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FLEX vs MD: The battle gets dirty
« on: September 03, 2006, 01:45:30 AM »
Apparently, Peter McGough doesn't like the way the MD has been attacking Flex as of late. and they're not even giving any MD staff press passes this year (which is think happened last year too). this is just petty and gay. Flex is such a piece of crap magazine.

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SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT
When Enough Is Enough


Written by: Peter McGough, FLEX Editorial Director

Over the past four years Muscular Development has consistently gone out of its way to malign Weider Publications, casting doubts on our financial status and spreading all sorts of doom-and-gloom about our future. MD has also taken it upon itself to attack, in a very personal way, the head of the IFBB, Ben Weider; Joe Weider’s Olympia Weekend; and individuals within our organization.

As the undisputed, ABC-audited leader of all bodybuilding publications, we at Weider/AMI have gone about our business of producing first-rate titles, as we have for more than 65 years. We have never bragged or boasted about our position within our industry. Moreover, we’ve never responded to the provocations of MD, until now.

The final straw for me has now come with an attack they mounted on my boss David Pecker, Chairman and CEO of AMI/Weider Publications in their September '06 issue. In The Romano Factor, senior editor John Romano recounts a lunch meeting that took place in July 2005 between David Pecker and MD publisher Steve Blechman in New York. The article adopts a mealy-mouthed and seedy tone (surprise, surprise) in its portrayal of David Pecker as some latter-day Captain Bligh and Steve Blechman as a wide-eyed innocent, there only as a goodwill ambassador of bodybuilding. Steve, he the magnanimous would-be savior of the sport, receives short shrift in a gross piece of garbage that is pulp fiction at its worst.

Also attending that lunch was Kevin Hyson, chief marketing officer for AMI and a colleague of 20 years’ standing with David Pecker. I asked Kevin about his recollections of that lunch. He forwarded me the following.

“As the ‘unnamed marketing guy’ in John Romano’s article about the infamous lunch between my boss, David Pecker of American Media Inc. and his boss, Steve Blechman of Muscular Development, I welcome the opportunity to set the record straight. I was actually at the lunch that took place in July 2005 and I didn’t see Mr. Romano anywhere in the restaurant. His version of what went on is Steve Blechman’s version of what went on. Here’s mine, which I witnessed with my own eyes and ears:

First off, I am six-four, weigh about 235 pounds and am in relatively decent shape for a 54 year old from doing 25-plus years of weight training. So while I naturally enjoy a good meal, I don’t remember, as Romano alleges, “eyeing the plates like I just got rescued from a deserted island.” I do remember wondering if Mr. Blechman might need a booster seat to reach the table.

But my real reason for setting the record straight is not to defend my appetite or offend Mr. Blechman. It’s to fill in important conversation missing from Mr. Romano’s narrative.

Steve began the meeting by questioning David’s commitment to bodybuilding — this was right after David had announced that the 2005 Mr. Olympia would have more prize money for the athletes than ever before. Next, Steve asked a number of pointed questions about how FLEX was doing, questions that David answered openly and honestly. However, when David asked Steve for the same insight into Muscular Development, Steve refused to divulge anything without a confidentiality agreement. So much for openness and honesty.

What I found particularly interesting was that while David had no problem talking about the circulation of FLEX (probably because it is audited by Audit Bureau of Circulation and is a matter of public record), Steve was very evasive about Muscular Development’s (probably because it is not audited and is therefore not a matter of public record).

That first mention of the confidentiality agreement was not, as Mr. Romano writes, when David “threw down his napkin” and stormed out. The conversation actually continued in a calm manner with Steve telling David how he got into the business.

What caused David to get angry was when Steve made disparaging remarks about FLEX Editor-In-Chief Peter McGough and the quality of FLEX editorially and the magazine overall. Steve then said he was interested in buying FLEX and David said ‘why don’t I buy MD’. When Steve again refused to divulge any MD information, David had about had it and lunch was over.

There’s no question that David was angry and that we left the restaurant well before the meal’s end. There is also no question that based on Steve’s comments about Peter and FLEX and his continued refusal to be upfront about MD’s performance, there was nothing left to say.

Finally, Mr. Romano said that I when I left I looked like I wished I’d gotten a doggie bag. Funny he should mention doggie bags. My office is right across the street from the restaurant and when I returned to it, I looked out the window. I saw Mr. and Mrs. Blechman getting into their white stretch limo with, you guessed it, a very large doggie bag – one that looked big enough to contain four uneaten lunches.”

That Blechman, whose title has circulation numbers of about 30,000 at best, would adopt such a clumsy unprofessional manner in his meeting with David Pecker, who oversees a group of titles with circulation numbers in the millions, and then be party to concocting a ludicrous account of that lunch meeting, defies reason, but is not surprising for observers of the usual lowbrow train wreck that is MD.

Editorially, they have gone in more diverse directions than Dolly Parton’s main assets in a raging wind tunnel. From being renamed All Natural Muscular Development in the late ’90s and proclaiming that they would not accept ads featuring anyone who they judged had taken steroids — you should know that Romano openly boasts about his continued steroid use almost as if it is a badge of honor — the magazine has morphed 180 degrees into a pro-drugs, sleazy rag that, at its heart, undermines the physical accomplishments of the very bodybuilders it attempts to profile.

In his September column, Romano expresses wonderment as to why David Pecker would not consider selling his titles to Steve Blechman. “What? Blechman’s money isn’t green enough for Pecker?” he muses. Hardly, John. Here’s the deal, since you asked.

David Pecker has a wide and deep understanding of publishing at a level that would leave Blechman’s overly coiffured head spinning. As David sees it, the Weider magazines represent a near 70-year investment in the bodybuilding and fitness industry. To his sensibilities, Joe and Ben [Weider] and all the staff members who have been with the titles have worked too hard, pouring their life’s blood into them, for him to even consider selling them to someone like Blechman, who would promptly run them into the ground. It would be like selling a Ferrari to a15 year old on a learner’s permit.

Did it bug me that the MD crew attacked David Pecker? You bet. He defended me against Blechman’s rantings to the point that he felt compelled to leave the room. That’s what I call loyalty. For his pains, David then has to put up with Romano (somewhere a village is minus a traditional fixture) penning yet another nomination for a Pulitzer fiction prize. I respect and pay back loyalty. So I’m going to bat for my boss. In my four-year association with him, I have found him to be fair and determined and completely involved in what we do. This past year (due to taking over the reins at Muscle & Fitness and Muscle & Fitness Hers, in addition to FLEX), I have worked even more closely with him and he has given me all the support, counsel and reward an Editor-in-Chief can hope for in a boss. He didn’t deserve the outrageous portrayal that MD presented of him. A portrayal seemingly motivated by spite and a “Look Ma, I just threw my pacifier on the floor … again” mentality. I say all the preceding with complete sincerity. I’ve never been renowned as a butt-kisser and — just as Blechman & Co., are past the point of cultivating fair reporting and ethics — I’m too old to learn now.

David Pecker showed his commitment to bodybuilding by his stewardship of the Weider titles (which are enjoying their best revenue year ever) and by buying a half share in the Olympia Weekend and driving the prize money up each year. In 2003 (the year before AMI’s involvement) the prize money was $530,000; this year it is $725,000, a colossal rise of 37%.

The MD cabal has consistently and maliciously derided the Olympia Weekend, to the point of even lamenting they have to put up with what they depict as a chore. Well, here’s some good news, guys. You don’t have to suffer through this year’s Olympia Weekend because no press passes will be approved for any MD staff. Have a great September 29/30 weekend. We hear on that very weekend that the Disney Channel are running a Mickey Mouse marathon, so if you’re really attentive you may pick up some tips on how to upgrade your operation to that level. Given its track record, we fully expect MD to go tit-for-tat in response to their Olympia exclusion. So go ahead you self-styled crusaders for bodybuilding, ban us from your contest. Oh, wait; Blechman’s commitment to the sport doesn’t extend to that level.

And on that point, Steve, besides a magazine that glorifies drug abuse, slogs through details of sex and excretory acts and whines like a petulant child, just what is your contribution to bodybuilding? We look forward to your response, or Romano’s, since it’s quite clear you prefer not to fight your own battles.

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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2006, 03:58:21 AM »
Peter McGough needs to worry about other things.

Such as the journalistic integrity of FLEX.

What the hell were those odds for the upcoming Olympia?

How the hell can McGouch blast MD for ANYTHING, when his magazine still is producing faked columns and articles by Ronnie Coleman and other pro bodybuilders?

Get a fcuking clue McGough.

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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2006, 05:29:15 AM »
Flex was number 1 mag before because of the enthusiasm of Joe Weider. Even he didnt edit it, its enough that the Boss is great BB fan. But, he has gone.....

IFBB, M&F, FLEX.....all of them are like ghosts now. Its quite natural that other party (with enthusiasm) can threaten them. I am not big fan of Joe Weider. But, I feel it.

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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2006, 05:38:31 AM »
Read my mind.  I think theyre all feeling the heat with everything that is happening in sports right now.  Barry Bonds, that idiot cyclist who tested positive and was stripped of the tour de france, a Miami Dolphin got suspended for steroids yesterday, the Carolina Panthers, etc etc.  BB as a whole is feeling the heat.  Time to relocate to Mexico.
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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2006, 05:44:05 AM »
Read my mind.  I think theyre all feeling the heat with everything that is happening in sports right now.  Barry Bonds, that idiot cyclist who tested positive and was stripped of the tour de france, a Miami Dolphin got suspended for steroids yesterday, the Carolina Panthers, etc etc.  BB as a whole is feeling the heat.  Time to relocate to Mexico.

I've never seen a baseball magazine promote the use of drugs even though they play a part in the sport. I wonder why they don't have "Hit the ball out of the park with D'Bol" articles?


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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2006, 05:45:46 AM »
Read my mind.  I think theyre all feeling the heat with everything that is happening in sports right now.  Barry Bonds, that idiot cyclist who tested positive and was stripped of the tour de france, a Miami Dolphin got suspended for steroids yesterday, the Carolina Panthers, etc etc.  BB as a whole is feeling the heat.  Time to relocate to Mexico.
aaahhhh thats right..
It was time for get out from their sinking ship.
Thats you mean?

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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2006, 05:48:11 AM »
I've never seen a baseball magazine promote the use of drugs even though they play a part in the sport. I wonder why they don't have "Hit the ball out of the park with D'Bol" articles?


Bodybuilding is a different "SPORT" altogether if it even is one.  I dont support everything MD does, dont even read it every month.  Obviously they believe edgy commentary is the way they want to do business.  I dont read MD but when I do i dont for the steroid columns but some people do.  At least they acknowledge theyre rampant in pro and amateur bb instead of making you believe you can look like Branch Warren if you blindly follow a "12 week hard" program.  Come on.  Both mags have some bs.
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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2006, 05:58:11 AM »
Still I dont get why using steroid is illegal.
I consider it like alcohol. Over 20yrs or 18yrs old can consume.
Why?Because they consider that these ages can have social responsibility.
Why steroid is not the same? alcohol has more addiction. The steroid is less harmful to the society.

P.D. I am a very natural BBer and even dont take supplement.

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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2006, 06:02:32 AM »
Bodybuilding is a different "SPORT" altogether if it even is one.  I dont support everything MD does, dont even read it every month.  Obviously they believe edgy commentary is the way they want to do business.  I dont read MD but when I do i dont for the steroid columns but some people do.  At least they acknowledge theyre rampant in pro and amateur bb instead of making you believe you can look like Branch Warren if you blindly follow a "12 week hard" program.  Come on.  Both mags have some bs.

Would you advocate "Junior Baseball Magazine" running articles on what the best gear to take?
I'm sure that nobody at FLEX is naive enough to believe that "supplements" don't play a part in the sport, so maybe they've chosen to take a more responsible approach by not encouraging their useage?
MD's approach is different, though that could change as it did before.

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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2006, 06:04:02 AM »
mcgough says that MD's circulation is 30,000 thats got to be a load of crap there must be way more than that.he already says in the article that pecker was trying to find out how MD is doing so that just proves mcgoughs full of crap and makes a number up from nowhere and prints it as fact
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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2006, 06:08:32 AM »
Flex is such a piece of crap magazine.

Sorry, but I like Flex magazine. And if that makes me crap just 'cause I like it so be it.  :-*

Muscular Development is great too! Those are the only two magazines I buy without ever flipping through the pages first.

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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2006, 06:10:41 AM »
mcgough says that MD's circulation is 30,000 thats got to be a load of crap there must be way more than that.he already says in the article that pecker was trying to find out how MD is doing so that just proves mcgoughs full of crap and makes a number up from nowhere and prints it as fact


Well they could always sue?
Then they could go to court and prove otherwise. Problem is, they can't ;D

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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2006, 06:22:14 AM »
I also buy Flex and M.D. and sometimes Muscle and Fitness. I like the articles in M.D. and the photos in Flex. M. and F. has gotten alot better since Pecker took it over, as the physiques are bigger and not so swimmer-like. Anyway I don't think there is such a thing as "...a more responsible approach." (speaking of steroid use) and the comparisons to other sports kinda needs to stop-not because steroids are rampant-but because there would be no Mr. Olympia without it.Literally, the Mr. Olympia was born on the backs of the steroid Dr.s(my opinion of course) Am I going to go this year-Hell Yeah- Do I accept the train-wreck that is professional bodybuilding-Hell yeah-  That is not a slam on the individual that wrotethe "responsible" comments defending Flex whoever he is. Bodybuilding now at the professional level is a train wreck and I gotta slow down and view the carnage.

BTW- that article by Mc gouiough(sp) on flexonline is too long. Defend yourself with two body blows and a knockout- not two thousand shots to the kidneys.
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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2006, 06:44:56 AM »
When MD went "all natural" they bashed every magazine, athlete and organization that were associated with a "steroid look". When it was ready to go belly up..they switched over. That is when the bb industry and fans should of black balled them...I did.
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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2006, 06:51:26 AM »
thing is that people are saying that MD is always trying to badmouth flex,m&f there competitors but what i get from the stuff romano writes is that hes just pissed at the way things have changed over the last few years.
i used to buy flex but i stopped because i knew what was going to be in it every single month a few training articles,a 5 page spread about how broccoli and its nutrients will build muscle(with a pic of a bb stood in a kitchen with a table of veggies in front of him)and a few columns from pros thats obviously not wrote by them (i especially like ernie taylors column where he gets the obligatory comment about how good his triceps are ::) )

its just that you cant really believe anything thats written in it.its like a 200 page muscletech ad,shouldnt be taken seriously.BUT.....most of the training photos are great,its just like they know what the owners want them to write and thats what gets wrote
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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2006, 07:12:53 AM »
I personally think the whole Blechman buying Flex is a crock and just doing it for the exposure that MD and Blechman are doing so good that they now can afford to buy Flex. He has caused a stir. I was in the gym and I overheard 2 people talking about MD buying Flex and Muscle&Fitness. I personally think it's a publicity stunt. Blechman/Romano..any comments?
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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2006, 07:22:53 AM »
mcgough says that MD's circulation is 30,000 thats got to be a load of crap there must be way more than that.

Yeah, he is full of bullcrap.

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« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2006, 07:25:20 AM »
hahaha I smell a 30 pages debate between Horton and Manninen dude !  :o ;D

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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2006, 07:28:12 AM »
Flex is in trouble, period.  AMI is trying to dump ship probably because Congress is a comin...........
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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2006, 07:32:38 AM »
Peter McGough needs to worry about other things.

Such as the journalistic integrity of FLEX.

What the hell were those odds for the upcoming Olympia?

How the hell can McGouch blast MD for ANYTHING, when his magazine still is producing faked columns and articles by Ronnie Coleman and other pro bodybuilders?

Get a fcuking clue McGough.

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Ever since reading Peter's comments about Ronnie in the 2003 Olympia coverage issue, I am convinced the man is an idiot.

In the actual coverage, the reviewer (not peter) praises Ronnie.

In the editorial and the sidebar, Peter takes shots at Ronnie, at a time when no one else was.  He could not give credit where credit was due.


Ronnie deserved praise in 2003. Not derogatory comments..



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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2006, 07:37:35 AM »
geez, someone get mcgough a tampon already.  he whines a lot.

both mags are poor. stop being babies already.  its like two aids patients fighting over a condom.  no matter who wins this argument youre both too ugly o get laid and youll both be dead in 6 months.


agree flex sucks,md is the best and only good pro bbing mag.

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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2006, 07:38:47 AM »
True..in the same issue I think Ronnie had a training spread on how he build his great physique.
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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2006, 07:46:34 AM »
He said spread.

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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2006, 08:16:02 AM »
Another smart business move by AMI  ::)

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Re: FLEX vs MD gets dirty
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2006, 08:17:20 AM »
Maybe he gives some "athletes" an article if they perform some things for him?