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The cross is a pagan symbol.
Christianity is also a religion that borrows off of many older ones.
The use of the cross as a religious symbol in pre-Christian times, and among non-Christian peoples, may probably be regarded as almost universal, and in very many cases it was connected with some form of nature worship."
(The Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th edition, 1910, volume 7, page 506)
When the Council of Nicea took place, the Emperor Constantine
- Declared the Roman Sun-day to be the Christian Sabbath.
- Adopted the traditional birthday of the Sun-god, and the twenty-fifth of December, as the birthday of Jesus;
- Borrowed the emblem of the Sun-god, the cross of light, to be the emblem of Christianity;
- And, although the statue of Jesus replaced the idol of the Sun-god, decided to incorporate all the ceremonies which were performed at the Sub-gods birthday celebrations into their own ceremonies.
“The Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun.”
- Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason
The scholar Tom Harper states:
“The divine teacher is called, is tested by the “adversary”, gathers disciples, heals the sick, preaches the Good News about God’s kingdom, finally runs afoul of his bitter enemies, suffers, dies, and is resurrected after three days. This is the total pattern of the sun god in all the ancient dramas”. (The Pagan Christ, p. 145)
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Anyone wishing to read more about this, I suggest this website:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/cross_pagan_origins.htm (http://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/cross_pagan_origins.htm)
It's very informative.
It's always good to keep an open mind. I find the sun god theory very believable, when it comes to explaining the origins of christianity.
The basic outlines were used by many cultures and have evolved different characteristics over time and cultural backgrounds.
This concept seems so clear to me.
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I thought you quit drinking! :D
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I thought you quit drinking! :D
Read the link if you want. I have always had an interest in religion (without being religious) and I find this hard to ignore.
I am not saying what to believe in, or that this unlocks the secret to anything.
I just find this theory far more plausible than anything in the bible actually happening.
I believe Christianity is a rehash at its core.
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Nothing new under The Sun.
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Nothing new under The Sun.
:D
I would really like to get some Christian views on this.
I hope it's not just "The I have faith" canned response.
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The scholar Timothy Freke says:
The Vatican was constructed upon the site of an ancient Pagan sanctuary because the new is always built upon the old. In the same way Christianity itself has as its foundations the Pagan spirituality that preceded it. (ibid, p. 12)
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WYHI?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Louis_XIV_of_France.jpg)
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WYHI?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Louis_XIV_of_France.jpg)
He has skipped many a leg day. Would not hit. Also wearing heals, clearly a schmoe.
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He has skipped many a leg day. Would not hit. Also wearing heals, clearly a schmoe.
You sun of a bitch you! :D
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You sun of a bitch you! :D
Lets meet up tomorrow. Sun-day :-*
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People who are referred to as 'scholars' usually have no academic backgrounds.
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"That which is now called the Christian cross was originally no Christian emblem at all, but was the mystic Tau of the Chaldeans and Egyptians -- the true original form of the letter T -- the initial of the name of Tammuz [...] That mystic Tau was marked in baptism on the foreheads of those initiated in the Mysteries, and was used in every variety of way as a most sacred symbol. [...] The Vestal virgins of Pagan Rome wore it suspended from their necklaces, as the nuns do now. The Egyptians did the same [...] There is hardly a Pagan tribe where the cross has not been found. The cross was worshipped by the Pagan Celts long before the incarnation and death of Christ."
"The ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic symbol of life -- the ankh, a tau cross surmounted by a loop and known as crux ansata -- was adopted and extensively used on Coptic Christian monuments." (The New Encyclopedia Britannica, 15th edition, 1995, volume 3, page 753)
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The truth can be found here, evilbible.com
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People who are referred to as 'scholars' usually have no academic backgrounds.
And what is your take on this theory Dr. Chimps?
I think it all makes perfect sense, but that is coming from a fat alcoholic, who faked his own death.
I'd call that a seal of approval ;D
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Shizzo returned from the dead so we hail the new Messiah!
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Shizzo returned from the dead so we hail the new Messiah!
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And what is your take on this theory Dr. Chimps?
I think it all makes perfect sense, but that is coming from a fat alcoholic, who faked his own death.
I'd call that a seal of approval ;D
Religions are complicated fairy tales. But narratives like, like religion, are one of the ways humans try to make 'sense' of our existence.
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Religions are complicated fairy tales. But narratives like, like religion, are one of the ways humans try to make 'sense' of our existence.
I agree of course, but I feel that this is the easiest way for people to see how Christianity probably originated.
Did you read the link? I find it both logical and comprehensive.
I would love for Man of Steel to read the link, and give us his thoughts.
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Son
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Son
Not sure if serious..... :D
You do know that there is a point to the title of the thread right?
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Horus=Rising Sun, Ra=Noon Sun, Osiris=setting sun. Since Osiris is the god of the dead. Him representing the setting sun, means he is representing the sun dying.
Amon-Ra=Amon is the creator. And Ra is an older sun God. Combine the two and it's Supreme Creator Sun God.
In Egypt it was Amenhotep IV who decided to not worship the Gods of old and create a monotheistic religion of worshipping the sun, represented by a sun disc and called aten.
The odd thing about Amenhotep IV, is that he is depicted as a long faced, and wide hipped male. Whose waist is small, with a small gut, and rounded feminine hips that are wider than his shoulders
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Horus=Rising Sun, Ra=Noon Sun, Osiris=setting sun. Since Osiris is the god of the dead. Him representing the setting sun, means he is representing the sun dying.
Amon-Ra=Amon is the creator. And Ra is an older sun God. Combine the two and it's Supreme Creator Sun God.
In Egypt it was Amenhotep IV who decided to not worship the Gods of old and create a monotheistic religion of worshipping the sun, represented by a sun disc and called aten.
The odd thing about Amenhotep IV, is that he is depicted as a long faced, and wide hipped male. Whose waist is small, with a small gut, and rounded feminine hips that are wider than his shoulders
With the birth of man came wonder. Nothing has changed (except the stories) since then.
Every single ethnicity of homosapiens from the dawn of time, has had their stories, traditions, and gods.
How can Christianity and Islam claim to be the absolute then?
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With the birth of man came wonder. Nothing has changed (except the stories) since then.
Every single ethnicity of homosapiens from the dawn of time, has had their stories, traditions, and gods.
How can Christianity and Judaism and Islam claim to be the absolute then?
Fixed...
All claim to have the "way"...and any all religions after that claim to have "the way". It is the way of humans. Either you follow my way or you are against my way.
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Fixed...
All claim to have the "way"...and any all religions after that claim to have "the way". It is the way of humans. Either you follow my way or you are against my way.
Multiple "ways" cancel every way by default, in my opinion.
People born on a isolated island would have no concept of our gods. They would create their own.
The only universal human trait is the fear of oblivion.
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The Apostle Peter was crucified upside down for his faith in the Christ. If it were a lie, no one have died for it. Including the Christ.
Believe as you wish.
Be well.
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The Apostle Peter was crucified upside down for his faith in the Christ. If it were a lie, no one have died for it. Including the Christ.
Believe as you wish.
Be well.
There are people willing to die for Christ now. We all know the people willing to die for Islam.
Does not make either of them any more real because of it.
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Peter walked with Jesus of Nazareth. Muslims are more than willing to kill for their faith than die for it. Of course you have suicide bombers in Islam. That along with the life of Mohammed speaks volumes. Christ says choose. Mohammed says submit.
As stated believe what you wish. I will do likewise.
Be well.
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Multiple "ways" cancel every way by default, in my opinion.
People born on a isolated island would have no concept of our gods. They would create their own.
The only universal human trait is the fear of oblivion.
There is no canceling out. There are many paths to Rome, some are quicker, some are not. Some are dead ends, and some are the same. And then some lead you to others.
In order for people to be born on an isolated island, their parents had to come from somewhere.
And, if people are isolated, they would probably come up with their own Gods.
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There is no canceling out. There are many paths to Rome, some are quicker, some are not. Some are dead ends, and some are the same. And then some lead you to others.
In order for people to be born on an isolated island, their parents had to come from somewhere.
And, if people are isolated, they would probably come up with their own Gods.
I just said that Parker ???
I just dont understand how multiple religions supposedly hold the only key to paradise/heaven etc..
That just sounds stupid to me right off of the bat.
I feel sorry for those sad sacks that had to carve all of those stone heads on Easter Island. I bet they didnt know about Christ.
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The cross is a pagan symbol.
Christianity is also a religion that borrows off of many older ones.
The use of the cross as a religious symbol in pre-Christian times, and among non-Christian peoples, may probably be regarded as almost universal, and in very many cases it was connected with some form of nature worship."
(The Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th edition, 1910, volume 7, page 506)
When the Council of Nicea took place, the Emperor Constantine
- Declared the Roman Sun-day to be the Christian Sabbath.
- Adopted the traditional birthday of the Sun-god, and the twenty-fifth of December, as the birthday of Jesus;
- Borrowed the emblem of the Sun-god, the cross of light, to be the emblem of Christianity;
- And, although the statue of Jesus replaced the idol of the Sun-god, decided to incorporate all the ceremonies which were performed at the Sub-gods birthday celebrations into their own ceremonies.
“The Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun.”
- Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason
The scholar Tom Harper states:
“The divine teacher is called, is tested by the “adversary”, gathers disciples, heals the sick, preaches the Good News about God’s kingdom, finally runs afoul of his bitter enemies, suffers, dies, and is resurrected after three days. This is the total pattern of the sun god in all the ancient dramas”. (The Pagan Christ, p. 145)
It is all made up. Hope this helps.
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It is all made up. Hope this helps.
The cliff notes version :D
And it does help.
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I just said that Parker ???
I just dont understand how multiple religions supposedly hold the only key to paradise/heaven etc..
That just sounds stupid to me right off of the bat.
I feel sorry for those sad sacks that had to carve all of those stone heads on Easter Island. I bet they didnt know about Christ.
And logic says they would not be held accountable on that note but rather on the way they lived their lives. If we who are ignorant men can easily discern between right and wrong, good and evil, just and unjust, how much more so the One who created us?
And I know I have told you this before but no one, not a one of us knows what awaits us at our final breath. Only the dead know and they're not talking. I have no idea if my faith is right for all but I do know that it is right for me. I will not make you wear the same shoes as I nor will I demand that you even wear shoes.
What is so difficult to fathom here? The answer -
Nothing.
As always, be well.
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I just said that Parker ???
I just dont understand how multiple religions supposedly hold the only key to paradise/heaven etc..
That just sounds stupid to me right off of the bat.
I feel sorry for those sad sacks that had to carve all of those stone heads on Easter Island. I bet they didnt know about Christ.
They live on Easter Island. Easter Island. And they never heard of Jesus. Fine, if that's their story.
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And logic says they would not be held accountable on that note but rather on the way they lived their lives. If we who are ignorant men can easily discern between right and wrong, good and evil, just and unjust, how much more so the One who created us?
And I know I have told you this before but no one, not a one of us knows what awaits us at our final breath. Only the dead know and they're not talking. I have no idea if my faith is right for all but I do know that it is right for me. I will not make you wear the same shoes as I nor will I demand that you even wear shoes.
What is so difficult to fathom here? The answer -
Nothing.
As always, be well.
That is a vey good statement. Chiro Flex should get that tattooed on his other arm.
But you are right, I can absolutely believe in that statement without being religious. My theory, is that an all-powerfull, all-seeing, and all-knowing god would appreciate and understand my questioning mind.
If I am to be judged by an "higher-power" upon death, I will be judged on how I lived my life, not by passing a basket at church or reading 2,000+ year old rehashings of paganism.
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They live on Easter Island. Easter Island. And they never heard of Jesus. Fine, if that's their story.
Hmmm.......I never even thought of the correlation until now. How did the island get it's name?
Maybe we are slowly unlocking the secrets of the universe in this thread? :o
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religions have been invented to deal with absurdity, randomness and the fear of death. Basically we invented, built, meaning. The only and ultimate truth is that before being religious, we re all animals fighting for limited ressources and partners of reproduction.
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The cross is a pagan symbol.
Christianity is also a religion that borrows off of many older ones.
The use of the cross as a religious symbol in pre-Christian times, and among non-Christian peoples, may probably be regarded as almost universal, and in very many cases it was connected with some form of nature worship."
(The Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th edition, 1910, volume 7, page 506)
When the Council of Nicea took place, the Emperor Constantine
- Declared the Roman Sun-day to be the Christian Sabbath.
- Adopted the traditional birthday of the Sun-god, and the twenty-fifth of December, as the birthday of Jesus;
- Borrowed the emblem of the Sun-god, the cross of light, to be the emblem of Christianity;
- And, although the statue of Jesus replaced the idol of the Sun-god, decided to incorporate all the ceremonies which were performed at the Sub-gods birthday celebrations into their own ceremonies.
“The Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun.”
- Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason
The scholar Tom Harper states:
“The divine teacher is called, is tested by the “adversary”, gathers disciples, heals the sick, preaches the Good News about God’s kingdom, finally runs afoul of his bitter enemies, suffers, dies, and is resurrected after three days. This is the total pattern of the sun god in all the ancient dramas”. (The Pagan Christ, p. 145)
Christianity didn't borrow anything, it was how Jesus was murdered so that is why it is represented in Christianity. If Jesus was killed by having a rock tied around him and thrown in water, then that's the symbol that Christian people would wear around their necks.
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That is a vey good statement. Chiro Flex should get that tattooed on his other arm.
But you are right, I can absolutely believe in that statement without being religious. My theory, is that an all-powerfull, all-seeing, and all-knowing god would appreciate and understand my questioning mind.
If I am to be judged by an "higher-power" upon death, I will be judged on how I lived my life, not by passing a basket at church or reading 2,000+ year old rehashings of paganism.
God needs neither your money nor your worship. The evil that men do, even when they claim to do it in the name of God is done for their own gain. I put no stock in religion nor man. I have my faith (such as it is) and with that faith comes hope.
Look at what Jesus of Nazareth did and taught. I find no fault in any of it.
I am done for now, be well sir.
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Idk. They shoulda called it Big Assed Carved Stone Heads Island. Seems like their primary industry.
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Christianity didn't borrow anything, it was how Jesus was murdered so that is why it is represented in Christianity. If Jesus was killed by having a rock tied around him and thrown in water, then that's the symbol that Christian people would wear around their necks.
Its not just about the cross (which is pagan in origin)
Read the link.
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Christianity/Catholicism has the most backward logic ever.
Murder 100 children, but repent, you go to heaven.
Do good your whole life, but you're not a believer, go to hell.
Any God that would rather sit next to a child murder because he repented, as opposed to a nonbeliever who never did harm, is an asshole.
And the whole idea, "Well, the murderer repented and was truly saved" save it. Person is still a despicable scumbag.
Very sound logic on God's part.
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Christianity didn't borrow anything, it was how Jesus was murdered so that is why it is represented in Christianity. If Jesus was killed by having a rock tied around him and thrown in water, then that's the symbol that Christian people would wear around their necks.
Well said. I rarely wear a cross around my neck preferring instead to hold its meaning within my heart.
I am far from perfect and this is witnessed by my recent failings here and in the real world.
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Lets meet up tomorrow. Sun-day :-*
Sun...........I am disappoint. :(
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Well said. I rarely wear a cross around my neck preferring instead to hold its meaning within my heart.
I am far from perfect and this is witnessed by my recent failings here and in the real world.
I thought god forbode the usage of symbolism?
What is the purpose of the cross then?
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I just said that Parker ???
I just dont understand how multiple religions supposedly hold the only key to paradise/heaven etc..
That just sounds stupid to me right off of the bat.
I feel sorry for those sad sacks that had to carve all of those stone heads on Easter Island. I bet they didnt know about Christ.
Make Make is ancient 'god' of Rapa Nui (Easter Island) ,hips of Make Make carvings at Orongo location, Moai statues, not just heads.
Locals stoned first 2 missionaries :D
Use to be interesting place but gone too commercial, now too many Chileans live there.
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I thought god forbode the usage of symbolism?
What is the purpose of the cross then?
I do
Nope. Idols, yes. I make nothing man made the object of my faith. While I often fail the very center of what I hold true is the message of Jesus of Nazareth. Some don't care for Him but usually I just do what I do as do they. Big deal.
I shall grant you this. If my brother thinks it a sin to eat meat, I may (or may not) eat meat around him. Some have said why would you wear a "murder weapon" (i.e., a cross) around you neck.
I don't consider it such, that's why.
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::) another anti-Christ thread....think I'm done with these for 2014.
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::) another anti-Christ thread....think I'm done with these for 2014.
There are only a few more days left in 2014. May want to extend your leave to half of 2015. :D :D
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There are only a few more days left in 2014. May want to extend your leave to half of 2015. :D :D
;D You have a point there, sir! ;D
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::) another anti-Christ thread....think I'm done with these for 2014.
I know it can be difficult and I also know that I can be a total butthead toward some of these folks some of the time. But...You are a good man.
Do not place your light under the bushel. If you must, extinguish and set it upon the shelf for a while. Rest and when you feel ready, re-light that candle until such time as you again feel the need to step back. There are people here that listen and learn from your observations and while their hearts may not change toward the Christ that does not mean they are not good folk.
Be well.
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SON. Not sun idiot
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Jesus may have been a mushroom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sacred_Mushroom_and_the_Cross
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SON. Not sun idiot
There is a reason I spelled it like that.
Read the link and it will make sense.
This isnt an anti-Jesus thread either.
Its my opinion that I decided to share with a forum.
Forums are meant for discussion, debate, and the spread of information.
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Fantastic thread. 10 pages easy.
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Where is Wiggs Jeezzy gone ;D
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Since I helped answer one of mankind's greatest questions:
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let
horus jesus in - save you he can
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Jesus was a cock-slurping retard.
Hope this helps.
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The evidence that Christianity was in its beginnings firmly rooted in an Egyptian-style, equinoctial mode of thinking still abounds today. The birthday of Jesus Christ was first celebrated by the earliest Church in the spring of the year. But in 345, Pope Julius decreed that the birthday (nobody knew any precise date for it, suggesting again that the entire thing was pure myth) should thenceforth be held on December 25, three days after the “death” of the winter solstice and the same day on which the births of Mithras, Dionysus, the Sol Invictus (unconquerable sun), and several other gods were traditionally celebrated. (Tom Harper, The Pagan Christ, p. 82).
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Jesus was a cock-slurping retard.
Hope this helps.
How childishly pedestrian. How sophomorically innovative. How...Well...How stupid can you get?
I am betting even "stoooopider". Look kid, when you hit rock bottom, just start digging...mmmkay? Have a good night, sweetie! And no, I am not trying to make you look ignorant.
You're doing fine all on your own.
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How childishly pedestrian. How sophomorically innovative. How...Well...How stupid can you get?
I am betting even "stoooopider". Look kid, when you hit rock bottom, just start digging...mmmkay? Have a good night, sweetie! And no, I am not trying to make you look ignorant.
You're doing fine all on your own.
Your shitter must be real hurt with a response like that.
Oh, yeah ... Jesus was a cock weasel.
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Your shitter must be real hurt with a response like that.
Oh, yeah ... Jesus was a cock weasel.
Look kid, I cannot help that you are a linguistic simian and a cultural philistine. Oh yeah...That means you have a chimp like command of language and a total lack of class. I bet chicks really dig you, ace. Please, I adjure you (again, that means I urge or even beg you) to cease and desist your public display of stooooopidity.
Or not.
I have better things to do that to try and potty train someone like you. No need to change your mind as the stench of your mental diaper would be as odious as your lame attempts to insult the Christ are.
Goodnight, sweetie.
Oh, I nearly forgot to mention that I agree with you on other subjects, just not this one. Regardless, be well young man.
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religions have been invented to deal with absurdity, randomness and the fear of death. Basically we invented, built, meaning. The only and ultimate truth is that before being religious, we re all animals fighting for limited ressources and partners of reproduction.
I have had zero interest of reproduction my entire life. So has my wife. Evolutionary, there are those of us who are stronger in other ways. Reproduction was and is certainly not the goal for everyone, especially in our early days and even up to relatively modern times where the women died in childbirth the majority of the time. You need to rethink this myth.
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I have had zero interest of reproduction my entire life. So has my wife. Evolutionary, there are those of us who are stronger in other ways. Reproduction was and is certainly not the goal for everyone, especially in our early days and even up to relatively modern times where the women died in childbirth the majority of the time. You need to rethink this myth.
True. One of my living brothers and his wife have but one child and the other (and his wife) have chosen not to have any. Both couples are happy. My sister has two children. She's not as happy as our brothers but that has nothing to do with her kids.
Speaking of happy...Dinner time!
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True. One of my living brothers and his wife have but one child and the other (and his wife) have chosen not to have any. Both couples are happy. My sister has two children. She's not as happy as our brothers but that has nothing to do with her kids.
Speaking of happy...Dinner time!
Same here! Steak and loaded potatoes with some Ginger Molasses Cookies from The Model Bakery that I made earlier. Just got finished doing German Volume Training with Squats. Brutal, seeing nothing but stars and floaters.
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Same here! Steak and loaded potatoes with some Ginger Molasses Cookies from The Model Bakery that I made earlier. Just got finished doing German Volume Training with Squats. Brutal, seeing nothing but stars and floaters.
Sweet! Much better than my dinner of chicken, rice, vegetables and (!) freshly baked bread. Still, I am enjoying it and it does get the job done. I wonder if the pooch wants some? ;D
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Who is 'gods' old man ???
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religions have been invented to deal with absurdity, randomness and the fear of death. Basically we invented, built, meaning. The only and ultimate truth is that before being religious, we re all animals fighting for limited ressources and partners of reproduction.
I doubt that. Organized religions were invented and sustained by interested parties for money and other gains, like power and control. Fabricated bullshit extraordinaire. Once established it is fairly easy to keep the nonsense going.
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There are only a few more days left in 2014. May want to extend your leave to half of 2015. :D :D
Eh, it'll carryover into a bit of 2015 LOL ;D.
Give the board a chance to really dig in and sully the name of the Son of God!
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I know it can be difficult and I also know that I can be a total butthead toward some of these folks some of the time. But...You are a good man.
Do not place your light under the bushel. If you must, extinguish and set it upon the shelf for a while. Rest and when you feel ready, re-light that candle until such time as you again feel the need to step back. There are people here that listen and learn from your observations and while their hearts may not change toward the Christ that does not mean they are not good folk.
Be well.
;)
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Eh, it'll carryover into a bit of 2015 LOL ;D.
Give the board a chance to really dig in and sully the name of the Son of God!
Did you take a look at the link? If so, what were your impressions?
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Anyone wishing to read more about this, I suggest this website:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/cross_pagan_origins.htm (http://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/cross_pagan_origins.htm)
It's very informative.
It's always good to keep an open mind. I find the sun god theory very believable, when it comes to explaining the origins of christianity.
The basic outlines were used by many cultures and have evolved different characteristics over time and cultural backgrounds.
This concept seems so clear to me.
Scholarly response to the Jesus Myth Hypothesis:
"There are those who argue that Jesus is a figment of the Church's imagination, that there never was a Jesus at all. I have to say that I do not know any respectable critical scholar who says that any more."
Burridge, R & Gould, G, Jesus Now and Then, Wm. B. Eerdmans, 2004, p.34.
The classical historian Michael Grant writes:
"To sum up, modern critical methods fail to support the Christ myth theory. It has 'again and again been answered and annihilated by first rank scholars.' In recent years, 'no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non historicity of Jesus' or at any rate very few, and they have not succeeded in disposing of the much stronger, indeed very abundant, evidence to the contrary."
Michael Grant does not see the similarities between Christianity and pagan religions to be significant. Grant states that "Judaism was a milieu to which doctrines of the deaths and rebirths, of mythical gods seemed so entirely foreign that the emergence of such a fabrication from its midst is very hard to credit."
Grant, Michael (1995). Jesus: An Historian's Review of the Gospels. Scribner, 199. ISBN 978-0684818672 .
R.T. France points out that Christianity was actively opposed by both the Roman Empire and the Jewish authorities, and would have been utterly discredited if Jesus had been shown as a non-historical figure. He argues that there is evidence in Pliny, Josephus and other sources of the Roman and Jewish approaches at the time, and none of them involved this suggestion.
In response to Jesus-myth proponents who argue the lack of early non-Christian sources, or question their authenticity, R. T. France counters that "even the great histories of Tacitus have survived in only two manuscripts, which together contain scarcely half of what he is believed to have written, the rest is lost" and that the life of Jesus, from a Roman point of view, was not a major
event.
R.T France disagrees with the notion that the Apostle Paul did not speak of Jesus as a physical being. He argues that arguments from silence are unreliable and that there are several references to historical facts about Jesus's life in Paul's letters, such as that Jesus "who as to his earthly life was a descendant of David" (Romans 1:3, TNIV).
France, RT (1986). Evidence for Jesus (Jesus Library). Trafalgar Square Publishing, 19-20. ISBN 0340381728.
Supporting a historical Jesus
Bovon, François (2006). The Last Days of Jesus, trans. Kristin Hennessy; Louisville: Westminster, John Knox. ISBN 0664230075.
Burridge, Richard A. (2006). Four Gospels, One Jesus? A Symbolic Reading, 2nd edn., Grand Rapids:Eerdmans. ISBN 0802829805 .
Charlesworth, James H. (ed.) (2006). Jesus and Archaeology. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans. ISBN 080284880X.
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I never claimed that Jesus (the man) never existed.
In my opinion, it is more of a Christ myth than a Jesus one.
The man may have existed, but the tales, legends, and myths surrounding Christ after death (including the bible) borrow heavily from the pagan religions that came before it.
Frankly, it just makes the most sense to me.
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The man may have existed, but the tales, legends, and myths surrounding Christ after death (including the bible) borrow heavily from the pagan religions that came before it.
And what are these "tales, legends, and myths"? Please do list them and then list where anything about Jesus Christ was borrowed "heavily" from pagan religions that came "before it." Please substantiate your bold claims!
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And what are these "tales, legends, and myths"? Please do list them and then list where anything about Jesus Christ was borrowed "heavily" from pagan religions that came "before it." Please substantiate your bold claims!
Please read this link. It explains it all in great detail.
http://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/cross_pagan_origins.htm (http://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/cross_pagan_origins.htm)
Again, I am not trying to say my views or right, nor am I trying to denounce Christianity to believers. I am merely showing some information on a different viewpoint.
I do believe that the info found in the link provided, makes more sense to me, rather then taking the bible/Christianity at face value.
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Please read this link. It explains it all in great detail.
http://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/cross_pagan_origins.htm (http://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/cross_pagan_origins.htm)
Again, I am not trying to say my views or right, nor am I trying to denounce Christianity to believers. I am merely showing some information on a different viewpoint.
I do believe that the info found in the link provided, makes more sense to me, rather then taking the bible/Christianity at face value.
Read the link? Don't you have a mind of your own, an opinion of your own?
I am familiar with the alleged "Cross Pagan Origins" of Jesus Christ or "Jesus Myth Hypothesis." Ironically, these claims are inventions themselves with nothing to back them up. The similarities are invented.
For example: Horus(the sun of god) and Jesus were both born on December 25th, is one of the alleged similarities.
Guess what: Neither Horus nor Jesus were born on December 25th.
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Read the link? Don't you have a mind of your own, an opinion of your own?
I am familiar with the alleged "Cross Pagan Origins" of Jesus Christ or "Jesus Myth Hypothesis." Ironically, these claims are inventions themselves with nothing to back them up. The similarities are invented.
For example: Horus(the sun of god) and Jesus were both born on December 25th, is one of the alleged similarities.
Guess what: Neither Horus nor Jesus were born on December 25th.
There is nothing to back anything up. You either believe or you dont.
This is what stands out to me:
The cross was a sacred symbol well before Jesus
Easter has pagan roots
Jesus was not born on Christmas, and Christmas also has pagan roots
There have been many gods over the ages that have died and have been resurrected.
The stories in the bible were originally meant to be taken literally, but now even many devout Christians claim otherwise.
I make no distinction between Christ, Egyptian gods, Greek gods, or any other gods or religions in world history.
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There is nothing to back anything up. You either believe or you dont.
This is what stands out to me:
The cross was a sacred symbol well before Jesus
Easter has pagan roots
Jesus was not born on Christmas, and Christmas also has pagan roots
There have been many gods over the ages that have died and have been resurrected.
The stories in the bible were originally meant to be taken literally, but now even many devout Christians claim otherwise.
I make no distinction between Christ, Egyptian gods, Greek gods, or any other gods or religions in world history.
So according to you, to say that Jesus Christ died is plagiarism because many people have died too. ::)
I suppose next you'll say that everything about Kennedy was plagiarized from Lincoln.
I mean...come on...look:
Both presidents were elected to the presidency in '60.
Both presidents were elected to the House of Representatives in '46.
Both were runners-up for the party's nomination for vice-president in '56.
Both assassins were born in '39.
Both successors were Southern Democrats named Johnson born in '08.
Both presidents were concerned with the problems of American blacks and made their view strongly known in '63. Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation in 1862, which became law in 1863. In 1963, Kennedy presented his reports to Congress on Civil Rights, and the same year was the famous March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom.
Both presidents were shot in the head.
Both presidents were shot on a Friday.
Lincoln was shot at Ford's Theatre. Kennedy was shot in a Ford car; a Lincoln limousine.
Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy who told him not to go to the theatre. Kennedy had a secretary
named Evelyn Lincoln (whose husband Harold's nickname was Abe), and she warned him not to go to Dallas.
Both Oswald and Booth were assassinated before they could be put on trial.
Lincoln and Kennedy each have 7 letters.
John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald each have 15 letters.
There are 6 letters in each Johnson's first name.
Booth shot Lincoln in a theater and hid in a warehouse, while Oswald shot Kennedy in a warehouse and hid in a theater.
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So according to you, to say that Jesus Christ died is plagiarism because many people have died too. ::)
I suppose next you'll say that everything about Kennedy was plagiarized from Lincoln.
I mean...come on...look:
Both presidents were elected to the presidency in '60.
Both presidents were elected to the House of Representatives in '46.
Both were runners-up for the party's nomination for vice-president in '56.
Both assassins were born in '39.
Both successors were Southern Democrats named Johnson born in '08.
Both presidents were concerned with the problems of American blacks and made their view strongly known in '63. Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation in 1862, which became law in 1863. In 1963, Kennedy presented his reports to Congress on Civil Rights, and the same year was the famous March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom.
Both presidents were shot in the head.
Both presidents were shot on a Friday.
Lincoln was shot at Ford's Theatre. Kennedy was shot in a Ford car; a Lincoln limousine.
Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy who told him not to go to the theatre. Kennedy had a secretary
named Evelyn Lincoln (whose husband Harold's nickname was Abe), and she warned him not to go to Dallas.
Both Oswald and Booth were assassinated before they could be put on trial.
Lincoln and Kennedy each have 7 letters.
John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald each have 15 letters.
There are 6 letters in each Johnson's first name.
Booth shot Lincoln in a theater and hid in a warehouse, while Oswald shot Kennedy in a warehouse and hid in a theater.
You win. I will be a Christian from this day forward.
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You win. I will be a Christian from this day forward.
You were religious at one time. Non-Religious people do NOT get tattoos of praying angels on their chest.
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You were religious at one time. Non-Religious people do NOT get tattoos of praying angels on their chest.
I dont associate prayer with religion.
I can wish for the health and happiness of my friends and family, without having a denomination.
Since I say a prayer every night, that tattoo has meaning for me.
See loco, that is called having a mind of my own.
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I would really like to get some Christian views on this.
I hope it's not just "The I have faith" canned response.
I'm not Christian or any other organized religion. With all due respect, I don't cum on getbig for serious debate on religion LOL
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I'm not Christian or any other organized religion. With all due respect, I don't cum on getbig for serious debate on religion LOL
You would have made a great Mormon.
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I dont associate prayer with religion.
I can wish for the health and happiness of my friends and family, without having a denomination.
Since I say a prayer every night, that tattoo has meaning for me.
See loco, that is called having a mind of my own.
To whom do you pray? Do you believe in angels?
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To whom do you pray? Do you believe in angels?
I pray to the universe in general.
Basically I am just talking aloud to my conscience.
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I pray to the universe in general.
Basically I am just talking aloud to my conscience.
Do you believe in angels?
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Do you believe in angels?
Winged people that descend from the sky? No.
I also have the grim reaper on one arm, and a dragon on the other.
I do not believe in those either :D
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^^^^^ Jesus ???
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I pray to the universe in general.
Do you believe that the universe listens to your prayers?
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Do you believe that the universe listens to your prayers?
No. I basically do it for myself.
More like a nightly wishful thinking.
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now your giving him what he wants to hear ^^
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I dont associate prayer with religion.
I can wish for the health and happiness of my friends and family, without having a denomination.
Since I say a prayer every night, that tattoo has meaning for me.
See loco, that is called having a mind of my own.
How are those prayers working?
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How are those prayers working?
Prayers dont get answered. Sometimes things happen which coincide with things that people pray for.
Its mere coincidence. God would not answer only certain people's prayers and not others.
I guess I do it more out of habit then anything these days.
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Hugh Jackman interview on what is God, very good, resonate with where he's coming from.
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The entire bible is subject to interpretation. The stories/fables in the bible depicted a way of living a life that was honorable (maybe not the Old Testament bc stories used were pretty barbaric) like a learning tool used to encourage a certain way of life and help explain things without scientific discoveries.
The Council of Nicaea is thought to have been more a meeting of minds to clear up Jesus's relationship to God. Some felt Jesus was not "One" with God the Father and that he was a type of Prophet, others believed Jesus and God were both of one entity. Either way the fact that Scholors and Bishops were debating important facets of Christianity even back then provides evidence that the interpretation of the bible is subjective and certainly can not be taken as fact.
Do you honestly believe Jonah was in a giant fish for three days and lived? Virgin birth etc. is there any other evidence that Jesus was indeed crucified, stabbed with a lance and rose from the dead 3 days later other than in the Bible? What evidence is there besides the fact that his body wasn't in the tomb? is the next logical step to assume he rose from the dead? How would that story play out today? I'm a mortician, I have a new body on my table and he's been confirmed as dead. I go home for the weekend and when I get back the body is gone, can I legitimately say the deceased came back to life and just left?
Get some objective research on The Gnostic Gospels also it doesn't coencide with Christianities plight.
Also the translation of the bible can't even be verified to be completely accurate, how can it be the only foundation of your religion.
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Sounds like a dead end job.
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The entire bible is subject to interpretation. The stories/fables in the bible depicted a way of living a life that was honorable (maybe not the Old Testament bc stories used were pretty barbaric) like a learning tool used to encourage a certain way of life and help explain things without scientific discoveries.
The Council of Nicaea is thought to have been more a meeting of minds to clear up Jesus's relationship to God. Some felt Jesus was not "One" with God the Father and that he was a type of Prophet, others believed Jesus and God were both of one entity. Either way the fact that Scholors and Bishops were debating important facets of Christianity even back then provides evidence that the interpretation of the bible is subjective and certainly can not be taken as fact.
Do you honestly believe Jonah was in a giant fish for three days and lived? Virgin birth etc. is there any other evidence that Jesus was indeed crucified, stabbed with a lance and rose from the dead 3 days later other than in the Bible? What evidence is there besides the fact that his body wasn't in the tomb? is the next logical step to assume he rose from the dead? How would that story play out today? I'm a mortician, I have a new body on my table and he's been confirmed as dead. I go home for the weekend and when I get back the body is gone, can I legitimately say the deceased came back to life and just left?
Get some objective research on The Gnostic Gospels also it doesn't coencide with Christianities plight.
Also the translation of the bible can't even be verified to be completely accurate, how can it be the only foundation of your religion.
Indeed.
Question: as a mortician have you a concept of non existence, complete termination of life with the death of the body? Why else would you call yourself Atheist? Dealing with dead bodies would surely make ones mind dwell on such things.
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I don't see how anyone intelligent could believe in 'The Force' or whatever religion preaches.
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I dont see how anyone intelligent could not directly intuit and experience it. Indeed my understanding of intelligence is the degree to which one is.
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The degree to which one is what?
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aware of a vaster intelligence and power than the limited human intellect and reason.
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I'm not sure that admitting one's own relative ignorance, in the Socratic mould - as I am happy to do - is to admit there is a god/force/midi-chlorians etc.
For starters, which god is the real god? Clearly inventing a god is a pattern of human behaviour the world over. However, by definition they can't all be real.
Furthermore, to assume the higher power our country raises us to believe in is the one true "real" God, is the opposite of enlightenment IMO. It is simply accepting what we're told from a young age. A la father Christmas.
Historically poverty, low life expectancy and all manner of terrible occurrences has required individuals to believe in something "more". However, like the proverbial child realising the impossibility of one man delivering all the presents in one night, so too must the brave and non-dependant mind allow for the possibility that one's own relative ignorance does not automatically mean there is necessarily a God.
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the true use of the words god and enlightenment make them expressions of the same thing. Did you not listen to the interview with Hugh Jackman?
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Its that time of year again, where Christians celebrate a pagan holiday that actually has nothing to do with the birth of Jesus :D
I guess its fitting, considering that Christianity is a largely borrowed religion to begin with.
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From Wiki:
Saturnalia was an ancient Roman festival in honour of the deity Saturn, held on 17 December of the Julian calendar and later expanded with festivities through to 23 December. The holiday was celebrated with a sacrifice at the Temple of Saturn, in the Roman Forum, and a public banquet, followed by private gift-giving, continual partying, and a carnival atmosphere that overturned Roman social norms: gambling was permitted, and masters provided table service for their slaves.[1] The poet Catullus called it "the best of days".[2]
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From Wiki:
Saturnalia was an ancient Roman festival in honour of the deity Saturn, held on 17 December of the Julian calendar and later expanded with festivities through to 23 December. The holiday was celebrated with a sacrifice at the Temple of Saturn, in the Roman Forum, and a public banquet, followed by private gift-giving, continual partying, and a carnival atmosphere that overturned Roman social norms: gambling was permitted, and masters provided table service for their slaves.[1] The poet Catullus called it "the best of days".[2]
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Lol!!!! It is actually quite the opposite. In essence, I celebrate "Christmas" three times a year. I go to my mom's side, my dad's side, and then we have our own "immediate family Christmas". Do I enjoy getting together with loved ones? Absolutely.
Does any of this have to do with the birth of Christ? Not at all.
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Lol!!!! It is actually quite the opposite. In essence, I celebrate "Christmas" three times a year. I go to my mom's side, my dad's side, and then we have our own "immediate family Christmas". Do I enjoy getting together with loved ones? Absolutely.
Does any of this have to do with the birth of Christ? Not at all.
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What about your girlfriends side of the family?
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What about your girlfriends side of the family?
They blow.
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They blow.
that makes two of you ;D
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Jesus who? I like celebrating our pagan roots.
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Don't spoil the event. Don't screw up all those profits which come from folks buying gifts.
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I actually think that God would be super pissed at how half of the world treats the birth and resurrection of his son, Jesus.
Santa Claus? The Easter Bunny? You couldn't make this shit up if you tried. Actually, it seems that they did.
Ask 100 people about the first thing that pops into their heads, when you talk about Christmas and Easter. I guarantee that Jesus is somewhere on the bottom of that list :-\ A bunny rabbit is more relevant these days.
I talked to a young Jehovah Witness a few weeks back (good guy) and his beliefs actually made some sense. He does not celebrate any holidays. When I brought up the fact that Christmas, Easter, and Halloween have Pagan origins, his eyes lit up. He completely agreed with me on that aspect.
How can a devout Christian celebrate things that are so blatantly wrong to the faith? You are absolutely worshipping false idols when you openly celebrate Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
Idiots.
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Notice Uncle Junior in the background......
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Read the link if you want. I have always had an interest in religion (without being religious) and I find this hard to ignore.
I am not saying what to believe in, or that this unlocks the secret to anything.
I just find this theory far more plausible than anything in the bible actually happening.
I believe Christianity is a rehash at its core.
Bill Maher exposed or publicized this very fact in his 2008 movie Religulous. Highly recommend the movie.
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I actually think that God would be super pissed at how half of the world treats the birth and resurrection of his son, Jesus.
Santa Claus? The Easter Bunny? You couldn't make this shit up if you tried. Actually, it seems that they did.
Ask 100 people about the first thing that pops into their heads, when you talk about Christmas and Easter. I guarantee that Jesus is somewhere on the bottom of that list :-\ A bunny rabbit is more relevant these days.
I talked to a young Jehovah Witness a few weeks back (good guy) and his beliefs actually made some sense. He does not celebrate any holidays. When I brought up the fact that Christmas, Easter, and Halloween have Pagan origins, his eyes lit up. He completely agreed with me on that aspect.
How can a devout Christian celebrate things that are so blatantly wrong to the faith? You are absolutely worshipping false idols when you openly celebrate Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny claim Jesus as your savior.
Idiots.
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Notice Uncle Junior in the background......
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religions have been invented to deal with absurdity, randomness and the fear of death. Basically we invented, built, meaning. The only and ultimate truth is that before being religious, we re all animals fighting for limited ressources and partners of reproduction.
This.
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I wonder why MOS has remained silent?
MOS, as a devout Christian, Why do you celebrate holidays?
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I wonder why MOS has remained silent?
MOS, as a devout Christian, Why do you celebrate holidays?
lol your desperation for attention knows no bounds
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lol your desperation for attention knows no bounds
Desperation? Nah, I like to seek knowledge. Although I may disagree with his views, I respect MOS.
A good man, is good. Race, beliefs, and sexual orientation play no part in this rat race.
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Desperation? Nah, I like to seek knowledge. Although I may disagree with his views, I respect MOS.
A good man, is good. Race, beliefs, and sexual orientation play no part in this rat race.
hes a fucking idiot who bonked his head and magically saw a pretend man in the sky
I hope he gets malaria that retard fuck
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hes a fucking idiot who bonked his head and magically saw a pretend man in the sky
I hope he gets malaria that retard fuck
Why do you wish destruction/death upon people?
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Why do you wish destruction/death upon people?
why do I have to screw this into peoples heads over and over?
scha·den·freu·de
ˈSHädənˌfroidə/Submit
noun
pleasure derived by someone from another person's misfortune.
this isnt some made up shit. I genuinely get off by seeing humans suffer/be miserable. It makes me laugh
notice I say humans because I fucking hate when animals even get a stubbed toe, I never wanna see animals suffer
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why do I have to screw this into peoples heads over and over?
scha·den·freu·de
ˈSHädənˌfroidə/Submit
noun
pleasure derived by someone from another person's misfortune.
this isnt some made up shit. I genuinely get off by seeing humans suffer/be miserable. It makes me laugh
notice I say humans because I fucking hate when animals even get a stubbed toe, I never wanna see animals suffer
It's just an excuse to be an asshole.
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It's just an excuse to be an asshole.
lol oh brother theres wrong and then theres wrong
Im an asshole, I dont need any excuses.
HOWEVER, I GENUINELY get pleasure and entertainment from seeing people suffer. For example, if you were, lets say, on fire, I would laugh my ass off in pure joy because 1. I like seeing stuff like that, and 2. Its someone high high up on my hate list. So all in all a win win for me
so no, its not an excuse to be an asshole, its a real thing.
and Im an asshole with 23 and a half years no alcohol, now go be an alcoholic attention seeking loser
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Every big religion is tied to the Occult. They're all pissing on you and telling you its rain.
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lol oh brother theres wrong and then theres wrong
Im an asshole, I dont need any excuses.
HOWEVER, I GENUINELY get pleasure and entertainment from seeing people suffer. For example, if you were, lets say, on fire, I would laugh my ass off in pure joy because 1. I like seeing stuff like that, and 2. Its someone high high up on my hate list. So all in all a win win for me
so no, its not an excuse to be an asshole, its a real thing.
and Im an asshole with 23 and a half years no alcohol, now go be an alcoholic attention seeking loser
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Shizzo is correct.
I've read a lot of books about the late Roman Empire.
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It appears that something got lost "in translation". Sounds like European names to me.
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kinda wild how youve fallen to pathetic low iq shizzo levels of memes and vids for responses hey?
absolutely pathetic
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kinda wild how youve fallen to pathetic low iq shizzo levels of memes and vids for responses hey?
absolutely pathetic
Not really. MoS is a good man.
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Not really. MoS is a good man.
not really
hes a worthless puke who listens to imaginary people in the sky
hes arrogant, self centered and a borderline retard
I would genuinely rank him top 3 on this board that I would piss on their grave, heres hoping he dies a gruesome death soon
hmmmm who are the other 2 in top 3
shizzo obviously
i gotta think of the other
pffffft I dont have to think------Wiggs ,easy choice
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not really
hes a worthless puke who listens to imaginary people in the sky
hes arrogant, self centered and a borderline retard
I would genuinely rank him top 3 on this board that I would piss on their grave, heres hoping he dies a gruesome death soon
hmmmm who are the other 2 in top 3
shizzo obviously
i gotta think of the other
Geeze louise...Do you finger your mother with the hand that typed that stuff? If you want to try and make fun of someone, try me. MoS is a good man. Better than me and a great many others here. People just get weary of the same old crud. You don't have to believe to be good and in the end, I leave final judgment to God. But from your words quoted above you sound like what you accuse MoS of being. Pathetic.
I am trying to hold onto my faith but if I have to loosen my grip a little to virtually bitch-slap you back a week or so to give you a few days to think this over, I will do so. Oh wait!
I'm old and its nigh on time for sleep. I will try to remember to further insult you sometime tomorrow after I get done with shuffle board. Think hard about this, little one. Do your really want to be schooled by a crippled old guy? Personally I think I'm wasting my time as you're just some ass-puppet's falter-ego here.
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Geeze louise...Do you finger your mother with the hand that typed that stuff? If you want to try and make fun of someone, try me. MoS is a good man. Better than me and a great many others here. People just get weary of the same old crud. You don't have to believe to be good and in the end, I leave final judgment to God. But from your words quoted above you sound like what you accuse MoS of being. Pathetic.
I am trying to hold onto my faith but if I have to loosen my grip a little to virtually bitch-slap you back a week or so to give you a few days to think this over, I will do so. Oh wait!
I'm old and its nigh on time for sleep. I will try to remember to further insult you sometime tomorrow after I get done with shuffle board. Think hard about this, little one. Do your really want to be schooled by a crippled old guy? Personally I think I'm wasting my time as you're just some ass-puppet's falter-ego here.
lol that you dont know who I am--Im avesher--Josh
first of all, there is no God. So enjoy that twisted little imaginary friend fantasy
second--MOS is a POS. Hes not good at all, he just hides behind the same imaginary pie in the sky you do. He is a dimwitted moron who tries to play intelligent but only is able to explain things via the stupidity that has ruined our world called religion.
Listen you twat. There is no god, no religion, no nothing. I could go into a church and proclaim I am Satan, punch a woman in the face, pour gas on a human and try to light them on fire and try to throw someone out a 2 story window, and in the end you and I will both suffer the same fate living or when we die. Its all the same, and I said those things cause Ive done them. And here I am same as you, posting on getbig. And when we die we both will be worm food. So fuck off god boy, we are all the same air breathing shitting and pissing pieces of trash
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lol that you dont know who I am--Im avesher--Josh
first of all, there is no God. So enjoy that twisted little imaginary friend fantasy
second--MOS is a POS. Hes not good at all, he just hides behind the same imaginary pie in the sky you do. He is a dimwitted moron who tries to play intelligent but only is able to explain things via the stupidity that has ruined our world called religion.
Listen you twat. There is no god, no religion, no nothing. I could go into a church and proclaim I am Satan, punch a woman in the face, pour gas on a human and try to light them on fire and try to throw someone out a 2 story window, and in the end you and I will both suffer the same fate living or when we die. Its all the same, and I said those things cause Ive done them. And here I am same as you, posting on getbig. And when we die we both will be worm food. So fuck off god boy, we are all the same air breathing shitting and pissing pieces of trash
You really are stupid, aren't you. It's not an act, is it? I'm pretty certain you don't have to worry about worms eating you.
Dung Beetles on the other hand...
You do realize you're in over your head, right? Goodnight precious.
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You really are stupid, aren't you. It's not an act, is it? I'm pretty certain you don't have to worry about worms eating you.
Dung Beetles on the other hand...
You do realize you're in over your head, right? Goodnight precious.
yes Im a moron, 2 university degrees, Im dumb as a post
its not a case of you are in over your head, its a case of you are too stupid to realize there is no god and to much of a bitch to speak the truth. Instead you live in a world of being a coward cause you are scared your imaginary sky friend wont be nice to you when you die.
Also, you fall into the category of fake religious people anyways. No one with some stupid faith would say the shit you do to another human no matter how foul the other person (being me) is. Just another hypocrite in life. At least I speak the truth.
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yes Im a moron, 2 university degrees, Im dumb as a post
its not a case of you are in over your head, its a case of you are too stupid to realize there is no god and to much of a bitch to speak the truth. Instead you live in a world of being a coward cause you are scared your imaginary sky friend wont be nice to you when you die.
Also, you fall into the category of fake religious people anyways. No one with some stupid faith would say the shit you do to another human no matter how foul the other person (being me) is. Just another hypocrite in life. At least I speak the truth.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ....Good lord but you are one insufferable buttwipe. Run along little boy or I shall continue to taunt you. And not, it is not a case of me being in over my head, but you being in over your head. In the shallow end of the gene pool, at that. My faith is difficult to maintain and I freely admit it. Much like you and your ignorance. I can recover but sadly, stupid runs deep in your family. Get used to saying, "Welcome to the Giant Crab. What can I get started for you today?"
I just give you what you ask for. A verbal spanking. For the more physical kind go see your mom. Again, goodnight precious.
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Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....Good lord but you are one insufferable buttwipe. Run along little boy or I shall continue to taunt you. And not, it is not a case of me being in over my head, but you being in over your head. In the shallow end of the gene pool, at that. My faith is difficult to maintain and I freely admit it. Much like you and your ignorance. I can recover but sadly, stupid runs deep in your family. Get used to saying, "Welcome to the Giant Crab. What can I get started for you today?"
I just give you what you ask for. A verbal spanking. For the more physical kind go see your mom. Again, goodnight precious.
see you do it again
says he is of faith, throws out tons of insults
a real person of faith would not do this. Kill yourself grandpa, you are a useless piece of trash cluttering the earth. Im sure you have been a massive success in life ::) . There was no verbal spanking, just a smattering of hypocrisy from another religiontard. PS, Im 50, not 18 like you may think. I simply DESPISE all religious people of all religions.
but hey, you keep on with the insults, thats super religious of you,...just super
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Hey, I'm just been abiding by the following.....granted I never initiated any convo....only responded LOL.....anything since I've blocked and/or ignored.
Dont msg me again..ur truly the one guy on this site that scares me and creeps me out. Ill stay out of your threads from now on
I think it best that this continue...it's how I've operated since that time and will continue after this note. I don't hate the man at all, but best there be zero contact (per his request).
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Good morning inattentive one. Now go intercourse your mother. Asshole. In the real world I have zero patients with such as you. Here, I merely taunt your kind. I have no religion and you had best hope I don't give up entirely upon my faith as did a dear friend. I would make you sob.
MoS, you have the ability to end this buttwipe's rein of error, so please delete his drive now and ban him. While you're at it, delete the thread and Shizzo, STFU if he does.
All I can say is that Josh's current and continued activity on GB is solely Ron's decision. It's beyond both mod and supermod.
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All I can say is that Josh's current and continued activity on GB is solely Ron's decision. It's beyond both mod and supermod.
Ok thanks. Who is "Josh"?
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He has skipped many a leg day. Would not hit. Also wearing heals, clearly a schmoe.
Las Vegas odds say that 68% of drunk or high get biggers would hit King Louis if he was bent over in those heels and hose.
Fact.
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Not the first time that wood was nailed in this thread.
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Happy Easter!
Seriously, hope everyone had a good day and spent quality time with loved ones.
We shouldn't need make believe holidays for that to happen.
In my humble opinion.
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They live on Easter Island. Easter Island. And they never heard of Jesus. Fine, if that's their story.
This is one of the best jokes in Getbig history. Absolutely fantastic.
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Jesus was a cock-slurping retard.
Hope this helps.
every knee shall bow, burner