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What do a think? This was me at my best in 1988. I have not competed since 1994.
I'm 54 and chunky ( perma bulker) , should I try again or just accept my fate as a middle aged "has been" that never was??????.
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You are 54... How about just try to be healthy and look decent.
No point in killing yourself.
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That's not Frank Zane.
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I say go for it. Nothing in the magazines is as inspiring as real life Joes. Howard FTW.
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Go for it , Howard, but as Tu says ... Don't kill yourself in the process by stepping in front of a bus on your way to the health food store.
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Go for it , Howard, but as Tu says ... Don't kill yourself in the process by stepping in front of a bus on your way to the health food store.
I would be more liekley to trip and fall in the street , trying to get to the Krispy Kreme shop when the turn on the hot fresh glazed sign.
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Compete with yourself and you are certain to win.
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Howard, Pre-contest events such as your Krispy Kream shinanigan have occured on numerous occasions directly outside of the old Golds in Santa Monica, so your post is definitely not far from actuality.
For further facts on that subject matter, I have to refer you to Peter G
I would also recommend that you consider the indirect advices of some of our most well known GetBig intelligencia and avoid Solar Flairs and Asteroid attacks and end of the world occurances.
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From another 54 yr old guy, go for it! ;D
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Go for it , Howard, but as Tu says ... Don't kill yourself in the process by stepping in front of a bus on your way to the health food store.
Why not?
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Howard, Such as your Krispy Kream shinanigan has occured on numerous occasion directly outside of the old Golds in Santa Monica, so your post is definitely not far from the truth.
For further facts on that subject matter, I have to refer you to Peter G
I would also recommend that you consider the indirect advices of some of our most well known GetBig intelligencia and avoid Solar Flairs and Asteroid attacks an end of the world occurances.
They also used to drink tons of coffee before workouts, or so I recall. Robinson told me that it became so difficult to get enough caffeine that they just starrted taking No-Doze instead.
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I would be more liekley to trip and fall in the street , trying to get to the Krispy Kreme shop when the turn on the hot fresh glazed sign.
I love me some hot light.
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Do it
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The SCOTT, If I'm not mistaken .... it was Zane who initiated that massive cups of coffee routine.
Could be wrong though.
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Compete with yourself and you are certain to win.
Bingo! Maybe I'l just diet and do a lot of cardio, then post a couple ab shots here at get big and leave it at that?
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The SCOTT, If I'm not mistaken .... it was Zane who initiated that massive cups of coffee routine.
Could be wrong though.
Could have been. Robbie told me about it in the 70s.
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That's not Mike Mentzer!
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BINGO x 2 on the SCOTT recommendation.
My first dog was BINGO but he died before the second number was called.
I still miss him.
He would have been 102 today almost!
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What do a think? This was me at my best in 1988. I have not competed since 1994.
I'm 54 and chunky ( perma bulker) , should I try again or just accept my fate as a middle aged "has been" that never was??????.
if you still have the drive, desire and want... then of course do it. im sure people told you way back then negative things about how you couldn't do it, and you proved them wrong. don't waste time lookig for to many of todays people to tell you you can, prove them wrong too. show your self and them you still got what it takes.
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E-KUl, Good eye! ......... Howard does look like Ray in that photo! (RAY! NOT MIKE!)
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I would be more liekley to trip and fall in the street , trying to get to the Krispy Kreme shop when the turn on the hot fresh glazed sign.
;D I've never understood the love for Krispy creme in general, I like donuts and all but man give me some ice cream or chocolate chip cookies any day over donuts. My brother on the other hand, he looooves donuts.
Anyways, Howard regarding your dilemma, you have to ask yourself..... Is your heart really going to be into it? Like 100%? because if you half ass it and then end up doing bad at the show you will be kicking yourself and really be miserable. I mean... You know how bodybuilding is like, you have to put your mind, heart, and soul into it to do well. Are you ready to do that?
Maybe a good idea is to focus on being healthy, drop some weight and then maybe later you can focus on deciding on whether you want to compete again.
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E-KUl, Good eye! ......... Howard does look like Ray in that photo! (RAY! NOT MIKE!)
I was thinking he looked a great deal like Steve Michalik.
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E-KUl, Good eye! ......... Howard does look like Ray in that photo! (RAY! NOT MIKE!)
Howard certainly looked good, the physiques back then were better than today, I don't care what anybody says, had bodybuilding stayed with the ideal of symmetry, proportion and condition and not gone the way of the mass monster, bodybuilding may have had a chance of greater appeal, not to mention careers could have been extended and we wouldn't have seen the dead pool we currently have. Following bodybuilding in the 90's, I thought I was onto something, I had no idea that it was going to be turned into a freak show that everyone laughed at. So sad, bodybuilding could have been so much more.
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SCOTT! I stand corrected. You are most definitely correct.
Howard does look very much like the young Steve Michalik. ... the year he beat Grymkowski at the Championships.
Is that really you, Howard??
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Howard certainly looked good, the physiques back then were better than today, I don't care what anybody says, had bodybuilding stayed with the ideal of symmetry, proportion and condition and not gone the way of the mass monster, bodybuilding may have had a chance of greater appeal, not to mention careers could have been extended and we wouldn't have seen the dead pool we currently have. Following bodybuilding in the 90's, I thought I was onto something, I had no idea that it was going to be turned into a freak show that everyone laughed at. So sad, bodybuilding could have been so much more.
Part of the reason I want to come back is to put an old school classic physique back on stage.
I also enjoy showing what is possible on little or no drugs.
I was off everything for about a yr when this pic was taken.
I'll take it as a HUGE compliment if some refuse to accept I wasn't on anything .
I always would laugh to myself when people told me what I had to be on to compete and look good.
I'm on Androgel now so I guess I'm not natural but at least I'm honest.
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Part of the reason I want to come back is to put an old school classic physique back on stage.
I also enjoy showing what is possible on little or no drugs.
I was off everything for about a yr when this pic was taken.
I'll tae it as a HUGE compliment if some refuse to accept I wasn't on anything .
I always would laugh to myself when people told me what I had to be on to compete and look good.
I'm on Androgel now so I guess I'm not natural but at least I'm honest.
I think go for it Howard, It may be a little harder and you will have to watch out for injury and train smart, but to tell the truth, I am always far more inspired when the older guys get in shape. And at your age I couldn't think of anything better for the ego and self esteem that to get in better shape than the majority of guys half your age. Like they say, Aim for the moon, even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.
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E-KUL, Even though I can't agree with you entirely, I 'ALMOST' do agree with you entirely and have to honestly say ...... "Well stated, E-Kul!"
My point of contention is that bodybuilding has never been for the masses nor was it ever intended to be for the masses .......
BUT ....
It has grown from absolutely nothing into 'something' that has gathered more attention than was ever anticipated or even deserved.
And that alone cannot be denied ......
Contests that used to include 8 - 12 competitors posing under a basketball net now attract hundreds competing in major city venues.
And still competing for plastic trophies or metal cups or silver swords.
Only the awards have remained the same, except for the relative few who get the covetted 'pro card' and somehow manage to turn it into enough of an advantage to cover their expenses to remain within the game.
I gotta admit that you are correct with what you said ... but there is a hell of a lot more that you have failed to consider.
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I think go for it Howard, It may be a little harder and you will have to watch out for injury and train smart, but to tell the truth, I am always far more inspired when the older guys get in shape. And at your age I couldn't think of anything better for the ego and self esteem that to get in better shape than the majority of guys half your age. Like they say, Aim for the moon, even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.
I have nothing to lose... but fat ,at this point, so wtf?
I have been easing into the diet part and been a tad hit or miss aka inconsistant.
Training is going well, but I gotta tighten up the ol' diet.
I'm 90% sure I'll do the over 50 NPC ga state , on my own terms.
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What do a think? This was me at my best in 1988. I have not competed since 1994.
I'm 54 and chunky ( perma bulker) , should I try again or just accept my fate as a middle aged "has been" that never was??????.
= mid life crisis! Avoid competing, feats of strength, pills and marriage. Hope this helps.
I know a 60 year old bloke who insisted he was going to run a marathon. I told him it was foolish and injury was inevitable. He didn't listen.
He had to give the project away because of damage to his knees!
If you insist on getting in shape then do it so you can post a photo here on Getbig. That should be sufficient. Buy your own trophy if you need
one! :)
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I say go for it.
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHH
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E-KUL, Even though I can't agree with you entirely, I 'ALMOST' do agree with you entirely and have to honestly say ...... "Well stated, E-Kul!"
My point of contention is that bodybuilding has never been for the masses nor was it ever intended to be for the masses .......
BUT ....
It has grown from absolutely nothing into 'something' that has gathered more attention than was ever anticipated or even deserved.
And that alone cannot be denied ......
Contests that used to include 8 - 12 competitors posing under a basketball net now attract hundreds competing in major city venues.
And still competing for plastic trophies or metal cups or silver swords.
Only the awards have remained the same, except for the relative few who get the covetted 'pro card' and somehow manage to turn it into enough of an advantage to cover their expenses to remain within the game.
I gotta admit that you are correct with what you said ... but there is a hell of a lot more that you have failed to consider.
Call me nostalgic, but back when I was a teenager and the likes of Gaspari, Haney, Demey and Paris were competing, their physiques were admirable and gave the young trainer something to aspire too and it was believable that you could achieve a similar look. It took me a while to learn that they were enhanced pharmaceutically (back then it was very hush hush - Tom Platz was one of the first guys to speak out, and he copped hell for it), but even back then, individual health was a concern, their was a healthy respect for limits, to me this is what bodybuilding should be about, great physique coupled with great health and a respectable amount of cardiovascular fitness.
I never wanted bodybuiling to become part of the mainstream, but the changes it made even isolated the current fans, their was a lot of people speaking out against the mass at all costs ideal, like Shawn ray, labrada etc And I agreed with them, and even though bodybuilding did change and managed to survive, for me it lost it's appeal and the good feeling I had being associated with it. I became one of those people who ridiculed it also, I used to defend bodybuilding when others attacked it, but once the mass monster era took over, I became one of those who ridiculed it also. I followed the Naturals for a while, but that also became a farce, now i just sit on the sidelines and comment on getbig and train as much as I can, but not for a LOOK, but for purely health and fitness reasons.
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= mid life crisis! Avoid competing, feats of strength, pills and marriage. Hope this helps.
I know a 60 year old bloke who insisted he was going to run a marathon. I told him it was foolish and injury was inevitable. He didn't listen.
He had to give the project away because of damage to his knees!
well Vince I just got married ( again ) 2 mos ago, just pushed my poundage on some back moves today in the gym and enjoy
useing Ciallis and Viagra pills ;)
The problem with marriage is having kids. the problem with competing is pushing beyond your own terms.
Useing pills for building muscle is silly at my age but useing them to pump other parts is a great thing.
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Some food for thought. I'm friends with Dr. Neal Grossman, competes in his 60s and beats guys in their 20s and 30s.... he started competing at 55!!! Nothing is impossible if your heart is into it.
(http://www.thenaturalmusclenetwork.com/ocb/Contests/2005/OCB100105MD/NealGrossman.jpg)
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= mid life crisis! Avoid competing, feats of strength, pills and marriage. Hope this helps.
I know a 60 year old bloke who insisted he was going to run a marathon. I told him it was foolish and injury was inevitable. He didn't listen.
He had to give the project away because of damage to his knees!
I don't think running marathons is a very healthy pursuit for those over 40, unless they have a strong history of running. A few years ago I did 100KM walk for OXFAM, through Mountainous terrain and the like, it was very hard, and I didn't train enough, but I managed to complete it, and I did feel great afterwards, but strangely enough, once I knew how difficult it was, I was reluctant to try it again, even though I said I would. Anyway, I think Howard can pull it off, he has a history of training, he just needs to be very sensible and extremely vigilant with his diet and cardio, their is no doubt that if he gets in fantastic shape he will be an inspiration to other older men everywhere.
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Some food for thought. I'm friends with Dr. Neal Grossman, competes in his 60s and beats guys in their 20s and 30s.... he started competing at 55!!! Nothing is impossible if your heart is into it.
(http://www.thenaturalmusclenetwork.com/ocb/Contests/2005/OCB100105MD/NealGrossman.jpg)
That kind of lean physique is what my new goal is.
That guy looks healthy and ripped .
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That kind of lean physique is what my new goal is.
That guy looks healthy and ripped .
Agreed, if that man is truly in his 60's, he should be proud of owning a physique like that!
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I don't think running marathons is a very healthy pursuit for those over 40, unless they have a strong history of running. A few years ago I did 100KM walk for OXFAM, through Mountainous terrain and the like, it was very hard, and I didn't train enough, but I managed to complete it, and I did feel great afterwards, but strangely enough, once I knew how difficult it was, I was reluctant to try it again, even though I said I would. Anyway, I think Howard can pull it off, he has a history of training, he just needs to be very sensible and extremely vigilant with his diet and cardio, their is no doubt that if he gets in fantastic shape he will be an inspiration to other older men everywhere.
I ran a full marathon on a silly dare/bet over 30 yrs ago. I finished in 4hrs 11 min and said never again at the finish.
The recent Runners World has featured the HALF- marathon ( 13.1 miles) as the new favorite goal distance for older and recreational runners.
I think it would be fun and realistic goal to compete in my state meet (over 50 div).
In the past 20 yrs , the goal of a pro card has ruined the realistic goals and sensible contest prep for many ambitious bodybuilders.
In my humble opinion anyone can compete and do just fine at a state meet within their division.
You may not beat some freak who pushes the envelope but you can place, get a trophy and feel good about yourself.
Most of the people who run distance races, don't plan on winning the race or going pro, etc.
Unlike the culture in bodybuilding , getting a "PR" and enjoying the race experience is the main focus.
I'm going to get in my best 54 yr old shape without a bunch of drugs or risky contest prep stuff.
LOL, even pro bodybuilders get cracked on here at getbig, so I will just laugh when I get made fun of.
I'll post the pics and simply do the best I can , for better or worse .
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What do a think? This was me at my best in 1988. I have not competed since 1994.
I'm 54 and chunky ( perma bulker) , should I try again or just accept my fate as a middle aged "has been" that never was??????.
Wow..
Howie you looked great back in 88..minus the stache
I think you should do another contest ...What do you have to lose, except for fat..?
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Wow..
Howie you looked great back in 88..minus the stache
I think you should do another contest ...Why do you have to lose, except for fat..
LOL, I look back at the stashe and think , wtf was I thinking. It only lasted a couple yrs, thank GOD.
Thanks for the kind words on my 1988 physique.
I agree , even if I get last, at least I will drop 40-50 lbs of ugly fat WITHOUT cutting off my head ;)
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What was your dose?
What do a think? This was me at my best in 1988. I have not competed since 1994.
I'm 54 and chunky ( perma bulker) , should I try again or just accept my fate as a middle aged "has been" that never was??????.
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You should do it Howard. If you don't it will haunt you until you die. It is one last shot at glory and as the years go on it will be harder and harder. Don't be wondering what if or I wish I would have...
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You were (and still are) a stud Howard!!!! Look like a young Mike Mentzer!!! I hope you and I can meet one day!
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I think you should become a fat cat and settle into married life. :P
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Get Ripped or Die Trying.....
or just Die.....
just kidding...fuck training and drugs just be fat and creep happy Howard
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Bang your wife on a daily basis, at least for 30 min., you will look good and stay healthy for the rest of your life.
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Then who loses?
Those who never try.
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sell your old soiled trunks via Nasser and Sharia Salami and move on with life.
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sell your old soiled trunks via Nasser and Sharia Salami and move on with life.
I'm going to compete and raise the value of my used trunks when I sell 'em on E-Bay.
After getting 4th out of 3 guys in the 2013 over 50, they should be worth a nickel.98.
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By all means, compete! Just remember to stay natural and drug free like Doug Miller. We would hate to see you jeopardize your health.
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The problem with marriage is having kids.
I thought you didn't have kids .
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I was thinking he looked a great deal like Steve Michalik.
X 2
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By all means, compete! Just remember to stay natural and drug free like Doug Miller. We would hate to see you jeopardize your health.
Is "natural" the new term for gh, low androgenic orals, and quick acting esters ?
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you been talking about a comeback since 2004, howard.
Will 2013 be another year of talk? Or will you finally get it moving this year?
Window is closing. Will you be another guy who does nothing but talk about what could have been? Or will you embrace that shit, come back, and have some photos to look at when you're 70... smiling with pride at how a guy in his 50s got into the best shape of his life and got back onstage?
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E-KUL - Thanks for your response on the previous page. It brought back a lot of long lost memories as I worked with or knew every bodybuilder you mentioned and have some interesting stories about each of them which may not be of interest to the 'negative researchers' in this GETBIG group.
But if there is any interest, I will elaborate.
Once again my recollection of the 'enhancements' is a bit different than your own and just about everyone concerned honestly felt that the use of roids merely offered a 10% advantage. (What ever that meant as no one was ever able to compute what that advantage amounted to.)
Back then I have to assume that no one other than a handful of competitors took as much as the 'usual suspects' take now-a-days, so that 10% figure was possibly an actual reality.
But that '10%' was beheld as Gospel by the majority of all involved back then.
And if I recall correctly back in them good old days ..... there really was no 'secret' regarding the use of 'enhancements' unless you found yourself discussing that subject with your fellow competitors or in a crowded room full of people who had no idea of bodybuilding nor what it involved.
One never told the details for fear of losing to the fellow competitor who was interested in those details!, but myself and many others had many an opportunity to discuss it frankly and openly and honestly with some of the top pros back then ...... but that subject wasn't as interesting as it seems to be today.
So. E-KUL.... thanks for jump starting my memory bank and now you have encouraged me to get off my butt and start sending Happy New Year emails to those you mentioned earlier plus many more I've recently forgotten.
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Androgel ain't shit. Time for a real cycle
of gear!!! U'll have a woody every morning.
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SCOTT, I worked with Robby a couple of times back then but I never was privy to his 'supplement intake' nor periods of continuous use, so I can't add anything to what you stated above, but .....
To the best of my recollection only a couple of competitors used massive dosages for long time periods back then but the ones I knew were getting periodic physicals to insure that their health wasn't deteriorating.
And I honestly don't recall any adverse health issues occuring back then, but it is possible that those adverse health problems happened much later on in their lives as a result of the doses they took many years earlier.
But the vast majority of the 'stuff' that was used back then was minor compared to what is being taken today.
Sorry .... Basic stuff here but..... nothing was 'basic' back then because everything pertaining to drugs and muscle growth was purely experimental. Most bodybuilders were walking, talking , experimental, chemistry labs.
ANd you gotta remember that roids were not illegal then and the AMA claimed that they were useless as an enhancement.
But those who used them knew better and decided that if something produced great results, it simply meant to do more of the same. And in some cases much more of the same .... regardless of the consequences that could be possible later.
Back in those early, pre-roid days most thought that bodybuilding pros would look somewhat similar to how the physique competitors appear today.
Massive size was more of a Powerlifters/Olympic lifter's build.
But all that changed over time and led us to where we find competittive bodybuilding today.
And what the future holds is anyone's guess.
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I thought you didn't have kids .
I don't have kids ( never did) but know plenty of folks that had a lot of stress and problems by having 'em.
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you been talking about a comeback since 2004, howard.
Will 2013 be another year of talk? Or will you finally get it moving this year?
Window is closing. Will you be another guy who does nothing but talk about what could have been? Or will you embrace that shit, come back, and have some photos to look at when you're 70... smiling with pride at how a guy in his 50s got into the best shape of his life and got back onstage?
Valid points and thanks for the encouragement to get my ass in gear.
1. I competed in aprox 40 shows from 1978 -1995 . In summary, I did ok , BUT never won a major contest, so
what "COULD have been" = "NEVER was " :D
2. This go round is for me and I plan to use the contest date and atmosphere to get me in good shape.
The contest puts a firm , objective time line on my goal to "get abs" again. That's pretty much it.
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Howard we have been down this road before so here is me being Frank;;
For Fuck Sakes Howard grow some fucken balls and get those damn thongs on, lol.
OK in all seriousness bro, to decide to jump on stage will assure one more all out shredded version of yourself, regardless the outcome you will look the best you have in a long time. All the old memories will come back and you will have a blast during the 12-16 week phase (or however long). I don`t care what anyone says getting in the best shape and looking like someone on stage is nearly impossible without a motivational incentive.
You have nothing to lose, in the worse case scenario you still come out with a sick physique, good times and yet some more memories, beside judging by the last few years this is a chip you are trying to get off your shoulder. Getbig supports you Howard so start looking for the show you want to pick., 8)
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What do a think? This was me at my best in 1988. I have not competed since 1994.
I'm 54 and chunky ( perma bulker) , should I try again or just accept my fate as a middle aged "has been" that never was??????.
No...my delusions of grandeur ended five years ago and I'm 50. It isn't worth the trouble. I'd rather lift heavy shit.
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Lmao, just read your time on your marathon and it was very similar to my time something like 4hours`10mn or something, lol, had some 68 year old lady pass me at the 4 hour mark and was like ``oh no yòu didn`t`` but we got a good laugh out of it, lol,. at that point you don`t care about time you just want to finish
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No...my delusions of grandeur ended five years ago and I'm 50. It isn't worth the trouble. I'd rather lift heavy shit.
U DID WELL...I SEE UR POINT,,,BUT HOWIE AMPS UP THESES THREADS EVERY YEAR AND STAYS THE SAME AT LEAST GET LEAN ,,POST PICS AND THEN TAKE IT TO CONTEST PHASE IF DESIRED,,
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U DID WELL...I SEE UR POINT,,,BUT HOWIE AMPS UP THESES THREADS EVERY YEAR AND STAYS THE SAME AT LEAST GET LEAN ,,POST PICS AND THEN TAKE IT TO CONTEST PHASE IF DESIRED,,
I will admit, the thought does cross my mind but then reality sets in and slap myself and ask "what the hell am I thinking". I think Howie does the same thing. You LIKE the idea of getting in shape to compete, but realize how fucking hard it is and if it's even worth it. My wife and I were discussing this yesterday about fitness. Most people LOVE the idea of training and getting into shape (lose weight, etc) but when they start, they realize just how hard it can be.
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I think you both should compete and compete in the same show against each other and let the wagers begin. :D
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I think you both should compete and compete in the same show against each other and let the wagers begin. :D
THIS I LIKE,,,,,,
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I think you both should compete and compete in the same show against each other and let the wagers begin. :D
I would win ;D
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(http://jasonjeffrey.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/awjeeznotthisshitagain.jpg)
Don't worry, it won't happen. If it did, I'm sure Howard would keep his word unlike fatalice.
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Don't worry, it won't happen. If it did, I'm sure Howard would keep his word unlike fatalice.
You're a fine one to talk about keeping his word Mr 'Til death do us part'. You break your word in front of God a thousand times.
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Go for it Howard, for all of us 50 something that are too lazy and unmotivated!
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You're a fine one to talk about keeping his word Mr 'Til death do us part'. You break your word in front of God a thousand times.
Yes, till death do us part, unless one is a lesbian, the other cheated and the other was "till death do us part"...on which the "death" part was me.
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Yes, till death do us part, unless one is a lesbian, the other cheated and the other was "till death do us part"...on which the "death" part was me.
I like how you summarise things, neatly and consicely.
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Kids should not have kids
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Howard dont feel bad. ive been talking about competing again since 2009 and with me turning 40 in September its either now or never.
See ya in Pittsburg
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Yes, till death do us part, unless one is a lesbian, the other cheated and the other was "till death do us part"...on which the "death" part was me.
It doesn't say "unless". You should know it off by heart by now; you get married every month.
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Howard we have been down this road before so here is me being Frank;;
For Fuck Sakes Howard grow some fucken balls and get those damn thongs on, lol.
OK in all seriousness bro, to decide to jump on stage will assure one more all out shredded version of yourself, regardless the outcome you will look the best you have in a long time. All the old memories will come back and you will have a blast during the 12-16 week phase (or however long). I don`t care what anyone says getting in the best shape and looking like someone on stage is nearly impossible without a motivational incentive.
You have nothing to lose, in the worse case scenario you still come out with a sick physique, good times and yet some more memories, beside judging by the last few years this is a chip you are trying to get off your shoulder. Getbig supports you Howard so start looking for the show you want to pick., 8)
^ THIS.
Do it, Howard. You'd be better off weighing less at your age anyway. Permabulking shit is for teens and 20-somethings. Much beyond that and it's better to stay moderately lean all year anyway.
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^ THIS.
Do it, Howard. You'd be better off weighing less at your age anyway. Permabulking shit is for teens and 20-somethings. Much beyond that and it's better to stay moderately lean all year anyway.
Howard just spit out his Popeye's family size mashed potatoes portion laughing hysterically at morons like yourself who thinks he will so much as lift a finger to get into better shape.
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Howard makes this thread every year.