Author Topic: Is it sad that Flex Wheeler never won Mr Olympia, and Phil heath is 7x winner?  (Read 9345 times)

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Heath destroys Levrone.
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Thanks for posting the Flex pics. It illustrates perfectly what i thought off when i said he was an oil bag!
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As much as I hate Heath , his back is pretty fucking good

The back of Phil is great. The bouble gutt is horrendous tho.

It would be easy to overlook the centerpiece of a physique to some of the posters here.

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Thanks for posting the Flex pics. It illustrates perfectly what i thought off when i said he was an oil bag!

Not untill the 98' or 99'.
So basicly he started the enhancement the last couple of years of his career. Trying to keep up with Ronnie's size.

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Flex was a better bodybuilder than Philsulin, but the fact that is also a bigger douche bag full of shit arrogant Don't make it sad by any means.   

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Heath and Levrone have a similar structure. One could say that Heath is more similar in structure to Levrone than Flex. Heath is basically Levrone with a better back and better, more consistent conditioning.

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Heath and Levrone have a similar structure. One could say that Heath is more similar in structure to Levrone than Flex. Heath is basically Levrone with a better back and better, more consistent conditioning.

heath gets LevrOWNED in that video, and it's easier to be consistent with your conditioning when you only do the olympia

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Heath and Levrone have a similar structure. One could say that Heath is more similar in structure to Levrone than Flex. Heath is basically Levrone with a better back and better, more consistent conditioning.

Kevin never had a gut unlike Heath.

Being a narrower and smaller bb makes it worse.

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Kevin never had a gut unlike Heath.

Being a narrower and smaller bb makes it worse.
And yes, Kev did have a gut, but it wasn't like Phil's is now. And Phil didn't always have a gut, that took about six years to develop. As far as Kevin's guy, you can see it when Shawn Ray and Kevin were back stage at the 98 Mr. O. It's on Shawn Ray's Final Countdown vid. Shawn and Kevin shake hands. Phil and Kevin had very similar structure and muscle shape. Which is why both look very similar in the hands clasp MM. Both had excellent tricep development, trap development, and shoulder development. Even their chest shape is similar.

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Phil Heath would probably beat every bodybuilder from the past... except for Dorian & Ronnie.

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Phil Heath would probably beat every bodybuilder from the past... except for Dorian & Ronnie.

I highly doubt he would get past Kevin or Flex

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Phil Heath would probably beat every bodybuilder from the past... except for Dorian & Ronnie.

Only true statement in here

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Phil Heath would beat a prime Flex Wheeler

As much as I hate to say it, that's true^^^^^^^^^^^^^. Phil's back and overall conditioning is the deciding factor in my opinion.

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As much as I hate Heath , his back is pretty fucking good



And the pic you posted is from the 2010 Mr. Olympia where I think Phil should have won.

Screenshot I took from the DVD.

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And the pic you posted is from the 2010 Mr. Olympia where I think Phil should have won.

Screenshot I took from the DVD.

People won’t give him any credit cause of the whole “90’s” nostalgia  ::)

Overall i still agree the competition and physiques were better back then

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This is where he beats his opposition.

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Flex, 1993 Ironman Pro.

Phil  ?  :-\

Earl1972

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yep  

doesn't look impressive there

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Royalty

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doesn't look impressive there

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In that rear double bicep pic, compare Heath’s delts to Kai’s Delts. Kai is getting destroyed

Now compare their traps. Kai is no match for Heath.

Look at their forearms. Heath has a look of power that Kai lacks.

I’m not hating on Kai. Just stating facts.

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In that rear double bicep pic, compare Heath’s delts to Kai’s Delts. Kai is getting destroyed

Now compare their traps. Kai is no match for Heath.

Look at their forearms. Heath has a look of power that Kai lacks.

I’m not hating on Kai. Just stating facts.

Your overstating it , Kai is NOT getting destroyed he's more than holding his own in this shot, I would say Phil is edging him out , but not outclassing him at all

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Your overstating it , Kai is NOT getting destroyed he's more than holding his own in this shot, I would say Phil is edging him out , but not outclassing him at all

In my personal opinion, through the trap/delt region on the rear double, Heath has a tremendous edge against Kai

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In that rear double bicep pic, compare Heath’s delts to Kai’s Delts. Kai is getting destroyed

Now compare their traps. Kai is no match for Heath.

Look at their forearms. Heath has a look of power that Kai lacks.

I’m not hating on Kai. Just stating facts.

i was actually comparing it to phil's previous back pic, it's like he's a different bodybuilder he looks so much worse

as for kai, his arms and legs are bigger than phil's

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1998 Levrone Gut Check at 2:00
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