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Both of these chips are beasts.
For those of you considering a new smart phone, here's how they compare in performance.
Geek Bench Scores:
Snapdragon 835
Single Core
2058
Multi Core
6461
Apple A11
Single Core
4537
Multi Core
8975
Higher score is better.
People don't talk to much about how good Apple is at designing chips. In reality, they're far ahead of the competition.
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We have a tablet at work running Windows 10 and Microsoft Office. It's impressive that something so small can have all the capabilities of a desktop computer.
The Snapdragon 835 will be able to run Window 10. As a result, you can expect Windows laptops to get significantly slimmer and cheaper.
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I guess that IPhone X shits on my note 8.
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Both of these chips are beasts.
For those of you considering a new smart phone, here's how they compare in performance.
Geek Bench Scores:
Snapdragon 835
Single Core
2058
Multi Core
6461
Apple A11
Single Core
4537
Multi Core
8975
Higher score is better.
People don't talk to much about how good Apple is at designing chips. In reality, they're far ahead of the competition.
You're missing some facts. Apple is charging a premium for their A11 where Snapdragon is trying to keep costs low. Apple is fine charging you $1000 for a phone and sheep will buy it. Samsung can use better, faster chips but it costs money and no one is paying $1000 for a samsung.
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You're missing some facts. Apple is charging a premium for their A11 where Snapdragon is trying to keep costs low. Apple is fine charging you $1000 for a phone and sheep will buy it. Samsung can use better, faster chips but it costs money and no one is paying $1000 for a samsung.
Considering Android has 82 percent of the global market compared to 18 percent for Apple, it's safe to say the Snapdragon 835 will outsell the A11.
List of Smartphones with Snapdragon 835
1. Samsung Galaxy S8 and S8 Plus
2. Samsung Galaxy Note 8
3. Xiaomi Mi 6
4. Sony Xperia XZ Premium
5. HTC U11
6. OnePlus 5
7. LG V30
8. ZTE Nubia Z17
9. Nokia 8
10. Sharp Aquos R
11. ASUS ZenFone 4 Pro
12. Motorola Moto Z2 Force
13. Sony Xperia XZ1 & XZ1 Compact
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Both of these chips are beasts.
For those of you considering a new smart phone, here's how they compare in performance.
Geek Bench Scores:
Snapdragon 835
Single Core
2058
Multi Core
6461
Apple A11
Single Core
4537
Multi Core
8975
Higher score is better.
People don't talk to much about how good Apple is at designing chips. In reality, they're far ahead of the competition.
Apple likes doing shit right. And if they are going to push AR, they need the power.
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I guess that IPhone X shits on my note 8.
This is actually a big problem for all the Android phone manufacturers. There's just too large a performance difference between these chips for consumers not to notice or care.
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This is actually a big problem for all the Android phone manufacturers. There's just too large a performance difference between these chips for consumers not to notice or care.
Fragmentation. I think the OS not getting updates on most phones is a bigger problem. If you want android the only phone to get is a google pixel.
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Fragmentation. I think the OS not getting updates on most phones is a bigger problem. If you want android the only phone to get is a google pixel.
I would like to get Oreo but I guess I'll stick with Nougat.
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iPhone is better , hope this helps
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Both of these chips are beasts.
For those of you considering a new smart phone, here's how they compare in performance.
Geek Bench Scores:
Snapdragon 835
Single Core
2058
Multi Core
6461
Apple A11
Single Core
4537
Multi Core
8975
Higher score is better.
People don't talk to much about how good Apple is at designing chips. In reality, they're far ahead of the competition.
provide a link so we can assess the significance of these numbers
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provide a link so we can assess the significance of these numbers
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/03/22/qualcomm-snapdragon-835-first-benchmark-results-comparisons-pixel-oneplus-3t-galaxy-s7/ (http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/03/22/qualcomm-snapdragon-835-first-benchmark-results-comparisons-pixel-oneplus-3t-galaxy-s7/)
http://wccftech.com/apple-a11-geekbench/ (http://wccftech.com/apple-a11-geekbench/)
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Both of these chips are beasts.
For those of you considering a new smart phone, here's how they compare in performance.
Geek Bench Scores:
Snapdragon 835
Single Core
2058
Multi Core
6461
Apple A11
Single Core
4537
Multi Core
8975
Higher score is better.
People don't talk to much about how good Apple is at designing chips. In reality, they're far ahead of the competition.
Higher score is better.
Not necessarily , Benchmarks have always been taken with a grain of salt
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This is actually a big problem for all the Android phone manufacturers. There's just too large a performance difference between these chips for consumers not to notice or care.
Buying phones every year are for sheep only. Still have a Galaxy S5 and only now am looking to upgrade. Small iterations don't mean much.
AR is a joke. Another way to delude. The next big step will be when smartphones run as PCs through docking stations, similar to the Note 8. Laptops/desktops will be shells with the exception of high end PC needs (graphic design and gaming).
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even an average processor + stock android = smooth experience
you only a new phone these days if you game on your phone
... which is weird. PC FTW
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Just think of all the money generated and spent on mobile phones and apps.
Fuck me, it makes you wonder what people did with their money before mobiles.
a grand for a phone, £50 a month phone bill?????
You could by a fucking new car for that..
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The iPhone has the better camera, and actual photo quality even if on paper specs might be lower.
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no need, getbiggers dont leave their house.
all we need is a pc and the money we save we spend on chicken breasts and supplements.
here is my setup:
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--p9Kxms77--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/18mlbl7sbgcjojpg.jpg)
yes i had a meltdown a few times when reading people posts, so what? i bet you have too, we all have, still works though i bet it wouldnt if it was a laptop
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I'm on a Chinese no name phone running a snapdragon 820 with 3GB ram and it's FLAWLESS in terms of performance. Unless you play heavy games or AR bullshit on a phone (read retarded) there is diminishing returns
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I'm on a Chinese no name phone running a snapdragon 820 with 3GB ram and it's FLAWLESS in terms of performance. Unless you play heavy games or AR bullshit on a phone (read retarded) there is diminishing returns
Enjoy your Chinese phone with its malware installed and calling home bah.
https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/31/16072786/amazon-blu-suspended-android-spyware-user-data-theft
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even though phones have plateaued, they still need 120-144hz panels, i'd take a 1080p 144hz panel with Gsync (type technology) over 4k 60hz
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even though phones have plateaued,
Phones have not plateaued. In fact, they are increasing in speed at the fastest rate of anything in technology. The A9 launched just two years ago was half as fast as the A11. I wouldn't call that plateauing.
TSMC's in volume production of 10 nm chips and Intel is still stuck at 14 nm. Meanwhile, TSMC is getting ready to start making their first 7 nm chips.
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Got a brand new HTC 10 that comes with a Snapdragon 820. It's a year old but got it for under $300. Couldn't be any more happier with it.
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The processors might not have plateaued, but the need to constantly upgrade has. New phone sales have been steadily dropping. There's only so much extra crap they can put on a phone to make it distinguishable from the last.
Think I will get a Nokia 8 next when the price drops, though.
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The processors might not have plateaued, but the need to constantly upgrade has. New phone sales have been steadily dropping. There's only so much extra crap they can put on a phone to make it distinguishable from the last.
Think I will get a Nokia 8 next when the price drops, though.
I'm not saying people need to upgrade. I still have an Iphone 4. The reality is people care about their phone and will upgrade, which means Apple has tons of money to keep improving their phones and so do their suppliers like TSMC. The pace at which the whole industry is progressing is quite impressive.
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i need a phone that can descreetly record hot sluts i see at a club or bar
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I'm not saying people need to upgrade. I still have an Iphone 4. The reality is people care about their phone and will upgrade, which means Apple has tons of money to keep improving their phones and so do their suppliers like TSMC. The pace at which the whole industry is progressing is quite impressive.
The battery on mine is non replaceable. So it pretty much means the phone is done after the battery goes. I'm not a fan of having the phone tinkered with and ruining the original seal, even legit cell repair places can screw it up. They probably did that on purpose to encourage upgrading.
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Enjoy your Chinese phone with its malware installed and calling home bah.
https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/31/16072786/amazon-blu-suspended-android-spyware-user-data-theft
Are you 12 bro? You know you can install a new ROM. Running lineageOS
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The battery on mine is non replaceable. So it pretty much means the phone is done after the battery goes. I'm not a fan of having the phone tinkered with and ruining the original seal, even legit cell repair places can screw it up. They probably did that on purpose to encourage upgrading.
You can have Apple replace the battery for you for 79 bucks, if you don't have coverage or it is pass the 3 years.
https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/battery-power
Are you 12 bro? You know you can install a new ROM. Running lineageOS
Not all android phones can be rooted and/or have roms for them. Plus sometimes it kills android pay,other features, and was bugs. Also have fun installing your shady rom downloaded for a shady google drive account. Smart people, that want android, will just buy google pixels or maybe onePlus phones and not worry about upgrade, updates, and malware pre installed on their phones. Have fun!
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TSMC Ready to Spend $20 Billion on its Most Advanced Chip Plant
By Samson Ellis
It’s getting more expensive for Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. to stay at the top of its game.
The biggest contract maker of chips is preparing to spend more than $20 billion on its next state-of-the-art plant as it’s built over the next few years.
It’s now building a three-nanometer technology plant, its most sophisticated yet, in southern Taiwan.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-06/tsmc-ready-to-spend-20-billion-on-its-most-advanced-chip-plant (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-06/tsmc-ready-to-spend-20-billion-on-its-most-advanced-chip-plant)
Sooo much money to make something so small.
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Globalfoundries: Next-generation chip factories will cost at least $10 billion
Dean Takahashi
The economics of the chip industry are pretty staggering. Sanjay Jha, CEO of contract chip manufacturer Globalfoundries, recently told me that it could cost between $10 billion and $12 billion to build a next-generation chip factory based on the latest technology, dubbed 7-nanometer production. And one for the generation after that, dubbed 5-nanometer production, could cost $14 billion to $18 billion.
https://venturebeat.com/2017/10/01/globalfoundries-next-generation-chip-factories-will-cost-at-least-10-billion/ (https://venturebeat.com/2017/10/01/globalfoundries-next-generation-chip-factories-will-cost-at-least-10-billion/)
Things will get interesting if Globalfoundries is able to leapfrog Intel.
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Globalfoundries: Next-generation chip factories will cost at least $10 billion
Dean Takahashi
The economics of the chip industry are pretty staggering. Sanjay Jha, CEO of contract chip manufacturer Globalfoundries, recently told me that it could cost between $10 billion and $12 billion to build a next-generation chip factory based on the latest technology, dubbed 7-nanometer production. And one for the generation after that, dubbed 5-nanometer production, could cost $14 billion to $18 billion.
https://venturebeat.com/2017/10/01/globalfoundries-next-generation-chip-factories-will-cost-at-least-10-billion/ (https://venturebeat.com/2017/10/01/globalfoundries-next-generation-chip-factories-will-cost-at-least-10-billion/)
Things will get interesting if Globalfoundries is able to leapfrog Intel.
Unlikely they don't have the money nor the current yield
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Unlikely they don't have the money nor the current yield
Why don't they have the money, they're owned by the Emirate of Abu Dhabi. Also, they're getting the same yields on 14nm as Samsung and use the identical process. I'm not saying they'll be equal to Intel, but it would be nice if they were competitive.
Samsung and TSMC were both able to beat Intel to 10nm.
https://www.kitguru.net/components/anton-shilov/globalfoundries-14nm-yields-are-exceeding-our-plans/ (https://www.kitguru.net/components/anton-shilov/globalfoundries-14nm-yields-are-exceeding-our-plans/)
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Why don't they have the money, they're owned by the Emirate of Abu Dhabi. Also, they're getting the same yields on 14nm as Samsung and use the identical process. I'm not saying they'll be equal to Intel, but it would be nice if they were competitive.
Samsung and TSMC were both able to beat Intel to 10nm.
https://www.kitguru.net/components/anton-shilov/globalfoundries-14nm-yields-are-exceeding-our-plans/ (https://www.kitguru.net/components/anton-shilov/globalfoundries-14nm-yields-are-exceeding-our-plans/)
I work in the industry. Gf is behind, don't read some bs internet article and run w it. Money also needs to come from business, you can't live off VCs forever. Leave it at that. Tsmc is the leader for foundries
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Qualcomm is working on a crazy-fast processor we won’t see for years
by Chris Smith
The leaker, who proved in the past that he has direct access to inside information about unreleased devices, said that the Snapdragon 855 chip will be built on the 7nm process and that it’ll be more energy efficient than its predecessors. If Qualcomm ships the Snapdragon 855 in 2019, it’s likely the A13 chip that will power 2019 iPhones will also be a 7nm chip. Next year’s Snapdragon 845 chip will probably be built on 10nm process technology, and will be exclusive to the Galaxy S9 family in the first part of 2018, a report said earlier this week.
http://bgr.com/2017/10/11/galaxy-s10-specs-qualcomm-snapdragon-855-chip/ (http://bgr.com/2017/10/11/galaxy-s10-specs-qualcomm-snapdragon-855-chip/)
Interesting leak from an industry insider about the future Snapdragon 855 and Apple A13 chips to be built on 7nm in 2019.
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You can have Apple replace the battery for you for 79 bucks, if you don't have coverage or it is pass the 3 years.
https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/battery-power
Not all android phones can be rooted and/or have roms for them. Plus sometimes it kills android pay,other features, and was bugs. Also have fun installing your shady rom downloaded for a shady google drive account. Smart people, that want android, will just buy google pixels or maybe onePlus phones and not worry about upgrade, updates, and malware pre installed on their phones. Have fun!
What pisses me off is that the whole phone relies on booting up on battery, done on purpose. You can't even plug it in to use any of it. Cheap motherfuckers
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What pisses me off is that the whole phone relies on booting up on battery, done on purpose. You can't even plug it in to use any of it. Cheap motherfuckers
Lithium-ion batteries degrade over time. Happens to all of them. Going to be hard to find a company that is going to let a phone work with a bad lithium-ion battery now a days. They are basically bombs, hell look at the samsung note 7.