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Just to preface, I wrestled for 6 years, 2 in middle school and all four in high school. I believe wrestling is the truest test of functional strength there is. That being said, very few guys were strong in the weightroom and strong on the mat.
A. Why is that?
B. Which would you rather have?
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weightroom strength
why?
because I don't care about "functional" strength
I have no use for it
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Just to preface, I wrestled for 6 years, 2 in middle school and all four in high school. I believe wrestling is the truest test of functional strength there is. That being said, very few guys were strong in the weightroom and strong on the mat.
A. Why is that?
B. Which would you rather have?
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another formes highschool level ninja turned bodybuilder.
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I have both, and a huge cock.
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Epic reliving the good old highschool days ::)
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Just think how much stronger you would have been if you trained for functional strength in the weight room.
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Just think how much stronger you would have been if you trained for functional strength in the weight room.
And if we join your website there will be a whole host of experts to tell us how to achieve this, right Coach?
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you can tell the woman on the right got a real fat ass!
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Weightroom strength automatically gives you functional strength.
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you can tell the woman on the right got a real fat ass!
MORE TO SLAP,,,,
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In one of the gyms I've trained at there are a few guys I've come to know that have amazing functional strength and train exclusively to develop it. They can peform all kinds of gymnastic style strength movements and press themselves on their fingertips and what not....it's amazing to watch the things they can do and I have a ton of respect for them.
I'm still 2 times stronger than them though LOL.
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I train for weightroom strangth, but practice functional strength all the time. Carrying lots of heavy speakers, furniture, etc, every chance I get. It keeps you strong in ways that weights cannot.
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In college I used to do some work moving furniture and also did some construction work....my weightroom strength made me a million times more efficient than those I worked with.
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:D
another formes highschool level ninja turned bodybuilder.
;D
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Just think how much stronger you would have been if you trained for functional strength in the weight room.
EXACTLY. Sorry to hear you dont get any athletic carryover from your "curls"
Jason
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EXACTLY. Sorry to hear you dont get any athletic carryover from your "curls"
Jason
I guess functional strength was the incorrect term. I don't know how to describe it. When you wrestled someone, some people were easy to move around the matt, while others weren't.
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it's all relative. people lift weights to help develop more functional strength and to look better. When are you ever going to need to benchpress more than your bodyweight out in the world though? You will never be in that position at any job where you will be laying down and pressing something up. Sure you will use many pulling and squatting and curling movements, but chest presses? Manual labor is for suckers anyways.
Wrestling is technique, position, and leverage and has very little to do with actual strength.
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it's all relative. people lift weights to help develop more functional strength and to look better. When are you ever going to need to benchpress more than your bodyweight out in the world though? You will never be in that position at any job where you will be laying down and pressing something up. Sure you will use many pulling and squatting and curling movements, but chest presses? Manual labor is for suckers anyways.
Wrestling is technique, position, and leverage and has very little to do with actual strength.
yes the people who buiild houses and buildings, build roads, schools, etc. are "suckers". ::)
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Just to preface, I wrestled for 6 years, 2 in middle school and all four in high school. I believe wrestling is the truest test of functional strength there is. That being said, very few guys were strong in the weightroom and strong on the mat.
A. Why is that?
B. Which would you rather have?
Both, which can be had if you train for it. In my younger days I was much more focused on the gym strength. The last few years I have focused on functional strength and have found that is has actually had additive effects on my in gym movements.
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it's all relative. people lift weights to help develop more functional strength and to look better. When are you ever going to need to benchpress more than your bodyweight out in the world though? You will never be in that position at any job where you will be laying down and pressing something up. Sure you will use many pulling and squatting and curling movements, but chest presses? Manual labor is for suckers anyways.
Wrestling is technique, position, and leverage and has very little to do with actual strength.
OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE NOT IN THE PORN BUSIESS,,,
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why would I want to train for "functional" strength? So that I can walk up and down stairs more efficiently or turn around in my swivel chair effortlessly with minimal risk for injury? Perhaps slice through a tough part of steak that I just cooked?
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The average person should probably lift for both but athletes should be functional. The only thing I have seen football players do extra were curls and pushdowns, other than that it is just functional or compound exercises.
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I was watching WSM heats last night.
Seen Brian Siders get raped in all events bar squat (came 3rd i believe) and overhead axle press (2nd) Last in everything else
Felt sorry for him. Such a strong man respected in his field moves horizontally and got fucked over
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I was watching WSM heats last night.
Seen Brian Siders get raped in all events bar squat (came 3rd i believe) and overhead axle press (2nd) Last in everything else
Felt sorry for him. Such a strong man respected in his field moves horizontally and got fucked over
Shows that the word "strong" is pretty relative, there are at least a dozen different types of strength, and it's pretty much impossible to be good at them all.
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yes the people who buiild houses and buildings, build roads, schools, etc. are "suckers". ::)
Yes, they are. With a little education they can earn more money, provide better for their family, and not destroy their body in the process of slaving away for 12 hours a day for mediocre wages. I make twice as much as my buddy who is a stone mason foreman, and work 20 hours a week less than him. I also don't have to work outside in shit weather, or spend 1/4 of my pay on tools and gas for my work truck.
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Yes, they are. With a little education they can earn more money, provide better for their family, and not destroy their body in the process of slaving away for 12 hours a day for mediocre wages. I make twice as much as my buddy who is a stone mason foreman, and work 20 hours a week less than him. I also don't have to work outside in shit weather, or spend 1/4 of my pay on tools and gas for my work truck.
Dude wtf are you talking about? ::)
We NEED people who do those kinds of jobs. And stop acting like you're better than them.
Fucking douchebag.
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Functional training has become very dysfunctional in the last few years. The most functional exercises are the exercises focused on movements applicable to daily life. Squatting on Swiss ball on one leg with someone poking you with a sharp stick in the eye is not functional. Squats, deads, lunges, shoulder presses, chins, trunk rotations, even curls...these are more functional than what is being called functional today. Having said that, there are plenty of people stuck in the 70-80s doing dysfunctional training from back then as well-all bench press all the time, underhand tricep pressdowns, preacher curls, leg extensions and curls constituting a whole leg workout, 1000 rep ab days(which means 1000 rep crunch day), 90 degree leg raises...all equally as dysfunctional.
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Yes, they are. With a little education they can earn more money, provide better for their family, and not destroy their body in the process of slaving away for 12 hours a day for mediocre wages. I make twice as much as my buddy who is a stone mason foreman, and work 20 hours a week less than him. I also don't have to work outside in shit weather, or spend 1/4 of my pay on tools and gas for my work truck.
with your carrying of 600lb stones you would be a foremans dream. Buildings bould be built in minutes, no need for cranes or forklifts, you can do twice what WSM can do. Doing the work of 6 men means 6x their wages
The world is your oyster.
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with your carrying of 600lb stones you would be a foremans dream. Buildings bould be built in minutes, no need for cranes or forklifts, you can do twice what WSM can do. Doing the work of 6 men means 6x their wages
The world is your oyster.
;D
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Damn that guy is a bullshit artist.
"I picked a 600 pound stone of my truck and walked 40 yards with it" haha ok Derek Poundstone. ::)
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we need people to make french fries too. We need people to clean toilets. We need people to do all kinds of menial bullshit. My mason friend is a foreman and makes more money than the laborers on his crew, and does less physical work than they do. He is in a higher position and therefore better, and more valuable than they are. He is less expendable to the company than some 10 buck an hour brick hauler.
I know these concepts are difficult for some people to understand, but there is a socioeconomic ladder that we all live on. There are people above me and people below me. It's important to know where your place is, and perfectly acceptable to want more for yourself and others.
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i'd like to see who dies of heart attacks at younger ages - people who smile and drive a lawn mower all day, or those highly paid execs making a killing doing stressful deals.
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I know some people happy as hell in their relaxed jobs.
Everyone wanst to earn a little more money but not everyone is happy in their jobs
fair point 240
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with your carrying of 600lb stones you would be a foremans dream. Buildings bould be built in minutes, no need for cranes or forklifts, you can do twice what WSM can do. Doing the work of 6 men means 6x their wages
The world is your oyster.
moving a heavy rock 30 feet is not something anyone could do for an 8 hour work day.
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moving a 600lb rock is not something anyone in the world can do.
How do you know it was 600lbs? did you weigh it?
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receipt from the landscaping company they bought the rock from said 590 lbs, they use a truck scale.
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i seriously doubt you carried it.
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we need people to make french fries too. We need people to clean toilets. We need people to do all kinds of menial bullshit. My mason friend is a foreman and makes more money than the laborers on his crew, and does less physical work than they do. He is in a higher position and therefore better, and more valuable than they are. He is less expendable to the company than some 10 buck an hour brick hauler.
I know these concepts are difficult for some people to understand, but there is a socioeconomic ladder that we all live on. There are people above me and people below me. It's important to know where your place is, and perfectly acceptable to want more for yourself and others.
I'm in construction and it's just like any other industry. There are suckers and non suckers, exploiters and the exploited. Contracting is commonplace in building however, so there's a much broader scattering of earnings than you see in employment for wages. It's very Wild West. Some guys are making an absolute killing and others are barely scraping by.
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I'm in construction and it's just like any other industry. There are suckers and non suckers, exploiters and the exploited. Contracting is commonplace in building however, so there's a much broader scattering of earnings than you see in employment for wages. It's very Wild West. Some guys are making an absolute killing and others are barely scraping by.
so you understand what I mean when I say that manual labor is for suckers. There's a difference between the guy that busted his ass for a couple years and worked his way up to the guys that are stuck in the labor aspect for their life, living paycheck to paycheck.
Those people are suckers. My buddy started at the bottom, but in another 4-5 years he will likely own his own company and really make some good money.
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so you understand what I mean when I say that manual labor is for suckers. There's a difference between the guy that busted his ass for a couple years and worked his way up to the guys that are stuck in the labor aspect for their life, living paycheck to paycheck.
Those people are suckers. My buddy started at the bottom, but in another 4-5 years he will likely own his own company and really make some good money.
Running a company isn't all peaches 'n cream tho. Your risk, outlay, and headaches all increase. Hopefully earnings will too but the sad fact is that a lot of guys new to running a business make less than they did when they were still on the tools. If the economy is still limping along, I'd advise him to think twice about starting a business. Also, the US is a weird place for building contractors because of all the illegal labor. My perception is that you can either try to compete with them (and lose unless you serve a niche market) or hire them and run an illegal company. If I lived in the US I wouldn't be in construction.
At any rate, I know a lot of guys who do pretty well. A drywall hanger, who I hire (but who makes more than I do), busts his ass every day and grosses about $400,000 a year. We can debate about whether what he does is 'manual labor' or if it's skilled labor because he is exceptionally good at what he does, but either way the guy is no sucker.
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receipt from the landscaping company they bought the rock from said 590 lbs, they use a truck scale.
hahahahaa, dude you're so full of shit it's hilarious, fat bastard with no education trying to come off like a CEO. ;D
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hahahahaa, dude you're so full of shit it's hilarious, fat bastard with no education trying to come off like a CEO. ;D
right... AAS in automotive technology, GM certified master tech, ASE certified master tech, BS in applied mathematics, CCNA and CWNA certified.
And you're a squad gimmick account.
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right... AAS in automotive technology, GM certified master tech, ASE certified master tech, BS in applied mathematics, CCNA and CWNA certified.
And you're a squad gimmick account.
i could claim over the net that i graduated from Johns Hopkins school of medicine but it doesn't mean shit if i don't prove it. ::)
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i could claim over the net that i graduated from Johns Hopkins school of medicine but it doesn't mean shit if i don't prove it. ::)
How's your girlfriend's mom's trailer squad?
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i could claim over the net that i graduated from Johns Hopkins school of medicine but it doesn't mean shit if i don't prove it. ::)
You too? What year?
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I masterbated today and used my functional strength. ::)
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How's your girlfriend's mom's trailer squad?
i'll take that as a no on you posting proof. :D
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What the Hell is functional strength??
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I masterbated today and used my functional strength. ::)
the only muscle i got with "functional strength" is my cock 8)
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i'll take that as a no on you posting proof. :D
I do not seek your approval manual laborer. I am above you and do not answer to message board trolls.
Tell me how my ass tastes.
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I do not seek your approval manual laborer. I am above you and do not answer to message board trolls.
Tell me how my ass tastes.
haahahahaa, translation= you don't have the degrees you say you have and work the 3-11 shift at Burger King. :D
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the only muscle i got with "functional strength" is my cock 8)
and with ur steroid induced floppy dick i am sure that is hardly gonna have lexington steel quaking in his boots
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haahahahaa, translation= you don't have the degrees you say you have and work the 3-11 shift at Burger King. :D
No, I do have those degrees and work for a major telecom... today i sat on my ass for 7 1/2 hours of my 8 hour shift and made triple pay while you will be burning cardboard and chunks of tires in a metal barrel to stay warm after they kick you out of the library. In 6 mins I am off the clock and have a squat rack to go abuse.
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No, I do have those degrees and work for a major telecom... today i sat on my ass for 7 1/2 hours of my 8 hour shift and made triple pay while you will be burning cardboard and chunks of tires in a metal barrel to stay warm after they kick you out of the library. In 6 mins I am off the clock and have a squat rack to go abuse.
yet i'm still not seeing any proof. :D
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yet i'm still not seeing any proof. :D
pay me troll
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pay me troll
hahahahaaa, so that's a no on the pics of the degrees? :D
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Better watch out QO, kegdrainer spends his time online bragging about his degrees and carries a 600 pound stone for 40 yars off his truck, aren't you terrified?
What a winner haha.
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What the Hell is functional strength??
Functional strength is another excuse smaller guys pull outta their ass to once again help compensate for their bruised egos. Much like telling bigger guys that all their size is fat...same premise.
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you can tell the woman on the right got a real fat ass!
hahahhahahha......not just a PHAT Ass. she got some great legs too. this marriage will last thru eternity....hahahahah
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I have both
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and with ur steroid induced floppy dick i am sure that is hardly gonna have lexington steel quaking in his boots
thats hella funny you leprauchan bitch, you ghave know idea what steroids do to your cock, hahaha,
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I have both
Being 1000 pounds must have its advantages.
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So back on topic, we had two wrestling coaches in high school. One was 240, 10% bf, benched 455. The other was 195, 15% bf, benched maybe 185. The coach that weighed 195 felt much stronger than the one that weighed 240.
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Being 1000 pounds must have its advantages.
LMAO ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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The best example that I can remember about functional strength is Mariusz Pudzianowski.
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i'd like to see who dies of heart attacks at younger ages - people who smile and drive a lawn mower all day, or those highly paid execs making a killing doing stressful deals.
I can tell you who gets arrested more and the longer criminal record ;)
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carpentry for 8 hours a day = functional strength
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shoveling truckloads of cowshit for 8 hours a day = functional strength (and the lack of a high school diploma)
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"functional strength" is a complete misnomer because the "function" isn't specified. the training a wrestler does won't help him climb a cliff face, and the training a gymnast does won't help him on the football field.
your training is as "functional" as it applies to the activities of your life. if you sit at a computer during the day to work and hit up powerlifting meets on the weekend, weightroom strength is VERY functional. if you wrestle for college, that training is functional.
if you really don't do ANYTHING physically intensive in your day to day life and exercise is a recreation for you, ALL exercise is functional because it leaves you stronger and more fit than not doing it.
you dig?
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Being 1000 pounds must have its advantages.
;D ;D ;D
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Being 1000 pounds must have its advantages.
No not really little boy. I was way stronger at 300. When you hit 200 pounds then you can start popping off. Till then you are an outsider trying to fit in. Must suck.
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If you're a bench and curl guy you won't get to much of an athletic transfer to any athletic endeavor. If you sit in a machine and isolate body parts that also won't give you the so called athletic transfer. Using the Olympic lifts and whole body core exercises like squats, deadlifts and others will give you power that's transferable to athletics. The simpleton response of just getting stronger is functional isn't true. Getting stronger sitting in a lateral delt machine isn't going to help you do anything on the athletic field. The same applies to doing four different bicep exercises in one training day that is typical in many bodybuilding routines.
Most real sports like football, wrestling, throwing, sprinting or boxing takes explosive power. Of course specificity of training comes to play. All can be improved with a proper weight training routine. That weight training will not look like a typical bodybuilding routine.
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thats hella funny you leprauchan bitch, you ghave know idea what steroids do to your cock, hahaha,
Does it affect the cock on your head also?