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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => History - Stories - and Memories => Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan Discussions => Topic started by: Special Ed on December 22, 2005, 02:32:05 PM
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Their former roommate (MJ) had allegedly been using Kelly's identity and had been successful in getting a loan in her name. When Craig and Kelly found out, it was too late. The roommate had allegedly cashed the check and spent some of the money. Craig went ballistic. He allegedly strangled her and put the body in the trunk of Kelly's Jag. He paid Gross $300 bucks to take the car and burn it. Gross didn't know there was a body in the trunk and he allegedly torched the car with the lighter fluid Craig bought. Gross turned himself in when he learned on the news about the body in the trunk and he gave up Titus and Ryan.
And that's the bottom line.
Special "Gus Grissom" Ed
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Their former roommate (MJ) had allegedly been using Kelly's identity and had been successful in getting a loan in her name. When Craig and Kelly found out, it was too late. The roommate had allegedly cashed the check and spent some of the money. Craig went ballistic. He allegedly strangled her and put the body in the trunk of Kelly's Jag. He paid Gross $300 bucks to take the car and burn it. Gross didn't know there was a body in the trunk and he allegedly torched the car with the lighter fluid Craig bought. Gross turned himself in when he learned on the news about the body in the trunk and he gave up Titus and Ryan.
And that's the bottom line.
Special "Gus Grissom" Ed
The $300 amount sealed the deal. He got what he paid for a 1/2 ass job!!!
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Their former roommate (MJ) had allegedly been using Kelly's identity and had been successful in getting a loan in her name. When Craig and Kelly found out, it was too late. The roommate had allegedly cashed the check and spent some of the money. Craig went ballistic. He allegedly strangled her and put the body in the trunk of Kelly's Jag. He paid Gross $300 bucks to take the car and burn it. Gross didn't know there was a body in the trunk and he allegedly torched the car with the lighter fluid Craig bought. Gross turned himself in when he learned on the news about the body in the trunk and he gave up Titus and Ryan.
And that's the bottom line.
Special "Gus Grissom" Ed
where did you get this info?
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Their former roommate (MJ) had allegedly been using Kelly's identity and had been successful in getting a loan in her name. When Craig and Kelly found out, it was too late. The roommate had allegedly cashed the check and spent some of the money. Craig went ballistic. He allegedly strangled her and put the body in the trunk of Kelly's Jag. He paid Gross $300 bucks to take the car and burn it. Gross didn't know there was a body in the trunk and he allegedly torched the car with the lighter fluid Craig bought. Gross turned himself in when he learned on the news about the body in the trunk and he gave up Titus and Ryan.
And that's the bottom line.
Special "Gus Grissom" Ed
Gross should have taken that $300 and gotten himself a website prior to turning himself in. Could you even imagine the hits he would be getting?
240 where were you??
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Who’s stupid enough to torch a new jag for $300? – never asked why? ::)
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Who’s stupid enough to torch a new jag for $300?
A drug addict.
8)
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$300 for torching a Jag is about the going rate in Vegas. In the Bronx and Washington Heights it's closer to $200, but some guys will do it for free if they think the guy who ran Vic's Gym is in the trunk.
Special "Price List" Ed
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$300 for torching a Jag is about the going rate in Vegas. In the Bronx and Washington Heights it's closer to $200, but some guys will do it for free if they think the guy who ran Vic's Gym is in the trunk.
Special "Price List" Ed
nice -- good deal :o
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Their former roommate (MJ) had allegedly been using Kelly's identity and had been successful in getting a loan in her name. When Craig and Kelly found out, it was too late. The roommate had allegedly cashed the check and spent some of the money. Craig went ballistic. He allegedly strangled her and put the body in the trunk of Kelly's Jag. He paid Gross $300 bucks to take the car and burn it. Gross didn't know there was a body in the trunk and he allegedly torched the car with the lighter fluid Craig bought. Gross turned himself in when he learned on the news about the body in the trunk and he gave up Titus and Ryan.
And that's the bottom line.
Special "Gus Grissom" Ed
Unbelievable! So, not only does Craig think the best way to get rid of a body in Las Vegas is to burn it in the back of his own car, he also thinks it would be a good idea to involve some 23-year-old kid, so there's someone who can testify against him. Brilliant move, Craiggers.
He's so fuccking st00pid he deserves to go to jail.
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well, do you think they got away?
Sure.... just like Sally did! ;D
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Unbelievable! So, not only does Craig think the best way to get rid of a body in Las Vegas is to burn it in the back of his own car, he also thinks it would be a good idea to involve some 23-year-old kid, so there's someone who can testify against him. Brilliant move, Craiggers.
He's so fuccking st00pid he deserves to go to jail.
torching new jag = $300
accessory to murder = 5-10 years
Craig Titus continuing his groupie sex parties in prison = priceless
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hope craig speaks spanish
Sheet,,,,,,Craigs Gringo ass don have a steenken chance in old Mexico!! 8)
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Bets on how long till they are caught, or if they get away?
I'd guess they're in custody in less than a week. Neither one of them are very bright.
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Their former roommate (MJ) had allegedly been using Kelly's identity and had been successful in getting a loan in her name. When Craig and Kelly found out, it was too late. The roommate had allegedly cashed the check and spent some of the money. Craig went ballistic. He allegedly strangled her and put the body in the trunk of Kelly's Jag. He paid Gross $300 bucks to take the car and burn it. Gross didn't know there was a body in the trunk and he allegedly torched the car with the lighter fluid Craig bought. Gross turned himself in when he learned on the news about the body in the trunk and he gave up Titus and Ryan.
And that's the bottom line.
Special "Gus Grissom" Ed
Name your source(s). Otherwise it's considered bullshit.
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damn...
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yeah, they may sit tight somewhere for three days, then they'll get nabbed. Unless they ran straight to Mexico before they were on to them
If they managed to get cash and get across the border they may last for a little while, but eventually they'll either run out of money or do something stupid (or both) and get caught.
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Yeah, they have been running for almost a week now (?) – They’re gone. But as soon as this news gets picked up nationally, that’s when they’ll be spotted. My call will be in about a month’s time.
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I have no frickin' clue how tough it takes to catch a fugative, but I'll say that Craig and Kelly are caught within the next week ???
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I'm just reading about this today, it took me by surprise
Someone posted earlier that a lot of getbiggers don't read this board every day. They are going to be SHOCKED when they next logon.
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10 Things You Need to Know:
1. Both will be charged with murder;
2. They have a $500,000 home so there will be no court-appointed lawyers;
3. A competent Vegas criminal defense attorney will charge no less than $50,000 for a murder one case;
4. Pinnacle aint footin' the bill and neither is Uncle Joe or King Kamali;
5. Unless Craig and Kelly are complete morons (a distinct possibility) they probably have enough equity in their home to each get competent defense counsel (and they should hire separate attorneys);
6. Kelly, if properly advised, will roll over on Craig and claim to be a victim and plead to lesser charges;
7. If Craig has to take all of the heat for this one, he probably won't get out until the 2040 Mr. Olympia;
8. With the physical evidence charred, there will be little direct evidence to convict Craig; the case will largely be circumstantial; in other words, the DA will need Kelly;s cooperation to get the conviction.
9. Craig has family in Texas and that's where they will be apprehended.
10. This news will go national by Friday; John Walsh, meet Craig Titus, America's Most Wanted.
Special "Update" Ed
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how do you know they'll be apprehended in Texas and how do you know they'll be on AMW?
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The same way I knew they were being charged with murder before the rest of you believed it. The same way I knew Coleman would win the Olympia this year. The same way I knew Lee Priest would eat 8 cheeseburgers last night. The same way I knew that 240 would be owned, banned, re-invent himself as a nice guy, and come back to posting funny things again...Hang on, collect call from Texas on the other line....Okay, I'm back...what were we talking about? Oh yeah, the sudden silence of the PROS on this site of which there can be only two explanations:
1. By standing by solemnly, they are supporting their fellow athlete in his time of need; or
2. By standing by solemnly, they avoid being the next person charbroiled in the trunk of Kelly's car.
Special "Deepthroat" Ed
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10 Things You Need to Know:
1. Both will be charged with murder;
2. They have a $500,000 home so there will be no court-appointed lawyers;
3. A competent Vegas criminal defense attorney will charge no less than $50,000 for a murder one case;
4. Pinnacle aint footin' the bill and neither is Uncle Joe or King Kamali;
5. Unless Craig and Kelly are complete morons (a distinct possibility) they probably have enough equity in their home to each get competent defense counsel (and they should hire separate attorneys);
6. Kelly, if properly advised, will roll over on Craig and claim to be a victim and plead to lesser charges;
7. If Craig has to take all of the heat for this one, he probably won't get out until the 2040 Mr. Olympia;
8. With the physical evidence charred, there will be little direct evidence to convict Craig; the case will largely be circumstantial; in other words, the DA will need Kelly;s cooperation to get the conviction.
9. Craig has family in Texas and that's where they will be apprehended.
10. This news will go national by Friday; John Walsh, meet Craig Titus, America's Most Wanted.
Special "Update" Ed
so you are saying Craiggers still has a chance at the master's olympia in 2040..?
FUCKING EH!
>:(
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Oh yeah, the sudden silence of the PROS on this site of which there can be only two explanations:
1. By standing by solemnly, they are supporting their fellow athlete in his time of need; or
2. By standing by solemnly, they avoid being the next person charbroiled in the trunk of Kelly's car.
how about they simply have nothing to say? if you don't have any new information, and don't want to make a smart assed remark, what would you say?
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Dose this mean he is not compeating in the Iron Man
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how about they simply have nothing to say? if you don't have any new information, and don't want to make a smart assed remark, what would you say?
Nope :-\
It has been politely 'suggested' that they remain silent.
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The same way I knew they were being charged with murder before the rest of you believed it. The same way I knew Coleman would win the Olympia this year. The same way I knew Lee Priest would eat 8 cheeseburgers last night. The same way I knew that 240 would be owned, banned, re-invent himself as a nice guy, and come back to posting funny things again...Hang on, collect call from Texas on the other line....Okay, I'm back...what were we talking about? Oh yeah, the sudden silence of the PROS on this site of which there can be only two explanations:
1. By standing by solemnly, they are supporting their fellow athlete in his time of need; or
2. By standing by solemnly, they avoid being the next person charbroiled in the trunk of Kelly's car.
Special "Deepthroat" Ed
He,he. I like this "Special Ed" guy! :D
It's all pure speculation on his part, but everything he has said regarding this story smacks of the truth of how it all went down, and how it may play itself out in court. If they hire separate attorneys, you best believe Kelly will roll on ol' Craigers for a reduced sentence.
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how about they simply have nothing to say? if you don't have any new information, and don't want to make a smart assed remark, what would you say?
Timothy, you still haven't given us your take on this situation.
Speak.
DIV
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Hey Jeet Kun Do Man,
Thanks for the compliment. Check out my Craig and Kelly love poem on the Titus-Framed thread!
Special "Shameless Plugger" Ed
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Hey Jeet Kun Do Man,
Thanks for the compliment. Check out my Craig and Kelly love poem on the Titus-Framed thread!
Special "Shameless Plugger" Ed
Ahhh...a guy who even knows what my moniker stands for! Very good. :D Although it IS spelled "Kune". ;)
I'll have to check out your poem, bro. I'm sure it's entertaining.
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6. Kelly, if properly advised, will roll over on Craig and claim to be a victim and plead to lesser charges;
8. With the physical evidence charred, there will be little direct evidence to convict Craig; the case will largely be circumstantial; in other words, the DA will need Kelly;s cooperation to get the conviction.
You're forgetting they already have the other co-conspirator in custody, and he's singing like a canary. They don't really need Kelly. Although in reality, the DA may offer her a deal anyway just to further strengthen his case against Craiggers.
9. Craig has family in Texas and that's where they will be apprehended.
Is Craig really that fuccking stupid? I would have been in Mexico on my way to South America a week ago! Wait, never mind.... if he was smart, he would have disposed of the body properly, and he wouldn't be in this mess to begin with. You're prolly right... he'll be arrested in Texas. ;D
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I don't what kind of a role this stooge (Gross) really played, but if your singing to the police when your up for a murder. Why not say, I didn't know there was a body in the trunk.
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Titus is about as good a murderer as he is a bodybuilder. And that kid is not an accessory to murder if he had no idea it happened. Turning himself in was the smartest thing he could have done. I also doubt Titus's house is a half million. Remember this is Vegas. Homes do not cost that much. A half a million dollars would give him something better than the house he has.
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I wonder if the cops found his steroid stash?
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the girl deserved to die for doing that shit.
KILL HER!!!! >:(
DIV
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Craig is an absolute moron. He could have called the cops on the chick or got her arrested for fraud or taken her to court and sued her. But NO..Craig is that stupid. What kind of moron would strangle a 120 pound woman. Could you imagine if Craig ever had kids. Imagine his kid coming home from school with a bad report card. It's probably for the best that he will be soon locked up for the rest of his life. Craig never accomplished anything. He was an awful bodybuilder.
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Titus is about as good a murderer as he is a bodybuilder. And that kid is not an accessory to murder if he had no idea it happened. Turning himself in was the smartest thing he could have done. I also doubt Titus's house is a half million. Remember this is Vegas. Homes do not cost that much. A half a million dollars would give him something better than the house he has.
from the pics I have seen him and Kelly had a really nice place. Have you been there
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I wonder if the cops found his steroid stash?
No, they're still looking for the Weapons of Mass Construction.
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I also doubt Titus's house is a half million. Remember this is Vegas. Homes do not cost that much. A half a million dollars would give him something better than the house he has.
The recent assessment listed its current value as $470,000. Someone posted the link earlier today.
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Gross should have taken that $300 and gotten himself a website prior to turning himself in. Could you even imagine the hits he would be getting?
240 where were you??
$300 is also the going rate for a fantasy wrestling or muscle worship session.
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Well, if thats the case then I am sorry. $470,000 sounds about right. I just asken my daughters mom about there house. They had it built in Ironwood Estates a secured place in Summerlin about 5 years ago. It's 6900 sq. ft. they had built for $319,000. It was appraised just two months ago at $511,000. So I guess it's right. My bad. They don't even have a pool
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Here's the link:
http://sandgate.co.clark.nv.us/servlet/Assessor?instance=pcl7&parcel=163-30-612-016
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The same way I knew that 240 would be owned, banned, re-invent himself as a nice guy, and come back to posting funny things again...
240 was banned?!? What happened!? LOL!
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Here's the link:
http://sandgate.co.clark.nv.us/servlet/Assessor?instance=pcl7&parcel=163-30-612-016
I wonder why the name only has Kelly's name on the dded and not hers and Craigs?
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What I don't understand about many of you is that you fail to recognise the possibility that they realised it was a lose lose situation and got the fok out of there. Why waste time with elaborate schemes of body dumping when you know you're in the shit?
They only had one chance to escape this and the time was exactly when they left. If you possess such infantile logic to think they were really that stupid consider this: if they thought they were getting rid of the body ok why the hell are they gone? ::)
Seems fairly logical to me. Remove the body from the house and get it away in the desert. This buys a few days as it takes time to establish where the vehicle came from. Infact if that trucker had not seen it 1/2 a mile away from the road they would still be on the run and nobody would know.. (yet)
The only other option would have been to cut the girl up, bury her and sit tight whilst the cops sniffed around and that would have been very tough to get away with (not to mention do, as cutting up a body has to be a pretty horrible thing to do). One minor slip up and that would be it, as there are no second chances to make a run for it once you play your hand and stay in your house and deal with the police.
I realise that this is a long post and somewhat dispells your fantasies that you can think better in that situation but you're all douchebags with no true flair for logic.
Love
Rocket. :-*
Lolzors, I am leaving this post because it was beautifully written by a mind of logic, I have since learnt that Titus stayed and was questioned about his car. He really is that stupid! What a dumb shit!
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Who’s stupid enough to torch a new jag for $300? – never asked why? ::)
Idiot enough.. I would have drove the car away and sell it.. When I found out the body, then I just dump the body along the road.
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lol kelli told antony to take the 300 and contact 240 about a website
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Craig is an absolute moron. He could have called the cops on the chick or got her arrested for fraud or taken her to court and sued her. But NO..Craig is that stupid. What kind of moron would strangle a 120 pound woman. Could you imagine if Craig ever had kids. Imagine his kid coming home from school with a bad report card. It's probably for the best that he will be soon locked up for the rest of his life. Craig never accomplished anything. He was an awful bodybuilder.
Craig has a daughter. Teen-age I believe. Lives w/her grandparents in Houston. He sees (or was seeing) her a couple times a year, I heard.
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240 was banned?!? What happened!? LOL!
Never banned. Self-deleted after some pricknozzle decided to post my wife's personal info.
I never left tho, just had to lay low with the name.
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I wonder why the name only has Kelly's name on the dded and not hers and Craigs?
Prob. because Craig is a convicted felon. If you are convicted supposedly you cannot own land. I don't know if this is still a law , but it use to be.
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from the pics I have seen him and Kelly had a really nice place. Have you been there
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it'll be up for sale shortly, get in line to be the first to make an offer...... :P
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Prob. because Craig is a convicted felon. If you are convicted supposedly you cannot own land. I don't know if this is still a law , but it use to be.
Las Vegas is the haven for convicted felons. I don't think being a felon has anything to do with owning land. You can own no matter who you are.
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Las Vegas is the haven for convicted felons. I don't think being a felon has anything to do with owning land. You can own no matter who you are.
well he's gonna remain a nevada resident for a longtime now
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recent assessment listed its current value as $470,000
In LV that price should make for a nice place. I saw the house on one of the recent TV videos, it was nice as well as good-sized.
The TV footage of Craig training Vince Neil seemed to be from Craig's home gym.
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torching new jag = $300
accessory to murder = 5-10 years
Seeing Craig Titus on Death Row = priceless.
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Probably get his house for a good price at the auction. Best way to buy expensive things. Government auctions are awesome.
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Probably get his house for a good price at the auction. Best way to buy expensive things. Government auctions are awesome.
yes, i did exremely well 15 years ago
dumps for 30 are now going for 600
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Don't know about that. But the real estate really has grown in Vegas.
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Can you imagine if Ron interviewed Craig and Kelly? The guy throws more softballs than a batting practice pitcher.
Ron: Craig, did you do it?
CT: No man, I had nothing to do with it.
Ron: So what happened?
CT: All of this crap on the internet and television is complete BS.
Ron: Tell us what happened Craig.
CT: We opened our home to this girl who needed a place to stay. She became addicted to drugs and we felt sorry for her. I felt the right thing to do was to send her home to be with her family for the holidays and to get cleaned up. I bought her a plane ticket and booked a hotel for her. Why would I do that for someone I wanted to kill?
Ron: So Kelly, did you kill her?
KR: No man, I had nothing to do with it.
Ron: So what happened?
KR: All of this crap on the internet and television is complete BS.
Ron: Yeah, I know. That's what I've been saying.
KR: We opened our home and hearts to this girl and now everyone thinks we're monsters.
Ron: Well, why did you guys flee to Boston?
KR: We didn't "flee" anywhere. We went on a cross-country road trip to get some quality time together. I read about this great nail salon in Boston and since Craig's best friend lives there, we decided to visit him for a few days.
Ron: That's what I originally said on Getbig. That you guys were on vacation.
KR: You were exactly right, Ron.
Ron: Thanks. So how did Melissa wind up dead.
KR: She had been very depressed lately.
Ron: So you're saying it was a suicide?
KR: Anything is possible.
Ron: Wow, that's astonishing.
CT: Kelly and I are 100% innocent. Remember brother, it's innocent until proven guilty.
Ron: I know Craig. That's what I keep telling people.
CT: Okay brother, we gotta get back to our cells.
Ron: Thanks for the real story Craig and Kelly.
CT: Peace.
KR: Happy Hannukah Ron.
And there you have it. Another groundbreaking Getbig.com interview. But wait. Let's get Ron's expert post-interview analysis:
As I've been saying, we shouldn't rush to conclusions about the case. Craig and Kelly have always been very nice to me. I've known them for years and have never seen them murder anyone. I've never heard any rumors about them strangling people or burning them either, so I think we all need to be patient and wait for the whole story to emerge. Melissa James is the only one who knows what really happened and she can't tell us. Who knows what really happened. Maybe Melissa overdosed on drugs and fell into one of her nylon pantyhose that was hanging up to dry and caught her neck in it and began choking and then ran down the stairs for help and tripped and fell into the trunk of Kelly's Jaguar and died there. Maybe the Jaguar had been giving them problems (they are notoriously unreliable) and Craig decided to torch the vehicle and had no idea that Melissa had OD'ed, strangled herself on her pantyhose, and fallen into the trunk. Folks, anything is possible. As I've said, I've known Craig and Kelly for many years and they never strangled, burned, or killed me, so I think we need to take them at their word.
Special "Ron" Ed
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So true. LOL