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If Trump were to become president, his wife would be the first foreign born first lady.
Trump is a famous birther, but isn't this worse than having a president who who might have been born in another country? She's probably the most influential person in his life. Theoretically, wouldn't America be more susceptible to falling under Slovenian rule than ever?
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Where was President Washington's wife born?
We seem to be OK wife an non American born president right now, so you might want to calm down.
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If Trump were to become president, his wife would be the first foreign born first lady.
Trump is a famous birther, but isn't this worse than having a president who who might have been born in another country? She's probably the most influential person in his life. Theoretically, wouldn't America be more susceptible to falling under Slovenian rule than ever?
melania will be gone at the first sign of aging, to make way for the newest model of the day.... she's an expendable...
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melania will be gone at the first sign of aging, to make way for the newest model of the day.... she's an expendable...
Like a boss.
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Imagine being married to someone worth in the billions! Even if they get a divorce, she will still wind up with a few hundred million dollars to her name.
She is 100% set for life.
Having that type of life security must be nice.
This is why I want to marry Goodrum. Id be set with all of his money that he has invested in bitcoins!
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melania will be gone at the first sign of aging, to make way for the newest model of the day.... she's an expendable...
She's 45. Her primary job is getting plastic surgery. Trump is 70. I don't think he's interested in the newest model anymore... just maintaining the resell value of the one he has.
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Who cares where she was born on Mars or whatever, hottest first lady in history!
(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/2506486_10.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=681)
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Where was President Washington's wife born?
Virginia.
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who GAF?? Obama is not even an American citizen....... Murica R.I.P.
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Who cares where she was born on Mars or whatever, hottest first lady in history!
(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/2506486_10.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=681)
Hair extends past clavicle, would not hit.
Virginia.
Exactly! And we survived just fine.
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Exactly! And we survived just fine.
Virginia is in America.
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Who cares where she was born on Mars or whatever, hottest first lady in history!
(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/2506486_10.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=681)
Damn
Melanoma Trump looks good. 45 you say?
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Virginia is in America.
The first President and first lady were both British as the USA didn't exist yet.
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The first President and first lady were both British as the USA didn't exist yet.
They were born on the continental mainland, the pre-cursor of America.
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Who cares where she was born on Mars or whatever, hottest first lady in history!
(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/2506486_10.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=681)
LOL Look next door buddy, I still think Mexican first lady is hotter than her .
(http://i12.tinypic.com/2rr81nr.jpg)
WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH
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They were born on the continental mainland, the pre-cursor of America.
It was a trick (troll) question, as was yours, my point being they (she) were born of British decent but were all American. If Trump were to become President his wife, despite being born a citizen of another nation, is also American.
I don't think we have to worry about falling under a Slovenian regime, unless they had a corporation that had considerable financial influence in the states. It's also a little early to declare Trump president, as Obama may still decide to amend some issues so he can have a third term.
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politically speaking -
frumpy soccer moms won't like her.
the elizabth edwards, the michelle obamas, the barbara bush, nancy reagan - they're everyday homely uneventful supportive wives.
i think a lot of obese moms are going to be melania haters.
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Corn
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It was a trick (troll) question, as was yours, my point being they (she) were born of British decent but were all American. If Trump were to become President his wife, despite being born a citizen of another nation, is also American.
I don't think we have to worry about falling under a Slovenian regime, unless they had a corporation that had considerable financial influence in the states. It's also a little early to declare Trump president, as Obama may still decide to amend some issues so he can have a third term.
It may have been a troll, but it wasn't really a trick. My point is spelled out right in the opening post.
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WTH she's German....better than Barbara Bush or Hillary.......
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Melania_Trump_2011.jpg)
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It may have been a troll, but it wasn't really a trick. My point is spelled out right in the opening post.
Gottcha, and she would be the first foreign born 1st lady of the modern era, as John Quincy Adams wife Louisa was born in England.
Do you really think Trump is one to make financial/political/any decisions based on his wife's demands?
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LOL, I'm from Slovenia, after separating from Yugoslavia they predicted our country to become the next Switzerland, hahaha i think we are ranked number 2 on the scale of corruption right after Ukraine
people with bachelor's in Electrical engineering like myself have difficulty finding a job in the field so u get the picture
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LOL, I'm from Slovenia, after separating from Yugoslavia they predicted our country to become the next Switzerland, hahaha i think we are ranked number 2 on the scale of corruption right after Ukraine
people with bachelor's in Electrical engineering like myself have difficulty finding a job in the field so u get the picture
Well over here in Holland we still consider Slovenia got a lot more potential than Romania or Bulgaria or Albania or shit... 8)
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Who cares where she was born on Mars or whatever, hottest first lady in history!
(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/2506486_10.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=681)
Would hit. No pull out.
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Gottcha, and she would be the first foreign born 1st lady of the modern era, as John Quincy Adams wife Louisa was born in England.
Do you really think Trump is one to make financial/political/any decisions based on his wife's demands?
I don't think that Melania Trump would or could orchestrate the takeover of the American government by the Slovenians and I don't think Obama made any political decisions based on how they might favor Kenya ahead of America. I think focusing on her nationality is as ridiculous as pretending that there is some sort of controversy surrounding Obama's citizenship.
The point was that Trump was a big purveyor of this particular brand of idiocy.
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The first President and first lady were both British as the USA didn't exist yet.
They had a clause for that anyway in the 2nd amendment that provides for it.
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
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Well over here in Holland we still consider Slovenia got a lot more potential than Romania or Bulgaria or Albania or shit... 8)
have been supporting Oranje since i can remember ;)
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I don't think that Melania Trump would or could orchestrate the takeover of the American government by the Slovenians and I don't think Obama made any political decisions based on how they might favor Kenya ahead of America. I think focusing on her nationality is as ridiculous as pretending that there is some sort of controversy surrounding Obama's citizenship.
The point was that Trump was a big purveyor of this particular brand of idiocy.
I'm sorry dude, I completely overlooked the point you were making and thought you were strictly trolling.
That's an excellent observation but, Imho, at this present time I think Trump is immune to being called out for his hypocrisy. He's found his niche as the "not pc" "non politcian" business man for America candidate. It appears he's figured out how to play to the masses based on the Trump "character" he created for his television show. He is something different in an arena where everyone else is the same.
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Would eat a mile of her corn just to see where it came from
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politically speaking -
frumpy soccer moms won't like her.
the elizabth edwards, the michelle obamas, the barbara bush, nancy reagan - they're everyday homely uneventful supportive wives.
i think a lot of obese moms are going to be melania haters.
The media will try to find every awful picture of her and take photo's of her to make her look bad.
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If Trump were to become president, his wife would be the first foreign born first lady.
Trump is a famous birther, but isn't this worse than having a president who who might have been born in another country? She's probably the most influential person in his life. Theoretically, wouldn't America be more susceptible to falling under Slovenian rule than ever?
Your "logic" is amusing.
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Trump really kicked up a notch with this last wife
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02833/wives-trump_2833376k.jpg)
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LOL Look next door buddy, I still think Mexican first lady is hotter than her .
(http://i12.tinypic.com/2rr81nr.jpg)
WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH
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Don't these whores know how to smile?
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Would hit. No pull out.
excellent choice. I have to concur.
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Corn
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My next threesome needs to be with this floozy and Ivanka.
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http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/meet-melania-trump-2016s-most-surprising-wife
The former model, mother of one, and jewelry designer didn’t say a word during her husband’s campaign announcement. Instead, it was daughter Ivanka Trump who provided the loving, humanizing introduction usually offered up by candidate’s wives. Melania only smiled for photos and then departed with Donald.
“She is a very confident person. You’ve seen her on ‘The View,’ and you’ve seen her on different shows. Larry King. You’ve seen her being interviewed. She’s got a great style, and she would be an amazing first lady with heart,” Mr. Trump told the Hollywood Reporter, saying she’d hit the campaign trail by the end of August – though that hasn’t happened.
A spokesman speedily declined msnbc’s inquiry to speak with Melania, but long before her husband ran for office, the Slovenian immigrant who speaks four languages left behind a colorful – and at times scantily clad – media trail that offers a window to the potential future first lady.
RELATED: What people want to know about Donald Trump
Here’s Melania’s most memorable moments.
1. She turned down Donald when they first met. Then-Melania Knauss met Donald Trump at a party in 1998 during New York Fashion Week and refused to give the mogul her phone number.
”I am not a girl who will just give away the number to anybody,” she told The New York Times in 1999. She called him days later and the pair have been together since then.
2. Sex talk with Howard Stern. “We have incredible sex at least once a day,” she told Stern in 2000. “Sometimes even more.”
The notorious interview made headlines for Stern’s invasive questions (What is she wearing? “Not much,” she told the shock-jock) and Trump’s boasting about how hot Melania looks in a “very small thong.”
Melania shrugged it off.
”It’s the man thing, that’s how the man talks,” she told the Times.
3. The perfect political spouse? “peaking with Ms. Knauss is like speaking with a huge, shimmering bubble. She’s light, she’s fun, she’s exceptionally wonderful to look at; two hours later you walk away and the conversation disappears into the air. Pop! If anything substantial was said, it is difficult to recall,” The New York Times wrote in 1999. “She might, in other words, be the perfect political spouse.”
Fifteen years before his actual bid, Melania promised to be a proper first lady if the opportunity arose.
”I would be very traditional. Like Betty Ford or Jackie Kennedy. I would support him,” she told the Times.
4. “How to Marry a Billionaire.” Ahead of the Trumps’ 2005 nuptials, Melania and her edgy Dior gown appeared on the cover of Vogue with an accompanying story titled “How to Marry a Billionaire.”
The white satin dress was made from 300 feet of material and embroidered with 1,500 crystal rhinestones and pearls. It was estimated to be one of the most expensive gowns ever made. The bride was encouraged to eat well before the wedding so she’d have the energy to hoist the gown so large she required a bench rather than a chair for the ceremony.
5. Yes, that wedding – the one Trump says he paid Hillary Clinton to attend. Two years before the Clintons’ attendance at the Trump wedding became a political football, Melania tweeted this photo of the four laughing.
6. Posing in a gold bikini on a hangar – while seven months pregnant. The Trumps don’t do anything quietly, and it seems that maternity photos are no exception: for this shoot, Melania donned a gold bikini and posed on the steps up to their private jet.
7. “Where’s my supermodel?” Trump shouted at a 1999 event while testing the waters for a presidential bid.
Here she is a year later, on the cover of British GQ wearing only jewelry.
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The Trump trumps everyone per usual!
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have been supporting Oranje since i can remember ;)
8)
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US even had a Dutch president once.......yes we can !
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melania will be gone at the first sign of aging, to make way for the newest model of the day.... she's an expendable...
Whatever happened to Marla Maples? Easy come... easy go. ::)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marla_Maples
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If Trump were to become president, his wife would be the first foreign born first lady.
Trump is a famous birther, but isn't this worse than having a president who who might have been born in another country? She's probably the most influential person in his life. Theoretically, wouldn't America be more susceptible to falling under Slovenian rule than ever?
That's a pretty big if. No matter how high Trump is in the polls, it is Extremely unlikely that he would get enough votes to win the presidency. If he does, god help us all.
That being said, if Trump won, who thinks Melania would be the 1st First Lady to have nude photos show up? She'd be a good fappening candidate, even at 45.
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LOL Look next door buddy, I still think Mexican first lady (USA DON'T NEED ONE) is hotter than her .
(http://i12.tinypic.com/2rr81nr.jpg)
(http://deportes.starmedia.com/imagenes/2013/06/canelo2.jpg)
looks like canelo alvarez in drag.
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looks like canelo alvarez in drag.
LOL ..
Only on this board you post a photo of a hot chick and people will find resemblance with a man.
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First lady early years.
WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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She has aged gracefully .
WoooSSHHHHHHHHH
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;D
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=579414.0;attach=647220;image)
WSM's newest event, "the Assless Stones".
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She's genetically gifted to have kids and stay in shape !
WoSH TA NA KA
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And in top of everything ...Mexican president has better hair than Trump ! ;D ;D
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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she enjoys being uber wealthy. but wow, she's gotta be so annoyed at times by the droning on and on.
"I'm awesome in bed, I've been told that hundreds of thousands of times. I'm probably the greatest lover since Casanova. In fact, Casanova once called ME for advice and I told him, just be great, it's all about greatness, my Italian friend. I've always been good with the Italians, in fact I employ several thousand of them in my numerous hotels and golf courses. They are a high energy people, unlike that impotent Jeb Bush, who is a very good friend of mine, but nowhere near the lover that I am, as my wife Melania tells everyone she meets..."
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In her first major address before the nation on Monday night, Melania Trump appears to have plagiarized a number of lines from first lady Michelle Obama’s speech at the 2008 Democratic National Convention. The plagiarized passages, in bold below, concerned the importance of hard work and honesty.
“From a young age, my parents impressed on me the values that you work hard for what you want in life; that your word is your bond and you do what you say and keep your promise; that you treat people with respect,” Trump told the thousands of Republican delegates and assembled media on Monday night in Cleveland.
In 2008, Mrs. Obama said, “You work hard for what you want in life; that your word is your bond and you do what you say you’re going to do; that you treat people with dignity and respect, even if you don’t know them, and even if you don’t agree with them.”
Trump’s spouse also lifted a line about children from Michelle Obama, saying, “We want our children in this nation to know that the only limit to your achievements is the strength of your dreams and your willingness to work for them.”
In 2008, Michelle Obama said, “We want our children — and all children in this nation — to know that the only limit to the height of your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to work for them.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/melania-trump-speech-plagiarized_us_578da752e4b0a0ae97c33675
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The high point of the GOP convention night was Michelle Obama's speech.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/19/politics/melania-trump-michelle-obama-speech/index.html
Here is Trump, on Monday:
"From a young age, my parents impressed on me the values that you work hard for what you want in life, that your word is your bond and you do what you say and keep your promise, that you treat people with respect. They taught and showed me values and morals in their daily lives. That is a lesson that I continue to pass along to our son," Trump said.
And we need to pass those lessons on to the many generations to follow. Because we want our children in this nation to know that the only limit to your achievements is the strength of your dreams and your willingness to work for them."
And here is Obama, on August 25, 2008:
"And Barack and I were raised with so many of the same values: that you work hard for what you want in life; that your word is your bond and you do what you say you're going to do; that you treat people with dignity and respect, even if you don't know them, and even if you don't agree with them.
And Barack and I set out to build lives guided by these values, and to pass them on to the next generation. Because we want our children -- and all children in this nation -- to know that the only limit to the height of your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to work for them."
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And in top of everything ...Mexican president has better hair than Trump ! ;D ;D
WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Hair on Mexicans are like boobs on fatties or abs on skinnies: it doesn't count.
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Who cares where she was born on Mars or whatever, hottest first lady in history!
(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/2506486_10.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=681)
She's hot when you look away that psycho stare
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If Trump were to become president, his wife would be the first foreign born first lady.
Trump is a famous birther, but isn't this worse than having a president who who might have been born in another country? She's probably the most influential person in his life. Theoretically, wouldn't America be more susceptible to falling under Slovenian rule than ever?
Lol
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Stupid and unforced error and sloppy as F. Shows how incompetent the campaign is internally
But this is nothing new - Biden was forced out for plagiarizing.
Obama did similar shit.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/2607505/Joe-Biden-plagiarised-Neil-Kinnock-speech.html
oooppppppssss
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So we can expect the same people who complained about Obama and Biden to now complain about Trump's wife as well? Or will they just continue to be hypocrites? :D
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Stupid and unforced error and sloppy as F. Shows how incompetent the campaign is internally
props for the consistency. Many repubs are pretending this isn't a sign of anything.
Lies & inconsistency. Lack of oversight. Lack of someone sitting back and saying "does anything smell funny in this room". I recognized a line of it instantly - only because I'm a political nerd with a 90% photographic memory on minor details. Some actual donors/organizers knew that shit word for word from 2008.
I'm just saying, if this is Paul Ryan's wife, we all KNOW this mistake doesn't hapen. Trump probably didn't even watch the 2008 convention for either party. Mentally disinterested in anything deep or boring.
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This is why I hate canned speeches. Rudy and Marcus Lutrell were much better.
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Hair on Mexicans are like boobs on fatties or abs on skinnies: it doesn't count.
LMAO !
WOOOSHHHHHH BE YE KE
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looks terrible. lifted it word for word, only dumbing down the words she didn't understand from the original speech, in familiar trump style.
either she was sabotaged, or they're just that stupid and reckless.
Paul Manifort, Trump's campaign boss, just threw HER under the bus, blaming her for everything.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnuIsAkXEAA9zju.jpg:large)
Everyone is playing checkers.... Trump is playing chess :D
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If Trump were to become president, his wife would be the first foreign born first lady.
Trump is a famous birther, but isn't this worse than having a president who who might have been born in another country? She's probably the most influential person in his life. Theoretically, wouldn't America be more susceptible to falling under Slovenian rule than ever?
And where was Mobacca born? So far thankfully we didnt come under Kenyan rule.
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I only heard parts but Rudys could be the highlight of the week.
Trump camp in chaos. Pretending it was all melanias fault with the speech. She did volunteer that she wrote it herself and only rehearsed it once. She may actually be telling the truth here lol. Probably pulled up Michelle's 2008 speech, started to write her own, and used the pasted paragraph as her own. Just changed 6 words to easier words using right click synonym.
She doesn't seem to be high caliber intelligence, just like Donald. By he fact her team would let her go on national television without reviewing the speech is inexcusable. Amateur hour.
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As of this morning the campaign is claiming there is no plagiarizing. After all, she did write the speech herself (with as little help as possible). ::)
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MSNBC and CNN are tearing her a new one. She thought no one would notice ;D
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Wrong forum. :-X
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As of this morning the campaign is claiming there is no plagiarizing. After all, she did write the speech herself (with as little help as possible). ::)
They should just blame it on the staffer being lazy and they liked the speech when they read it and didnt know that part was lifted.
end of story - and its over.
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Anybody here written high level speeches. I have...I don't like it as I think top people should write their own stuff....but that's not usually the case. In any event you get a theme and in this case they....trumps people liked Chewy's 08 speech. It was a good speech...spoke to American values as seen by normal....non-full of shit people like her. In any case they built Melania's speech like that and I think they either fucked up and left in a whole pasted in paragraph that they planned to re word or they said fuck it and changed a few things without the total re write. Beck talked about it today. This is lazy or careless...and somebody needs to get fired. I hate building speeches for this reason. You get the theme...you go back and forth on each paragraph and re write the dam thing a million times. Ive had guys who take my 80% solution and are good to go and others that won't touch it until its 100% and then read the dam thing word for word like a robot. Others ad lib and fuck it all up....you can't win.
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They should just blame it on the staffer being lazy and they liked the speech when they read it and didnt know that part was lifted.
But they're not. They're denying plagiarism. Just a 1-in-trillion coincidence.
I think top people should write their own stuff....but that's not usually the case.
But Melaina interrupted Matt Lauer to say "I wrote it myself with very little help" and "I only practiced it once".
She went out of her way to give us obvious lies. She's a lot like Donald Trump in that manner, I guess.
Unless they fire someone, they show us they don't hold national fckups accountable. Imagine the mayhem the Trump admin will bring us, with zero accountability.
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In reading and listening to commentary this morning, I am struck by how Melania Trump is portrayed as a victim of her speechwriters -- some commentators going so far as to say she was 'betrayed.'
This is demeaning to women -- that is, she is a victim? Hardly. Even by the Times own reporting on her history, Mrs. Trump has played her hand repeatedly -- capitalizing on her looks and when seeing an opportunity (here I paraphrase a friend), she seized it to ostensibly improve her place in society. Thus, her union with Trump.
She claimed she wrote the speech herself; she claimed to have read it only once before giving it. This is just another example of the Trumpesque political burlesque that we have been watching for a year now. Mrs. Trump by many accounts, is considered an aware, intelligent person. Did she just dress for the occasion and the part without considering her place in history? She is as much to blame as those writers who 'set her up.' She is a grown woman and should take responsibility for what she says and does. Nobody gets a pass on this one, including the Trumps themselves. Where are those family members running the show? Clearly a return to "The Amateur Hour."
--Nancy Rose Steinbock
So much for Mrs. Trump's values and opinions. It is bad enough that she did not even bother to verify the contents of what someone wrote for her or in any way personalize the text, but she needed someone to write what she wanted to say about herself? It's one thing to have a speechwriter when making a major policy announcement but to use one to provide one's own experience, to praise her husband, to introduce herself to the country? Really?
And the Trump campaign has known for at least two months that he'd be the nominee, and that his wife would make a speech. Don't they have anyone to check what the speechwriters prepared for integrity, accuracy and originality? Putting random phrases in quotes and doing an online search would have immediately found the original speech by Michelle Obama - something an intern could have done. Sheez. Talk about incompetent simpletons - the whole campaign is a joke.
--The Real Mr. Magoo
Yes the authentically felt words of someone else who you need to reference. Sure both speeches were mostly written by someone else but come on Mrs. Trump or probably her speechwriter lifted whole segments of Mrs. Obama's speech. and you say it is nothing. Even worse Trump will not even acknowledge the sloppy work of the speech writer an take any responsibility. It is a pattern when he himself says things over and over that are false and when called on it says he saw or heard it on the internet. But according to you it is not a serious world event so we just look the other way. It was the prime time speech of a possible first lady where she says she wrote. But its main core was lifted from the wife of the president the Republicans demonized the entire first night and Mr. Trump even implied earlier in the day indirectly supports police shootings. Yeah it surely is much ado about nothing.
--BC
Plagiarism is not imitation, it is theft. Spending the last 8 years mocking and attacking President Obama, as Donald Trump has done, and then stealing Michelle Obama's convention speech to "introduce" Mrs. Trump to America is not respectful of her depth or capacity for empathy - it is stupid, offensive and insulting. And it is utterly baffling to think that no one involved with the Trump campaign vetted "her" speech, which was so obviously written by others, to check for originality of content. I mean, they only had two months to prepare.
You say it is much ado about nothing, which may make some sense only in the context of a campaign that has been redefining stupidity and offensiveness by the day. But it clearly shows that the Trump campaign is either utterly clueless or lacks even a shred of integrity or decency. Either way, this is - or should be - yet another red flag.
--TRMM
My spidey sense was tingling the minute Melania Trump started speaking. It was crystal clear that she not only didn't write her speech but she didn't understand parts of it either. Phrases like 'word is his bond' set off the alarm bells for me.
The side-by-side comparisons of First Lady Obama and Melania Trump are cruel. On one side we have the most intelligent and accomplished First Lady in history, who was actually President Obama's boss when they met. On the other we have a woman who posed and dated a series of rich men to get where she is.
Mrs. Trump didn't just plagiarize the First Lady's speech, she flat out lied. She called her husband an 'honest' and 'honourable' man. English isn't her first language so it's possible she doesn't know what those words mean.
--Laura174
So this puts Trump in an unenviable position. He has staked his campaign on calling Clinton a liar. Now his wife has said, in an interview with Matt Lauer, that she wrote the speech. If she did write the speech then she plagiarized Mrs. Obama, making her a liar. If she didn't write the speech, and they throw a staff member under the bus, then she lied to Mr. Lauer. So anyway you slice it Donald Trump's wife is a liar. Tsk. Tsk.
--Oliver
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Melania Trump: The education of a first lady
by Gerance Ruta
CLEVELAND — News that a portion of Melania Trump’s Republican convention opening night speech appeared to be plagiarized from Michelle Obama’s 2008 Democratic convention address threw the two women into vivid contrast Tuesday and led to fresh questions about Trump’s claims about her education.
Though Trump says on her website that she obtained a degree in design and architecture from a university in Slovenia, her biographers have made clear that she left college after her first year to pursue a career as a model.
Not finishing — or even attending — college is a first lady background that’s been more common in Republican administrations over the past 75 years, perhaps reflecting the greater gender traditionalism on the GOP side of the aisle.
Obama, for her part, is a graduate of Harvard Law School. And while her educational background is unusual in American first lady history, having earned a graduate degree is something Obama shares with Hillary Clinton, who also earned a law degree, and with Laura Bush, who holds a master’s degree in library sciences.
Melania Trump, should her husband win the White House, would represent the return of an earlier type of first lady, one who did not graduate from college and instead pursued a career in a less verbal, more visual arena.
The last first lady with that sort of arts-and-culture background was Betty Ford, who studied dance at the Bennington College School of Dance and later at Martha Graham in New York. Joining Ford in the non-bachelor’s degree-holding club are Mamie Eisenhower, who attended finishing school in an era when women rarely went to college, Barbara Bush, who dropped out of Smith College after one year to marry, and Rosalynn Carter, who attended Georgia Southwestern College before marrying and moving with her new husband.
The other recent first ladies are college graduates. Jacqueline Kennedy held a Bachelor of Arts degree from George Washington University, where she studied French literature. Lady Bird Johnson was issued two bachelor’s degrees, one in journalism, from the University of Texas. Pat Nixon earned a bachelor’s from the University of Southern California in merchandising after working her way through junior college. And Nancy Reagan graduated from Smith College.
The increasing educational attainment of first ladies in recent administrations mirrors the increasing educational attainment of presidents and the population at large. Starting with Bill Clinton, all U.S. presidents have been graduate degree-holders, and Ronald Reagan was the last U.S. president to not hold at least one degree from an Ivy League institution. Donald Trump would continue the Ivy League tradition as a holder of an undergraduate degree from the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania.
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Bay-likely Kardashian-likely
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Don't worry, Donald Trump is considering opening lines for his acceptance speech:
1. Four score and seven years ago....
2. I have a dream...
3. When in the course of human events...
4. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not...
5. In a galaxy far far away...
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Don't worry, Donald Trump is considering opening lines for his acceptance speech:
1. Four score and seven years ago....
2. I have a dream...
3. When in the course of human events...
4. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not...
5. In a galaxy far far away...
6. There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
7. Ich bin ein Berliner.
8. A calorie is a calorie.
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6. There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
7. Ich bin ein Berliner.
8. A calorie is a calorie.
LOL!!!!!
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With Degree Debunked, Melania Trump Website Is Taken Down
By JASON HOROWITZ
PHILADELPHIA — Melania Trump’s cribbing last week of Michelle Obama’s lines was not the first time she claimed something that was not hers.
For months now, reporters have noted that Ms. Trump, who grew up in the small Slovenian town of Sevnica, did not obtain an undergraduate degree in architecture from the University of Ljubljana, as her professional website claimed she did. Instead, she left after her first year to pursue a modeling career in Milan.
As recently as a week ago, Ms. Trump’s website stated that she had obtained a degree before going on to become a philanthropist and skin care entrepreneur.
On Wednesday, The Huffington Post noticed that the site had been entirely scrubbed of its content. People clicking on its address are now redirected to the Trump Organization’s website.
In a Twitter post, Ms. Trump said the website had been removed “because it does not accurately reflect my current business and professional interests.”
Last week, Ms. Trump’s speech at the Republican National Convention contained a few lines from Michelle Obama’s speech at the Democratic convention in 2008. The Trump campaign initially denied that she had plagiarized the lines. Eventually a Trump employee who had helped write the speech, Meredith McIver, acknowledged using Ms. Obama’s lines and apologized, saying it was unintentional.
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Trumps ending up looking like the 2012 version of palins Beverly hillbillies.
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Why lie about something that can be so easily be exposed and make you look foolish? ???
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Why lie about something that can be so easily be exposed and make you look foolish? ???
He is a compulsive liar whose public persona is propagated on easily debunked myths, so of course a piddly college degree from some eastern bloc college isn't gonna seem like a big deal. Every time I've seen her interviewed, she's emphasized how she does not plan to be a big part of the campaign... which makes me suspect she probably has something to hide. I am honestly waiting for info about her past as an upscale callgirl to come to light.
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Good thing Melania isn't running for office - otherwise we might have to consider this.
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she interrupted matt lauer to tell him she only practiced the speech once, and wrote it on her own with very very little help.
two obvious lies, and you could tell she's not a good liar at all. Kinda composing it and getting upright as she said it - and trump's face when she lied was priceless - he smells a bullshitter a mile away.
so yeah, she's no babe in the woods. she's doing what she can to bolster herself. That college degree shit is so obvious.
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Obviously she does anal. Otherwise he wouldn't have kept her around so long.
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Obviously she does anal. Otherwise he wouldn't have kept her around so long.
At least she loves to play the Trumpet...
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no mention of Melania on the front page of the NY Post ?
http://nypost.com/2016/07/30/melania-trump-like-youve-never-seen-her-before/
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no mention of Melania on the front page of the NY Post ?
http://nypost.com/2016/07/30/melania-trump-like-youve-never-seen-her-before/
"...when they go low, we go high." ;D
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Is it true that it was found that her college degree was fake???????
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Is it true that it was found that her college degree was fake???????
Is it true that you escaped from the zoo again ???
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Every time I've seen her interviewed, she's emphasized how she does not plan to be a big part of the campaign... which makes me suspect she probably has something to hide. I am honestly waiting for info about her past as an upscale callgirl to come to light.
So, it is looking like that something to hide might be inconsistencies with he immigration status. Wow, who would have thought we'd ever see the day when a potential American first lady's nude photos were exposed and the REAL scandal turned out to be whether or not she followed immigration laws? This thread was started as a tongue-in-cheek questioning of her national allegiance, but it will be ironic if this becomes a bigger issue considering a hard line on immigration is one of Trump's key issues.
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So, it is looking like that something to hide might be inconsistencies with he immigration status. Wow, who would have thought we'd ever see the day when a potential American first lady's nude photos were exposed and the REAL scandal turned out to be whether or not she followed immigration laws? This thread was started as a tongue-in-cheek questioning of her national allegiance, but it will be ironic if this becomes a bigger issue considering a hard line on immigration is one of Trump's key issues.
she is vehemently denying she did anything wrong. But according to her own words, she picked up the H1 visa required for modeling work at first in 1996 and kept having to renew the earlier visitor visas every few months - and you cannot work using those.
So if she was illegally working in the USA, it'll be just another notch in the "can you freaking believe this" stack. Trump ran on 2 things... obama sucks, and the illegals taking our jobs. Now it's melania stealing maobama's speech and stealing jobs from american models. you can't make this silly shit up.
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this sounds fake. No way.
Melania Says Donald Was Her First Husband-Bombshell: She May Have Married For A Green Card in 01
Get this everybody....Melania has said Donald was her first husband but there might be another husband (who got her a green card) lurking in the woodpile....
Trump’s Bad Week Just Got A Whole Lot Worse As Melania Trump Immigration Lies Grow
From the story: In an interview with Larry King Live in 2005 Melania Trump said that she had never been married before meeting Donald Trump.
But, Michael Wildes, an immigration attorney who worked for the Trump Organization, told Univision’s investigative unit that she obtained a green card four years earlier in 2001, “based on marriage.”
Melania and Donald Trump were not married until Jan. 22, 2005 at Bethesda-by-the Sea Episcopal Church in Palm Beach, Florida.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/05/trumps-bad-week-lot-worse-melania-trump-immigration-lies-grow.html
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Whoa. I'm watching how this unfolds with interest. If she married before Trump just to get a green card, it would be too perfect. More "legitimate" outlets are starting to pick up the story. Some people are speculating that she could (theoretically) still endure legal ramifications as a result of non-compliance. I'll wait and see whether or not there was a previous marriage, but it seems pretty clear that something was up with her immigration history.
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http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/08/06/busted-investigation-finds-melania-previously-married-possible-bigamy/
Note the source is a liberal site. But wow, bigamy? I know they lied about her writing the speech, I know they lied about her college degree... and doing modeling shoots on a non-work visa for a major publication is perhaps some shady... BUT I highly doubt trump would be crazy enough to hide a marriage.
A Trump Organization lawyer says she was previously married.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3726787/New-questions-raised-Slovenian-model-U-S-citizen-attorney-Donald-lets-slip-earned-green-card-based-marriage-four-years-wed-GOP-nominee.html
Now, if he's making this up, he knows Trump will sue his freakin' pants off.
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Is it true that it was found that her college degree was fake???????
Yes. :'(
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http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/08/06/busted-investigation-finds-melania-previously-married-possible-bigamy/
Note the source is a liberal site.
Source noted. The Daily News, People and The Daily Meal have all run long features on the possibility of Melania having been married before Trump. Melania released a statement in which she claimed she was in full-compliance with immigration laws at all times. She notably did not mention whether or not she was married previously.
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Is it true that it was found that her college degree was fake???????
Is it true that they never found Obama's college degree?
*i don't think you want to go down that road
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Is it true that they never found Obama's college degree?
*i don't think you want to go down that road
I think you're talking about his transcripts, not his degree?
Do you know the difference between the two?
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Source noted. The Daily News, People and The Daily Meal have all run long features on the possibility of Melania having been married before Trump. Melania released a statement in which she claimed she was in full-compliance with immigration laws at all times. She notably did not mention whether or not she was married previously.
In an interview with Larry King Live in 2005 Melania Trump said that she had never been married before meeting Donald Trump.
http://www.univision.com/univision-news/politics/questions-raised-about-melanias-marriage-history
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I think you're talking about his transcripts, not his degree?
Do you know the difference between the two?
Yeah, probably better than you but since we haven't seen either it doesn't matter.
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Yeah, probably better than you but since we haven't seen either it doesn't matter.
You are saying we have never seen Trump's degree, Coach?
Again, do you understand what you're saying here? The transcript is a piece of paper listing coursework, dates, and grades - and we haven't been shown that. the DEGREE you say we haven't seen - Um...
(http://www.reobama.com/Obama_HarvardLawSchool_ReceivesJurisDoctorDegree_1991.jpg)
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You are saying we have never seen Trump's degree, Coach?
Again, do you understand what you're saying here? The transcript is a piece of paper listing coursework, dates, and grades - and we haven't been shown that. the DEGREE you say we haven't seen - Um...
(http://www.reobama.com/Obama_HarvardLawSchool_ReceivesJurisDoctorDegree_1991.jpg)
Nice try Saul. Show me proof of Obama's transcripts from any school he's attended then show us the JD he supposedly earned.
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Is it true that they never found Obama's college degree?
*i don't think you want to go down that road
Why not go down that road? It's amusing to watch you whine about imaginary stuff like this that only your retarded ass actually believes.
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Nice try Saul. Show me proof of Obama's transcripts from any school he's attended then show us the JD he supposedly earned.
you said 'degree'.
Are you now changing it to 'transcripts' since I explained the difference to you?
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you said 'degree'.
Are you now changing it to 'transcripts' since I explained the difference to you?
Joe never graduated from college. He doesn't know the difference between degrees and transcripts.
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Infiltration Agent "Obama"/Cokehead/Worthless Shit/General Scumbag
(http://www.reobama.com/Obama_HarvardLawSchool_ReceivesJurisDoctorDegree_1991.jpg)
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Why us?
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Joe never graduated from college. He doesn't know the difference between degrees and transcripts.
Coach, do you understand the difference?
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You are saying we have never seen Trump's degree, Coach?
Again, do you understand what you're saying here? The transcript is a piece of paper listing coursework, dates, and grades - and we haven't been shown that. the DEGREE you say we haven't seen - Um...
(http://www.reobama.com/Obama_HarvardLawSchool_ReceivesJurisDoctorDegree_1991.jpg)
He shakes hands like a twink.
He even shakes hands like a think.
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Coach, do you understand the difference?
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you said 'degree'.
Are you now changing it to 'transcripts' since I explained the difference to you?
You can't access a persons transcripts. Its impossible. When I need to order my transcripts, I have to give my social security number, address, phone number, and full name. How would it be possible to gain access to Obamas transcripts? The only way is if he would release the transcript himself. Harvard is not going to release Obamas JD transcript to the general public, and face a huge liability issue--transcripts are not public record. I thought this was obvious to most people. ??? ???
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You can't access a persons transcripts. Its impossible. When I need to order my transcripts, I have to give my social security number, address, phone number, and full name. How would it be possible to gain access to Obamas transcripts? The only way is if he would release the transcript himself. Harvard is not going to release Obamas JD transcript to the general public, and face a huge liability issue--transcripts are not public record. I thought this was obvious to most people. ??? ???
Yes. Those of us who have went to college, or had children go, realize that these are private records.
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Yes. Those of us who have went to college, or had children go, realize that these are private records.
coach,
now that we've explained the difference between a degree and transcripts, and you realize these transcripts are not public record...
Do you want to change your demand for his "degree"?
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Yes. Those of us who have went to college, or had children go, realize that these are private records.
The only two ways I would imagine his transcripts being released is 1 of 3 ways:
1) The university system online is hacked and people find his transcript
2) Obama fills out the appropriate paperwork, receives his transcript, and posts them for everyone to see
3) Obama signs a waiver, which allows Harvard to publish his transcript.
However, option 3 seems highly implausible, since no university would publish someones records, even with their permission. The only viable choice is option 2.
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The only two ways I would imagine his transcripts being released is 1 of 3 ways:
1) The university system online is hacked and people find his transcript
2) Obama fills out the appropriate paperwork, receives his transcript, and posts them for everyone to see
3) Obama signs a waiver, which allows Harvard to publish his transcript.
However, option 3 seems highly implausible, since no university would publish someones records, even with their permission. The only viable choice is option 2.
That is the only realistic one. Harvard may not even have those records computerized to be honest. They may be paper only.
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You are saying we have never seen Trump's degree, Coach?
Again, do you understand what you're saying here? The transcript is a piece of paper listing coursework, dates, and grades - and we haven't been shown that. the DEGREE you say we haven't seen - Um...
(http://www.reobama.com/Obama_HarvardLawSchool_ReceivesJurisDoctorDegree_1991.jpg)
240, I'd like to offer a slight correction. Transcripts ALSO include the students area of study and their degree (as well as coursework, dates, and grades).
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240 and Tu Holmes,
The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) (20 U.S.C. § 1232g; 34 CFR Part 99) is a Federal law that protects the privacy of student education records. The law applies to all schools that receive funds under an applicable program of the U.S. Department of Education.
This obviously includes transcripts (academic record).
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240 and Tu Holmes,
The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) (20 U.S.C. § 1232g; 34 CFR Part 99) is a Federal law that protects the privacy of student education records. The law applies to all schools that receive funds under an applicable program of the U.S. Department of Education.
This obviously includes transcripts (academic record).
Good information. Thanks!!
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Yes. Those of us who have went to college, or had children go, realize that these are private records.
Unless you're running for President. But i guess if a dem called for it and the repub didn't turn it over it would be another story. Do you have to make them public, no but at least provide proof that he went. No one gives a shit (execpt the dems) what his legit transcripts say. The problem is no one can find them.
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coach,
now that we've explained the difference between a degree and transcripts, and you realize these transcripts are not public record...
Do you want to change your demand for his "degree"?
I know the differnce smart ass.
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Unless you're running for President. But i guess if a dem called for it and the repub didn't turn it over it would be another story. Do you have to make them public, no but at least provide proof that he went. No one gives a shit (execpt the dems) what his legit transcripts say. The problem is no one can find them.
But why are you asking 240 to provide the transcript? Its a stupid request. 240 DOES NOT have access to Obamas transcripts records. It falls on Obama to make his transcripts public record. You're wrong. You assumed that transcripts were public record, and since there was no public record of his transcript, he must not have attended. There is no public record of his transcript because its confidential information. I don't care if Obama attended JD school, but even if he did, no one would know unless he made the transcript public. The reason no one could find them is because they are confidential. Where would someone go to look? The only person that can find his record and make it public is Obama. The same way that no one could find my educational records or any other persons.
This is not so difficult to understand. :-\ :-\ I kind of feel like Im in the thread where I taught you how to post youtube videos (Delete the "s") and you still got it wrong. :-\ :-\
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/000/554/facepalm.jpg)
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Unless you're running for President. But i guess if a dem called for it and the repub didn't turn it over it would be another story. Do you have to make them public, no but at least provide proof that he went. No one gives a shit (execpt the dems) what his legit transcripts say. The problem is no one can find them.
Haha. Ok. Like taxes?
Unfortunately that's also not required. People can choose to vote or not vote because they don't see it, but there is no legal requirement to provide them. Just like transcripts.
No one has the RIGHT to "find" them.
If they did. They broke the law. You know. What people hate Hillary for.
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Haha. Ok. Like taxes?
Unfortunately that's also not required. People can choose to vote or not vote because they don't see it, but there is no legal requirement to provide them. Just like transcripts.
No one has the RIGHT to "find" them.
If they did. They broke the law. You know. What people hate Hillary for.
I just mentioned this on the previous page. NO ONE COULD FIND HIS RECORD BECAUSE THEY ARE CONFIDENTIAL.
The same way that no one could find my educational records even if they looked (or any other students). You can look ALL you want. They are stored at Harvard University and are protected by law. Everyone can look ALL they want, they will never find them. Only Obama can release them.
Why is this so difficult for people to understand? lol
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If you're a public figure you're an open book whether you like it or not. 240 can't provide anymore than Obama can. It was never even acknowledged and for the most part ignored by Obama and his administration. Usually when a president or any part of the administration transfers power, it's usually up to the transitional team to vet and verify. We knew Clinton was a Rhodes scholar just as an example and as with anyone proof can be made. There was no proof of almost anything with Obama. Hell, there was even proof from Mooshell that she attended.
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There was no more proof other than people making statements. Just like Obama.
You fell into the conspiracy and don't realize how stupid it is.
You are a fool.
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Haha. Ok. Like taxes?
Unfortunately that's also not required. People can choose to vote or not vote because they don't see it, but there is no legal requirement to provide them. Just like transcripts.
No one has the RIGHT to "find" them.
If they did. They broke the law. You know. What people hate Hillary for.
Unless you're Trump
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There was no more proof other than people making statements. Just like Obama.
You fell into the conspiracy and don't realize how stupid it is.
You are a fool.
Then why the hold out for 8 years? You don't want to acknowledge that there's a double standard between libs and repubs.
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Unless you're Trump
What are you talking about? I just said NO ONE HAS to provide.
People can choose to make it an issue, but if he HAD to provide them to be President, he would have.
He didn't and that's that.
Why does anyone even bother with you?
You win this one Coach. I'm out.
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What are you talking about? I just said NO ONE HAS to provide.
People can choose to make it an issue, but if he HAD to provide them to be President, he would have.
He didn't and that's that.
Why does anyone even bother with you?
You win this one Coach. I'm out.
Agreed. It's better to leave the thread lol
Though, I will say this: Harvard has NO legal authorization to release anyone's records, even if they are public figures. Its a huge violation of the law. If Obama wants to make his records public, he is the one that has to sign off on them. No one else can do it for him. If the Obama administration wants to prove he earned a JD, then it is Obamas job to make those records public. No one else can do it.
On the other hand, should Obama make these records public since he is a public figure? Well, that's a whole other debate. Should he or any other politician be required to? Hmmm, I don't know, nor do I care. What I do know is that no one else can release Obamas transcript BUT OBAMA. Personally, it may not be a bad idea to make it a requirement ha lol. It would be interesting to see politicians college transcripts. But again, they are the only ones that could make this information public.
I'm out.
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240 and Tu Holmes,
The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) (20 U.S.C. § 1232g; 34 CFR Part 99) is a Federal law that protects the privacy of student education records. The law applies to all schools that receive funds under an applicable program of the U.S. Department of Education.
This obviously includes transcripts (academic record).
Maybe coach doesn't think obama should enjoy this same right as the rest of the country?
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Maybe coach doesn't think obama should enjoy this same right as the rest of the country?
Seriously? I'll tell you what. Like Tu says, taxes are not required either. The next time you make an asinine thread about Trump not releasing his tax returns make sure to refer back to this thread. Hell, If that's the case I guess Obama can release his returns but not his transcripts?
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Seriously? I'll tell you what. Like Tu says, taxes are not required either. The next time you make an asinine thread about Trump not releasing his tax returns make sure to refer back to this thread. Hell, If that's the case I guess Obama can release his returns but not his transcripts?
Coach, you have said for years that we need to see obama's transcripts.
DO you feel the same about trump's taxes? Or are you guilty of the same hypocrisy you're accusing me of? ;)
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http://hls.harvard.edu/dept/registrar/transcript-requests/
http://web.law.columbia.edu/registration/transcript-requests-enrollment-verification
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Coach, you have said for years that we need to see obama's transcripts.
DO you feel the same about trump's taxes? Or are you guilty of the same hypocrisy you're accusing me of? ;)
you won't answer this. typical of your kind.
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Coach, you have said for years that we need to see obama's transcripts.
DO you feel the same about trump's taxes? Or are you guilty of the same hypocrisy you're accusing me of? ;)
Oh, but wait. Tu said he isn't required to release his taxes. Remember?
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you won't answer this. typical of your kind.
You're kind meaning you're a lib and I'm a conservative?
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You're kind meaning you're a lib and I'm a conservative?
Typically you, 'answering' a question by asking an irrelevant question ::)
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For fucks sake - lets be honest - Trump got a hot mail order bride he could control and probably pulled a few strings to get it through.
She is what she is - hot, eye candy, and seems like a nice lady.
She is not lecturing americans about how miserable the country is like that fat disgusting pig Michelle
She seems like s tepford wife sort of like laura
And at least she is not trying to take over part of the country like hillary did when she was first lady.
So who gives a F?
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For fucks sake - lets be honest - Trump got a hot mail order bride he could control and probably pulled a few strings to get it through.
She is what she is - hot, eye candy, and seems like a nice lady.
She is not lecturing americans about how miserable the country is like that fat disgusting pig Michelle
She seems like s tepford wife sort of like laura
And at least she is not trying to take over part of the country like hillary did when she was first lady.
So who gives a F?
Meltdown
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You can't access a persons transcripts. Its impossible. When I need to order my transcripts, I have to give my social security number, address, phone number, and full name. How would it be possible to gain access to Obamas transcripts? The only way is if he would release the transcript himself. Harvard is not going to release Obamas JD transcript to the general public, and face a huge liability issue--transcripts are not public record. I thought this was obvious to most people. ??? ???
Most people yes. But this is Coach. The dumbest poster on this site. Nothing is really obvious to him except the bullshit that lurks in his head that only he believes.
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You're kind meaning you're a lib and I'm a conservative?
LOL
Nobody here thinks you are a conservative, coach. Just so you don't think that. They know you hate hilary & obama. But nobody here wakes up seeking a bastion of conservative ideals, principles and consistency, and says, "why don't we ask Coach?" Sorry.
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She is not lecturing americans about how miserable the country is like that fat disgusting pig Michelle
She is lecturing america on the need to obey immigration laws.
Which is strange, considering she was working as a model in 1995 and admitted she finally got a work visa in 1996.
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She is lecturing america on the need to obey immigration laws.
Which is strange, considering she was working as a model in 1995 and admitted she finally got a work visa in 1996.
She probably didnt handle the matter herself. ;)
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She probably didnt handle the matter herself. ;)
in that case, she should DEFINITELY look up what actually happened in 95/96 before lecturing others on how to do it.
I'm all for her lecturing others IF she explains her own immigration issue. She was working in 95 and she said she got a work visa for the first time in 1996. It's a little weak to just blame others - while still taking the moral high ground.
It's like when michelle obama was a fatass, telling kids what to eat for lunch.
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She probably didnt handle the matter herself. ;)
If you are suggesting that a modeling agency handled the process, then it makes even less sense that she would end up with the wrong visa. Besides, she would have had to answer questions about the nature of her visit at customs, so she would have known if she had the correct paperwork. It's actually very difficult for models to get work visas.
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If you are suggesting that a modeling agency handled the process, then it makes even less sense that she would end up with the wrong visa. Besides, she would have had to answer questions about the nature of her visit at customs, so she would have known if she had the correct paperwork. It's actually very difficult for models to get work visas.
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Yeah - im sure - way harder than for wetbacks cutting lawns who manage somehow
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Yeah - im sure - way harder than for wetbacks cutting lawns who manage somehow
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https://www.yahoo.com/style/melania-trump-had-us-wondering-what-kind-of-visas-do-models-need-to-work-in-the-us-200901315.html
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https://www.yahoo.com/style/melania-trump-had-us-wondering-what-kind-of-visas-do-models-need-to-work-in-the-us-200901315.html
There are models and then there are A+ hot models like her.
Stop with the liberal faggtry and bed wetting vagisitis nonsense
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There are models and then there are A+ hot models like her.
Stop with the liberal faggtry and bed wetting vagisitis nonsense
::) This doesn't have shit to do with her violating immigration laws or you making excuses for her, but nice attempt at deflecting. What's that? You probably didn't even handle that last post yourself?
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::) This doesn't have shit to do with her violating immigration laws or you making excuses for her, but nice attempt at deflecting. What's that? You probably didn't even handle that last post yourself?
No - I am not a Trumptard at all but call shit as i see it unlike you oh sucketh of Hillarys' Vagina.
Meliana has zero to do with anything.
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No - I am not a Trumptard at all but call shit as i see it unlike you oh sucketh of Hillarys' Vagina.
Meliana has zero to do with anything.
You call things as you see them!?!? HAHAHA Who the fuck do you think you are fooling? You think not posting for a year made anyone forget that you are a psychopath who spent 15 hours a day EVERYDAY posting any negative story you could google about Obama, no matter how irrelevant or unbelievable?
Yes, a wife of a presidential candidate who is running on a farcical anti-illegal immigration platform is relevant when A)that wife has violated immigration laws and B)she has publicly used herself as an example of someone who has followed immigration laws in support of her husband's idiotic platform.
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People who claim "I am for the middle class" while supporting ideas for open borders, are hypocrites beyond belief. Now those same people are trying to show hypocrisy involving (of all things!) a man and his wife.
Lmao, this one really takes the cake. Can it get any weaker?
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You call things as you see them!?!? HAHAHA Who the fuck do you think you are fooling? You think not posting for a year made anyone forget that you are a psychopath who spent 15 hours a day EVERYDAY posting any negative story you could google about Obama, no matter how irrelevant or unbelievable?
Yes, a wife of a presidential candidate who is running on a farcical anti-illegal immigration platform is relevant when A)that wife has violated immigration laws and B)she has publicly used herself as an example of someone who has followed immigration laws in support of her husband's idiotic platform.
Other than a few hipster douche libfaggots like yourself - no one gives two shits about her, including DT
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Other than a few hipster douche libfaggots like yourself - no one gives two shits about her, including DT
??? Just in the last page alone:
1)She probably didn't know she was breaking the law, even though that would have been impossible.
2)She's so hot that laws should not apply to her.
3)No one even cares about her anyway.
Damn, you going for that gold medal in knee-padding. :-\
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People who claim "I am for the middle class" while supporting ideas for open borders, are hypocrites beyond belief.
People who claim "I am for the middle class" while supporting a candidate who wants to give tax breaks to the rich, deregulate wall street, and get rid of the estate tax (which currently exempts the first $11 million) are foolish beyond belief.
And yes, Clinton is only marginally better.
Now those same people are trying to show hypocrisy involving (of all things!) a man and his wife.
His third wife. Just think the reaction if Obama had five kids from three wives. The biggest hypocrites are the family values crowd.
Regarding Trump and gay rights, I mentioned before that Trump attended the (same sex) wedding of a friend of mine, Jordan, the son of Steven Roth, one of the five Steves onTrump's new economic team.
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People who claim "I am for the middle class" while supporting a candidate who wants to give tax breaks to the rich, deregulate wall street, and get rid of the estate tax (which currently exempts the first $11 million) are foolish beyond belief.
And yes, Clinton is only marginally better.
His third wife. Just think the reaction if Obama had five kids from three wives. The biggest hypocrites are the family values crowd.
Regarding Trump and gay rights, I mentioned before that Trump attended the (same sex) wedding of a friend of mine, Jordan, the son of Steven Roth, one of the five Steves onTrump's new economic team.
Granny Clinton is for KenyaCare - which is a dagger to the middle class
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Just think the reaction if Obama had five kids from three wives.
bwahahaha people would be FREAKING out.
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bwahahaha people would be FREAKING out.
Obama is gay so that wouldnt happen. By all reporting he never had any real girlfriends until the Beast from parts unknown, which is questionable if a female or not.
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Granny Clinton is for KenyaCare - which is a dagger to the middle class
Most anyone working for a large company gets their insurance through their employer. Obamacare does the following: allows you to keep your current insurance if you change jobs, keep your kids on your policy until age 26, requires minimum coverage amounts.
If you don't get your insurance through work, Obamacare prevents you from being denied for pre-existing conditions, gives you subsidies if you don't make enough to buy your own insurance, gets rid of those bogus plans that really didn't cover anything.
American health care was in crisis before Obamacare, with 16-20% yearly increases in cost. It was not going to survive one way or another. Obamacare slowed those increases, but maybe not by enough. We will eventually get to single payer.
If you think that Obamacare puts an undue burden on small (or big) businesses, which then affects the middle class, then you should be all for single payer. Just think if no company had to worry about the cost of health care.
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By all reporting he never had any real girlfriends until the Beast from parts unknown, which is questionable if a female or not.
I don't understand this misogyny aimed at Michelle Obama. She is a good looking successful business woman. She is better looking that most of the first ladies of the last 50 years. Perhaps it is not really misogyny, but racism.
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The only question I have is why does everyone pick on Michelle Obama about everything, then say that Melania's life doesn't count because she's not running for President?
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The only question I have is why does everyone pick on Michelle Obama about everything, then say that Melania's life doesn't count because she's not running for President?
particularly because melania isn't just smiling along - she is giving speeches condemning those who don't follow the law.
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http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/08/06/busted-investigation-finds-melania-previously-married-possible-bigamy/
Note the source is a liberal site. But wow, bigamy? I know they lied about her writing the speech, I know they lied about her college degree... and doing modeling shoots on a non-work visa for a major publication is perhaps some shady... BUT I highly doubt trump would be crazy enough to hide a marriage.
A Trump Organization lawyer says she was previously married.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3726787/New-questions-raised-Slovenian-model-U-S-citizen-attorney-Donald-lets-slip-earned-green-card-based-marriage-four-years-wed-GOP-nominee.html
Now, if he's making this up, he knows Trump will sue his freakin' pants off.
Is it possible that Melania keep this little tidbit from her sugar daddy, Donald? If she did, I feel sorry for her even though she's deserves some shit about it.
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Most anyone working for a large company gets their insurance through their employer. Obamacare does the following: allows you to keep your current insurance if you change jobs, keep your kids on your policy until age 26, requires minimum coverage amounts.
If you don't get your insurance through work, Obamacare prevents you from being denied for pre-existing conditions, gives you subsidies if you don't make enough to buy your own insurance, gets rid of those bogus plans that really didn't cover anything.
American health care was in crisis before Obamacare, with 16-20% yearly increases in cost. It was not going to survive one way or another. Obamacare slowed those increases, but maybe not by enough. We will eventually get to single payer.
If you think that Obamacare puts an undue burden on small (or big) businesses, which then affects the middle class, then you should be all for single payer. Just think if no company had to worry about the cost of health care.
STFU you are utterly clueless.
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I don't understand this misogyny aimed at Michelle Obama. She is a good looking successful business woman. She is better looking that most of the first ladies of the last 50 years. Perhaps it is not really misogyny, but racism.
Really - what was michelle succesful in business wise?
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STFU you are utterly clueless.
Assuming you mean his take on Obamacare.
Examples of why this might be the case would help....do you happen to have any which are indisputable?
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Assuming you mean his take on Obamacare.
Examples of why this might be the case would help....do you happen to have any which are indisputable?
You are on medicare so you dont know - ask anyone who pays out of pocket what has happened since Obamacare was passed. Its a disaster as bad as predicted.
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It might be interesting to discuss how Obamacare has affected medical insurance coverage in general.
Regence MedAdvantage has considerably lower premiums than it had in the past several years. However, the coverage isn't as good. It's becoming more like catastrophic coverage. I will never reach the point this year where my out-of-pocket prescription costs hit the maximum. So far since January, insurance only paid about 10% of the total cost of my prescriptions. Maximum out-of-pocket medical cost for me (which are separate from prescriptions) has almost doubled from about $3,400 to $6,700. It seems like we are going back to the old major med type plans.
Obviously, I wouldn't qualify for a Marketplace insurance plan, (Obamacare). This is for a couple of reasons. One is that my income is far too high and another is that I'm on Medicare.
Here is the message I get when I submit my stats:
"Above $47,080
You won't qualify for savings on a Marketplace insurance plan. You can buy insurance through the Marketplace at full price, or buy from other sources."
https://www.healthcare.gov/lower-costs/qualifying-for-lower-costs/ (https://www.healthcare.gov/lower-costs/qualifying-for-lower-costs/)
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STFU you are utterly clueless.
Sweet rebuttal. Ivy league debate team by chance?
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You are on medicare so you dont know - ask anyone who pays out of pocket what has happened since Obamacare was passed. Its a disaster as bad as predicted.
My employer based coverage went down $5 per paycheck this year. 1st time that's happened since before W was in office. Co-pays have stayed the same. Deductibles have stayed the same and total amount that can come out of pocket now has a cap on it. Oh, and there's about 20 million more people that can now go to the doctor instead of the ER for garden variety illnesses as well as preventative care.
Sorry if the facts hurt.
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My employer based coverage went down $5 per paycheck this year. 1st time that's happened since before W was in office. Co-pays have stayed the same. Deductibles have stayed the same and total amount that can come out of pocket now has a cap on it. Oh, and there's about 20 million more people that can now go to the doctor instead of the ER for garden variety illnesses as well as preventative care.
Sorry if the facts hurt.
Interesting. My family plan went from $426 to $1238 per month. It's great that I get to pay for someone that doesn't have the drive to succeed so others can pay for them and their kids. Yeah, I'm speaking to you. Sorry if the facts hurt.
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Interesting. My family plan went from $426 to $1238 per month. It's great that I get to pay for someone that doesn't have the drive to succeed so others can pay for them and their kids. Yeah, I'm speaking to you. Sorry if the facts hurt.
Are you intoxicated? My cost was $208 every paycheck in 2015. In 2016 it is $203. Is your insurance employer based? Or do you buy your own? Either way, you lying about something. Perhaps the plan that cost you $426 and covered nothing became obsolete because of the fact that it didn't insure shit? If your paying $1238 a month, then you are either making really good money or are too stupid to check to see what kind of subsidy you qualify for or perhaps you're too stubborn/stupid to look on the "Obamacare" exchange. Wish I could help you, but you know the saying: you can't fix stupid. Yes, I am speaking directly to you. Just trying to help.
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Really - what was michelle succesful in business wise?
Ok, not business, but certainly a successful professional. She is a lawyer, having graduated from Harvard Law.
After law school, Michelle worked as an associate in the Chicago branch of the firm Sidley Austin, in the area of marketing and intellectual property.
In 1991, Michelle decided to leave corporate law and pursue a career in public service, working as an assistant to Mayor Richard Daley and then as the assistant commissioner of planning and development for the City of Chicago.
In 1993, she became executive director for the Chicago office of Public Allies, a nonprofit leadership-training program that helped young adults develop skills for future careers in the public sector.
In 1996, Michelle joined the University of Chicago as associate dean of student services, developing the school’s first community-service program. Beginning in 2002, she worked for the University of Chicago Hospitals, as executive director of community relations and external affairs.
In May 2005, Michelle was appointed vice president for community and external affairs at the University of Chicago Medical Center, where she continued to work part-time until shortly before her husband's inauguration as president. She also served as a board member for the prestigious Chicago Council on Global Affairs.
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People who claim "I am for the middle class" while supporting a candidate who wants to give tax breaks to the rich, deregulate wall street, and get rid of the estate tax (which currently exempts the first $11 million) are foolish beyond belief.
And yes, Clinton is only marginally better.
She's much worse, actually, because she won't do so much as admit the trouble with our immigration practices. We'll soon be left with all these many people who have nothing to do but suffer. It will be our responsibility to deal with. Let's not pretend the wealthy will bother to do anything but laugh as it occurs, either, even though they are the ones creating it (with your help, Tim).
His third wife. Just think the reaction if Obama had five kids from three wives. The biggest hypocrites are the family values crowd.
Regarding Trump and gay rights, I mentioned before that Trump attended the (same sex) wedding of a friend of mine, Jordan, the son of Steven Roth, one of the five Steves onTrump's new economic team.
Blacks with an accurate compass would be the first to have a strong reaction to it, and we know exactly why.
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She's much worse, actually, because she won't do so much as admit the trouble with our immigration practices. We'll soon be left with all these many people who have nothing to do but suffer. It will be our responsibility to deal with. Let's not pretend the wealthy will bother to do anything but laugh as it occurs, either, even though they are the ones creating it (with your help, Tim).
Blacks with an accurate compass would be the first to have a strong reaction to it, and we know exactly why.
Would you mind clarifying this highlighted part?
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Would you mind clarifying this highlighted part?
Because the fact is, ghetto behavior says it's normal and acceptable to produce children without taking responsibility for it.
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Because the fact is, ghetto behavior says it's normal and acceptable to produce children without taking responsibility for it.
They make the rest of take responsibility for their inability to keep it zipped.
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Because the fact is, ghetto behavior says it's normal and acceptable to produce children without taking responsibility for it.
Ah..
Yes. Agreed. That is a huge problem with the black community.
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They make the rest of take responsibility for their inability to keep it zipped.
I remember when Obama took office and there was a surge in males trying to show responsibility, but it looks like that disappeared just as quickly.
Btw, funny how their hero is all about flooding the country with Mexicans, Central Americans, Chinese, and on and on. All to the end that Blacks can't catch a break for shit.
A little OT, but Obama reminds me of some sort of Asian, anyway. He doesn't look at all like any mulatto I've seen. Wouldn't surprise me if he didn't have a connection with them in the first place.
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I remember when Obama took office and there was a surge in males trying to show responsibility, but it looks like that disappeared just as quickly.
Btw, funny how their hero is all about flooding the country with Mexicans, Central Americans, Chinese, and on and on. All to the end that Blacks can't catch a break for shit.
A little OT, but Obama reminds me of some sort of Asian, anyway. He doesn't look at all like any mulatto I've seen. Wouldn't surprise me if he didn't have a connection with them in the first place.
O-twink is gay and was raised by a Tranny in Indonesia and brought up in a muslim school. Its amazing, and quite laughable and hilarious, how American blacks have associated him with them. He has as much in common w Andre and Benny as i do.
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O-twink is gay and was raised by a Tranny in Indonesia and brought up in a muslim school. Its amazing, and quite laughable and hilarious, how American blacks have associated him with them. He has as much in common w Andre and Benny as i do.
Yeah, exactly. The utter stupidity of them blindly backing this guy, is actually terrifying to watch. Hasn't it occurred to them how vulnerable it makes the nation, to do things so thoughtlessly?
Fact is, they were punked. Hard. Only consolation is that Hillary's woman-card was weakened in the process. We know "electing a woman" will pan out just as worthlessly as "electing a person of color", if said individuals suck just the same.
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Interesting. My family plan went from $426 to $1238 per month. It's great that I get to pay for someone that doesn't have the drive to succeed so others can pay for them and their kids. Yeah, I'm speaking to you. Sorry if the facts hurt.
Work for someone else. If as a self-employed person, you are paying only $1,238 a month for full family health insurance, you're rates are not that bad.
These are examples of what family health care costs were on average a year ago.
Employer paid:
Annual premiums for employer-sponsored family health coverage reached $17,545 this year, up 4 percent from last year, with workers on average paying $4,955 towards the cost of their coverage, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation/Health Research & Education Trust 2015 Employer Health Benefits Survey.Sep 22, 2015
Individual health insurance:
Average premiums and deductibles nationwide unsubsidized shoppers: Premiums for individual coverage averaged $286 per month while premiums for family plans averaged $727 per month. The average annual deductible for individual plans was $4,120 and the average deductible for family plans was $7,760.Sep 28, 2015
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Are you intoxicated? My cost was $208 every paycheck in 2015. In 2016 it is $203. Is your insurance employer based? Or do you buy your own? Either way, you lying about something. Perhaps the plan that cost you $426 and covered nothing became obsolete because of the fact that it didn't insure shit? If your paying $1238 a month, then you are either making really good money or are too stupid to check to see what kind of subsidy you qualify for or perhaps you're too stubborn/stupid to look on the "Obamacare" exchange. Wish I could help you, but you know the saying: you can't fix stupid. Yes, I am speaking directly to you. Just trying to help.
Coach is self-employed.
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Mine has skyrocketed. Obamacare sucks.
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Are you intoxicated? My cost was $208 every paycheck in 2015. In 2016 it is $203. Is your insurance employer based? Or do you buy your own? Either way, you lying about something. Perhaps the plan that cost you $426 and covered nothing became obsolete because of the fact that it didn't insure shit? If your paying $1238 a month, then you are either making really good money or are too stupid to check to see what kind of subsidy you qualify for or perhaps you're too stubborn/stupid to look on the "Obamacare" exchange. Wish I could help you, but you know the saying: you can't fix stupid. Yes, I am speaking directly to you. Just trying to help.
They take it out of your monthly prison stipend - that doesnt count. Secondly - not everyone wants welfare like you do.
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They take it out of your monthly prison stipend - that doesnt count. Secondly - not everyone wants welfare like you do.
Whatever you need to tell yourself, midget.