745196;image)
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Post by: Agnostic007 on September 27, 2017, 10:33:20 PM
““That’s their choice [not to watch],” cornerback Logan Ryan said. “That’s the beauty of this country. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and everyone’s opinion is equal. So right, wrong or indifferent, that’s the beauty of this country — that everyone should have equal rights and equal opinions on what they want. If they don’t want to watch, that’s their choice. That’s perfect.”

who can argue with that?
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Post by: Coach is Back! on September 27, 2017, 10:34:57 PM
up to the boss on that one. Apparently the NFL and owners are ok with it

They won't be after they start seeing their investments take a plunge
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Post by: Coach is Back! on September 27, 2017, 10:36:58 PM
““That’s their choice [not to watch],” cornerback Logan Ryan said. “That’s the beauty of this country. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and everyone’s opinion is equal. So right, wrong or indifferent, that’s the beauty of this country — that everyone should have equal rights and equal opinions on what they want. If they don’t want to watch, that’s their choice. That’s perfect.”

who can argue with that?

Absolutely correct, they are entitled to their own opinion but when it affects employers bottom league wide, I guarantee it will end quick.
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Post by: Agnostic007 on September 27, 2017, 10:40:37 PM
Absolutely correct, they are entitled to their own opinion but when it affects employers bottom league wide, I guarantee it will end quick.

And that's ok. I'm actually surprised they let it go this long
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Post by: Coach is Back! on September 27, 2017, 10:42:08 PM
And that's ok. I'm actually surprised they let it go this long

Typo, I meant to say bottom line
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Post by: Agnostic007 on September 27, 2017, 10:43:40 PM
Typo, I meant to say bottom line
I'm fluent in Coach
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Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 27, 2017, 10:46:30 PM
I've mentioned this earlier in the thread. It doesn't make sense why anyone who dislikes blacks would care much for sports which are over 70% black. Also, it shouldn't come to any surprise why those black athletes would eventually show an interest towards ethnocentric causes.
This is why when Kaepernick refused to stand, everyone should have just ignored him and continued like normal. Instead, you had simpletons like Coach who turned it into a major issue and by doing so, has escalated the problem and expanded the "protest".

Maybe instead of ignoring him, fans should have jumped him and beat him senseless? ???
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Post by: Coach is Back! on September 27, 2017, 10:50:05 PM
I'm fluent in Coach

Ha ;D
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Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 27, 2017, 10:52:06 PM
Yes, because all of those people that have jobs BECAUSE of the NFL don't need them anymore ::)

Fuck off Coach, the NFL shouldn't put up with this anti American shit. Why are you acting like a Communist POS?
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Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 27, 2017, 10:54:24 PM
The left has even got to Coach, how fucking disappointing.

Never in a million years did I think we would catch him supporting such an anti American business :( :(
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Post by: Eyeball Chambers on September 27, 2017, 10:55:12 PM
It's a non Issue, the NFL isn't going away but if ratings keep dropping they will clean house and run the leftist cowards off.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on September 27, 2017, 11:04:48 PM
The left has even got to Coach, how fucking disappointing.

Never in a million years did I think we would catch him supporting such an anti American business :( :(

I'm supporting the local businesses that depend on the those stadiums to be filled. The only NFL games I watched were the ones that my guys played in.
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Post by: Ted SuperSet on September 27, 2017, 11:10:59 PM
What does that video have to do with POTUS?

Are YOU  KWON, questioning the relevance of posted videos? Pot / Kettle of peas!
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Post by: Rami on September 27, 2017, 11:18:24 PM
Legend Football League responds





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Post by: Kwon on September 28, 2017, 04:09:09 AM
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22007946_10156349316863812_4211903019044714751_n.jpg?oh=2585926ecf4b96516bc1e21a33410e3b&oe=5A3D8813)
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Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 28, 2017, 04:37:36 AM
And that's ok. I'm actually surprised they let it go this long

It's a unionized league that is 75% black. If the players walk the owners are really going to lose a lot of money. The owners are first and foremost businessmen. They're going to do what's in the best interest of their bank accounts.

Regarding the so-called injustices, The African-American community got what it wanted in Chicago. Police stops and enforcement decreased dramatically and as a result crime skyrocketed. Personally, I don't give a shit if these guys kneel or not but spare me the bullshit about police injustices when your demographic has the highest criminality rate on the face of the earth.



Chicago Police Street Stops Decrease Dramatically Amid Sinking Morale

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160113/loop/chicago-police-street-stops-decrease-dramatically-amid-sinking-morale.amp


Violent weekend leaves 11 dead as city marks 500 homicides - Chicago Tribune

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-shootings-violence-homicides-20170918-story,amp.html

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Post by: Yamcha on September 28, 2017, 04:40:22 AM




Watched the first play from scrimmage; the black running back's nickname is "the wildebeest"

I fucking lost it.  :D
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Post by: Kwon on September 28, 2017, 05:18:27 AM
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21768455_1890035381013166_7753809410243589377_n.jpg?oh=ef1d8ce354977ca867c5820852dfd0b6&oe=5A3B0B8F)
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Post by: Kwon on September 28, 2017, 05:20:47 AM
Watched the first play from scrimmage; the black running back's nickname is "the wildebeest"

I fucking lost it.  :D

Wildebeest was huge though!
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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 28, 2017, 07:22:50 AM
What a crock protest.  JJ making sure the camera was focused on him.

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Post by: Parker on September 28, 2017, 07:34:28 AM
Watched the first play from scrimmage; the black running back's nickname is "the wildebeest"

I fucking lost it.  :D
That other player's one arm catch was great. These women don't get the credit that they deserve for being phenomenal athletes.
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Post by: Super Natural on September 28, 2017, 07:36:43 AM
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Post by: cross-of-iron on September 28, 2017, 08:54:21 AM
(https://i.redditmedia.com/O_W2PLZAwuu-Wm8n0CgXEtpwuQaRSMmS99HHTdfLuQY.jpg?w=718&s=2205d9ea2672e1c720eb4323bd29d5cb)
(http://)
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Post by: funk51 on September 28, 2017, 09:27:25 AM
trump's  vendetta against the nfl goes back to the early 80's trump always wanted an nfl team, but they considered him too sleazy to be part of the nfl fraternity of owners ::) ::) ::) ::) so he became part of the upstart usfl which failed miserably... as a result he hates the nfl's success.
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Post by: Agnostic007 on September 28, 2017, 09:28:10 AM
It's a unionized league that is 75% black. If the players walk the owners are really going to lose a lot of money. The owners are first and foremost businessmen. They're going to do what's in the best interest of their bank accounts.

Regarding the so-called injustices, The African-American community got what it wanted in Chicago. Police stops and enforcement decreased dramatically and as a result crime skyrocketed. Personally, I don't give a shit if these guys kneel or not but spare me the bullshit about police injustices when your demographic has the highest criminality rate on the face of the earth.



Chicago Police Street Stops Decrease Dramatically Amid Sinking Morale

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160113/loop/chicago-police-street-stops-decrease-dramatically-amid-sinking-morale.amp


Violent weekend leaves 11 dead as city marks 500 homicides - Chicago Tribune

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-shootings-violence-homicides-20170918-story,amp.html



This is my problem with the issue. If they were protesting institutionalized disparities in treatment towards blacks vs white and were actively addressing the black on black violence then I would think they were concerned about blacks, not just complaining about police not treating them the same in some instances. But when they are silent about cities like Chicago where blacks are being killed by blacks at a truly alarming rate, I just don't think they're all that concerned about black lives
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Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 28, 2017, 09:44:49 AM
This is my problem with the issue. If they were protesting institutionalized disparities in treatment towards blacks vs white and were actively addressing the black on black violence then I would think they were concerned about blacks, not just complaining about police not treating them the same in some instances. But when they are silent about cities like Chicago where blacks are being killed by blacks at a truly alarming rate, I just don't think they're all that concerned about black lives

Face it. It's a complete sham:

Baltimore's "nobody kill anybody weekend" lasts a little over a day - Hot Air

https://www.google.com/amp/s/hotair.com/archives/2017/08/06/baltimores-nobody-kill-anybody-weekend-lasts-little-day/amp/


“There is a war going on in Baltimore right now. We are experiencing genocide among our African-American males, both by the hands of the Police Department and from one another. We the people need a call to action in order to save the city and our community for our future generations,” Baltimore Ceasefire said on its Facebook page.

A “genocide… by the hands of the Police Department?” Not for nothing, but I was looking through the list of possible lethal force encounters with police for 2017 and I managed to find one. And that guy was holding a foot-long knife to the throats of a one year old and a four year old when negotiations finally broke down and the cops took him out. By contrast (falling into the category of “from one another” mentioned by the ceasefire group), criminals have murdered more than 210 of you in Charm City
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Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 28, 2017, 10:15:45 AM
trump's  vendetta against the nfl goes back to the early 80's trump always wanted an nfl team, but they considered him too sleazy to be part of the nfl fraternity of owners ::) ::) ::) ::) so he became part of the upstart usfl which failed miserably... as a result he hates the nfl's success.

Yes, and after that failure he disappeared into obscurity and was never heard from again.
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Post by: LittleJ on September 28, 2017, 10:19:40 AM
If black people scare you so much, DON'T WATCH!  ???
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Post by: Yamcha on September 28, 2017, 10:22:58 AM
If black people scare you so much, DON'T WATCH!  ???

I don't watch anymore and black people (in groups) still scare me.
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Post by: Straw Man on September 28, 2017, 10:24:19 AM
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Post by: funk51 on September 28, 2017, 10:26:02 AM
Yes, and after that failure he disappeared into obscurity and was never heard from again.
    ;D ;D ;D      do i detect a hint of sarcasm in your reply.        ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Post by: Coach is Back! on September 28, 2017, 12:23:08 PM
.

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Post by: Agnostic007 on September 28, 2017, 10:32:36 PM
Face it. It's a complete sham:

Baltimore's "nobody kill anybody weekend" lasts a little over a day - Hot Air

https://www.google.com/amp/s/hotair.com/archives/2017/08/06/baltimores-nobody-kill-anybody-weekend-lasts-little-day/amp/


“There is a war going on in Baltimore right now. We are experiencing genocide among our African-American males, both by the hands of the Police Department and from one another. We the people need a call to action in order to save the city and our community for our future generations,” Baltimore Ceasefire said on its Facebook page.

A “genocide… by the hands of the Police Department?” Not for nothing, but I was looking through the list of possible lethal force encounters with police for 2017 and I managed to find one. And that guy was holding a foot-long knife to the throats of a one year old and a four year old when negotiations finally broke down and the cops took him out. By contrast (falling into the category of “from one another” mentioned by the ceasefire group), criminals have murdered more than 210 of you in Charm City


Perhaps. But when blacks are saying police aren't held accountable when they shoot a black unjustifiably, and then we see examples of that in the last few years... it doesn't help
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Post by: Kwon on September 28, 2017, 11:18:56 PM
If black people scare you so much, DON'T WATCH!  ???

Haven't watched in 30+ years and we still avoid groups/herds of blacks.
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Post by: Thin Lizzy on September 29, 2017, 03:07:45 AM
Perhaps. But when blacks are saying police aren't held accountable when they shoot a black unjustifiably, and then we see examples of that in the last few years... it doesn't help

Please. The last "example" was an armed heroin dealer who led police on a high-speed chase. Even the liberal mainstream media didn't cover the protests because they knew that it was a losing proposition.



Why a judge acquitted a St. Louis cop of first-degree murder - NY Daily News

https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/crime/judge-acquitted-st-louis-first-degree-murder-article-1.3500493



"A full-sized revolver was too large for the officer to hide in his pants pockets and he was not wearing a jacket, the judge said. If the gun had been tucked into his belt, it would have been visible on a bystander’s video that showed Stockley walking between the police car and Smith’s car, he found.

Wilson also noted none of the officers standing next to the vehicle were called to testify that Stockley planted a gun. And he recounted witness testimony that the absence of a person’s DNA on a gun does not mean that person did not touch the gun."

“Finally, the Court observes, based on its nearly thirty years on the bench, that an urban heroin dealer not in possession of a firearm would be an anomaly,” the judge wrote.

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Post by: Pray_4_War on September 29, 2017, 03:55:49 AM
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22007946_10156349316863812_4211903019044714751_n.jpg?oh=2585926ecf4b96516bc1e21a33410e3b&oe=5A3D8813)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtJUadGWYAALAxf.jpg)

I would like an explanation of this picture if anyone can provide it.  Is this racist sign real?  Who is this person or company?  When and where was this picture taken?

I believe this needs to be either proven or debunked.  If real, this douchebag needs to be outed publicly.
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Post by: cross-of-iron on September 29, 2017, 09:00:32 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtJUadGWYAALAxf.jpg)

I would like an explanation of this picture if anyone can provide it.  Is this racist sign real?  Who is this person or company?  When and where was this picture taken?

I believe this needs to be either proven or debunked.  If real, this douchebag needs to be outed publicly.

 :D It's real, it was a black guy protesting Amscot, a payday loan company.


(https://i.redditmedia.com/a-SjSm_N1GPw84t-F90EmwRtyB5kaYAc0jpZinFiA1c.png?w=640&s=7afa47c2a661b0a56b05ba3054abe4ba)

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Post by: Pray_4_War on September 29, 2017, 09:28:47 AM
:D It's real, it was a black guy protesting Amscot, a payday loan company.



Oh.  Why am I not surprised, lol.
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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on September 29, 2017, 04:00:19 PM
:D It's real, it was a black guy protesting Amscot, a payday loan company.


(https://i.redditmedia.com/a-SjSm_N1GPw84t-F90EmwRtyB5kaYAc0jpZinFiA1c.png?w=640&s=7afa47c2a661b0a56b05ba3054abe4ba)



Love these fake quote memes.  Like the one claiming Einstein said the definition of insanity....
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Post by: cross-of-iron on September 29, 2017, 07:42:09 PM
Love these fake quote memes.  Like the one claiming Einstein said the definition of insanity....

Prove it isn't real.  ;D
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Post by: Powerlift66 on September 29, 2017, 10:45:21 PM
Trump's an orange tard.

The people (TONS) who go batshit crazy whenever he says anything are more than tards, weak minded sheeple.

Orange Oompa Loompa of Piss...
Title: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 01, 2017, 03:41:47 PM
This is liberalism out to destroy football and soon to be sports in general. Think about it. Concussions are real but now there are questions about the validity of some of this research being bias. Then there are the changing of the rules in the NFL about the intensity of the game and if a player hits another the wrong way, it's a fine or an ejection or both. The game is played softer and players are pissed and now there is this total 100% bullshit fabrication much like the "hands up don't shoot" narrative and even though it's already destroying the game (and there are MUCH more people against the kneeling and blatant disrespect ) yet still the players, coaches and the NFL higher ups continue to let this happen. So the question should be , what's REALLY going on?

Liberalism literally destroys everything it gets it's hands on.

NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during national anthem

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2017/10/01/nfls-week-4-sees-more-kneeling-during-national-anthem.html
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 04:04:50 PM
Soon, sports will be something of the past.

A LOT of people are posting on social media that they found more worthwhile things to do on a Sunday afternoon (instead of watching Football). These people were offered a great opportunity to experience something different, and are now realizing that they could be engaged in a variety of other activities. Sometimes we just need to experience something different. Naturally, some will gravitate back toward football once the protests stop. However, many may never go back and if they do, it will be to a lesser extent.
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: Royalty on October 01, 2017, 04:10:58 PM
On a different note; I can't believe that Eli Manning had a rushing touchdown today.
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 01, 2017, 04:13:44 PM
Soon, sports will be something of the past.

A LOT of people are posting on social media that they found more worthwhile things to do on a Sunday afternoon (instead of watching Football). These people were offered a great opportunity to experience something different, and are now realizing that they could be engaged in a variety of other activities. Sometimes we just need to experience something different. Naturally, some will gravitate back toward football once the protests stop. However, many may never go back and if they do, it will be to a lesser extent.

This is a DIRECT result of the disrespect of  flag and country
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 01, 2017, 04:16:03 PM
If you just expect Ghetto behavior from the Ghetto you won’t be so shocked and disappointed.


Btw, No one cares about football anymore, Coach.
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: The Scott on October 01, 2017, 04:18:21 PM
Fuck 'em.  Black.  White.  Player.  Coach.  Whatever.  Fuck their noise.

I hope to Buddha that the NFL loses more revenue and people stay away forever.  There's more to life than watching a spoiled fucktard run around playing a kid's game for millions and whining about how oppressed they be 'n' sheit.

These buttwipes deserve to be shunned and booed.  Buncha OJs in waiting.  FTA.
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 04:19:12 PM
This is a DIRECT result of the disrespect of  flag and country

What if some person realized that hiking was more productive than sitting on your ass watching football. He's experiencing nature and becoming more healthier. A way better use of time than sitting in front of the tv, stuffing yourself with nachos, and watching football. Who cares what reason(s) propelled him to make a lifestyle change--the most important thing is that this person is making better use of his time, which will benefit his health and his overall well-being. I am not overly concerned what makes someone change. I am more concerned that they are experiencing more positive behaviors--the reason means little to nothing to me.
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 01, 2017, 04:22:24 PM
It’s not an easy time for strength and conditioning coaches as they watch their cash cow go down the toilet.
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: Conker on October 01, 2017, 04:25:57 PM
if it is true that NFL fans are actually stopping watching games because players take part in peaceful protests before the game which have no impact on the game, it just shows how sh1tty the sport and or fans must be.

football fans (real football with a round ball) would never stop watching games over nonsense like that. maybe the peeps are just waking up to how sh1tty these sports are.

or probably more likely just loads more people bootlegging the games (same thing happening in europe) as people are sick of paying extortionate prices to the cable companies and the quality of paid bootleg services are now extremely good for a fraction of the price.

Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: Royalty on October 01, 2017, 04:27:09 PM
From what I've read, it seems that most Americans are siding with Trump on the 'Trump vs NFL' issue.
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: Skeletor on October 01, 2017, 04:36:40 PM
What a "sport"...
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 01, 2017, 04:45:24 PM
Essentially all pro sports are in decline. The Internet has Decentralized entertainment to the point where it’s really more about niche markets these days.

A bunch of ghetto rats kneeling for the national anthem is pretty much just greasing the skids in football but the same thing is happening in other games and sports.

Not too many brothers in NASCAR and golf and they’re both going down the drain as well:



NASCAR is struggling to adapt to a changing sports climate - SBNation.com

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/1/11/14054898/nascar-ratings-attendance-decline

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/the-masters-had-its-lowest-tv-rating-in-13-years-why
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: Anna Recksiek on October 01, 2017, 04:58:45 PM
In 2009 the nfl started getting paid to have players come out and salute the flag or stand around with their hands on their hearts or whatever. Before then the players would wait for the anthem to play then come out of the locker room to play. Now it's biting their ass to have players not stand for the anthem.

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/yp89dj/stephen-a-smith-points-out-nfls-paid-patriotism-problem
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 01, 2017, 05:03:20 PM
Personally, I can't wait for the TV ratings tomorrow to see how much further they've dropped. They need a wake up call.
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: Straw Man on October 01, 2017, 05:15:30 PM
Personally, I can't wait for the TV ratings tomorrow to see how much further they've dropped. They need a wake up call.

damn, you have a really boring life

I hope these guys keep choosing to express their political beliefs, if only to watch idiots like you get all worked up about it (and even more so for the idiot currently occupying the White House)

Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 05:28:40 PM
Whatever the reason, lets hope sports continue to decline with the eventual elimination of at least the major sports.
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 01, 2017, 05:35:10 PM
It’s not an easy time for strength and conditioning coaches as they watch their cash cow go down the toilet.

They make more in College football anyway of course depending on the school and division.
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 01, 2017, 05:37:40 PM
Whatever the reason, lets hope sports continue to decline with the eventual elimination of at least the major sports.

Says the econ genius.  ::)
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 05:40:27 PM
Says the econ genius.  ::)

You don't have to be an economics expert to know that society will go on without sports, although it will definitely take some adjustment. You're acting like society will cease to be with the elimination of sports. Will society just blink out of existence without sports? Times will perhaps be tough when it first occurs; but humans will adjust. We always have.

Further, you don't know shit about science and/or research, yet you talk about it. So, I guess I don't have to know shit about economics to talk about it. See how that works.
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 01, 2017, 05:58:48 PM
You don't have to be an economics expert to know that society will go on without sports, although it will definitely take some adjustment.

Further, you don't know shit about science and/or research, yet you talk about it. So, I guess I don't have to know shit about economics to talk about it. See how that works.

How the fuck do you know what I know or don't know? What the fuck makes you think that I don't HAVE to keep up with certain studies that are related to precisely this because 1. I work with over 170 kids a day, on the side lines at games along with the AT, Chiro, Ortho a long with my own business that we STAFF medical disciplines that are certified in concussion protocol along with OUR OWN AT, Chiro and PT with an offsite Ortho at our disposal. Tell you what hot shot, the next time we (MPF) holds another yearly seminar addressing concussions, I'll let you and then you fly your scientific ass our or send one your west coast surrogates out here to observe.

Just for the record, as a coach as with all HS coaches, we are required by the state to learn the protocol and be tested on it and be certified in the protocol, signs and symptoms....it's more of a formality than anything.  

You have ask out of all the years we've known about concussions, now just within the 5 or so years all of the sudden you have all of these lawsuits coming out of nowhere. Now, another lawsuit that will be pending that Aaron Hernandez' concussions caused his actions.........give me a fucking break
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on October 01, 2017, 06:09:05 PM
How the fuck do you know what I know or don't know? What the fuck makes you think that I don't HAVE to keep up with certain studies that are related to precisely this because 1. I work with over 170 kids a day, on the side lines at games along with the AT, Chiro, Ortho a long with my own business that we STAFF medical disciplines that are certified in concussion protocol along with OUR OWN AT, Chiro and PT with an offsite Ortho at our disposal. Tell you what hot shot, the next time we (MPF) holds another yearly seminar addressing concussions, I'll let you and then you fly your scientific ass our or send one your west coast surrogates out here to observe.

Just for the record, as a coach as with all HS coaches, we are required by the state to learn the protocol and be tested on it and be certified in the protocol, signs and symptoms....it's more of a formality than anything.  
What a load of shit.
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 06:14:23 PM
How the fuck do you know what I know or don't know? What the fuck makes you think that I don't HAVE to keep up with certain studies that are related to precisely this because 1. I work with over 170 kids a day, on the side lines at games along with the AT, Chiro, Ortho a long with my own business that we STAFF medical disciplines that are certified in concussion protocol along with OUR OWN AT, Chiro and PT with an offsite Ortho at our disposal. Tell you what hot shot, the next time we (MPF) holds another yearly seminar addressing concussions, I'll let you and then you fly your scientific ass our or send one your west coast surrogates out here to observe.

Just for the record, as a coach as with all HS coaches, we are required by the state to learn the protocol and be tested on it and be certified in the protocol, signs and symptoms....it's more of a formality than anything.  

You have ask out of all the years we've known about concussions, now just within the 5 or so years all of the sudden you have all of these lawsuits coming out of nowhere. Now, another lawsuit that will be pending that Aaron Hernandez' concussions caused his actions.........give me a fucking break

1) How the fuck do you know what I know or don't know? How do you know I don't have a minor in Economics? If you can indirectly assert that I know nothing of economics (by rolling your eyes), than I can indirectly assert that you know nothing about science/research. You make a blind assertion. I make a blind assertion in return. See how that works?

2) When I talk about not knowing anything about science and research, I am talking about examining the underpinnings of research methodology and/or statistics in order to determine the validity and/or reliability of a study. Sure, you can comprehend the basics of what the article says (X works or Y doesn't work). However, you do not understand the underlying research methodology and/or statistics that drew that conclusion. You don't understand why someone would use a Chi-Square vs. MANOVA vs. Regression Analysis vs. Mann-Whitney U Test vs. T-test vs. Spearman/Pearson Correlation, etc. You wouldn't understand how to interpret an effect size to determine the strength of the relationship between two variables. Hate to break it to you, but the average person can open up a research article and read the conclusion section. Understanding science is more than just understanding what the conclusion of an article says (Bench pressing builds pecs). The fact that you did not mention any of the above terms, leads me to believe you know the VERY basics of science (how to read the conclusion section). Congratulations, you can read the abstract and conclusion of a science paper. However, that is not what I am referring to when discussing a true understanding of science and research. When professionals discuss science, they just do not examine the conclusion section (overview of results); they examine EVERYTHING in the article, including the underlying research methodology/ and or statistical procedures in order to accurately determine how accurate the results are. You can't do that, hence you take the results at face value.
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 01, 2017, 06:48:24 PM
1) How the fuck do you know what I know or don't know? How do you know I don't have a minor in Economics? If you can indirectly assert that I know nothing of economics (by rolling your eyes), than I can indirectly assert that you know nothing about science/research. You make a blind assertion. I make a blind assertion in return. See how that works?

Case in point right here. I'm assuming you have a minor in econ but seem to favor liberal theories of economics that clearly have never worked in the long run. I've mentioned one my athletes that graduated with a degree in Economics from UCLA yet voted for a socialist in Bernie Sanders. Feel free to explain this?  

2) When I talk about not knowing anything about science and research, I am talking about examining the underpinnings of research methodology and/or statistics in order to determine the validity and/or reliability of a study. Sure, you can comprehend the basics of what the article says (X works or Y doesn't work). However, you do not understand the underlying research methodology and/or statistics that drew that conclusion. You don't understand why someone would use a Chi-Square vs. MANOVA vs. Regression Analysis vs. Mann-Whitney U Test vs. T-test vs. Spearman/Pearson Correlation, etc. You wouldn't understand how to interpret an effect size to determine the strength of the relationship between two variables. Hate to break it to you, but the average person can open up a research article and read the conclusion section. Understanding science is more than just understanding what the conclusion of an article says (Bench pressing builds pecs). The fact that you did not mention any of the above terms, leads me to believe you know the VERY basics of science (how to read the conclusion section). Congratulations, you can read the abstract and conclusion of a science paper. However, that is not what I am referring to when discussing a true understanding of science and research. When professionals discuss science, they just do not examine the conclusion section (overview of results); they examine EVERYTHING in the article, including the underlying research methodology/ and or statistical procedures in order to accurately determine how accurate the results are. You can't do that, hence you take the results at face value.

Not going to deny you're mostly right in your assumption but I do take the time to get into the study other than the abstract and conclusions and to determine what I feel is correct or off,  but that in no way means certain studies are not bias. Very few studies are conclusive. But when I'm talking about studies, I'm not referring to concussion prevention, I'm referring to PCS (Post Concussion Syndrome) that can be detected years after a players retirement. These are the studies that are the cause of the sudden influx of lawsuits. My conclusion to this is, the studies are much like Global Warming studies where most are left bias studies.
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: SF1900 on October 01, 2017, 07:01:02 PM
Not going to deny you're mostly right in your assumption but I do take the time to get into the study other than the abstract and conclusions and to determine what I feel is correct or off,  but that in no way means certain studies are not bias. Very few studies are conclusive. But when I'm talking about studies, I'm not referring to concussion prevention, I'm referring to PCS (Post Concussion Syndrome) that can be detected years after a players retirement.

Who wrote that in red?

Anyway, I don't know much about economics; I know how to pay my bills on time, save money and have more than enough money to live a happy life. That's about it in terms of economics. I mean, I know the very basic of economics, just like you know the very basics of science. Just accept it for what it is. Lets not pretend to know any more than we do.

How do you determine what is correct or not, if you do not understand research methodology and/or statistics?  ??? ??? For example, how do you determine if the researcher should have used an ANOVA instead of a MANCOVA? You cannot determine if the research methodology is appropriate if you do not understand these terms.

No science paper in any peer-reviewed journal would say their results are conclusive in the strict sense. Show me one instance where a scientist said in a peer-reviewed journals, "My results are conclusive. There is nothing left to study." You will not find this. Science is about PROGRESS and learning MORE.

Of course studies are biased. And studies are BIASED in EVERY field. You know how you determine if a research paper is biased? By understanding the research methodology and/or statistics. This allows you to accept results from studies that have the most sound research methodology and statistics and disregard those research papers with poor methodology and statistics.
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: The True Adonis on October 01, 2017, 07:08:43 PM
This is liberalism out to destroy football and soon to be sports in general. Think about it. Concussions are real but now there are questions about the validity of some of this research being bias. Then there are the changing of the rules in the NFL about the intensity of the game and if a player hits another the wrong way, it's a fine or an ejection or both. The game is played softer and players are pissed and now there is this total 100% bullshit fabrication much like the "hands up don't shoot" narrative and even though it's already destroying the game (and there are MUCH more people against the kneeling and blatant disrespect ) yet still the players, coaches and the NFL higher ups continue to let this happen. So the question should be , what's REALLY going on?

Liberalism literally destroys everything it gets it's hands on.

NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during national anthem
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2017/10/01/nfls-week-4-sees-more-kneeling-during-national-anthem.html

And yet here you are, still watching and supporting this shit.

Find something else to lust after.
Title: Re: NFL's Week 4 sees dozens of NFL players kneel, raise fists during the anthem
Post by: jude2 on October 01, 2017, 07:30:49 PM
From what I've read, it seems that most Americans are siding with Trump on the 'Trump vs NFL' issue.
This is one of his easiest wins.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Ron on October 01, 2017, 07:36:50 PM

Well - it was easy today - did not watch nor care to watch any football game with players disrespecting our anthem.  So did a lot of my friends out here who just know that unless they stop buying, watching  and giving money to the teams, nothing will happen.

At least with the NBA, they have a rule that expressly tells that the players and coaches have to stand during the anthem - respect.  NFL is losing credibilty quickly.

Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: dj181 on October 02, 2017, 03:52:07 AM
nfsmell
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: LittleJ on October 02, 2017, 06:34:13 AM
Well - it was easy today - did not watch nor care to watch any football game with players disrespecting our anthem.  So did a lot of my friends out here who just know that unless they stop buying, watching  and giving money to the teams, nothing will happen.

At least with the NBA, they have a rule that expressly tells that the players and coaches have to stand during the anthem - respect.  NFL is losing credibilty quickly.



This is great news. You can finally join a gym now.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: polychronopolous on October 02, 2017, 06:41:33 AM
This is great news. You can finally join a gym now.

I guess you didn't read that last part concerning "respect" in his post.

Perhaps you could learn a little.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2017, 06:44:58 AM
I guess you didn't read that last part concerning "respect" in his post.

Perhaps you could learn a little.

Don't count on it, he's a Jigg.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Henda on October 02, 2017, 06:54:04 AM
This is great news. You can finally join a gym now.

Had someone suggested you join a gym you would somehow make out it’s racist and hit the complain to mod button and whine about it for the next 2 years
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Powerlift66 on October 02, 2017, 08:45:06 AM
Barry O - Disrespecting...

Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 08:58:26 AM
Seahawks Blowout Win Sees ‘Sunday Night Football’ Ratings Down, Again

http://deadline.com/2017/10/seahawks-win-sunday-night-football-ratings-down-nfl-nbc-1202180352/
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 02, 2017, 09:11:57 AM
Barry O - Disrespecting...



(http://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/newshour/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/RTX1YVA8-1024x670.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: residue on October 02, 2017, 09:34:30 AM
Seahawks Blowout Win Sees ‘Sunday Night Football’ Ratings Down, Again

http://deadline.com/2017/10/seahawks-win-sunday-night-football-ratings-down-nfl-nbc-1202180352/

no one is going to watch the colts play
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: mazrim on October 02, 2017, 09:36:19 AM
(http://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/newshour/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/RTX1YVA8-1024x670.jpg)
That's just weird, Ted.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2017, 10:23:56 AM
That's just weird, Ted.

Ted is fondling his nipple.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 10:26:56 AM
no one is going to watch the colts play

But it was against Seattle. They are a popular enough team.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Powerlift66 on October 02, 2017, 10:36:01 AM
(http://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/newshour/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/RTX1YVA8-1024x670.jpg)

 :D
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 02, 2017, 10:42:41 AM
no one is going to watch the colts play

As I’ve said, it’s more than just these guys kneeling. The NFL had become an ordeal to watch. An 8 o’clock game sometimes doesn’t end until midnight. It’s a one hour freaking game. So you’re getting a little bits of a game in between tons of nonsense. They can’t go five minutes without some stupid sideline interview.

It’s really just another example of an old-school media company not being able to adapt well to the new fast paced internet environment.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: jude2 on October 02, 2017, 06:20:49 PM
Well - it was easy today - did not watch nor care to watch any football game with players disrespecting our anthem.  So did a lot of my friends out here who just know that unless they stop buying, watching  and giving money to the teams, nothing will happen.

At least with the NBA, they have a rule that expressly tells that the players and coaches have to stand during the anthem - respect.  NFL is losing credibilty quickly.


Doesn't the NFL have it in their rule book that they are supposed to stand to attention during it? THey just refuse to obey
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: LittleJ on October 02, 2017, 06:27:51 PM
Doesn't the NFL have it in their rule book that they are supposed to stand to attention during it? THey just refuse to obey

No
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: jude2 on October 02, 2017, 06:35:41 PM
No
Are you sure? I thought someone posted it. THe section and number. 
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Nails on October 02, 2017, 06:36:34 PM
That is the NBA, not the NFL

Are you sure? I thought someone posted it. THe section and number. 
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: jude2 on October 02, 2017, 06:51:08 PM
I just read it in NFL league rule book pages A62-63. Could it be a fake rule book?
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 06:55:01 PM
I just read it in NFL league rule book pages A62-63. Could it be a fake rule book?

I just downloaded the PDF version of the rule book and there is no such rule.

From website:

The post claims that the rule can be found on page "A62-63 of the NFL rulebook." As our friends down at AL.com have noted, a look at the actual NFL rulebook reveals otherwise. First off, there is no "A62 or 63."

Page 62 pertains to the enforcement of 15 yard penalties, special exceptions for 15-yard penalties and ejections. Page 63 focuses on penalties for illegal kicks and batting the ball.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2017, 06:59:01 PM
I just read it in NFL league rule book pages A62-63. Could it be a fake rule book?

Source?
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: jude2 on October 02, 2017, 06:59:17 PM
See there is so much damn fake news these days.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 02, 2017, 07:31:24 PM
I downloaded the entire NFL rules and regulations on here somewhere
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 02, 2017, 09:59:00 PM
I just read it in NFL league rule book pages A62-63. Could it be a fake rule book?

Yes, it could. It is designed to fool  people who don't read past a meme.  Good news is, you're not  alone. Lot's of people fell for it
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 02, 2017, 10:09:39 PM
Yes, it could. It is designed to fool  people who don't read past a meme.  Good news is, you're not  alone. Lot's of people fell for it

I posted the book earlier. I have a hard copy in my office along with the CBA if you'd like me to send it.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 02, 2017, 10:11:21 PM
I posted the book earlier. I have a hard copy in my office along with the CBA if you'd like me to send it.
I have read the 2017 rule book cover to cover .. you haven't or you wouldn't be having this ridiculous conversation
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 02, 2017, 10:32:08 PM
I have read the 2017 rule book cover to cover .. you haven't or you wouldn't be having this ridiculous conversation
I have read the 2017 rule book cover to cover .. you haven't or you wouldn't be having this ridiculous conversation

I haven't? lol
 Like I said. I have the hard copy at my office along the with the CBA sent to me by the NFLPA.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 02, 2017, 11:00:34 PM
I haven't? lol
 Like I said. I have the hard copy at my office along the with the CBA sent to me by the NFLPA.


wouldn't be a hardship for you to copy and post a copy then...specifically addressing the anthem 
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Royalty on October 03, 2017, 12:20:21 AM
Is the NFL's $1.5 Billion deal with Anheuser-Busch in jeapordy?

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2017/10/02/anheuser-busch-seeks-feedback-over-nfl-sponsorship-over-anthem-protests/723331001/
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: The Scott on October 03, 2017, 04:06:23 AM
Is the NFL's $1.5 Billion deal with Anheuser-Busch in jeapordy?

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2017/10/02/anheuser-busch-seeks-feedback-over-nfl-sponsorship-over-anthem-protests/723331001/

Let's hope so.  Let's hope everyone pulls their sponsorship. Fuck the NFL. 
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on October 03, 2017, 06:43:09 AM
Take a Knee = Take a bat to the head
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Griffith on October 03, 2017, 06:49:00 AM
'Bend the knee!'

Game of Thrones style, all those fools like they are pledging loyalty to their King and Lord.

Would be funny if Trump was standing in the box in front of all those kneeling attention whores.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: polychronopolous on October 03, 2017, 07:30:44 AM
Take a Knee = Take a bat to the head

Or a load to the face
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: residue on October 03, 2017, 07:49:48 AM
But it was against Seattle. They are a popular enough team.

small market team, blowout game. 
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: residue on October 03, 2017, 07:56:39 AM
As I’ve said, it’s more than just these guys kneeling. The NFL had become an ordeal to watch. An 8 o’clock game sometimes doesn’t end until midnight. It’s a one hour freaking game. So you’re getting a little bits of a game in between tons of nonsense. They can’t go five minutes without some stupid sideline interview.

It’s really just another example of an old-school media company not being able to adapt well to the new fast paced internet environment.

baseball is even worse
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 03, 2017, 10:00:43 AM
I just downloaded the PDF version of the rule book and there is no such rule.

From website:

The post claims that the rule can be found on page "A62-63 of the NFL rulebook." As our friends down at AL.com have noted, a look at the actual NFL rulebook reveals otherwise. First off, there is no "A62 or 63."

Page 62 pertains to the enforcement of 15 yard penalties, special exceptions for 15-yard penalties and ejections. Page 63 focuses on penalties for illegal kicks and batting the ball.


exactly. I believe I could post anything under the guise it is true and a great majority would share it as gospel as long as it is something they already agree with
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2017, 10:09:23 AM
exactly. I believe I could post anything under the guise it is true and a great majority would share it as gospel as long as it is something they already agree with

That is the league rules that I found online as a PDF. If Coach is making an assertion, then he should at least provide evidence.

According to other sources, there is no rule requiring players to stand.

If I am wrong, then I am wrong. Heck, it just needs to be put to rest.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: LittleJ on October 03, 2017, 11:07:14 AM
No more nfl= more people coach can train.

You should be happy  ???
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 03, 2017, 12:32:03 PM
That is the league rules that I found online as a PDF. If Coach is making an assertion, then he should at least provide evidence.

According to other sources, there is no rule requiring players to stand.

If I am wrong, then I am wrong. Heck, it just needs to be put to rest.

You're not wrong, Coach won't be back to this thread.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Royalty on October 03, 2017, 12:39:55 PM
baseball is even worse


I like baseball.

But that video was funny
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 03, 2017, 02:55:56 PM
I like baseball.

But that video was funny

Not much new under the sun. This is from Kentucky fried movie. Ironically, Detroit is even worse today.



Residue is correct about baseball. The average age of the fan is about 55. Young people have no interest in it.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Shizzo on October 03, 2017, 02:56:12 PM
No more nfl= more people coach can train.

You should be happy  ???
I disagree. Coach does not have a good reputation in other sports.....

(http://i50.tinypic.com/kehrmd.gif)

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/518441/glass-joe-knockout-o.gif)
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 03, 2017, 07:08:32 PM
wouldn't be a hardship for you to copy and post a copy then...specifically addressing the anthem  

Like I said. The link is here. It's the same damn book.

http://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2017-nfl-rulebook/
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: LittleJ on October 03, 2017, 07:18:40 PM
I wonder what some of his athletes would think if they see what he says on here.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2017, 07:40:50 PM
Like I said. The link is here. It's the same damn book.

http://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2017-nfl-rulebook/

Serious, I could not find anything on the anthem. Where is it?
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 03, 2017, 07:47:37 PM
Serious, I could not find anything on the anthem. Where is it?

I don't know. I'm the one not arguing if it's in there or not. I'm just saying I have a hard copy of the same rule book CBA.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 03, 2017, 07:49:53 PM
I disagree. Coach does not have a good reputation in other sports.....

(http://i50.tinypic.com/kehrmd.gif)

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/518441/glass-joe-knockout-o.gif)

He's 42 On a  five fight win streak with an up coming title bout in January.....you genetic reject.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2017, 07:56:15 PM
I don't know. I'm the one not arguing if it's in there or not. I'm just saying I have a hard copy of the same rule book CBA.

Okay, well it's not. There is no requirement that a player has to stand for the flag.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 08:00:22 PM
You said you read it cover to cover.

So what is it? Are they obligated to participate in the National Anthem or not?

or did you mean by reading from cover to cover only the front cover and the back cover of the book?

I don't know. I'm the one not arguing if it's in there or not. I'm just saying I have a hard copy of the same rule book CBA.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2017, 08:15:37 PM
I haven't? lol
 Like I said. I have the hard copy at my office along the with the CBA sent to me by the NFLPA.


These statements imply that you read it.

Either way, there is no requirement.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 03, 2017, 08:16:36 PM
Okay, well it's not. There is no requirement that a player has to stand for the flag.

I'm quite sure there's separate player code conduct book or something. Regardless, its disrespectful and a lie. You have your liberal views as wrong as they are. Trump was proven right and the NFL is taking a hit for it.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Nails on October 03, 2017, 08:17:51 PM
There is no code, there is no rule, there is no fine.
 
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 03, 2017, 08:28:22 PM
There is no code, there is no rule, there is no fine.
 

I'm sure there is. Again, hundreds of millions already lost because of lies by the left.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2017, 08:41:53 PM
I'm quite sure there's separate player code conduct book or something. Regardless, its disrespectful and a lie. You have your liberal views as wrong as they are. Trump was proven right and the NFL is taking a hit for it.

I doubt it. It appears there is no rule. Asserting something without evidence means absolutely nothing.

I never said I agreed with them kneeling, so I don't know what your idiotic comment about liberal views and lies is about. I have a broad range of views on many topics--you don't know what my views are on most topics. Then again, you also assumed you knew about science and research because you read the results of a study lol. So no surprise you are the type to make assumptions lol.

Your conservative views are just as wrong on most issues.

Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 03, 2017, 08:43:13 PM
I doubt it. It appears there is no rule. Asserting something without evidence means absolutely nothing.

I never said I agreed with them kneeling, so I don't know what your idiotic comment about liberal views and lies is about. I have a broad range of views on many topics--you don't know what my views are on most topics. Then again, you also assumed you knew about science and research because you read the results of a study lol. So no surprise you are the type to make assumptions lol.

Your conservative views are just as wrong on most issues.



Yes, of course they are that's why almost all liberal policies fail.....


https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/25/does-nfl-require-players-stand-national-anthem
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2017, 08:46:30 PM
Yes, of course they are that's why almost all liberal policies fail.....


https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/25/does-nfl-require-players-stand-national-anthem

But you keep saying they are my liberal views. They aren't "mine." They don't belong to me. My views are broad range and change depending on the best available evidence,

Again, I've never stated I agree with them kneeling. You will not find one post indicating this.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 03, 2017, 08:49:51 PM
But you keep saying they are my liberal views. They aren't "mine." They don't belong to me. My views are broad range and change depending on the best available evidence,

Again, I've never stated I agree with them kneeling. You will not find one post indicating this.

Oh brother  ::)
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2017, 08:55:36 PM
But you keep saying they are my liberal views. They aren't "mine." They don't belong to me. My views are broad range and change depending on the best available evidence,

Again, I've never stated I agree with them kneeling. You will not find one post indicating this.

The rule states:

"The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses."

First, there is NO requirement to stand. It states, "During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking." The KEYWORD is "SHOULD."

Definition of the word "should:"

1) to express obligation, propriety, or expediency
2) to express what is probable or expected

So, are they OBLIGATED (definition 1) or EXPECTED (definition 2) to stand? The NFL is not specific what "Should stand" means. As such, there is no requirement. Saying someone "should" do something does not mean its a requirement. For example, Shizzo should become a better poster, but it doesn't mean he is required to do so. Shizzo should also eat more vegetables to improve his health, however, he is not required to do so.

Second, it says they "MAY" be fined. Usually when something is required or obligated, there are clear repercussions for violating the obligation. There is not.

The language is vague and there is no indication that there is a REQUIREMENT to stand, since the word "should" is not clearly defined.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 03, 2017, 08:59:02 PM
I'm sure there is. Again, hundreds of millions already lost because of lies by the left.

Oh my fuckin God... what a moron... you have zero credibility at this point.. you have no clue, yet you hope it exists, therefore it exists and those offering evidence it doesn't.. are lying liberals... jesus H Christ... 
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2017, 09:01:15 PM
Oh my fuckin God... what a moron... you have zero credibility at this point.. you have no clue, yet you hope it exists, therefore it exists and those offering evidence it doesn't.. are lying liberals... jesus H Christ... 

He did post something above from a players manual or something. However, the "rule" is vague and there is no indication that standing is a requirement. It says players "SHOULD" stand. "Should" can denote many things, from an obligation to an expectation.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 03, 2017, 09:04:34 PM
He did post something above from a players manual or something. However, the "rule" is vague and there is no indication that standing is a requirement. It says players "SHOULD" stand. "Should" can denote many things, from an obligation to an expectation.

Where did the anthem guidelines come from? What is the source?
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 03, 2017, 09:06:08 PM
Where did the anthem guidelines come from? What is the source?

Update - The NFL Game Operations Manual DOES state that:

"The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses."

Please note, the meme going around several days ago said it was in the Official NFL Rulebook which is different from the Game Operations Manual. The Rulebook handles the rules of the game. The Game Operations Manual handles how teams and players should conduct themselve
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 04, 2017, 01:50:01 AM
The wording leaves a lot of wiggle room. That the teams or the league “may” fine or suspend players doesn’t mean that they have to do so.

Whether you think it’s disrespectful or not, these players have a right to protest the fact that the demographic that commits a disproportionate amout of crime has a higher than average incarceration rate.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 04, 2017, 08:50:55 AM
The wording leaves a lot of wiggle room. That the teams or the league “may” fine or suspend players doesn’t mean that they have to do so.

Whether you think it’s disrespectful or not, these players have a right to protest the fact that the demographic that commits a disproportionate amout of crime has a higher than average incarceration rate.

In legal writing there is may, shall, will, should... Shall and will are enforceable, Shall and should are not.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 04, 2017, 09:12:31 AM
Update - The NFL Game Operations Manual DOES state that:

"The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses."

Please note, the meme going around several days ago said it was in the Official NFL Rulebook which is different from the Game Operations Manual. The Rulebook handles the rules of the game. The Game Operations Manual handles how teams and players should conduct themselve

This happened in 2009 at the same time that the US military started paying the NFL for advertising.  Did you know that the NFL's military appreciation day was paid for by the military?
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 04, 2017, 09:20:54 AM
So, basically, all-in-all, there is no requirement that mandates players to stand for the Anthem. The NFL's description is vague with a lot of words such as "Should stand" and "May have fines imposed."

This doesn't sound like a mandate to me.

Now, whether or not its moral or immoral to stand is a different issue. However, from a rule-based perspective, there is no rule that requires a mandate to stand.

Next.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 04, 2017, 09:22:18 AM
This happened in 2009 at the same time that the US military started paying the NFL for advertising.  Did you know that the NFL's military appreciation day was paid for by the military?

Oh, that's interesting.

Like I said, the NFL doesn't care about the military. It really all comes down to money for the NFL. There is no deep appreciation for anything.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: funk51 on October 04, 2017, 09:50:34 AM
 ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 04, 2017, 10:08:16 AM
All you have to do is look at the NFL numbers ($$) dropping and see for yourself that the leftists are wrong again and this is about a blatant disrespect of flag and country. Their might be a few but the majority of liberals HATE the military and also show a blatant disrespect for cops. It's funny that we have a cop posting in this thread and BECAUSE he's a liberal.....can't see it.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Ted SuperSet on October 04, 2017, 10:13:16 AM
😂😂😂😂

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/09/22/donald-trump-blasts-nfl-flag-kneeling-get-sob-field

Stfu dwarf
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Nails on October 04, 2017, 10:14:29 AM

how do you live with yourself not being able to make left turns in your car, or do left hand side dumbell curls ?


All you have to do is look at the NFL numbers ($$) dropping and see for yourself that the leftists are wrong again and this is about a blatant disrespect of flag and country. Their might be a few but the majority of liberals HATE the military and also show a blatant disrespect for cops. It's funny that we have a cop posting in this thread and BECAUSE he's a liberal.....can't see it.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 04, 2017, 10:15:51 AM
All you have to do is look at the NFL numbers ($$) dropping and see for yourself that the leftists are wrong again and this is about a blatant disrespect of flag and country. Their might be a few but the majority of liberals HATE the military and also show a blatant disrespect for cops. It's funny that we have a cop posting in this thread and BECAUSE he's a liberal.....can't see it.

Dude, what is wrong with you?  Lol

You said that standing for the anthem is a requirement. This was implied by the statement you posted.  It is not! You were proven wrong about that particular statement. Just admit it.

Your above statement is a separate issue than when you stated that they are required to stand according to NFL rules.

Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 04, 2017, 10:18:41 AM
Dude, what is wrong with you?  Lol

You said that standing for the anthem is a requirement. This was implied by the statement you posted.  It is not! You were proven wrong about that particular statement. Just admit it.



LOL.....you do the same thing. You imply shit all the time and then comeback and tell us "thats not what I said". Bitch please.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 04, 2017, 10:19:46 AM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/10/03/trump-effect-cnn-confirms-data-showing-trump-is-right-about-anthem-protests-torpedoing-nfls-ratings-n2389355
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 04, 2017, 10:23:04 AM
LOL.....you do the same thing. You imply shit all the time and then comeback and tell us "thats not what I said". Bitch please.

You were wrong. There is no requirement.

And we already know NFL ratings are down. One can only hope this trend continues.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 04, 2017, 08:54:16 PM
All you have to do is look at the NFL numbers ($$) dropping and see for yourself that the leftists are wrong again and this is about a blatant disrespect of flag and country. Their might be a few but the majority of liberals HATE the military and also show a blatant disrespect for cops. It's funny that we have a cop posting in this thread and BECAUSE he's a liberal.....can't see it.

A majority of conservatives have girlfriends behind their wives backs...
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 04, 2017, 11:04:51 PM
A majority of conservatives have girlfriends behind their wives backs...

Stats?
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 04, 2017, 11:17:42 PM
All you have to do is look at the NFL numbers ($$) dropping and see for yourself that the leftists are wrong again and this is about a blatant disrespect of flag and country. Their might be a few but the majority of liberals HATE the military and also show a blatant disrespect for cops. It's funny that we have a cop posting in this thread and BECAUSE he's a liberal.....can't see it.

Stats?
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Powerlift66 on October 05, 2017, 06:31:37 AM
"A majority of conservatives have girlfriends behind their wives backs... "

 ::)
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Kwon on October 05, 2017, 06:36:01 AM
A majority of conservatives have girlfriends behind their wives backs...

Obama is a coke sniffing ball washing homo

Bodybuiling is "The Ghey"...

Obumer is an effeminate self loathing cowardly cuckold
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 05, 2017, 10:56:45 AM
Stats?


1) “In Vietnam, our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby killers, in shame and humiliation. It isn’t happening now, but I will tell you, there has never been an [American] army as violent and murderous as our army has been in Iraq.” —Seymour Hersh

2) “I haven't seen American Sniper, but correct me if I'm wrong: An occupier mows down faceless Iraqis but the real victim is his anguished soul.” – Max Blumenthal


3) “Put a man in uniform, preferably a white man, give him a gun, and Americans will worship him. It is a particularly childish trait, of a childlike culture, that insists on anointing all active military members and police officers as ‘heroes.’ The rhetorical sloppiness and intellectual shallowness of affixing such a reverent label to everyone in the military or law enforcement betrays a frightening cultural streak of nationalism, chauvinism, authoritarianism and totalitarianism, but it also makes honest and serious conversations necessary for the maintenance and enhancement of a fragile democracy nearly impossible….” -- David Masciotra at Salon

4) “American fighters of the Pacific War were not heroes. The desperation of island combat included exchanged barbarities of which no one would willingly speak for a generation. On the American side, there were foul racism, vengeful refusals to take prisoners, a generalized brutality that extended to a savage air war.” —James Carrollin the Boston Globe



5) “…(P)erhaps some readers will understand why my friends and I rip yellow ribbon ‘support the troops’ magnets off of cars or wherever people have affixed them. By ripping off these ribbons, we find a way to deal with our guilt, as though with each ribbon swiped we take back a life that was taken by this senseless war started by our senseless president and those who support him.

I will never say, ‘support the troops.’ I don’t believe in the validity of that statement. People say, ‘I don’t support the war, I support the troops’ as though you can actually separate the two. You cannot; the troops are a part of the war, they have become the war and there is no valid dissection of the two. Other people shout with glaring eyes that we should give up our politics, give up our political affiliations in favor of ‘just supporting the troops.’ I wish everything were that easy.” —Thomas Naughton at the Daily Collegian

6) "Forget bringing the troops home from Iraq. We need to get the troops home from World War II. Can anybody tell me why, in 2009, we still have more than sixty thousand troops in Germany and thirty thousand in Japan? At some point, these people are going to have to learn to rape themselves." – Bill Maher


7) “My uncle killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers aren’t heroes. And invaders r worse.”— Michael Moore

8) “What outrages me as a representative of journalists is that there’s not more outrage about the number, and the brutality, and the cavalier nature of the U.S. military toward the killing of journalists in Iraq….They target and kill journalists … uh, from other countries, particularly Arab countries like Al -, like Arab news services like Al-Jazeera, for example. They actually target them and blow up their studios with impunity….” — Newspaper Guild President Linda Foley

9) “Democrat flaks jump on this like ducks on a June-bug, and in the process themselves reproduce the sick militarism of this culture that automatically valorizes anyone who wears a uniform. How dare you insult a soldier! Like its some sacred calling instead of an imperial employment program steeped in the culture of machismo and misogyny.(And you can gasp as theatrically as you want… I spent more than two decades wearing a uniform… that is exactly what it is.)” —Stan Goff at the Huffington Post


10) “Is your enemy the state?
Befriend a recruiter and keep your friends close and your enemies closer!…

This campaign is not about (badgering?) recruiters. It is solely about making friends and finding out more about the military that you don’t trust…

Actions to take:…
Prank-call a recruiter to schedule appointments on the other side of town.
Ask a recruiter to pick you up and then tell them you’re hungry.
Ask a recruiter to take you out to eat.” — A flier from Iraq Vets Against the War

11) “THE United States now has a mercenary army. To be sure, our soldiers are hired from within the citizenry, unlike the hated Hessians whom George III recruited to fight against the American Revolutionaries. But like those Hessians, today’s volunteers sign up for some mighty dangerous work largely for wages and benefits….” —David M. Kennedy in the New York Times


12) “You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.” —John Kerry

13) “If a young fella has an option of having a decent career or joining the army to fight in Iraq, you can bet your life that he would not be in Iraq.” —Charles Rangel

14) “For someone who was responsible for, again, nobody knows, but a certain amount of death of innocent people as John McCain was, the time spent in a North Vietnamese prison where he claims to have been tortured was probably time spent that a Catholic priest, for example, would find completely understandable. It’s called doing penance, John. You don’t bomb and kill people for no reason, even when corporate America or your daddy, who was the supreme commander of Southeast Asian forces, South Pacific forces, orders you to do it. You can’t just take orders, we decided that at Nuremberg. So, if you suffered, I am sorry for your suffering, I truly am, in and of itself, but John-John-John, did you think about the suffering of the people you bombed and strafed? They were civilians, you know.” —Mike Malloy

15) “I’m putting my life at risk, literally! And if I slipped… You never know. And I think about it. I think about my family and I’m like, wow, this is like being a police officer or something, in war or something.” —Kanye West

16) “(It’s) very difficult to talk about the war dead and the fallen without invoking valor, without invoking the words ‘heroes.’ I feel … uncomfortable about the word hero because it seems to me that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war.” —Chris Hayes

17) “Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood.” —John Murtha smears the troops on Haditha

18) “The recent shootings at Ft. Hood and the resignation of top Foreign Service officer Matthew Hoh demonstrate how even our military officers are opposed to US strategy in Afghanistan.” —Code Pink

19) "A lot of (Kyle's) stories when he was back home in Texas, a lot of his own personal opinions about what he was doing in Iraq, how he viewed Iraqis. Some of what people have described as his racist tendencies towards Iraqis and Muslims when he was going on some of these, you know, killing sprees in Iraq on assignment. So I think there are issues... When he was involved in his -- on assignments in terms of what he was doing. A lot of the description that has come out from his book and some of the terminology that he has used, people have described as racist." -- MSNBC's Ayman Mohyeldin

20) “Real freedom will come when [U.S.] soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors.” — Warren County Community College adjunct English professor, John Daly

21) “I don’t want to sound like an ad, a public service ad on TV, but the fact is if you can read, you can walk into a job later on. If you don’t, then you’ve got, the Army, Iraq, I don’t know, something like that. It’s, it’s not as bright. So, that’s my little commercial for that.” —Stephen King

22) “Through every Abu aib and Haditha, through every rape and murder, the American public has indulged those in uniform….We pay the soldiers a decent wage, take care of their families, provide them with housing and medical care and vast social support systems and ship obscene amenities into the war zone for them, we support them in every possible way, and their attitude is that we should in addition roll over and play dead, defer to the military and the generals and let them fight their war, and give up our rights and responsibilities to speak up because they are above society?…[T]he recent NBC report is just an ugly reminder of the price we pay for a mercenary — oops sorry, volunteer — force that thinks it is doing the dirty work.” —Washington Post blogger, William Arkin

23) “I think Bowe Bergdahl, if he deserted, is a hero – I think throughout history we should build monuments to the unknown deserters.” – Bill Ayers

24) “Do our government’s poorly paid contract killers deserve our ‘support’ for blindly following orders?” —Ted Rall

25) “For those of you who do, as a matter of principle, oppose war in any form, the idea of supporting a conscientious objector who’s already been inducted [and] in his combat service in Iraq might have a certain appeal. But let me ask you this: Would you render the same support to someone who hadn’t conscientiously objected, but rather instead rolled a grenade under their line officer in order to neutralize the combat capacity of their unit?”

Later, in a question-and-answer period, Churchill was asked whether the trauma “fragging” inflicts on that officer’s family back home should be considered, he responded: “How do you feel about Adolf Eichmann’s family?” — From Ward Churchill via WorldNetDaily

https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2015/02/07/25-quotes-that-show-you-how-much-liberals-hate-soldiers-like-chris-kyle-n1954002

 

Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 05, 2017, 11:02:12 AM
Cam Newton really stuck his foot in his mouth, haha.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 05, 2017, 11:08:14 AM
Cam Newton really stuck his foot in his mouth, haha.

With stuff like this, NFL ratings will continue to decrease.

No one wants to hear football players make jokes or talk about politics or social issues. They are their to catch a ball and run with it. End of story.

Stuff like this is why the NFL will continue to lose sponsors and viewers.

Good riddance.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: SF1900 on October 05, 2017, 05:27:46 PM
I flipped on Thursday night football to see if they would air the anthem and they didn't. It came back to the game after the anthem. haha. NFL really trying to keep viewership alive lol.
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Board_SHERIF on October 05, 2017, 05:30:41 PM
Obama is a coke sniffing ball washing homo

Bodybuiling is "The Ghey"...

Obumer is an effeminate self loathing cowardly cuckold
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: The Ugly on October 05, 2017, 05:39:23 PM

1) “In Vietnam, our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby killers, in shame and humiliation. It isn’t happening now, but I will tell you, there has never been an [American] army as violent and murderous as our army has been in Iraq.” —Seymour Hersh

2) “I haven't seen American Sniper, but correct me if I'm wrong: An occupier mows down faceless Iraqis but the real victim is his anguished soul.” – Max Blumenthal


3) “Put a man in uniform, preferably a white man, give him a gun, and Americans will worship him. It is a particularly childish trait, of a childlike culture, that insists on anointing all active military members and police officers as ‘heroes.’ The rhetorical sloppiness and intellectual shallowness of affixing such a reverent label to everyone in the military or law enforcement betrays a frightening cultural streak of nationalism, chauvinism, authoritarianism and totalitarianism, but it also makes honest and serious conversations necessary for the maintenance and enhancement of a fragile democracy nearly impossible….” -- David Masciotra at Salon

4) “American fighters of the Pacific War were not heroes. The desperation of island combat included exchanged barbarities of which no one would willingly speak for a generation. On the American side, there were foul racism, vengeful refusals to take prisoners, a generalized brutality that extended to a savage air war.” —James Carrollin the Boston Globe



5) “…(P)erhaps some readers will understand why my friends and I rip yellow ribbon ‘support the troops’ magnets off of cars or wherever people have affixed them. By ripping off these ribbons, we find a way to deal with our guilt, as though with each ribbon swiped we take back a life that was taken by this senseless war started by our senseless president and those who support him.

I will never say, ‘support the troops.’ I don’t believe in the validity of that statement. People say, ‘I don’t support the war, I support the troops’ as though you can actually separate the two. You cannot; the troops are a part of the war, they have become the war and there is no valid dissection of the two. Other people shout with glaring eyes that we should give up our politics, give up our political affiliations in favor of ‘just supporting the troops.’ I wish everything were that easy.” —Thomas Naughton at the Daily Collegian

6) "Forget bringing the troops home from Iraq. We need to get the troops home from World War II. Can anybody tell me why, in 2009, we still have more than sixty thousand troops in Germany and thirty thousand in Japan? At some point, these people are going to have to learn to rape themselves." – Bill Maher


7) “My uncle killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers aren’t heroes. And invaders r worse.”— Michael Moore

8) “What outrages me as a representative of journalists is that there’s not more outrage about the number, and the brutality, and the cavalier nature of the U.S. military toward the killing of journalists in Iraq….They target and kill journalists … uh, from other countries, particularly Arab countries like Al -, like Arab news services like Al-Jazeera, for example. They actually target them and blow up their studios with impunity….” — Newspaper Guild President Linda Foley

9) “Democrat flaks jump on this like ducks on a June-bug, and in the process themselves reproduce the sick militarism of this culture that automatically valorizes anyone who wears a uniform. How dare you insult a soldier! Like its some sacred calling instead of an imperial employment program steeped in the culture of machismo and misogyny.(And you can gasp as theatrically as you want… I spent more than two decades wearing a uniform… that is exactly what it is.)” —Stan Goff at the Huffington Post


10) “Is your enemy the state?
Befriend a recruiter and keep your friends close and your enemies closer!…

This campaign is not about (badgering?) recruiters. It is solely about making friends and finding out more about the military that you don’t trust…

Actions to take:…
Prank-call a recruiter to schedule appointments on the other side of town.
Ask a recruiter to pick you up and then tell them you’re hungry.
Ask a recruiter to take you out to eat.” — A flier from Iraq Vets Against the War

11) “THE United States now has a mercenary army. To be sure, our soldiers are hired from within the citizenry, unlike the hated Hessians whom George III recruited to fight against the American Revolutionaries. But like those Hessians, today’s volunteers sign up for some mighty dangerous work largely for wages and benefits….” —David M. Kennedy in the New York Times


12) “You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.” —John Kerry

13) “If a young fella has an option of having a decent career or joining the army to fight in Iraq, you can bet your life that he would not be in Iraq.” —Charles Rangel

14) “For someone who was responsible for, again, nobody knows, but a certain amount of death of innocent people as John McCain was, the time spent in a North Vietnamese prison where he claims to have been tortured was probably time spent that a Catholic priest, for example, would find completely understandable. It’s called doing penance, John. You don’t bomb and kill people for no reason, even when corporate America or your daddy, who was the supreme commander of Southeast Asian forces, South Pacific forces, orders you to do it. You can’t just take orders, we decided that at Nuremberg. So, if you suffered, I am sorry for your suffering, I truly am, in and of itself, but John-John-John, did you think about the suffering of the people you bombed and strafed? They were civilians, you know.” —Mike Malloy

15) “I’m putting my life at risk, literally! And if I slipped… You never know. And I think about it. I think about my family and I’m like, wow, this is like being a police officer or something, in war or something.” —Kanye West

16) “(It’s) very difficult to talk about the war dead and the fallen without invoking valor, without invoking the words ‘heroes.’ I feel … uncomfortable about the word hero because it seems to me that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war.” —Chris Hayes

17) “Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood.” —John Murtha smears the troops on Haditha

18) “The recent shootings at Ft. Hood and the resignation of top Foreign Service officer Matthew Hoh demonstrate how even our military officers are opposed to US strategy in Afghanistan.” —Code Pink

19) "A lot of (Kyle's) stories when he was back home in Texas, a lot of his own personal opinions about what he was doing in Iraq, how he viewed Iraqis. Some of what people have described as his racist tendencies towards Iraqis and Muslims when he was going on some of these, you know, killing sprees in Iraq on assignment. So I think there are issues... When he was involved in his -- on assignments in terms of what he was doing. A lot of the description that has come out from his book and some of the terminology that he has used, people have described as racist." -- MSNBC's Ayman Mohyeldin

20) “Real freedom will come when [U.S.] soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors.” — Warren County Community College adjunct English professor, John Daly

21) “I don’t want to sound like an ad, a public service ad on TV, but the fact is if you can read, you can walk into a job later on. If you don’t, then you’ve got, the Army, Iraq, I don’t know, something like that. It’s, it’s not as bright. So, that’s my little commercial for that.” —Stephen King

22) “Through every Abu aib and Haditha, through every rape and murder, the American public has indulged those in uniform….We pay the soldiers a decent wage, take care of their families, provide them with housing and medical care and vast social support systems and ship obscene amenities into the war zone for them, we support them in every possible way, and their attitude is that we should in addition roll over and play dead, defer to the military and the generals and let them fight their war, and give up our rights and responsibilities to speak up because they are above society?…[T]he recent NBC report is just an ugly reminder of the price we pay for a mercenary — oops sorry, volunteer — force that thinks it is doing the dirty work.” —Washington Post blogger, William Arkin

23) “I think Bowe Bergdahl, if he deserted, is a hero – I think throughout history we should build monuments to the unknown deserters.” – Bill Ayers

24) “Do our government’s poorly paid contract killers deserve our ‘support’ for blindly following orders?” —Ted Rall

25) “For those of you who do, as a matter of principle, oppose war in any form, the idea of supporting a conscientious objector who’s already been inducted [and] in his combat service in Iraq might have a certain appeal. But let me ask you this: Would you render the same support to someone who hadn’t conscientiously objected, but rather instead rolled a grenade under their line officer in order to neutralize the combat capacity of their unit?”

Later, in a question-and-answer period, Churchill was asked whether the trauma “fragging” inflicts on that officer’s family back home should be considered, he responded: “How do you feel about Adolf Eichmann’s family?” — From Ward Churchill via WorldNetDaily

https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2015/02/07/25-quotes-that-show-you-how-much-liberals-hate-soldiers-like-chris-kyle-n1954002

Someone clearly confused by "stats."

(Also, "majority" is >50% in case anyone prods.)
Title: Re: NFL - Trump - Kneeling - Discussion
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 05, 2017, 06:49:49 PM

1) “In Vietnam, our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby killers, in shame and humiliation. It isn’t happening now, but I will tell you, there has never been an [American] army as violent and murderous as our army has been in Iraq.” —Seymour Hersh

2) “I haven't seen American Sniper, but correct me if I'm wrong: An occupier mows down faceless Iraqis but the real victim is his anguished soul.” – Max Blumenthal


3) “Put a man in uniform, preferably a white man, give him a gun, and Americans will worship him. It is a particularly childish trait, of a childlike culture, that insists on anointing all active military members and police officers as ‘heroes.’ The rhetorical sloppiness and intellectual shallowness of affixing such a reverent label to everyone in the military or law enforcement betrays a frightening cultural streak of nationalism, chauvinism, authoritarianism and totalitarianism, but it also makes honest and serious conversations necessary for the maintenance and enhancement of a fragile democracy nearly impossible….” -- David Masciotra at Salon

4) “American fighters of the Pacific War were not heroes. The desperation of island combat included exchanged barbarities of which no one would willingly speak for a generation. On the American side, there were foul racism, vengeful refusals to take prisoners, a generalized brutality that extended to a savage air war.” —James Carrollin the Boston Globe



5) “…(P)erhaps some readers will understand why my friends and I rip yellow ribbon ‘support the troops’ magnets off of cars or wherever people have affixed them. By ripping off these ribbons, we find a way to deal with our guilt, as though with each ribbon swiped we take back a life that was taken by this senseless war started by our senseless president and those who support him.

I will never say, ‘support the troops.’ I don’t believe in the validity of that statement. People say, ‘I don’t support the war, I support the troops’ as though you can actually separate the two. You cannot; the troops are a part of the war, they have become the war and there is no valid dissection of the two. Other people shout with glaring eyes that we should give up our politics, give up our political affiliations in favor of ‘just supporting the troops.’ I wish everything were that easy.” —Thomas Naughton at the Daily Collegian

6) "Forget bringing the troops home from Iraq. We need to get the troops home from World War II. Can anybody tell me why, in 2009, we still have more than sixty thousand troops in Germany and thirty thousand in Japan? At some point, these people are going to have to learn to rape themselves." – Bill Maher


7) “My uncle killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers aren’t heroes. And invaders r worse.”— Michael Moore

8) “What outrages me as a representative of journalists is that there’s not more outrage about the number, and the brutality, and the cavalier nature of the U.S. military toward the killing of journalists in Iraq….They target and kill journalists … uh, from other countries, particularly Arab countries like Al -, like Arab news services like Al-Jazeera, for example. They actually target them and blow up their studios with impunity….” — Newspaper Guild President Linda Foley

9) “Democrat flaks jump on this like ducks on a June-bug, and in the process themselves reproduce the sick militarism of this culture that automatically valorizes anyone who wears a uniform. How dare you insult a soldier! Like its some sacred calling instead of an imperial employment program steeped in the culture of machismo and misogyny.(And you can gasp as theatrically as you want… I spent more than two decades wearing a uniform… that is exactly what it is.)” —Stan Goff at the Huffington Post


10) “Is your enemy the state?
Befriend a recruiter and keep your friends close and your enemies closer!…

This campaign is not about (badgering?) recruiters. It is solely about making friends and finding out more about the military that you don’t trust…

Actions to take:…
Prank-call a recruiter to schedule appointments on the other side of town.
Ask a recruiter to pick you up and then tell them you’re hungry.
Ask a recruiter to take you out to eat.” — A flier from Iraq Vets Against the War

11) “THE United States now has a mercenary army. To be sure, our soldiers are hired from within the citizenry, unlike the hated Hessians whom George III recruited to fight against the American Revolutionaries. But like those Hessians, today’s volunteers sign up for some mighty dangerous work largely for wages and benefits….” —David M. Kennedy in the New York Times


12) “You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.” —John Kerry

13) “If a young fella has an option of having a decent career or joining the army to fight in Iraq, you can bet your life that he would not be in Iraq.” —Charles Rangel

14) “For someone who was responsible for, again, nobody knows, but a certain amount of death of innocent people as John McCain was, the time spent in a North Vietnamese prison where he claims to have been tortured was probably time spent that a Catholic priest, for example, would find completely understandable. It’s called doing penance, John. You don’t bomb and kill people for no reason, even when corporate America or your daddy, who was the supreme commander of Southeast Asian forces, South Pacific forces, orders you to do it. You can’t just take orders, we decided that at Nuremberg. So, if you suffered, I am sorry for your suffering, I truly am, in and of itself, but John-John-John, did you think about the suffering of the people you bombed and strafed? They were civilians, you know.” —Mike Malloy

15) “I’m putting my life at risk, literally! And if I slipped… You never know. And I think about it. I think about my family and I’m like, wow, this is like being a police officer or something, in war or something.” —Kanye West

16) “(It’s) very difficult to talk about the war dead and the fallen without invoking valor, without invoking the words ‘heroes.’ I feel … uncomfortable about the word hero because it seems to me that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war.” —Chris Hayes

17) “Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood.” —John Murtha smears the troops on Haditha

18) “The recent shootings at Ft. Hood and the resignation of top Foreign Service officer Matthew Hoh demonstrate how even our military officers are opposed to US strategy in Afghanistan.” —Code Pink

19) "A lot of (Kyle's) stories when he was back home in Texas, a lot of his own personal opinions about what he was doing in Iraq, how he viewed Iraqis. Some of what people have described as his racist tendencies towards Iraqis and Muslims when he was going on some of these, you know, killing sprees in Iraq on assignment. So I think there are issues... When he was involved in his -- on assignments in terms of what he was doing. A lot of the description that has come out from his book and some of the terminology that he has used, people have described as racist." -- MSNBC's Ayman Mohyeldin

20) “Real freedom will come when [U.S.] soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors.” — Warren County Community College adjunct English professor, John Daly

21) “I don’t want to sound like an ad, a public service ad on TV, but the fact is if you can read, you can walk into a job later on. If you don’t, then you’ve got, the Army, Iraq, I don’t know, something like that. It’s, it’s not as bright. So, that’s my little commercial for that.” —Stephen King

22) “Through every Abu aib and Haditha, through every rape and murder, the American public has indulged those in uniform….We pay the soldiers a decent wage, take care of their families, provide them with housing and medical care and vast social support systems and ship obscene amenities into the war zone for them, we support them in every possible way, and their attitude is that we should in addition roll over and play dead, defer to the military and the generals and let them fight their war, and give up our rights and responsibilities to speak up because they are above society?…[T]he recent NBC report is just an ugly reminder of the price we pay for a mercenary — oops sorry, volunteer — force that thinks it is doing the dirty work.” —Washington Post blogger, William Arkin

23) “I think Bowe Bergdahl, if he deserted, is a hero – I think throughout history we should build monuments to the unknown deserters.” – Bill Ayers

24) “Do our government’s poorly paid contract killers deserve our ‘support’ for blindly following orders?” —Ted Rall

25) “For those of you who do, as a matter of principle, oppose war in any form, the idea of supporting a conscientious objector who’s already been inducted [and] in his combat service in Iraq might have a certain appeal. But let me ask you this: Would you render the same support to someone who hadn’t conscientiously objected, but rather instead rolled a grenade under their line officer in order to neutralize the combat capacity of their unit?”

Later, in a question-and-answer period, Churchill was asked whether the trauma “fragging” inflicts on that officer’s family back home should be considered, he responded: “How do you feel about Adolf Eichmann’s family?” — From Ward Churchill via WorldNetDaily

https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2015/02/07/25-quotes-that-show-you-how-much-liberals-hate-soldiers-like-chris-kyle-n1954002

 



cool post.. didn't make your claim valid