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WASHINGTON – The top Democrat in the U.S. Senate apologized on Saturday for comments he made about Barack Obama's race during the 2008 presidential bid.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada described then-Sen. Barack Obama as "light skinned" and "with no Negro dialect." Obama is the nation's first African-American president.
"I deeply regret using such a poor choice of words. I sincerely apologize for offending any and all Americans, especially African-Americans for my improper comments," Reid said in a statement released after the excerpts were reported on the Web site of The Atlantic.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100109/ap_on_el_se/us_obama_reid
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so we cant say negro now?
hell if black people r sensitive about THIS i strongly urge none of em to ever go to saudi,dubai,india,pakistan....etc
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hahahaha dumbass reid is inished politically. He was already looking at a tough election next time. It might be a good time to retire and move on to something else.
Michael Steele crying about this - he should STFU. He uses token 'street' catch phrases which embarasses himself on a daily basis.
Obama can't do anything but just accept the apology and move on. What's he supposed to do - whine for weeks? If a repub wrote it, and apologized, Obama would also accept the apology and move on (anyone have any examples to the contrary?
MSNBC is tearing reid a new a-hole over this issue.
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What 'the reverend' said about Obama was far worse than saying he didn't speak like a Negro.
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What 'the reverend' said about Obama was far worse than saying he didn't speak like a Negro.
Race is a distraction from real issues.
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What 'the reverend' said about Obama was far worse than saying he didn't speak like a Negro.
but the good rev was black tre, you cant be black and racist its like oil and water ;) think rev wright too...
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'Race is a distraction from real issues. "
Yep yep.
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nobody wants to talk about the real issues especially liberals right now, economy is in the shitter we basically blew 1 trillion with the stimulus, basically gave money away with the tarp, unemployment is horrible and looks to get worse before it gets better.
what real issues would you like to discuss? palin? bush? 9/11?
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Christmas ornaments :)
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Christmas ornaments :)
Christmas ornaments of palin, bush and 9/11?
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nah, recently we had a big discussion here on obama's christmas ornaments.
while we were talking about that, the senate up and snunk and passed health care bill. :-\
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Race is a distraction from real issues.
Exactly, and the elite on both sides have kept people ignorant and foolish by forcing them to focus on non-important issues like race.
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nah, recently we had a big discussion here on obama's christmas ornaments.
while we were talking about that, the senate up and snunk and passed health care bill. :-\
I remember this election where ppl focused on the birth of a baby and whether or not a woman was cheating on her husband and while they were talking about that an uber liberal who had no experience ended up becoming president.
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What's the big deal? Lots of drama queens getting all excited. ::)
This culture of everyone getting offended is killing our society.
Wouldn't bet against some ass clown demanding Reid taking a 'sensitivity' class.
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when determining if a person is qualified to hold VP slot, you have to evaluate her judgment and ability to make decisions.
water breaking at 5 am, and hopping on a plane at 7 pm (as she admits) is very poor judgment. thanking a prank caller for complimenting her porno work = poor judgment. Cheating on husband = poor judgment.
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when determining if a person is qualified to hold VP slot, you have to evaluate her judgment and ability to make decisions.
water breaking at 5 am, and hopping on a plane at 7 pm (as she admits) is very poor judgment. thanking a prank caller for complimenting her porno work = poor judgment. Cheating on husband = poor judgment.
I guess you give a pass for presidential candidates huh?
so sitting in a racist church for 20 yrs=good judgement?
holding a former terrorist as a mentor=good judgement?
voting for an all out ban on hand guns=good judgemnt?
LOL silverline much?
again 240 youve earned the reputation you have on here ::) please dont bitch about it
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fvck no, those things show very poor judgment on obama's part.
again, you defend your turd (palin) by attacking another turd (obama)
Your turd smells 3% better. happy? :)
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What's the big deal? Lots of drama queens getting all excited. ::)
This culture of everyone getting offended is killing our society.
Wouldn't bet against some ass clown demanding Reid taking a 'sensitivity' class.
Our society? NWO ain't here yet.
The reason it's going to be a big deal is because of the hypocrisy issue. It's the exact same thing when Republicans take the moral high ground only to have their immorality exposed.
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when determining if a person is qualified to hold VP slot, you have to evaluate her judgment and ability to make decisions.
And the Senate majority leader isn't worthy of the same scrutiny?
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fvck no, those things show very poor judgment on obama's part.
again, you defend your turd (palin) by attacking another turd (obama)
Your turd smells 3% better. happy? :)
LOL not at all I said during the election many times I didnt like palin as a vp candidate
difference is you campaigned for obama and condemned palin...silverline much? ;)
again 240 youve earned youre rep on here ;)
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Never mind the fact that everyone agrees with Reid.
And had he been black it would've been ok for him to say what he did.
A mixed person who don't speak ebonics have lots of potential to reach many ethnic groups. What's controversial about that?
This just shows how hypocritical our society is.
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WASHINGTON – The top Democrat in the U.S. Senate apologized on Saturday for comments he made about Barack Obama's race during the 2008 presidential bid.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada described then-Sen. Barack Obama as "light skinned" and "with no Negro dialect." Obama is the nation's first African-American president.
"I deeply regret using such a poor choice of words. I sincerely apologize for offending any and all Americans, especially African-Americans for my improper comments," Reid said in a statement released after the excerpts were reported on the Web site of The Atlantic.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100109/ap_on_el_se/us_obama_reid
Jeez, are we in the 19th century? People do realize that one has to adapt to their professional environment. For instance, since I deal mostly with the public, my speech pattern is clear and professional, with lack of slang terms. Even with my friends, many don't think I even curse. In fact, I curse and use more slang on getbig than I do in real life, and probably less than Obama when the cameras are off.
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Never mind the fact that everyone agrees with Reid.
And had he been black it would've been ok for him to say what he did.
A mixed person who don't speak ebonics have lots of potential to reach many ethnic groups. What's controversial about that?
This just shows how hypocritical our society is.
agreed, on all accounts
reid basically gave the man a compliment albeit in a crude manner but a compliment non the less.
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'Offended' is the word that define our times.
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'Offended' is the word that define our times.
hahaha pretty much
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"'Offended' is the word that define our times."
LOL true
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"'Offended' is the word that define our times."
LOL true
wondering who started all that and made it work so well that so many others adopted it. lol... oooh nevermind....
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Honest to God, the next time I hear someone say the republican party are a bunch of racists I'm going to punch them in head and refer them this administration. Because of these racist inept jackasses we"ll never see another black president in our life time.
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This whole Politically Correctness America is stricken with is fucked up. It basically allows the governement, organizations and the media to emasculate individuals and their rights. Anybody should have the right to use any word they want. I don't care if a black person calls me cracker. Just because I am called this does not mean anything to me - I know my own skills. If lions and ants could talk to each other do you think the lion would give a fuck if the ant called him names? I am getting sick and tired of some celebrity or media head having to make excuses and appologies for using some expression that offended another race. It's so fake. So long as you use nice words racism is gone. Yeah right.
Blacks are acting like bitches when they get upset over a white person calling them a guy. Whites are acting like bitches when they get upset over a black person calling them a white boy / cracker. Laugh at them.
We need to move on from this racism issue and concentrate on the greedy pigs fucking this country and the world.
PS I really would like to use the N-WORD freely. However it has been moderated to this word: guy. How pathetic. Just relax it is just a word. guy is derived from the word guy which means black. I had to re-edit my post to include: "guy"
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wondering who started all that and made it work so well that so many others adopted it. lol... oooh nevermind....
That ass wipe Tipper Gore with her campaign for labels for explicit lyrics comes to mind. As well as al sharpton and right wing family values groups.::)
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It's not Harry Reid who should be apologizing
His remarks about Obama, however indelicate, carried an unfortunate truth. The real scandal is comparing him to Trent Lott, as Republican Michael Steele did.
by Sandy Banks
Harry Reid doesn't owe me an apology.
Sure, it was a little odd to see the term "Negro" used outside of a history class or documentary. Sounds like Reid is stuck in the last century.
But the Senate majority leader didn't say anything many Americans -- especially us Negroes -- don't already know.
If you're black, it is easier in this country to be light-skinned.
That's borne out not just by anecdote and experience, but by research documenting favorable treatment for fair-skinned blacks in criminal cases, employment prospects, even social and romantic liaisons.
Studies have shown that darker-skinned blacks are more likely to be unemployed, earn less and hold lower-prestige jobs. In the criminal justice system, convicted murderers with "stereotypically black" features are more than twice as likely as light-skinned defendants to receive death sentences from juries.
Don't blame Reid for the preference. Blame bigotry. Blame history.
The legacy of fair-skinned favoritism in this country has its roots in slavery. Light-skinned blacks tended to be slave owners' progeny, and to be offered education, land and access to broader society.
Those advantages persisted for generations, spawning a light-skinned elite that still has more crossover appeal.
Obama came by his light skin and dialectical flexibility differently -- as a biracial, bicultural son. But he's a political beneficiary of our color-conscious society; to pretend otherwise is disingenuous.
Reid was stating a fact, however indelicate and impolitic.
Obama's appearance and avoidance of "Negro dialect" -- except when reaching out to blacks -- allowed white voters to feel comfortable with his politics and his intellect. He seemed more like them than like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson; less threatening, more like a guy you'd have over for dinner.
Reid expressed regret this weekend "for offending any and all Americans, especially African Americans," with comments he made in 2008 that only now have come to light.
But I don't know why I should be offended.
If anyone is insulted, it should be whites -- whom Reid accused implicitly of being willing to vote for a black man only if he talks like them and is not too black.
I think the next apology ought to come from Michael Steele -- the light-skinned, dialectically flexible African American head of the Republican National Committee.
Steele has called for Reid to step down as majority leader, likening him to Trent Lott, the former Mississippi senator rebuked in 2002 for saying he was "proud" that his state had supported a segregationist candidate in the 1948 presidential election.
That candidate was Strom Thurmond, who famously declared during his White House campaign: "All the laws of Washington and all the bayonets of the Army cannot force the Negro into our homes, our schools, our churches."
Either Steele is playing politics with a combustible case, or he thinks Americans are so incapable of thinking intelligently about race that we can't tell the difference between Lott and Reid.
Now that offends me.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-reid-banks11-2010jan11,0,3963271.column
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It's not Harry Reid who should be apologizing
His remarks about Obama, however indelicate, carried an unfortunate truth. The real scandal is comparing him to Trent Lott, as Republican Michael Steele did.
by Sandy Banks
Harry Reid doesn't owe me an apology.
Sure, it was a little odd to see the term "Negro" used outside of a history class or documentary. Sounds like Reid is stuck in the last century.
But the Senate majority leader didn't say anything many Americans -- especially us Negroes -- don't already know.
If you're black, it is easier in this country to be light-skinned.
That's borne out not just by anecdote and experience, but by research documenting favorable treatment for fair-skinned blacks in criminal cases, employment prospects, even social and romantic liaisons.
Studies have shown that darker-skinned blacks are more likely to be unemployed, earn less and hold lower-prestige jobs. In the criminal justice system, convicted murderers with "stereotypically black" features are more than twice as likely as light-skinned defendants to receive death sentences from juries.
Don't blame Reid for the preference. Blame bigotry. Blame history.
The legacy of fair-skinned favoritism in this country has its roots in slavery. Light-skinned blacks tended to be slave owners' progeny, and to be offered education, land and access to broader society.
Those advantages persisted for generations, spawning a light-skinned elite that still has more crossover appeal.
Obama came by his light skin and dialectical flexibility differently -- as a biracial, bicultural son. But he's a political beneficiary of our color-conscious society; to pretend otherwise is disingenuous.
Reid was stating a fact, however indelicate and impolitic.
Obama's appearance and avoidance of "Negro dialect" -- except when reaching out to blacks -- allowed white voters to feel comfortable with his politics and his intellect. He seemed more like them than like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson; less threatening, more like a guy you'd have over for dinner.
Reid expressed regret this weekend "for offending any and all Americans, especially African Americans," with comments he made in 2008 that only now have come to light.
But I don't know why I should be offended.
If anyone is insulted, it should be whites -- whom Reid accused implicitly of being willing to vote for a black man only if he talks like them and is not too black.
I think the next apology ought to come from Michael Steele -- the light-skinned, dialectically flexible African American head of the Republican National Committee.
Steele has called for Reid to step down as majority leader, likening him to Trent Lott, the former Mississippi senator rebuked in 2002 for saying he was "proud" that his state had supported a segregationist candidate in the 1948 presidential election.
That candidate was Strom Thurmond, who famously declared during his White House campaign: "All the laws of Washington and all the bayonets of the Army cannot force the Negro into our homes, our schools, our churches."
Either Steele is playing politics with a combustible case, or he thinks Americans are so incapable of thinking intelligently about race that we can't tell the difference between Lott and Reid.
Now that offends me.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-reid-banks11-2010jan11,0,3963271.column
GMAFB!!!!!
Reid should be booted out for helping usher in a horrific Deathcare bill and allowing outright bribes on the floor of the Senate.
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It's not Harry Reid who should be apologizing
His remarks about Obama, however indelicate, carried an unfortunate truth. The real scandal is comparing him to Trent Lott, as Republican Michael Steele did.
by Sandy Banks
Harry Reid doesn't owe me an apology.
Sure, it was a little odd to see the term "Negro" used outside of a history class or documentary. Sounds like Reid is stuck in the last century.
But the Senate majority leader didn't say anything many Americans -- especially us Negroes -- don't already know.
If you're black, it is easier in this country to be light-skinned.
That's borne out not just by anecdote and experience, but by research documenting favorable treatment for fair-skinned blacks in criminal cases, employment prospects, even social and romantic liaisons.
Studies have shown that darker-skinned blacks are more likely to be unemployed, earn less and hold lower-prestige jobs. In the criminal justice system, convicted murderers with "stereotypically black" features are more than twice as likely as light-skinned defendants to receive death sentences from juries.
Don't blame Reid for the preference. Blame bigotry. Blame history.
The legacy of fair-skinned favoritism in this country has its roots in slavery. Light-skinned blacks tended to be slave owners' progeny, and to be offered education, land and access to broader society.
Those advantages persisted for generations, spawning a light-skinned elite that still has more crossover appeal.
Obama came by his light skin and dialectical flexibility differently -- as a biracial, bicultural son. But he's a political beneficiary of our color-conscious society; to pretend otherwise is disingenuous.
Reid was stating a fact, however indelicate and impolitic.
Obama's appearance and avoidance of "Negro dialect" -- except when reaching out to blacks -- allowed white voters to feel comfortable with his politics and his intellect. He seemed more like them than like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson; less threatening, more like a guy you'd have over for dinner.
Reid expressed regret this weekend "for offending any and all Americans, especially African Americans," with comments he made in 2008 that only now have come to light.
But I don't know why I should be offended.
If anyone is insulted, it should be whites -- whom Reid accused implicitly of being willing to vote for a black man only if he talks like them and is not too black.
I think the next apology ought to come from Michael Steele -- the light-skinned, dialectically flexible African American head of the Republican National Committee.
Steele has called for Reid to step down as majority leader, likening him to Trent Lott, the former Mississippi senator rebuked in 2002 for saying he was "proud" that his state had supported a segregationist candidate in the 1948 presidential election.
That candidate was Strom Thurmond, who famously declared during his White House campaign: "All the laws of Washington and all the bayonets of the Army cannot force the Negro into our homes, our schools, our churches."
Either Steele is playing politics with a combustible case, or he thinks Americans are so incapable of thinking intelligently about race that we can't tell the difference between Lott and Reid.
Now that offends me.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-reid-banks11-2010jan11,0,3963271.column
For FUCKS sake...
Could someone stop this offending disease?
I hereby declare it the real Pandemia of the 2010's. ::)
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It's not Harry Reid who should be apologizing
His remarks about Obama, however indelicate, carried an unfortunate truth. The real scandal is comparing him to Trent Lott, as Republican Michael Steele did.
by Sandy Banks
Harry Reid doesn't owe me an apology.
Sure, it was a little odd to see the term "Negro" used outside of a history class or documentary. Sounds like Reid is stuck in the last century.
But the Senate majority leader didn't say anything many Americans -- especially us Negroes -- don't already know.
If you're black, it is easier in this country to be light-skinned.
That's borne out not just by anecdote and experience, but by research documenting favorable treatment for fair-skinned blacks in criminal cases, employment prospects, even social and romantic liaisons.
Studies have shown that darker-skinned blacks are more likely to be unemployed, earn less and hold lower-prestige jobs. In the criminal justice system, convicted murderers with "stereotypically black" features are more than twice as likely as light-skinned defendants to receive death sentences from juries.
Don't blame Reid for the preference. Blame bigotry. Blame history.
The legacy of fair-skinned favoritism in this country has its roots in slavery. Light-skinned blacks tended to be slave owners' progeny, and to be offered education, land and access to broader society.
Those advantages persisted for generations, spawning a light-skinned elite that still has more crossover appeal.
Obama came by his light skin and dialectical flexibility differently -- as a biracial, bicultural son. But he's a political beneficiary of our color-conscious society; to pretend otherwise is disingenuous.
Reid was stating a fact, however indelicate and impolitic.
Obama's appearance and avoidance of "Negro dialect" -- except when reaching out to blacks -- allowed white voters to feel comfortable with his politics and his intellect. He seemed more like them than like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson; less threatening, more like a guy you'd have over for dinner.
Reid expressed regret this weekend "for offending any and all Americans, especially African Americans," with comments he made in 2008 that only now have come to light.
But I don't know why I should be offended.
If anyone is insulted, it should be whites -- whom Reid accused implicitly of being willing to vote for a black man only if he talks like them and is not too black.
I think the next apology ought to come from Michael Steele -- the light-skinned, dialectically flexible African American head of the Republican National Committee.
Steele has called for Reid to step down as majority leader, likening him to Trent Lott, the former Mississippi senator rebuked in 2002 for saying he was "proud" that his state had supported a segregationist candidate in the 1948 presidential election.
That candidate was Strom Thurmond, who famously declared during his White House campaign: "All the laws of Washington and all the bayonets of the Army cannot force the Negro into our homes, our schools, our churches."
Either Steele is playing politics with a combustible case, or he thinks Americans are so incapable of thinking intelligently about race that we can't tell the difference between Lott and Reid.
Now that offends me.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-reid-banks11-2010jan11,0,3963271.column
And Chris Dodd praised Robert Byrdd usi ng almost EXACTLY the same words as Lott did in his praising of Thurmond.Lets see,Robert Byrd was a recruiter for the Ku Klux Klan.NOT ONE lib wanted Dodd to step down.I guess being a KLANSMAN AND NOT JUST IN THE KLAN,BUT RECRUIT FOR THE kLAN IS FINE AS LONG AS YOUR A DEMOCRAT.
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oh the drama!!!!!!!!!
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oh the drama!!!!!!!!!
But Dick Cheney making a statement about Palin is earth shattering news.
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But Dick Cheney making a statement about Palin is earth shattering news.
240 is really spinning like a top lately.
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This is such a small issue compared to the damage this congress is doing to the country right now.
Reid should have phrased his comments better but I don't think what he said in 2008 is that important right now.
It is obvious that someone who uses proper English will do better than others that don't...particularly in the workplace. There should be extra emphasis by the teachers on correcting the slang used by many inner city students (it's not just blacks). Give these kids a better chance for advancement by teaching them proper English early. In England, there is no significant speech difference between white and black people...only variations in regional dialect.
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We should probably also remember that Reid is a billion yrs old...so he saw historical changes with blacks that many of us didn't. I don't think his comment was meant to be derrogatory.
However, I hate what direction he and congress are taking this country.
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If Reid is not ousted by his own party, the dems lose a lot of creditbility-- with their own base imo.
This is the same Harry Reid that a few weeks ago compared opponents of Obama care with racists who opposed freeing the slaves.
Now Obama doesn't have a "Negro" dialect?
give me a break.
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This is such a small issue compared to the damage this congress is doing to the country right now.
Reid should have phrased his comments better but I don't think what he said in 2008 is that important right now.
It is obvious that someone who uses proper English will do better than others that don't...particularly in the workplace. There should be extra emphasis by the teachers on correcting the slang used by many inner city students (it's not just blacks). Give these kids a better chance for advancement by teaching them proper English early. In England, there is no significant speech difference between white and black people...only variations in regional dialect.
Your right BUT its about time conservatives stand up and demand the same standards be applied to all.If we are going to be offended then be offended by ANYONE making racist statements,not just those Al Sharpton deems as racist.They need to make a stand here!!!!!!!!!!!
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If Reid is not ousted by his own party, the dems lose a lot of creditbility-- with their own base imo.
This is the same Harry Reid that a few weeks ago compared opponents of Obama care with racists who opposed freeing the slaves.
Now Obama doesn't have a "Negro" dialect?
give me a break.
Republicans has a lot to win on just being the better man on this "issue".
Just refuse to comment on it when being asked, and my guess is everyone will consider them "the better man" for not trying to score cheap ass points by demanding Reid to step down.
I forgot - they already did that.
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Republicans has a lot to win on just being the better man on this "issue".
Just refuse to comment on it when being asked, and my guess is everyone will consider them "the better man" for not trying to score cheap ass points by demanding Reid to step down.
I forgot - they already did that.
What I would say is something like this"
"While Harry's comments are indeed ridiculous, they pale in comparison to the very real reasons he should step down that being . . . . "
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What I would say is something like this"
"While Harry's comments are indeed ridiculous, they pale in comparison to the very real reasons he should step down that being . . . . "
If I were some GOP big shot I would probably say something like:
"Should he step down? Definitely no. I disagree with the man on lots of issues, and think he's leading the country in the wrong direction. But he's entitled to his opinions. Just like I am to mine. When the election comes I will do whatever I can to convince the voters that our plan for America is the right one. And then he will be gone. But for the right reasons."
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If I were some GOP big shot I would probably say something like:
"Should he step down? Definitely no. I disagree with the man on lots of issues, and think he's leading the country in the wrong direction. But he's entitled to his opinions. Just like I am to mine. When the election comes I will do whatever I can to convince the voters that our plan for America is the right one. And then he will be gone. But for the right reasons."
Thats funny.I dont recall libs doing that over the Trent Lott issue.Or ANY other race issue for that matter.
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Thats funny.I dont recall libs doing that over the Trent Lott issue.Or ANY other race issue for that matter.
Dont confuse Hedge with some recent history.
Harry Reid should resign because he is knowingly allowing Democrats to accept bribes in return for votes.
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They are?
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Yep, MSLSD, er, I mean MSNBC is all over Senator Harry Reid over his comments. ::)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34783136/ns/politics-capitol_hill/
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/01/11/2169836.aspx
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/ns/msnbc_tv
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Yep, MSLSD, er, I mean MSNBC is all over Senator Harry Reid over his comments. ::)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34783136/ns/politics-capitol_hill/
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/01/11/2169836.aspx
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/ns/msnbc_tv
His comments pale in comparison to the disaster he permits on the floor of the Senate with this Deathcare disaster.
This is all a distraction.
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Yep, MSLSD, er, I mean MSNBC is all over Senator Harry Reid over his comments. ::)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34783136/ns/politics-capitol_hill/
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/01/11/2169836.aspx
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/ns/msnbc_tv
Here is a prediction,from 5-10 tonight,the ,MSNBC hosts will excuse the remarks,and by the end of the night will actually praise Reid for having the courage to discuss race in the open.Then they will try to paint conservatives as race baitors.Its easily predicted.
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I have a dream....
that one day blacks (negroes, african americans, coloreds...personally, i don't need a new PC name to know who I am) will WAKE UP and realize that Democrats have NO INTEREST WHATSOEVER specific to our race. They're only interested in our vote. WTFU people! It would also be nice if people would do their research and understand that it was the DEMOCRATIC PARTY who fought to KEEP segregation.
The media and the arts have done an amazing job of influencing people otherwise.
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I have a dream....
that one day blacks (negroes, african americans, coloreds...personally, i don't need a new PC name to know who I am) will WAKE UP and realize that Democrats have NO INTEREST WHATSOEVER specific to our race. They're only interested in our vote. WTFU people! It would also be nice if people would do their research and understand that it was the DEMOCRATIC PARTY who fought to KEEP segregation.
The media and the arts have done an amazing job of influencing people otherwise.
Without 90% of the black vote EVERY election the dems lose in tight races.
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yep
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His comments pale in comparison to the disaster he permits on the floor of the Senate with this Deathcare disaster.
This is all a distraction.
+1
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agreed, on all accounts
reid basically gave the man a compliment albeit in a crude manner but a compliment non the less.
How was it a compliment? To consider it a compliment illustrates a very Eurocentric mindset.
It implies there is something ugly or distasteful about dark or darker skin.
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How was it a compliment? To consider it a compliment illustrates a very Eurocentric mindset.
It implies there is something ugly or distasteful about dark or darker skin.
"Negro Dialect" ???? I have a Bronx NY dialect. WTF is reid talking about? This really reveals a sinister person in Reid.
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Face it folks, the only time you really get to hear what a politician really thinks, is when its behind closed doors and off the record. IMHO most if not all politicians are sociopaths.
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msnbc was very tough on reid actually. they said he's losing his seat no matter what, and repubs actually WANT him to keep the seat. He's 5 to 15 points behind everyone - even fringe candidates - and this was BEFORE the slur.
mathews' hardball guests today were saying he should regisn leadership psot and possibly his job altogether. He's gonna lose it in 10 months anyway.
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Face it folks, the only time you really get to hear what a politician really thinks, is when its behind closed doors and off the record. IMHO most if not all politicians are sociopaths.
very true
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How was it a compliment? To consider it a compliment illustrates a very Eurocentric mindset.
It implies there is something ugly or distasteful about dark or darker skin.
yes yes my comment was directed towards his "no negro dialect comment" that is a compliment as in he speaks proper english...
the light skinned comment could be offensive
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yes yes my comment was directed towards his "no negro dialect comment" that is a compliment as in he speaks proper english...
Inability to speak proper English, even flawed understanding of rudimentary grammatics, is an instant road block for many young blacks trying to build a career.
And somehow, blacks are expected to speak wild and colorful. Perhaps if the president doesn't that will set the tone.
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Inability to speak proper English, even flawed understanding of rudimentary grammatics, is an instant road block for many young blacks trying to build a career.
And somehow, blacks are expected to speak wild and colorful. Perhaps if the president doesn't that will set the tone.
...and the inability to speak or understand Ebonics can be a recipe for getting your ass kicked,
or as in my case, ...people assuming you think you are white, or that you think you're somehow better than them.
Thank Goodness highschool is in the past.
I remember when I first moved to Southern Cali, ...people were blown away that I didn't speak 'Ebonics' ::)
I swear some people really need to get out more. >:(
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...and the inability to speak or understand Ebonics can be a recipe for getting your ass kicked,
What's your point?
That the rest of us need to learn to speak Ebonics?
That we need to "de-learn" proper grammar?
BTW, it's not a "black" issue either.
Poor language in white thrash or among spics are just as big hindrance.
Parents should put kids into reading books.
And I'm not talking about easy reading shit.
But classics like Gulliver's travels and various works by Dickens.
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Excellent point Colossus.
"This is the same Harry Reid that a few weeks ago compared opponents of Obama care with racists who opposed freeing the slaves"
I forgot about that 333...certainly an absolutely ridiculous comment.
I wouldn't call for him to step down but would certainly outline the reasons why he should be voted out.
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Did you see Obama yetsterday?Chastising those who would make a story out of this?The same Obama who called for Trent Lott to step down and who commented on Don Imus.
I find it funny when the libs say "you need to take into account the entirety of their life".Lets see,Don Imus has built hospital wings for kids with cancer,funded the intrepids rehab center for wounded soldiers,just gave 250,000 to a hospital in Harlem,runs a ranch for kids with cancer.He has done more good work in his life then Hussein Obama will ever do in his miserable life[like giving less then 1% of his income to charrity]and the libs ran Imus off the air.Double talking two faced idiots.
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Did you see Obama yetsterday?Chastising those who would make a story out of this?The same Obama who called for Trent Lott to step down and who commented on Don Imus.
I find it funny when the libs say "you need to take into account the entirety of their life".Lets see,Don Imus has built hospital wings for kids with cancer,funded the intrepids rehab center for wounded soldiers,just gave 250,000 to a hospital in Harlem,runs a ranch for kids with cancer.He has done more good work in his life then Hussein Obama will ever do in his miserable life[like giving less then 1% of his income to charrity]and the libs ran Imus off the air.Double talking two faced idiots.
Obama can GFH 10 fold.
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just calling a spade a spade..
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just calling a spade a spade..
I would have prefered if Reid instead called Obama a: communist, radical, marxist, NWO front-man, liar, shill, whore, a tyrant, and or any combo of the above.
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...and the inability to speak or understand Ebonics can be a recipe for getting your ass kicked,
or as in my case, ...people assuming you think you are white, or that you think you're somehow better than them.
Thank Goodness highschool is in the past.
I remember when I first moved to Southern Cali, ...people were blown away that I didn't speak 'Ebonics' ::)
I swear some people really need to get out more. >:(
some ppl also need to understand that while some behaviors are acceptable in certain instances they are not in others.
I can speak with a southern draw but when Im working or in a professional atmosphere I am careful of how I pronounce words and my mannerisms...is it asking to much for others to do the same?
like hedge said many blacks eliminate themselves from opportunities b/c of the way they talk and act a rational person would see this and do something to remedy the situation...
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some ppl also need to understand that while some behaviors are acceptable in certain instances they are not in others.
I can speak with a southern draw but when Im working or in a professional atmosphere I am careful of how I pronounce words and my mannerisms...is it asking to much for others to do the same?
like hedge said many blacks eliminate themselves from opportunities b/c of the way they talk and act a rational person would see this and do something to remedy the situation...
Its called keepin it real yo!
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Its called keepin it real yo!
Fo' shizzle ma' nizzle!*
*http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fo'%20shizzle%20my%20nizzle
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Um....didn't Geraldine Ferraro get the boot for saying something MUCH less "insensitive" that Senator Reid? ??? HMMMMMMM
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Um....didn't Geraldine Ferraro get the boot for saying something MUCH less "insensitive" that Senator Reid? ??? HMMMMMMM
Maybe this Reid thing will lead to a stop in drama queens demanding people being fired?
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some ppl also need to understand that while some behaviors are acceptable in certain instances they are not in others.
I can speak with a southern draw but when Im working or in a professional atmosphere I am careful of how I pronounce words and my mannerisms...is it asking to much for others to do the same?
like hedge said many blacks eliminate themselves from opportunities b/c of the way they talk and act a rational person would see this and do something to remedy the situation...
Many people do all sorts of things to limit their opportunities. It's not specific to race. I've worked closely with human resources over the years. It's amazing how many people show up to interviews in jeans these days. You would not believe it.
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Many people do all sorts of things to limit their opportunities. It's not specific to race. I've worked closely with human resources over the years. It's amazing how many people show up to interviews in jeans these days. You would not believe it.
im not saying it is but to deny that this is a problem in the AA sub culture is being ignorant. Certainly man I went to a couple of Job fairs a while back and LOL the way some of these ppl dressed was just hilarious.
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Many people do all sorts of things to limit their opportunities. It's not specific to race. I've worked closely with human resources over the years. It's amazing how many people show up to interviews in jeans these days. You would not believe it.
What do you do for a living? If you would rather not say, can you give the industry you work in? Just curious.
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If conservative politician made that comment, then liberals would have destroyed his or her political career. Harry Reid's comment shows liberals' double standard on race issue.