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http://www.break.com/index/humvee_driving_in_iraqi_traffic.html (http://www.break.com/index/humvee_driving_in_iraqi_traffic.html)
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Teh camel jockeys know they arent supposedto be in the way of the americans.
Those dickface terrorists have no problem blowing up their own people that will likely die just to take out 1 american thats why they drive that way.
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yeah, they can't stop or slow down... it makes for good video :)
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funny, but the Government is wasting our tax money to dick around there.
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funny, but the Government is wasting our tax money to dick around there.
Not to mention... kill 10's-of-thousands of people, and completely destroy an entire country. But what the hell, they did attack us first. Oh wait, that was some other guy, who is fine and living untouched.
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Wow, how insightful.
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Holy cow, you are one fucking idiot.
Not to mention... kill 10's-of-thousands of people, and completely destroy an entire country. But what the hell, they did attack us first. Oh wait, that was some other guy, who is fine and living untouched.
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remember when some gaylord posted a video like this that had been on youtube forever and claimed that his brother had just sent it to him from the war zone?
viva Getbig!
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Holy cow, you are one fucking idiot.
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why?
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HAHAHAH its like a video game!! he even ran into the bus lololololl
winning the hearts and minds ::)
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Jeez, I can't imagine why we are hated.... ???
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Holy cow, you are one fucking idiot.
what was incorrect about tommy's statement?
lol... you can't find one point he made to be factually incorrect, can you? ;)
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Yep deffiantly winning the heart and minds ::) you yanks will never learn as soon as you hve the gen popultion against you u lost the war, so many
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Holy cow, you are one fucking idiot.
HOW the fuck it he stupid? Everything he said is true, Americans have killed a shit loads of people including your so called collateral damage ::) (these include kids and woman who in general have no argument with you guys what so ever) not only that but some of you guys even raped a 14 year old girl and shot her entire family hahahahh I know oh and don't come with the One time story...Woman soldiers are litteraly scared to death over there and cannot go outside to pee because they are afraid to get raped.
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HOW the fuck it he stupid? Everything he said is true, Americans have killed a shit loads of people including your so called collateral damage ::) (these include kids and woman who in general have no argument with you guys what so ever) not only that but some of you guys even raped a 14 year old girl and shot her entire family hahahahh I know oh and don't come with the One time story...Woman soldiers are litteraly scared to death over there and cannot go outside to pee because they are afraid to get raped.
I take it you've been there?
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I take it you've been there?
Nope I have not been there (thank's christ) but guess what an extremly good friend of mine who served with the British Rangers was over there not once but twice hahah, and yep I tust him completly...oh he's writing a book about all the stuff he has seen over there.
SHE: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f72_1188786314 has been there, and she is talking rape yeah i know it's fucking hillarious
CNN must be lying: http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/07/09/soldiers.charged/index.html
you cannot win a discussion like that... too much speaks agains you guys kicking the shit out of the middle east.
US became the Nazis of the 21 century now that is fucking hillarious.
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Nope I have not been there (thank's christ) but guess what an extremly good friend of mine who served with the British Rangers was over there not once but twice hahah, and yep I tust him completly...oh he's writing a book about all the stuff he has seen over there.
SHE: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f72_1188786314 has been there, and she is talking rape yeah i know it's fucking hillarious
CNN must be lying: http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/07/09/soldiers.charged/index.html
you cannot win a discussion like that... too much speaks agains you guys kicking the shit out of the middle east.
US became the Nazis of the 21 century now that is fucking hillarious.
I guess Saddam was the Gandhi of his time. Why did we ruin that Utopia?
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I guess Saddam was the Gandhi of his time. Why did we ruin that Utopia?
Lol who says so I love you Reps arguments... I talk about rape of the American Soldiers agains their own American female soldiers and you argue with me that Sadam was a prick... real intelligent ::) hahhhhah
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What exactly is a "British Ranger" anyway. They have no choice..its eaither that or come home in a body bag. The roads suck. The people drive like idiots. In Afghanistan they don't have those concrete dividers in the middle as much..so u just drive down the other side of the round...90 mph in bumper to bumper traffic....I've collided with a taxi's...a French Army jeep, tore the door off a Toyota mini van etc etc ..u do what u have to. I'd like to put up the stats of all the folks we've killed compared to AQ and Saddam in Iraq, not to mention all the folks the Shia and Sunni have killed between them. U've had almosta million US troops roll through Iraq...I rape and a few killing that were either unnneccesary or down right murder. they are paying the price for their crimes..nobody gets awat with shit. Hey Stark, until u've been there, been shot at and had to do something about it, don't second guess the guy on the ground. U can debate policy, or why we should or should not be there, but calling US troops murderers....thats BS.
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Nope I have not been there (thank's christ) but guess what an extremly good friend of mine who served with the British Rangers was over there not once but twice hahah, and yep I tust him completly...oh he's writing a book about all the stuff he has seen over there.
SHE: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f72_1188786314 has been there, and she is talking rape yeah i know it's fucking hillarious
CNN must be lying: http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/07/09/soldiers.charged/index.html
you cannot win a discussion like that... too much speaks agains you guys kicking the shit out of the middle east.
US became the Nazis of the 21 century now that is fucking hillarious.
Are you sure you don't mean the Royal Irish Regiment, Stark?
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Haha.
I just got out of the USMC.
I didn't get the chance to go over there, but from the people I've talked to, who have been there 3+ times, it's NOTHING like you say it is.
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Haha.
I just got out of the USMC.
I didn't get the chance to go over there, but from the people I've talked to, who have been there 3+ times, it's NOTHING like you say it is.
Well explain to me the charges against Marines and Army male soldiers raping female Us soldiers than.
And yes I made a mistake he is/was Royal Marines my apologies.
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HOW the fuck it he stupid? Everything he said is true, Americans have killed a shit loads of people including your so called collateral damage ::) (these include kids and woman who in general have no argument with you guys what so ever) not only that but some of you guys even raped a 14 year old girl and shot her entire family hahahahh I know oh and don't come with the One time story...Woman soldiers are litteraly scared to death over there and cannot go outside to pee because they are afraid to get raped.
dont be a moron, stark, probably 90% of civilian casualties have been iraqis killing other iraqis in bombings or reprisals. shit like that girl getting raped just goes with the territory-its inevitable in war-but it remains the exception not the norm. the vast majority of the barbarism going on there has been commited by iraqis on other iraqis.
btw comparing the US forces the nazis doesnt speak much for your intelligence :-\
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If the people raise a howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war and not popularity-seeking...General Sherman
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dont be a moron, stark, probably 90% of civilian casualties have been iraqis killing other iraqis in bombings or reprisals. shit like that girl getting raped just goes with the territory-its inevitable in war-but it remains the exception not the norm. the vast majority of the barbarism going on there has been commited by iraqis on other iraqis.
btw comparing the US forces the nazis doesnt speak much for your intelligence :-\
What these scumbag insurgence do does not excuse any wrongdoing by Coalition troops, lol I cannot even believe that you say rape comes with the territory...You know how I have no trouble imagine what some of these iraqy guys feel over there? What makes them fight the US and Coalition forces? It's piss easy...I imagine that due to circumstances we (Europe) are poor and Saudi Arabia Middle East are rich, they "liberate" my country because they think we are not free or we believe in the wrong ideas or religion...
Do you would like to have extreme Muslims running on your street with Guns strapped to their side? I know I wouldn't...I know I would like to kill as many as possible if I find out my wife has been raped by some of them...
I know I possibly would fancy the idea too to fight them, you see if you had any imagination at all you would distance yourself from the images you see on TV since Coaliton troops only look "familiar".
I compared the current US Government to the Nazi's since I firstly wanted to tiggle a reaction out you but if you look very very close you can see very small similarities... not many but they are there...
A patriotic American *in my eyes at least loves his country and the citicens of his country first and maybe than his leaders... a loyal american HAS judge any action taken by his Government... that is in my opinion your duty.
But it;s seriously interesting to me how many of you simply put the head in the sand and blame liberal propaganda on everything denie even mistakes that are so obvious that a blind man would see them, same thing we Germans did back in 40-45 my friend ;) we learned the hard way that you HAVE to keep a close eye on your Government after all they are there for YOU and YOU only, I always get a good laugh out of it when somebody tells me... Yeah he does care about us (meaning Bush or any other Leader) no he doesn't lol do you honestly believe that if he hears your name he would care at all what happens to you? He's a human beeing, 1000 dead are just a number you cannot care about everybody you treat humans as numbers and work get's a little easier, Bush doesn't care about anything but himself and how his polls are doing and there is no shame in it what so ever, that's what we are, we humans have a strong will to survive and a very high self interest in ourself... he's only doing what comes natural to him.
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What these scumbag insurgence do does not excuse any wrongdoing by Coalition troops, lol I cannot even believe that you say rape comes with the territory...You know how I have no trouble imagine what some of these iraqy guys feel over there? What makes them fight the US and Coalition forces? It's piss easy...I imagine that due to circumstances we (Europe) are poor and Saudi Arabia Middle East are rich, they "liberate" my country because they think we are not free or we believe in the wrong ideas or religion...
Do you would like to have extreme Muslims running on your street with Guns strapped to their side? I know I wouldn't...I know I would like to kill as many as possible if I find out my wife has been raped by some of them...
I know I possibly would fancy the idea too to fight them, you see if you had any imagination at all you would distance yourself from the images you see on TV since Coaliton troops only look "familiar".
despite what you seem to think rape of locals by occupying forces has been going on throughout human history. its inevitable. the difference is that with the americans in iraq it is the rare exception and not the norm. one of the reasons why the situation has become so bogged down is just that, we are trying to fight the most humane war in history. you make it seem like its the rape of nanking over there as if the US forces are encouraged to gangrape and kill as many iraqi civilians as they please ::)
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despite what you seem to think rape of locals by occupying forces has been going on throughout human history. its inevitable. the difference is that with the americans in iraq it is the rare exception and not the norm. one of the reasons why the situation has become so bogged down is just that, we are trying to fight the most humane war in history. you make it seem like its the rape of nanking over there as if the US forces are encouraged to gangrape and kill as many iraqi civilians as they please ::)
there is nothing like a human war... doesn't exist will never exist... and for those "rare" exepetions it doesn't matter shit if it only happend to them.
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HOW the fuck it he stupid? Everything he said is true, Americans have killed a shit loads of people including your so called collateral damage ::) (these include kids and woman who in general have no argument with you guys what so ever) not only that but some of you guys even raped a 14 year old girl and shot her entire family hahahahh I know oh and don't come with the One time story...Woman soldiers are litteraly scared to death over there and cannot go outside to pee because they are afraid to get raped.
Agree. It is a disgrace.
You know how I have no trouble imagine what some of these iraqy guys feel over there? What makes them fight the US and Coalition forces? It's piss easy...I imagine that due to circumstances we (Europe) are poor and Saudi Arabia Middle East are rich, they "liberate" my country because they think we are not free or we believe in the wrong ideas or religion... Do you would like to have extreme Muslims running on your street with Guns strapped to their side? I know I wouldn't...I know I would like to kill as many as possible if I find out my wife has been raped by some of them...
Exactly. If America were invaded, and hundreds of thousands killed, occupied for years, women raped.....they would be livid. But somehow people seem to act like Iraqi's should be celebrating. America was hit for one day, lost 2,000 people and were understandably livid. Iraq has been getting hit for years, lost at least 100 times the amount of people, had their women raped but they are not allowed to be mad?
If my island were to be invaded, I would resist with every bone in my body. We would be crushed in about 6 mins, but that is not the point. I will not be whipping out lemonade and welcoming some invaders on my soil.
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Agree. It is a disgrace.
Exactly. If America were invaded, and hundreds of thousands killed, occupied for years, women raped.....they would be livid. But somehow people seem to act like Iraqi's should be celebrating. America was hit for one day, lost 2,000 people and were understandably livid. Iraq has been getting hit for years, lost at least 100 times the amount of people, had their women raped but they are not allowed to be mad?
If my island were to be invaded, I would resist with every bone in my body. We would be crushed in about 6 mins, but that is not the point. I will not be whipping out lemonade and welcoming some invaders on my soil.
you seem to be missing the point that virtually all of the iraqi civilians being killed are being killed by OTHER IRAQIS
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iraq is a sad country...
so is the US...
people are dying for no reason
be happy that you have the life you take for granted.
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you seem to be missing the point that virtually all of the iraqi civilians being killed are being killed by OTHER IRAQIS
Okay look mate... They are getting killed because some fucks want to destabilize the country since they are clever enough to know that in an open fight they had no chance against you boys EVER, my point here is they kill Iraq's BECAUSE you invaded the country and you boys are still there unfortunately Coalition forces are the cause of all the shit that is going down there.
Hey trust me, I was celebrating at first when I saw the first images of Americans being celebrated by Iraqis..I was curious (since I love history and I know you have fucked up in the past...spectacular If I may say so) but I was giving you guys the benefit of the doubt...in my daily discussion (I love to real live discuss) I defended the US actions and all...so you cannot say you did not had the world covering your back, I know there were a lot of people who said the war is wrong from the beginning but relatively speaking and seeing the world the numbers were pretty small, I mean it was post 9/11 and I believe the rest of the world was kinda relieved that asshold Bush did not nuke another country in retaliation.
But what is going on in Iraq is classic and if you follow history you will find similar scenarios, it's unwindable 100%...,. UNLESS... you relay make an effort to win the hearts and minds of ALL Iraq's, but guess what, I believe that most of the US Boys and Girls over there REALY want to do good... or at least in their first few month...but I guess when you see your Humvee disintegrate and have your decapitated head of your buddy and driver on your lap shit is kinda changed after that.
I'm rambling I know back to the movie (I promise I tie it in)... Them driving like this makes absolute sense to me... but you know what the all the people think in the bus when they got rammed? THOSE IGNORANT AMERICANS I HATE THEM... or they are simply afraid of you and will not witheld information when the local militia knocks on the door, what I mean with this is that the US and Coalition forces MADE these guys.
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you seem to be missing the point that virtually all of the iraqi civilians being killed are being killed by OTHER IRAQIS
The point is a nation was illegally invaded, has been occupied for years, their people killed and women have been raped by US forces. One can dispute all the variables, but those facts remain. Nothing in this world could ever make me condone the killing of kids, of innocent women and the rape of a 14 year old girl.
Thing being all this effort to kill and bomb people in 3 nations Iraq, Somalia and Afghanistan, and Bin Laden the person who attacked America - never caught :-\
20 odd hijackers, yet millions of people are attacked. I just hope the Western world, has the same understanding as they expect Iraqi's to - if their nation is invaded, homes and cities get bombed, their people killed by the hundreds of thousands and their young girls raped.
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The point is a nation was illegally invaded, has been occupied for years, their people killed and women have been raped by US forces. One can dispute all the variables, but those facts remain. Nothing in this world could ever make me condone the killing of kids, of innocent women and the rape of a 14 year old girl.
Thing being all this effort to kill and bomb people in 3 nations Iraq, Somalia and Afghanistan, and Bin Laden the person who attacked America - never caught :-\
20 odd hijackers, yet millions of people are attacked. I just hope the Western world, has the same understanding as they expect Iraqi's to - if their nation is invaded, homes and cities get bombed, their people killed by the hundreds of thousands and their young girls raped.
CQ before the Americans even went in I knew it was a mistake.
The American government seem to be brilliant at miss reading peoples responses and reactions and always seem surprised when people hate them instead of loving them.
But as far as the bombing killings and rapings go that is common in ALL WARS.
the Americans are just unlucky that every one seems to have a camera when they go in and do these things.
(Try having a camera in Iran, Zimbabwe etc when the troops are doing that you will last 5 seconds)
Once a army sees their own people die especially when it is the very people who they are trying to help their attitude changes hence the abuse of civilians.
The insurgents, terrorist or what ever you want to call them are destabilising the whole process, they are keeping the Americans in their even longer.
If there was peace the Americans could hand over and leave....... along time ago.
Unfortunately it is a lot more complicated than you make out and the fighting by the insurgents is a lot less honourable than just getting rid of the Yankees.
Iran, Russia and many other countries are supplying weapons and training.
In the big picture I would rather have the Yankees win no matter how much I disagree with them than some country that really does not give a shit about rights and freedom like 90% of the middle and far East.
At least you can tell the Americans that, lets see you tell the Iranian, Koreans, Chinese, Russian, Zimbabwean Governments etc that and see how long you last.
There definitely is a bigger picture
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winning the hearts and minds ::)
lol exactly!
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STFU political queers. This is protocol to avoid roadside IED.
I love how everyone of you take it as a full time hobby to debate political shit on a bodybuilding board.
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STFU political queers. This is protocol to avoid roadside IED.
I love who everyone of you take it as a full time hobby to debate political shit on a bodybuilding board.
Do you believe War with Iraq was the right thing to do?
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Do you believe War with Iraq was the right thing to do?
Is that this thread's subject?
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I love who everyone of you take it as a full time hobby to debate political shit on a bodybuilding board.
Is that this thread's subject?
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Do you agree on the fact that this soldier is doing his job and simply following protocol to avoid coming back in a bodybag?
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Okay look mate... They are getting killed because some fucks want to destabilize the country since they are clever enough to know that in an open fight they had no chance against you boys EVER, my point here is they kill Iraq's BECAUSE you invaded the country and you boys are still there unfortunately Coalition forces are the cause of all the shit that is going down there.
Hey trust me, I was celebrating at first when I saw the first images of Americans being celebrated by Iraqis..I was curious (since I love history and I know you have fucked up in the past...spectacular If I may say so) but I was giving you guys the benefit of the doubt...in my daily discussion (I love to real live discuss) I defended the US actions and all...so you cannot say you did not had the world covering your back, I know there were a lot of people who said the war is wrong from the beginning but relatively speaking and seeing the world the numbers were pretty small, I mean it was post 9/11 and I believe the rest of the world was kinda relieved that asshold Bush did not nuke another country in retaliation.
But what is going on in Iraq is classic and if you follow history you will find similar scenarios, it's unwindable 100%...,. UNLESS... you relay make an effort to win the hearts and minds of ALL Iraq's, but guess what, I believe that most of the US Boys and Girls over there REALY want to do good... or at least in their first few month...but I guess when you see your Humvee disintegrate and have your decapitated head of your buddy and driver on your lap shit is kinda changed after that.
I'm rambling I know back to the movie (I promise I tie it in)... Them driving like this makes absolute sense to me... but you know what the all the people think in the bus when they got rammed? THOSE IGNORANT AMERICANS I HATE THEM... or they are simply afraid of you and will not witheld information when the local militia knocks on the door, what I mean with this is that the US and Coalition forces MADE these guys.
With all do respect....Being lectured by a German..ur kidding me right. We sat in your country from 1945 up until the end of the Cold War and made pretty damm sure that the Soviets didn't pour through the Fulda gap and turn the Fatherland into a tank trail. All you euro's do is lecture us on what not to do as your countries are being invaded by the middle east and islamic nutbags set up shop in your countries. I've been to Germany several times and loved it, but u guys need to get a grip before lecturing us. Wasn't it a few months ago that German media was publishing shots of Budeswher troops in Afghanistan screwing around with human remains or german cops being told to picture themselves in NYC being attacked by blacks.
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CQ before the Americans even went in I knew it was a mistake.
The American government seem to be brilliant at miss reading peoples responses and reactions and always seem surprised when people hate them instead of loving them.
But as far as the bombing killings and rapings go that is common in ALL WARS.
the Americans are just unlucky that every one seems to have a camera when they go in and do these things.
(Try having a camera in Iran, Zimbabwe etc when the troops are doing that you will last 5 seconds)
Once a army sees their own people die especially when it is the very people who they are trying to help their attitude changes hence the abuse of civilians.
The insurgents, terrorist or what ever you want to call them are destabilising the whole process, they are keeping the Americans in their even longer.
If there was peace the Americans could hand over and leave....... along time ago.
Unfortunately it is a lot more complicated than you make out and the fighting by the insurgents is a lot less honourable than just getting rid of the Yankees.
Iran, Russia and many other countries are supplying weapons and training.
In the big picture I would rather have the Yankees win no matter how much I disagree with them than some country that really does not give a shit about rights and freedom like 90% of the middle and far East.
At least you can tell the Americans that, lets see you tell the Iranian, Koreans, Chinese, Russian, Zimbabwean Governments etc that and see how long you last.
There definitely is a bigger picture
exactly, CQ seems to think that its the rape of nanking over there ::)
as if US forces invaded out of sheer ambitious agression and have been killing and raping 'innocent iraqis' by the hundreds ever since, hahaha she seems to think the millions of insurgents are 'freedom fighters' fighting for a free, independent, peace-loving iraq, as if our forces are the ones causing all the carnage, and as soon as we leave the 'freedom fighters' will lay down their arms for the good of the iraqi people hahahahah you think its bad over there now? wait till we pull out.
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The point is a nation was illegally invaded, has been occupied for years, their people killed and women have been raped by US forces. One can dispute all the variables, but those facts remain. Nothing in this world could ever make me condone the killing of kids, of innocent women and the rape of a 14 year old girl.
Thing being all this effort to kill and bomb people in 3 nations Iraq, Somalia and Afghanistan, and Bin Laden the person who attacked America - never caught :-\
20 odd hijackers, yet millions of people are attacked. I just hope the Western world, has the same understanding as they expect Iraqi's to - if their nation is invaded, homes and cities get bombed, their people killed by the hundreds of thousands and their young girls raped.
getting a little carried away, aren't we?
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exactly, CQ seems to think that its the rape of nanking over there ::)
Please excuse for not condoning rape, and I will make no apologies for thinking soldiers raping girls, no matter how few it is 'purported' to be, is fine.
getting a little carried away, aren't we?
Possibly, although I do think hundreds of thousands of dead people and bombing the crap out of people for years is more indicative of getting carried away. I am merely posting, not dropping bombs [feel like adding a big horse face smiley, but cannot as I don't want to appear to be making light of this topic hehe]
Also, Powerpack, nice post, interesting, thanks..
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Please excuse for not condoning rape, and I will make no apologies for thinking soldiers raping girls, no matter how few it is 'purported' to be, is fine.
Possibly, although I do think hundreds of thousands of dead people and bombing the crap out of people for years is more indicative of getting carried away. I am merely posting, not dropping bombs [feel like adding a big horse face smiley, but cannot as I don't want to appear to be making light of this topic hehe]
Also, Powerpack, nice post, interesting, thanks..
as others have pointed out, it's not American soldiers who are committing anywhere near a majority of the barbarities . . . and there has been no sustained bombing campaign since the ground invasion occurred.
Almost everybody knows this is not about finding Osama, but about a whole mass of issues: from serving notice to Al-Qaeda to trying to spread a certain ideology.
Only a fool would say that things are going well, or were well-planned, but it's hardly fair to lay all the responsibility at our door. It was well-known that the middle east has been a pressure cooker for a while now . . . if we didn't do something, who is to say that Iran wouldn't have attacked a sanction-weakened Iraq, or sent its operatives into S. Arabia instead?
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as others have pointed out, it's not American soldiers who are committing anywhere near a majority of the barbarities . . . and there has been no sustained bombing campaign since the ground invasion occurred.
Almost everybody knows this is not about finding Osama, but about a whole mass of issues: from serving notice to Al-Qaeda to trying to spread a certain ideology.
Only a fool would say that things are going well, or were well-planned, but it's hardly fair to lay all the responsibility at our door. It was well-known that the middle east has been a pressure cooker for a while now . . . if we didn't do something, who is to say that Iran wouldn't have attacked a sanction-weakened Iraq, or sent its operatives into S. Arabia instead?
Oh, I'm not. I mean the west in general. I am quite ashamed to admit a few from my region poked it's nose in as well, and one can note Caricom forces have been there as well......which is heavily frowned upon here......
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Hate the game not the player. The war might be fucked, but much respect for the USMC. 8)
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Oh, I'm not. I mean the west in general. I am quite ashamed to admit a few from my region poked it's nose in as well, and one can note Caricom forces have been there as well......which is heavily frowned upon here......
come here and i will hold you :-*
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Do you agree on the fact that this soldier is doing his job and simply following protocol to avoid coming back in a bodybag?
110%, I'd do the exact same thing, maybe worse if I were there.