Zimmerman - Self Defense Class or Benching 500 an Up? whats next?

[makaveli25]

Oh Jesus not the EKhul pitbull thing again  Ekul is going to save the world from the DAT Deere vicious pitbull.


Remeber me mother fucker I'm coming for you again you little bitch. This time you wont be so lucky I'm going to for the throat bitch. I'm going to turn you into to minced meat and eat your ass you little bitch. Better get ready.

[RustyTrenbolona]

  wanna fight get attacked by it?

[Radical Plato]

wanna fight get attacked by it?

Oh, I am terrified, i actually have no problem looking at a picture of an attacking pitbull, what I do have trouble is looking at childrens faces after they have been ripped from their bones!  Thats always difficult to look at!

[makaveli25]

Oh, I am terrified, i actually have no problem looking at a picture of an attacking pitbull, what I do have trouble is looking at childrens faces after they have been ripped from their bones!  Thats always difficult to look at!

Prob wasn't even a pitbull you little pussy fear monger. Prob had like a quarter pit in it a bunch of other shit and they just call it a pitbull attack.

[240 is Back]

This same Sanford, FL police dept that didn't collect clothing or run blood tests on zimmerman that night?

This same Sanford PD that didn't release the 911 calls for weeks?

This same Sanford PD that coudln't connect the 6 foot 3 black male in their morgue with the frantic dad at missing persons missing a 6 foot 3 black male, for 3 days?

This same Sanford PD whose investigation is being reinvestigated by the state and now the feds?

This same Sanford PD that ignored the girlfriend statement?

This same Sanford PD that corrected witnesses to say it was zimmerman screaming?

This same Sanford PD that looks like the shiities, shadiest, laziest PD in America right now?


This same Sanford PD that now admits treyvon was running scared in his final minute?

This same Sanford PD that NOW ADMITS THEY OVERLOOKED WHAT MAY BE A RACIAL SLUR JUST SECONDS BEFORE HE SHOT the kid.

This same Sanford PD that admits it didn't interview many witnesses at the scene - they admit it now.

Link - http://tinyurl.com/bm9uqfp - See the video there.



So I'm not going to trust anything coming out of Sanford PD at the moment...

[The_Infidel]

Best response I've seen online ever about this.

I am going to spread this genius.

Spread the word far and wide.  Let every man woman and beast learn of my mastery of the internet. 

[w8m8]

Oh, I am terrified, i actually have no problem looking at a picture of an attacking pitbull, what I do have trouble is looking at childrens faces after they have been ripped from their bones!  Thats always difficult to look at!

you are choosing to lay blame on an animal

an animal that was improperly raised

the blame for "attacking dogs" belongs to the owners


more people get brutalized by people everyday rather than dogs

why not just breed with another hate filled stupid loser and kill your own offspring

IDIOT

[RustyTrenbolona]

almost fascinating how eKunts view on pitbulls, and dogs, is exactly the opposite of black men. just you wait, Ekunt, till a black man stabs and rapes you.  the ensuing crusade will surely be ironic hilarity

[The True Adonis]

Why is this so difficult for anyone?

[240 is Back]

shooter had a history of alcohol treatement, pushed a cop a few years back and was charged with a felony, and had a restraining order for domestic violence.

The minute they punched his name into the FDLE Florida database, they knew that.

and the sanford PD didn't even run a blood alcohol level test on his blood that night.  They tested the dead kid for drugs, tho

[240 is Back]

It may have been a legal shoot.  But:

The shooter had a history of alcohol treatement, pushed a cop a few years back and was charged with a felony, and had a restraining order for domestic violence.

The minute they punched his name into the FDLE Florida database, they knew that.

and the sanford PD didn't even run a blood alcohol level test on his blood that night.  They tested the dead kid for drugs, tho


The lead investigator on the scene believed it was not a legal shoot - BUT - the lack of evidence prevented him from charging zimmerman.  They didn't collect his clothing or blood.

This may just come down to lazy cops in a small town looking the other way on a guy that works with them keeping the streets safe, who despite his anger and drinking, they liked.

[The True Adonis]

shooter had a history of alcohol treatement, pushed a cop a few years back and was charged with a felony, and had a restraining order for domestic violence.

The minute they punched his name into the FDLE Florida database, they knew that.

and the sanford PD didn't even run a blood alcohol level test on his blood that night.  They tested the dead kid for drugs, tho

Thats standard practice for the coroner though.

[Radical Plato]

almost fascinating how eKunts view on pitbulls, and dogs, is exactly the opposite of black men. just you wait, Ekunt, till a black man stabs and rapes you.  the ensuing crusade will surely be ironic hilarity

You have never followed my arguments - I am trying to get the same level of support for victims of dog attacks as those victims who are attacked by black men.  A Large part of my argument is there aren't any support systems in place for victims of serious dog attack, where there is for victims of human on human crime - access to compensation, medical and legal resources are greater for these victims.  Essentially, victims of dog attack are treated like shit, I have hundreds of pages of abuse from supporters of pitbull sympathisers - they're have been demonstrating that Pitbull owners were far from normal people, and once I actually realised that Pitbull Owners and sympathisers genuinely weren't quite right, I began to see them as i would an angry simpleton or a angry child, as someone who needs help and guidance and that their frustrations are due to their lack of ignorance, they simply haven't been loved enough!  Personally, I dont hang out where black fellas are, the're aren't too many in my community, and those that there are dont want to hang out with white fellas.  I have been the victim of serious assault, I have been attacked by three men at once, king hit, you name it, it has happened, but this is a far different topic, it actually has nothing to do with helping Pitbull Attack victims get the compensation and recognition they deserve nor will it help minimise future attacks on citizens

[SilverSpoon]

E-Kul, there is more evidence that the Presa Canario is a more dangerous dog than a pit.

Further, last I checked, the dog with the highest frequency of bites was a cocker spaniel.

[The True Adonis]

I still don`t see where Zimmerman should be charged with anything.  He should be allowed to use his weapon if he is getting attacked.  His Freedom of Speech should also be protected.  You should be able to say whatever you want to whomever you want and not expect violence and if violence does occur, defending yourself should be a viable option.

I don`t see why the blacks are running with this case at all.  Its pretty pathetic at this point.

[The True Adonis]

I err on the dogs side everytime.  We have enough people as it is anyways and if a few get bitten, thats fine by me.

[Radical Plato]

you are choosing to lay blame on an animal

an animal that was improperly raised

the blame for "attacking dogs" belongs to the owners


more people get brutalized by people everyday rather than dogs

why not just breed with another hate filled stupid loser and kill your own offspring

IDIOT

Agreed! But society has no way of holding owners responsible, so the responsibility remains with the government who legalises these dangers!  Its not hard - if there is something that cannot be controlled by society and yet presents a constant and inevitable threat to its citizens safety and the government allows this, then the government needs to be held responsible. Imagine I believed I had a right to rape women, and no matter what minority groups say, I disagree and continue raping women, imagine I told victims that rape was just my way, my nature and a byproduct of my upbringing, imagine i could do this because society supported it and there was only a minority of dissent.  Imagine you were one of the minority who saw that raping women was wrong and were trying to get things to change, well, this is what I am doing - I am 100% certain that Pitbulls are not safe to be in our community, no different than believing that rape traumatises women, to deny that rape is traumatic to women and that nothing should be done to the current legislation so as rapes continue unabated or unpunished is equivalent to saying that pitbulls aren't dangerous dogs and that nothing should be done and that you are happy for children to be killed, just as long as they are not yours!  If you have any ideas on how to minimise the large volume of attacks on citizens by Pitbulls, please offer it up, feel free to become an activist and lobby members of Parliament, If you fuckers truly loved Pitbulls, you would be finding a way to keep your fucking retarded dogs and stop them attacking citizens so that they aren't hated and destroyed, rather than attack victims and breed ban advocates you dumb fuckers should be coming up with a workable solution to save your precious dogs that your insecure inferior characters couldn't live without - Idiots make me sick! Truly!

[BIG_STI]

This same Sanford, FL police dept that didn't collect clothing or run blood tests on zimmerman that night?

This same Sanford PD that didn't release the 911 calls for weeks?

This same Sanford PD that coudln't connect the 6 foot 3 black male in their morgue with the frantic dad at missing persons missing a 6 foot 3 black male, for 3 days?

This same Sanford PD whose investigation is being reinvestigated by the state and now the feds?

This same Sanford PD that ignored the girlfriend statement?

This same Sanford PD that corrected witnesses to say it was zimmerman screaming?

This same Sanford PD that looks like the shiities, shadiest, laziest PD in America right now?


This same Sanford PD that now admits treyvon was running scared in his final minute?

This same Sanford PD that NOW ADMITS THEY OVERLOOKED WHAT MAY BE A RACIAL SLUR JUST SECONDS BEFORE HE SHOT the kid.

This same Sanford PD that admits it didn't interview many witnesses at the scene - they admit it now.

Link - http://tinyurl.com/bm9uqfp - See the video there.



So I'm not going to trust anything coming out of Sanford PD at the moment...

There is no conspiracy here you idiot, a wannabe thug tried living it out on the streets and got put down. Zimmerman saved your tax dollars for paying for this thugs future stays in prison.

[SilverSpoon]

E-Kul, you are painting with a rather broad brush.
You clearly have a throw the baby out with the bathwater mentality.
I do not own any dog at the moment, nor have I owned a pitbull, Presa Canario, or Dogo Argentino (my personal favorite--which also happens to be banned in the UK).
It is entirely up to dog owners to properly train their dogs, but you have made the point that outlawing these dogs is entirely acceptable because the government cannot control the people raising these dogs.
Taking your argument to its logical extension, I now have to ask you the following:  If there were a hypothetical popluation of individuals who committed the large majority of the crime, would it be permissible for the government to sterilize them?  Deport them?  Revoke their citizenry?  
Your argument is a rather slippery slope my friend.

[BIG_STI]

I still don`t see where Zimmerman should be charged with anything.  He should be allowed to use his weapon if he is getting attacked.  His Freedom of Speech should also be protected.  You should be able to say whatever you want to whomever you want and not expect violence and if violence does occur, defending yourself should be a viable option.

I don`t see why the blacks are running with this case at all.  Its pretty pathetic at this point.

For once I agree with you, there isn't a single person with a set of nuts on here that wouldn't of shot this thug if he was in the process of smashing their head into the curb

[Radical Plato]

E-Kul, there is more evidence that the Presa Canario is a more dangerous dog than a pit.

Further, last I checked, the dog with the highest frequency of bites was a cocker spaniel.

yeah but cocker spaniel can't rip shreds through your tendons - the fact is people are actually naive of how much damage a pitbull can do - the attack power of a modern pitbull is not indescribable to the average idiot, they truly couldn't comprehend it - this old argument about a Chihuahua being just as aggressive, that makes me laugh, I could dropkick a Chihuahua across the room - with a Pitbull, you're lucky to make it out alive with all limbs still attached to your body - it has nothing to do with how aggressive the dog is, only the frequency of attacks and the severity of them, and unfortunately for the pitbull, it has become a favorite of those with an IQ below 80, and this doesn't bode well for the general public.  These are actually highly intelligent dogs that need specialised knowledge and care to create a well balanced dog, something even the most experienced dog breeders have trouble obtaining - these dogs are not for anyone, and societies laws should reflect this, even the US army bans all staffordhire breeds as dangerous dogs, although it allows Pitbulls with only a very experienced handler

[The True Adonis]

For once I agree with you, there isn't a single person with a set of nuts on here that wouldn't of shot this thug if he was in the process of smashing their head into the curb

Exactly.  Plus he may have tried to go for Zimmerman`s Gun.   

[SilverSpoon]

yeah but cocker spaniel can't rip shreds through your tendons - the fact is people are actually naive of how much damage a pitbull can do - the attack power of a modern pitbull is not indescribable to the average idiot, they truly couldn't comprehend it - this old argument about a Chihuahua being just as aggressive, that makes me laugh, I could dropkick a Chihuahua across the room - with a Pitbull, you're lucky to make it out alive with all limbs still attached to your body - it has nothing to do with how aggressive the dog is, only the frequency of attacks and the severity of them, and unfortunately for the pitbull, it has become a favorite of those with an IQ below 80, and this doesn't bode well for the general public.  These are actually highly intelligent dogs that need specialised knowledge and care to create a well balanced dog, something even the most experienced dog breeders have trouble obtaining - these dogs are not for anyone, and societies laws should reflect this, even the US army bans all staffordhire breeds as dangerous dogs, although it allows Pitbulls with only a very experienced handler

E-kul, in my job, I have seen multiple dog attacks, including pitbull.
Their strength is immense, and unlike other dogs that bite, release, and bite again, pits latch on and then begin to shake their heads violently.
But!!!  They can be wonderful pets.
Petey on "Our Gang" is Exhibit A.
However, when you have pits in the hands of highly questionable "breeders" who are breeding for aggression, and use their dog as a status symbol, you have a problem.
My friend had a female pit that did not have the ears or tail docked, and the dog was one of the most intelligent, good natured animals one could ever want to be around.  Beautiful dog.

[Radical Plato]

E-Kul, you are painting with a rather broad brush.
You clearly have a throw the baby out with the bathwater mentality.
I do not own any dog at the moment, nor have I owned a pitbull, Presa Canario, or Dogo Argentino (my personal favorite--which also happens to be banned in the UK).
It is entirely up to dog owners to properly train their dogs, but you have made the point that outlawing these dogs is entirely acceptable because the government cannot control the people raising these dogs.
Taking your argument to its logical extension, I now have to ask you the following:  If there were a hypothetical population of individuals who committed the large majority of the crime, would it be permissible for the government to sterilize them?  Deport them?  Revoke their citizenry?  
Your argument is a rather slippery slope my friend.

It has been known for a long time that humans project human qualities onto dogs, we wouldn't be having this argument if it was some weird insect that was killing our children, society would just outlaw the insects and allow citizens to destroy at there leisure.  But there is definately a sick psychological bias that some humans have for dogs. So by your argument we have no right to use insecticides on crops, as we aren't valuing the insect life, we are choosing to destroy one life form so that another can survive, this is the way of the world, people value life differently, but for whatever reasons, and I find this quite sick, some humans actually think dogs are human and are afforded the same rights as humans, very sick thinking, but hugely prevalent worldwide.  To compare human life to dog life is perverse and sick, but unfortunately other people don't see it that way.  Should I not kill the mice eating my food in the pantry at night, should I allow the bacterias that make me sick stay alive and continue to keep me ill, or should I kill them with anti biotics.

i actually think it is you who are on a slippery slope putting humans and dogs on the same level - this is your fundamental flaw in you assumption, that somehow dogs and humans are equal - they are not!

[Radical Plato]

E-kul, in my job, I have seen multiple dog attacks, including pitbull.
Their strength is immense, and unlike other dogs that bite, release, and bite again, pits latch on and then begin to shake their heads violently.
But!!!  They can be wonderful pets.
Petey on "Our Gang" is Exhibit A.
However, when you have pits in the hands of highly questionable "breeders" who are breeding for aggression, and use their dog as a status symbol, you have a problem.
My friend had a female pit that did not have the ears or tail docked, and the dog was one of the most intelligent, good natured animals one could ever want to be around.  Beautiful dog.

Look, I am not an idiot, and I am aware that Pitbulls can make fantastic pets in the right hands - but something has to be done about the large cost to society that pitbull attacks generate - something has to be done - I am all for a solution that keeps the breed alive, but that option has to see the attacks greatly reduced - they're has to be a workable solution, and I am more than happy to work with anyone who has ideas that truly benefit those on both sides of the argument - but as it stands, it seems as if breed bans are the fastest solution for now!