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Re: Vince Gironda Forum
« Reply #300 on: January 21, 2015, 08:17:42 AM »
One thing to remember about Larry Scott's arm training is that he also did "Burns" on the Preacher and Spider moves. The bottom up "Burns" to just below a 90 degree curl, hits the Brachialis, but doesn't activate the Biceps at that point. Holding the contraction tight at that point for a good isometric 7 seconds, with a slow negative contraction down again, emphasizes the Brachialis. It isolates the Brachialis, even more than full hammer curls do, because the Biceps aren't involved. Since the Brachialis is under the Biceps, a bigger Brachialis muscle will raise the Biceps up higher, therefore creating a larger size arm, and creating the split Biceps look, too.

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Re: Vince Gironda Forum
« Reply #301 on: January 21, 2015, 09:14:38 AM »
One thing to remember about Larry Scott's arm training is that he also did "Burns" on the Preacher and Spider moves. The bottom up "burns" to just below a 90 degree curl, hits the Brachialis, but doesn't activate the Biceps at that point. Holding the contraction tight at that point for a good isometric 7 seconds, with a slow negative contraction down again, emphasizes the Brachialis. It isolates the Brachialis, even more than full hammer curls do, because the Biceps aren't involved. Since the Brachialis is under the Biceps, a bigger Brachialis muscle will raise the Biceps up higher, therefore creating a larger size arm, and creating the split Biceps look, too.
what is your opinion on wrist pronation and If you have tried "Drag" curls ? Drag curls with an overhand grip .. you sound like jpm101  ;)

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Re: Vince Gironda Forum
« Reply #302 on: January 21, 2015, 10:51:35 AM »
One thing to remember about Larry Scott's arm training is that he also did "Burns" on the Preacher and Spider moves. The bottom up "Burns" to just below a 90 degree curl, hits the Brachialis, but doesn't activate the Biceps at that point. Holding the contraction tight at that point for a good isometric 7 seconds, with a slow negative contraction down again, emphasizes the Brachialis. It isolates the Brachialis, even more than full hammer curls do, because the Biceps aren't involved. Since the Brachialis is under the Biceps, a bigger Brachialis muscle will raise the Biceps up higher, therefore creating a larger size arm, and creating the split Biceps look, too.


Scott personally discussed some of these ideas during his seminar that was taped in the 80's.
We had clips from the event posted in one of the Training board stickies.

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Re: Vince Gironda Forum
« Reply #303 on: January 21, 2015, 11:28:59 AM »

Scott personally discussed some of these ideas during his seminar that was taped in the 80's.
We had clips from the event posted in one of the Training board stickies.

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Re: Vince Gironda Forum
« Reply #304 on: January 22, 2015, 10:18:21 AM »
 ;D the weight isn't as important as the form in many  exercises esp isolation types.
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Re: Vince Gironda Forum
« Reply #305 on: January 22, 2015, 04:10:33 PM »
;D the weight isn't as important as the form in many  exercises esp isolation types.


I will stand by this claim.

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Re: Vince Gironda Forum
« Reply #306 on: January 25, 2015, 12:23:19 PM »
some more vg stuff
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Re: Vince Gironda Forum
« Reply #307 on: January 25, 2015, 12:25:53 PM »
 ::)  oops sorry for the repeat liver quote.
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Re: Vince Gironda Forum
« Reply #308 on: January 27, 2015, 09:17:08 AM »

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« Reply #309 on: January 27, 2015, 10:10:59 AM »
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Re: Vince Gironda Forum
« Reply #310 on: February 15, 2015, 11:47:07 AM »
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« Reply #311 on: February 15, 2015, 12:56:05 PM »
Donīt know if this has been posted..
http://de.slideshare.net/Diegobio2/vince-gironda-legend-and-myth

Didn't see that before. Thanks for posting it!

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« Reply #312 on: March 16, 2015, 11:14:15 AM »
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Re: Vince Gironda Forum
« Reply #313 on: March 16, 2015, 12:42:22 PM »

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« Reply #314 on: March 16, 2015, 12:45:32 PM »
 ;D vg in the movies playing a personal trainer..... typecast. :D
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« Reply #315 on: March 17, 2015, 09:27:56 AM »
some intresting comments on the V Gironda:The Iron guru Facebook side Funky.. you mentioned it before yourself. A few on their writing about his Gym and training too.

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« Reply #316 on: March 17, 2015, 03:28:56 PM »
 ;D varation
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« Reply #317 on: March 22, 2015, 03:29:07 PM »
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Re: Vince Gironda Forum
« Reply #318 on: March 23, 2015, 03:07:47 AM »
Hey Funk you ever try this...??  not for me.
http://www.ironguru.com/ab-trim-colon-cleansing-kit

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« Reply #319 on: March 23, 2015, 09:32:46 AM »
Hey Funk you ever try this...??  not for me.
http://www.ironguru.com/ab-trim-colon-cleansing-kit
no, i don't fool around with stuff like that, just try to eat as clean as possible. no trips to mcdonalds, burger king , pizza hut or foods of that ilk...
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« Reply #320 on: March 23, 2015, 09:47:42 AM »
Always confused here by one thing he wrote in I believe "Wild Physique".

I am quoting here but  from Vince:  "Water is a weight gain substance. Avoid trips to the water fountain during your workout"


NEVER understood that. In fact he mentioned in a couple times

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« Reply #321 on: March 23, 2015, 11:53:21 AM »
Always confused here by one thing he wrote in I believe "Wild Physique".
I am quoting here but  from Vince:  "Water is a weight gain substance. Avoid trips to the water fountain during your workout"
NEVER understood that. In fact he mentioned in a couple times

I think your memory is faulty. Vince said not to drink from water fountains, because you suck air into your stomach while drinking from them, as that can cause stomach and/or intestinal cramping during exercise.

You can gain water weight, by drinking water, duh! Thing is that you don't want to get too much water into your muscle cells when you exercise. Things such as carb loading (really glycogen loading), and creatine loading, plus drinking water, force water into your muscle cells. Think of your cells as balloons.
Fill a balloon with water just half way. Squeeze it. What happen? Nothing, it's flexible. Now fill the balloon to its max, and squeeze it again. What happens? It bursts! Don't confuse that with muscle tearing and muscle growth. When muscle cells burst in quantity, you just create protein mush, muscle cramps and bruising,(plus bad DOMS), in your intercellular spaces, that your lymphatic system has to work hard to clean up.

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« Reply #322 on: March 23, 2015, 05:39:09 PM »
I think your memory is faulty. Vince said not to drink from water fountains, because you suck air into your stomach while drinking from them, as that can cause stomach and/or intestinal cramping during exercise.

You can gain water weight, by drinking water, duh! Thing is that you don't want to get too much water into your muscle cells when you exercise. Things such as carb loading (really glycogen loading), and creatine loading, plus drinking water, force water into your muscle cells. Think of your cells as balloons.
Fill a balloon with water just half way. Squeeze it. What happen? Nothing, it's flexible. Now fill the balloon to its max, and squeeze it again. What happens? It bursts! Don't confuse that with muscle tearing and muscle growth. When muscle cells burst in quantity, you just create protein mush, muscle cramps and bruising,(plus bad DOMS), in your intercellular spaces, that your lymphatic system has to work hard to clean up.

makes sense now.. big thanks  :)

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Re: Vince Gironda Forum
« Reply #323 on: March 27, 2015, 12:34:51 PM »
it was said that some days vince would close the day to men and have and all women's day...
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Re: Vince Gironda Forum
« Reply #324 on: March 27, 2015, 03:35:56 PM »



Vince was quite the snazzy dresser.