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Title: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: old-school-lifter on January 21, 2014, 02:33:04 PM
http://web.stagram.com/p/531401253927731599_325900975

lifetime natural

http://web.stagram.com/p/551238423748231637_325900975

after steroids- note Schmoe in background  ;D
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: The True Adonis on January 21, 2014, 02:40:37 PM
Nope.

Fooled by angles I see.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: old-school-lifter on January 21, 2014, 03:03:23 PM
2nd link is after much steroid use

the 1st link with Jay is lifetime natural
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: ganero76 on January 21, 2014, 03:11:55 PM
2nd link is after much steroid use

the 1st link with Jay is lifetime natural
why don't you start this thread over and be clear about what it is you would like to tell us.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: wes on January 21, 2014, 03:14:25 PM
Dude`s on gear in both pics IMO.

Like TA said,completely different angles also.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: OTHstrong on January 21, 2014, 03:17:27 PM
all you have to do is look at the physiques from the 60s which still had juice but lets make that a bench mark, and now, simple as that.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: Hulkotron on January 21, 2014, 03:20:21 PM
Jay was natural in that shot.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: old-school-lifter on January 21, 2014, 03:21:53 PM
why do u think the 1st link is steroids?
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: The True Adonis on January 21, 2014, 03:32:45 PM
Sorry guys, he is lifetime natural in both pics and still is.

(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_0150_RRZKRYGYBD.JPG)
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: The True Adonis on January 21, 2014, 03:35:36 PM
Alex Karas is very small and a lifetime natural.  I am surprised you guys can't tell actually.  Here he is with a normal sized guy dwarfing him.

Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: Costanza on January 21, 2014, 03:38:11 PM
Brutal thinning hairline = must be on the gas.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: The True Adonis on January 21, 2014, 03:39:42 PM
Lifetime Natural as I said.

(http://distilleryimage6.s3.amazonaws.com/48157d3ac59b11e2b5c422000a1f9a53_7.jpg)

(http://distilleryimage0.s3.amazonaws.com/6925546cd41611e2bfbf22000a9f1935_7.jpg)
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: The True Adonis on January 21, 2014, 03:42:21 PM
Why are you people so fooled  by epic leans?

As I have said time and time again, Lifetime naturals are easy to spot and do get ALOT leaner than drug users.


(http://distilleryimage3.s3.amazonaws.com/28513754914911e2a8c922000a1fc80c_7.jpg)

(http://distilleryimage1.s3.amazonaws.com/198e1d149cc911e293a322000a1f92e9_7.jpg)
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: The True Adonis on January 21, 2014, 03:44:27 PM
http://web.stagram.com/p/531401253927731599_325900975

lifetime natural

http://web.stagram.com/p/551238423748231637_325900975

after steroids- note Schmoe in background  ;D
go kill yourself now.   :D

You don't know a thing about drug free bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: The True Adonis on January 21, 2014, 03:48:14 PM
Let me guess, you probably think Frank Medrano is not Lifetime Natural either.  ::)



(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MiJmMq-zT7U/UrA-t7_kK5I/AAAAAAAAAWU/uOKwrg50kKI/s1600/b76b1cd298bc11e28b3822000a9f15fd_7.jpg)
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: OTHstrong on January 21, 2014, 03:51:13 PM
Sorry guys, he is lifetime natural in both pics and still is.

(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/DSC_0150_RRZKRYGYBD.JPG)
Because you are with him 24/7 right?

Question? how do you deal with the smell when he takes his shits  ???
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: The True Adonis on January 21, 2014, 03:55:16 PM
Because you are with him 24/7 right?

Question? how do you deal with the smell when he takes his shits  ???
Because I am not a moron like you and realize that 132 lbs, What Alex weighs on stage is achievable without drugs.  Hope this helps, you dumb lummox.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: The True Adonis on January 21, 2014, 03:58:35 PM
Compare him to the size of this girl you judgmental mentally inept morons.  132  Lbs.  Impossible without drugs, right?  Idiots.


(https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1/1001280_10151756670377939_1379901438_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: Wolfox on January 21, 2014, 04:00:12 PM
TA bringing the out the long ruler while educatingdisciplining people up here in this thread.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: C-BuZz on January 21, 2014, 04:02:26 PM
Here is a real 40yr old lifetime natural. Pics were a year apart. ALWAYS soft, virtually zero vascularity. Always look the same.
(http://s12.postimg.org/ws9k3wfsd/IMG_0522.jpg)
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: OTHstrong on January 21, 2014, 04:03:21 PM
Because I am not a moron like you and realize that 132 lbs, What Alex weighs on stage is achievable without drugs.  Hope this helps, you dumb lummox.
Oh I believe it is achievable, never said I did not, you are dumb for assuming this, what I am saying is do you shower with the guy since you know everything about him.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: The True Adonis on January 21, 2014, 04:04:42 PM
Oh I believe it is achievable, never said I did not, you are dumb for assuming this, what I am saying is do you shower with the guy since you know everything about him.
Why would I have to shower with him?

Its not my fault you would be under 130 lbs without drugs.  Blame your mother and father I guess.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: The True Adonis on January 21, 2014, 04:09:24 PM
TA bringing the out the long ruler while educatingdisciplining people up here in this thread.
These people are so easily fooled by angles and epic leans its downright hilarious.

A lifetime natural can always get leaner than a druggie and it will show easily.  Its a different kind of crispness/quality- razor sharp lines, no real roundness.  I think it looks much better than the roiders.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: old-school-lifter on January 21, 2014, 04:14:58 PM
Compare him to the size of this girl you judgmental mentally inept morons.  132  Lbs.  Impossible without drugs, right?  Idiots.


(https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1/1001280_10151756670377939_1379901438_n.jpg)


definitely on steroids in the comp pic

and look @ the face bloat with the classic steroid red face

60kg, closer to 65k-70g @ least
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: old-school-lifter on January 21, 2014, 04:18:23 PM
this guy USED to be LTN
then he started using steroids
you have to be blind + delusional to not see the difference

you cant get that muscle hardness, grainy seperation in that side triceps pic without steroids
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: The True Adonis on January 21, 2014, 04:21:22 PM
this guy USED to be LTN
then he started using steroids
you have to be blind + delusional to not see the difference

you cant get that muscle hardness, grainy seperation in that side triceps pic without steroids
Old school dumbfuck,

You are not only a moron, you are wrong.  You WILL get leaner than a druggie if you are a lifetime natural.  You WILL be harder than a druggie.  You don`t know a goddamn thing about lifetime naturals its obvious.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: The True Adonis on January 21, 2014, 04:23:26 PM
Furthermore, Old School Dumbfuck,

You claim he USED to be Lifetime Natural when he competed at 136 lbs years ago.  For his latest competition he state that he was 132 lbs.  Monster drug gains.  ::)

Moron.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: anabolichalo on January 21, 2014, 04:26:56 PM
lol these guys are all on the sauce ::)
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: galeniko on January 21, 2014, 04:29:19 PM
http://web.stagram.com/p/531401253927731599_325900975

lifetime natural

http://web.stagram.com/p/551238423748231637_325900975

after steroids- note Schmoe in background  ;D
hm is the use admitted by the guy?

i say hes on something in the first pic already.

Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: old-school-lifter on January 21, 2014, 04:30:33 PM
Furthermore, Old School Dumbfuck,

You claim he USED to be Lifetime Natural when he competed at 136 lbs years ago.  For his latest competition he state that he was 132 lbs.  Monster drug gains.  ::)

Moron.

so he came in lighter  in his comp when he was on steroids, so what?
he looks bigger, harder, more ripped @ teh lighter weight etc

TA delusional
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: old-school-lifter on January 21, 2014, 04:34:44 PM
whats the bet this Alex Karas guy comes /is on getbig and will say here he is LTN?

this would be great and prove he's a filt liar
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: old-school-lifter on January 21, 2014, 04:37:26 PM
https://www.facebook.com/next.level.fitness.np

look @ his trainer's gym- its full of steroid users
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: The True Adonis on January 21, 2014, 04:41:16 PM
https://www.facebook.com/next.level.fitness.np

look @ his trainer's gym- its full of steroid users
Yes, that whale woman in pink must be eating Dbol like candy.   ::)

You are on a whole different level of retarded dumbfuckery.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: The True Adonis on January 21, 2014, 04:42:04 PM
hm is the use admitted by the guy?

i say hes on something in the first pic already.


Et Tu?  Joining the moron club?  Seriously?
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: che on January 21, 2014, 04:51:59 PM
Lifetime juicer
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: Spike on January 21, 2014, 04:57:51 PM
*natural in GB terms means You take ANYTHINF AND EVERYTHING in GayNC or vitamin shoppee
As well as any PEPTIDE that the body produces naturally like GHRP or CJC-6

And only oral androgen




And min dosage tren A not tren enth


Also must let other people inject you, don't do it yourself, stay natural
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: galeniko on January 21, 2014, 05:02:34 PM
adam im never serious when it comes to these natural or not questions.

simply bc it doesnt matter.

just having fun, will call cutler a lifetime natural , will accuse che of steroid use :D

it simply dont matter, all each individual can do is train natty for themselves until they feel they maxed out, ppl at this stage will have different results, then they can add bit gear, here some will respond phenomenaly, some wont, etc.

i only care about me ;D

that said,the guy has no size at all and loks like utter shit if not shredded.

why would i care about such a person, i look like a god statue year round ;D

i no care about ppl who cant do the same, theres nothing to learn from them for me.

same for the bigger guys who are fatsos 11 months out of 1 year,and then blow up 40lbs post contest.got nothing to learn from them either, no care on how much gramms of what they are.

its not even i believe or not, its literaly no care 8)
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: Disgusted on January 21, 2014, 05:21:34 PM
Maybe this guy did a cycle once in his life who knows but I will say this, the size and leanness and hardness that he has in these pictures is definitely attainable without drugs.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: old-school-lifter on January 21, 2014, 05:26:03 PM
why does TA get so worked up??
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 21, 2014, 05:26:55 PM
adam im never serious when it comes to these natural or not questions.

simply bc it doesnt matter.

just having fun, will call cutler a lifetime natural , will accuse che of steroid use :D

it simply dont matter, all each individual can do is train natty for themselves until they feel they maxed out, ppl at this stage will have different results, then they can add bit gear, here some will respond phenomenaly, some wont, etc.

i only care about me ;D

that said,the guy has no size at all and loks like utter shit if not shredded.

why would i care about such a person, i look like a god statue year round ;D

i no care about ppl who cant do the same, theres nothing to learn from them for me.

same for the bigger guys who are fatsos 11 months out of 1 year,and then blow up 40lbs post contest.got nothing to learn from them either, no care on how much gramms of what they are.

its not even i believe or not, its literaly no care 8)

Exactly.

One build I'm interested in...mine.

I dont get these threads where someone posts a jacked guy..."natural" or not....and then puts a " ;) 8)"  like they just hurt my feelings.

I don't give a fuck.....LOL.

Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: galeniko on January 21, 2014, 05:38:38 PM
Exactly.

One build I'm interested in...mine.

I dont get these threads where someone posts a jacked guy..."natural" or not....and then puts a " ;) 8)"  like they just hurt my feelings.

I don't give a fuck.....LOL.


yeah i really dont get it, all one can do is try to get the best out of themselves, its not like i can steal colemans chest and put on myself ;D

theres funny one liners to deliberately destroy a "natties" cred,like "whats your stack", what do you use for pct,"nice gyno" etc, but really dont care.

if someone looks like this and that on this and that drug doesnt mean i will too.

the only 1 rule there is, someone on long term 250mg week test will have 20lbs of pure muscle over what he had at his natural best.

individualy.dj181 on 1cc will not be gal on 1cc.(hell he wouldnt be gal on any amount of cc,even a natty me)

but other than that, all bets are off.

Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: OTHstrong on January 21, 2014, 10:41:25 PM
Why would I have to shower with him?

Its not my fault you would be under 130 lbs without drugs.  Blame your mother and father I guess.
ding dong, pay attention, you have to shower with him because you know for 100% he is natural so in order for you to know 100% that he is natural then you would have to have been with him 24 hours a day 7 days a week, or else you are just taking his word for it.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: titusisback on January 21, 2014, 11:27:12 PM
Only an idiot thinks this guy is natural
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: Automation on January 21, 2014, 11:36:54 PM
I couldn't care less either way.....

However, he should accept he is going bald and shave what remains of his hair off.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 22, 2014, 01:03:32 AM
Bodybuilding without gear? Why even bother if you want to compete!
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 22, 2014, 01:59:02 AM
as natural as Adonis haha
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: trapz101 on January 22, 2014, 02:05:17 AM
natural?

LOOOOOOOOL

what if i tell you we both using the same source?
debate that motherfuckers


natural hahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: Mazda323 on January 22, 2014, 02:32:05 AM
What i can say... I give my 2 cents to the Greek brother Alex karas... don't care if he is natural or not.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: macos on January 22, 2014, 02:37:40 AM
this guy USED to be LTN
then he started using steroids
you have to be blind + delusional to not see the difference

you cant get that muscle hardness, grainy seperation in that side triceps pic without steroids
He was using sarcasm as a tool to further his motive of bringing light upon the plebeians.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: Nomad on January 22, 2014, 02:39:43 AM
Why are you people so fooled  by epic leans?

As I have said time and time again, Lifetime naturals are easy to spot and do get ALOT leaner than drug users.


(http://distilleryimage3.s3.amazonaws.com/28513754914911e2a8c922000a1fc80c_7.jpg)

(http://distilleryimage1.s3.amazonaws.com/198e1d149cc911e293a322000a1f92e9_7.jpg)

low dosages
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: trapz101 on January 22, 2014, 02:54:57 AM
low dosages


x2

low dosage to keep the muscle while suffers the diet for epic leans
simple as that
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: Uncle Junior on January 22, 2014, 02:59:11 AM
low dosages


How low? 250 a week low or more?

Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: OTHstrong on January 22, 2014, 10:07:56 AM
natural?

LOOOOOOOOL

what if i tell you we both using the same source?
debate that motherfuckers



natural hahahahahahahaha
:D :D

Adonis getting raped here lmao
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: old-school-lifter on January 22, 2014, 04:00:21 PM
natural?

LOOOOOOOOL

what if i tell you we both using the same source?
debate that motherfuckers


natural hahahahahahahaha

you know Alex Karas?
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: old-school-lifter on January 22, 2014, 04:02:00 PM
:D :D

Adonis getting raped here lmao

TA enjoys getting raped , going by his responses here
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: trapz101 on January 22, 2014, 04:26:36 PM
you know Alex Karas?


no but i know his source
and other 'natural athletes'
LOL
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: galeniko on January 22, 2014, 05:02:09 PM
btw, natural steroid users can ofc get the graniy striated look, lean enough and diuretics will do that.


no but i know his source
and other 'natural athletes'
LOL
classic ;D
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: Emmortal on January 22, 2014, 05:50:14 PM
The guy is flat and stringy, looks natty to me.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: The True Adonis on January 22, 2014, 06:02:39 PM
btw, natural steroid users can ofc get the graniy striated look, lean enough and diuretics will do that.
classic ;D
::)
Ask Disgusted, and he will tell you differently.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: The True Adonis on January 22, 2014, 06:04:27 PM

no but i know his source
and other 'natural athletes'
LOL
::)

Yah, thats likely.  I know the source too, he says he wants you to wear a condom next time.
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: galeniko on January 22, 2014, 06:09:17 PM
The guy is flat and stringy, looks natty to me.
i seen ppl with that look who are on 1gramm+ weekly :D
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: The True Adonis on January 22, 2014, 06:12:15 PM
i seen ppl with that look who are on 1gramm+ weekly :D
Leanness has nothing to do with drugs.  As I stated, Lifetime Naturals will be leaner than you and any other roid user if they desire to do it. 
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: TrueGrit on January 22, 2014, 06:27:27 PM
Singermanesque
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: galeniko on January 22, 2014, 06:32:40 PM
Leanness has nothing to do with drugs.  As I stated, Lifetime Naturals will be leaner than you and any other roid user if they desire to do it. 
nah nah hamdi was not soo natural, still most shredded ever.

or the slovenian guy.


but yeah this size is doable with no drugs, i never said otherwise ;D
Title: Re: Accurate example of Lifetime Natural Vs Steroid Use
Post by: Master Blaster on January 22, 2014, 09:55:02 PM
On a side note. Adonis claiming naturals get way leaner than drug users.

I don't think that a steroid issue. We saw BBers in the 90's getting just as lean as "naturals" can today. It's a combination of pharma. Modern BBers are using a cocktail that is not conducive to getting lean. Probably tied to insulin, but I'm not knowledgeable about the practice to say for sure.