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i havent trained legs for over a month easily
so today i tried leg press (i usually did squat)
used the oblique upward leg press machine with 200kg of plates on it for 3 sets, 15,12, and ten reps controlled no locking out
now i dont have the slightest soreness
very sure that if i had done squats my legs would be sore all over now
conclusion
i doubt the effectiveness of leg press
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Dorian didn't do a lot of heavy squatting for most of his pro career.
His legs were fine.
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Dorian didn't do a lot of heavy squatting for most of his pro career.
His legs were fine.
true,,he like varying feet position smith squats,,slow and enough depth ,,his legs had cool look to them...
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I feel more on the outside of the quads on leg press. Squats are still king, tho.
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the problems with squats is they put so much loading on the spine
what about a weighted hip belt for squats
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i havent trained legs for over a month easily
so today i tried leg press (i usually did squat)
used the oblique upward leg press machine with 200kg of plates on it for 3 sets, 15,12, and ten reps controlled no locking out
now i dont have the slightest soreness
very sure that if i had done squats my legs would be sore all over now
conclusion
i doubt the effectiveness of leg press
Let a big fat heavy guy jump on your back then you squat with him, you will have big legs in no time.
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this looks like a good idea
benefit of squats for legs
without risk for the spine
?
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this looks like a good idea
benefit of squats for legs
without risk for the spine
?
would be very awkward to use enough weight.
There's always step-ups, Lunges, 1-legged squats, hack squats, sissy squats, deadlifts (with bar behind the back), etc. as alternatives to squatting.
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i havent trained legs for over a month easily
so today i tried leg press (i usually did squat)
used the oblique upward leg press machine with 200kg of plates on it for 3 sets, 15,12, and ten reps controlled no locking out
now i dont have the slightest soreness
very sure that if i had done squats my legs would be sore all over now
conclusion
i doubt the effectiveness of leg press
Leg press doesnt have equal stimuation to Squats but you can still get a good leg workout using LP. When I do them, I start with 25-30 reps straight and then second set for 15 3rd for 10-15...by then my legs are sore
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You can't argue with these results.
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Do 5 sets of 20. Proceed to limp for a week.
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You can't stimulate your legs with leg presses as you can with squats.
But regarding leg presses, vertical leg presses (lying down) are better than horizontal (seated), IMO.
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this looks like a good idea
benefit of squats for legs
without risk for the spine
?
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Squats are for poeple with Short legs compared to long torso only
Physical fact
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Legpress build quads, squats build hips, waist and butt.
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Squats are for poeple with Short legs compared to long torso only
Physical fact
i got long legs and can't barbell squat for shit, but i've been doing heels elevated dumbbell full squats (ass to grass style) and they are working like a charm 8)
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Probably the best to build quads for me, the lying down one.
Even though I been doing squats the past few years.
Downside of leg press is that its harder on the knees, and squats don't bother my knees at all and I've had a small amount of cartilage removed from my knee via arthroscopy.
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both are great exercises.. but i like Barbell squats flat footed and get better results than leg press. I do not believe the notion (largely popularized by Vince Gironda, although his charges did smith machine squats and hack squats) that full Barbell squats give you overdeveloped Buttocks,hips,waist and "carrot" shaped thighs !!
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Kevin did plenty of squats early in his career before he injured his back. He was a strong squatter.
You can build great legs without squats. Squats are not for everyone and leg presses can definately build legs. For most people it doesn't have to be an either/or situation tho.
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This is your best thread to date chalo, well done.
I recently started squatting on a smith machine as I moved and it's all the free gym in my office has. It seems like a fine exercise but feels very different than a regular squat, I feel like it is harder on my quads and easier on my posterior muscles (lower back and "The Glutes").
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thats what i always though.
kevin levrone also never did squats.
as for soreness,i dont know if thats even any indication for muscle growth.
my previous legs workout i did nothing but leg curls and the legs are sore like hell, unlike when i do squats and legpress.
I actually feel my legs better doing a pre-exhaust superset leg extension+squats. I am sore after this and you do feel the muscles better when squatting(reduced poundage but i like it)
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they all work and should all be used just rotate squat one wk do hack instead,leg press ,extensions,lunges ,should be main staple,,higher rep type training build legs ,,heavy squats are good for the ego but they do build a leg base and thickness all around.
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they all work and should all be used just rotate squat one wk do hack instead,leg press ,extensions,lunges ,should be main staple,,higher rep type training build legs ,,heavy squats are good for the ego but they do build a leg base and thickness all around.
I found that doing leg presses first, followed by squats on the Smith machine produced the best results!
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I found that doing leg presses first, followed by squats on the Smith machine produced the best results!
that's what i do as well, squats are generally my last or 2nd to last movement on leg day, though i do bb pause squats instead of sm squats.
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I had to replay that when Simmons said she benched 505. Then I googled the video. Unblievable.
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Benched 505 with one of those straight jacket bench shirts I'm sure. Power lifting and bodybuilding has gone to hell. Power lifting with all the cheat gear and shallow squats. Bodybuilding with all the bloat cosmetic drug muscles. It seems Olympic lifting where you put it over your head or you don't is the only strength sport worth any praise.
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I found that doing leg presses first, followed by squats on the Smith machine produced the best results!
absolutely......i agree.....leg press....smith squats.....leg extensions and stiff leg deadlifts for the hamstrings.
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both are great exercises.. but i like Barbell squats flat footed and get better results than leg press. I do not believe the notion (largely popularized by Vince Gironda, although his charges did smith machine squats and hack squats) that full Barbell squats give you overdeveloped Buttocks,hips,waist and "carrot" shaped thighs !!
It all depends on foot position and how high you hold the bar on your neck. Hold the bar low and feet wide, definitely hits butt and hips, hold it high and feet closer, let the knees travel toward the end of the toes and you will hit the quads. To cover all the bases I squat and then do leg press. Do the leg press super slow, take about three seconds to descend, and go in the twenty five rep range. Four plates will feel like seven.
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Benched 505 with one of those straight jacket bench shirts I'm sure. Power lifting and bodybuilding has gone to hell. Power lifting with all the cheat gear and shallow squats. Bodybuilding with all the bloat cosmetic drug muscles. It seems Olympic lifting where you put it over your head or you don't is the only strength sport worth any praise.
Exactly. No woman has ever bench pressed 505. FtM transsexuals are not women. And using one of these straight jackets is no different than squatting with a huge spring under your ass. Don't call it a bench press.
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I found that doing leg presses first, followed by squats on the Smith machine produced the best results!
i start with leg press just about every leg workout and then follow with squats ect,,,sometimes finish with hi rep leg press,,i love training legs and switch up every workout....
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this looks like a good idea
benefit of squats for legs
without risk for the spine
?
I used to do these a lot very heavy, but its a pain in the ass to set up. you need a loading pin, a squat rack to lean against, 2 reebok steps, a small box to put the pin on and a spotter to pull it out and put it back in.
great lift but impossible to do in most gyms
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do you people even lift?
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do you people even lift?
;D
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;D
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:D
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this looks like a good idea
benefit of squats for legs
without risk for the spine
?
wonder why he didn't use a dip belt?
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wonder why he didn't use a dip belt?
I wonder why his mom didn't use Roe v Wade to society's advantage.
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OK, Are squats better for building muscle on your legs? overall yes, however some people build better with leg presses, it depends on the person, but 7 out of 10 people will find better results with squats.
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i feel soreness today
it works afterall
bless leg press
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I wonder why his mom didn't use Roe v Wade to society's advantage.
Haha yes this is a good question.