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Title: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: 240 is Back on April 30, 2016, 06:38:09 PM
He's not learning more about world conflicts.  He's not improving his knowledge.  He's not establishing relationships with these leaders he'll have to face.  Any person actually this inept - who now realizes the nomination is his and he might win the election - would be scared shitless of being exposed as not knowing what a nuclear triad is, or being repeatedly contradictory on US interventionism vs isolationism.  

IF he was actually running, and not in it to pull out last minute and hand it to Hilary, he'd be terrified.  He'd be becoming a master of these issues and conflicts and he'd have actual solutions.  

The fact that Trump is still using the same vague phrases, and hasn't been reading WIKI cliffs notes on every conflict in US history, meeting world leaders...  preparing himself to be the nation's decider when he's never been a legislator before...

it tells me that 100% of his role is to RUN - and not actually DO THE JOB of president.  Palin was getting schooled daily on these topics, and she was an actual governor.  Demanding more torture and saying you'll steal the oil of a soverign nation are what you say when you're RUNNING - anyone who actually believed he'd be president would never draw those lines in the sand and really, sully their presidential legacy like that.

He'll run, he'll bail, Hilary will coast in, and we'll have 8 years of democrat run, delivered by a man paid $250 mil by NBC who was a very public lifetime liberal for 62 years,
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 08, 2016, 08:12:02 AM
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/donald-trump-donations-democrats-hillary-clinton-119071

Trump has spent years courting Hillary and other Dems
By NICK GASS 06/16/15 03:12 PM EDT
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Donald Trump jumped into the crowded and rowdy Republican presidential field on Tuesday, but the business magnate has astutely played both sides of the aisle for years, and has been especially cozy — financially and personally — with Hillary Clinton.

Clinton, the Democratic front-runner and former New York senator who had some say over policy that could have impacted Trump’s vast business dealings, received donations from both him and son Donald Trump Jr. on separate occasions in 2002, 2005, 2006 and 2007, according to state and federal disclosure records.


Trump has also been generous with the Clinton Foundation, donating at least $100,000, according to the non-profit.

In another sign of their closeness, Clinton attended Trump’s 2005 wedding to current wife Melania Knauss at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Florida, along with the likes of Katie Couric, Billy Joel and then-“American Idol” judge Simon Cowell. (According to People, Clinton had front-pew seating. Though Bill missed the ceremony itself, he did show up to the reception.)

PORTSMOUTH, NH - APRIL 27:  Donald Trump arrives to speak to the media at Pease International Trade Port on April 27, 2011 in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. Trump is testing the waters for a possible run for the Republican Presidential nomination, and addressed US President Barack Obama's release of his original birth certificate earlier that morning.  (Photo by Matthew Cavanaugh/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Donald Trump; View Photo Gallery
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She wasn’t the only Democratic beneficiary of Trump’s wealth. Trump donated $5,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and $20,000 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in the 2006 cycle, effectively buoying the election prospects of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, respectively.

Just $1,000 of Trump’s money in the 2006 cycle went to the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

The last time Trump considered a White House run in 2011, reporters seized upon the fact that he has given most of his money to Democrats and Democratic causes, according to records.

Trump defended his donations to New York Democrats in an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity that April, proclaiming that in the state, “everyone is Democratic” and implying that to donate otherwise would be waste of his money.

“So, what am I going to do, contribute to Republicans? Am I going to contribute to, I mean, one thing I’m not stupid. Am I going to contribute to a Republican for my whole life when they get, they run against some Democrat. And the most they can get is one percent of the vote,” he said, noting his “good relationship” with and donations to Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.). Trump last donated to Schumer directly in 2010, though he had made donations ranging from $250 to $2,000 since 1996.

“I mean, I’ve contributed to Schumer, I contribute — I’ve known Schumer for many, many years. And I have a good relationship with him. The fact is, that I think it is time maybe that we all do get along,” he told Hannity.

Beginning with the 2012 cycle, however, financial disclosures show that Trump has donated exclusively to Republican candidates and groups.

NEW YORK, NY - JUNE 16:  Business mogul Donald Trump makes his way off stage after announcing his candidacy for the U.S. presidency at Trump Tower on June 16, 2015 in New York City.  Trump is the 12th Republican who has announced running for the White House.  (Photo by Christopher Gregory/Getty Images)
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Trump mentioned neither Clinton nor Schumer in his Tuesday announcement speech. In fact, the only time Trump uttered the word “Clinton” was not in reference to the Democratic frontrunner, but rather part of the name of the New York state correctional facility from whence two men escaped earlier this month.

“Through stupidity, in a very, very hardcore prison, interestingly named Clinton, two vicious murderers, two vicious people escaped, and nobody knows where they are,” Trump said.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: 240 is Back on August 08, 2016, 08:14:18 AM
'Beginning with the 2012 cycle, however, financial disclosures show that Trump has donated exclusively to Republican candidates and groups.'

Sickening. 
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 08, 2016, 08:30:01 AM
'Beginning with the 2012 cycle, however, financial disclosures show that Trump has donated exclusively to Republican candidates and groups.'

Sickening. 

Trump is playing all these people for fools - its sad to see.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: chaos on August 08, 2016, 09:30:04 AM
Fella can't switch sides and play for the other team?
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 08, 2016, 09:40:48 AM
Fella can't switch sides and play for the other team?

Sure he could, but so far he seems to me to be playing for the same team as a psy op 
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 08, 2016, 09:43:15 AM
Trump is playing all these people for fools - its sad to see.

I'm really convinced you sold your account to another member.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 08, 2016, 09:54:00 AM
I'm really convinced you sold your account to another member.

Not at all - this whole Trump thing is ridiculous.  Long after Trump loses and historic fashion worse than Goldwater - some of us will at least be able to say we foresaw this mess. 

The way i look at it - no bullshit - cause i hate hillary like she is the devil

1)  Trump needs all the Romney people -  so far he has most but not all of them.  That is 47%.  But he has alienated a lot of romney voters, others have died off, etc.  So say that the effectof that is that he is at 43-45% to be fair 

2)  Trump is turning on millions of people who never voted before.  Ok - i keep hearing that.  But where?  Unless its in the mid-west - it doesnt matter.  he will get the Southern states - but enough to get Ohio, PA, MI, WI - doubtful.   not enough to get EC victory to 270 

3)  Hillary has all the Obama voters plus a lot of lib/RINO women who want a chick in office.

4)  Hillary has the black/welfare/hispanic/poverty/bernie/commie vote - that is getting locked in. 

5)  Trump running a horrible campaign.   I mean lets be real - its laughable to see people defend this mess.  No money going to ads, no consistent message, no party unity, attacking repubs more than anything, etc.   Gaffes galore daily w getting into petty spats w people like Khan, etc,. 

6)  No state wide campaign infrastructure.  I get emails from both.  trump is not running a serious camp;aign w a realistic GOTV effort.  Its just not there. 

7)  The economy and country is in horrible shape for many, but those people already voting for Trump.  those voting for hillary dont care cause they are either wealthy libs, blacks, lezbos, broke ass college kids, pissed off hispanics, etc.   not enough poor ass and struggling middle class whites to offset hillary. 



Just reality.   it is what it is .   my GOP friends refuse to listen.     
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 12, 2016, 07:45:48 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/291286-is-trump-deliberately-throwing-the-election-to

Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 12, 2016, 08:22:16 PM
As much as I want him to win and like I've said before, she's the chosen one....since 2008 so this is all a moot point. But still pisses me off that people are more concerned about what he's said instead of her proven corruption.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: 240 is Back on August 12, 2016, 09:08:06 PM
As much as I want him to win and like I've said before, she's the chosen one....since 2008 so this is all a moot point. But still pisses me off that people are more concerned about what he's said instead of her proven corruption.

Coach,
Do u believe trump gave it his all and was just this bad at it?

Or do u think part of Hilary being the chosen one was Hilary picking her opponent. 
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 12, 2016, 09:40:40 PM
Coach,
Do u believe trump gave it his all and was just this bad at it?

Or do u think part of Hilary being the chosen one was Hilary picking her opponent.  

You're CT's backfired everytime so it kinda makes you a little delusional. But as hard you think he isn't trying the race sure it close.

240, let say for the sake of arguement he wins, what will you do? You might have to get to re-acquainted with your family so they can see what your face actually looks like from being buried in your phone and computer.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: 240 is Back on August 12, 2016, 11:55:30 PM
You're CT's backfired everytime so it kinda makes you a little delusional. But as hard you think he isn't trying the race sure it close.

240, let say for the sake of arguement he wins, what will you do? You might have to get to re-acquainted with your family so they can see what your face actually looks like from being buried in your phone and computer.

you don't answer the Q.   You only attack me.   

Again, do you think part of hilary being the 'chosen one' is that she picked her own opponent?
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: obsidian on August 13, 2016, 12:10:55 PM
I'm really convinced you sold your account to another member.
Same here. This is not 333 posting.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 13, 2016, 01:34:54 PM
Same here. This is not 333 posting.

Yes it is.   Trump is a lifelong liberal and friend of the hildebeast.   
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 14, 2016, 08:39:05 PM
As much as I want him to win and like I've said before, she's the chosen one....since 2008 so this is all a moot point. But still pisses me off that people are more concerned about what he's said instead of her proven corruption.

You mean the corruption that after 30  years, the GOP still can't offer proof of?

You really do have a long eight years of whining ahead of you.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: iwantmass on August 14, 2016, 08:51:43 PM
You mean the corruption that after 30  years, the GOP still can't offer proof of?

You really do have a long eight years of whining ahead of you.


What do you mean by them not offering proof?  Are you going to act completely ignorant to bill Clinton miraculously/coincidentally being at the same airport as Loretta Lynch, noticing her plane, and engaging her in a. 30 minute conversation.   This is the very same Loretta Lynch that had her political career initiated by the very same bill Clinton.  All of these long shot coincidences just so happened a week before hillary's 3 hour short fbi interview that Comey himself did not participate in, nor did he even consult with all the agents that did interview her.

Are you telling me you are just this stupid or just this dishonest and biased? It's only one or the other.  I'm okay with you being completely blind and biased to Clinton corruption.  Just don't act like the rest of us are crazy for pointing it out.  Proving something has nothing to do with incriminating someone.  More than enough proof has been offered and they always remain untouched
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 14, 2016, 10:57:17 PM
You mean the corruption that after 30  years, the GOP still can't offer proof of?

You really do have a long eight years of whining ahead of you.

If this is over your head I can slow it down for you...

https://www.facebook.com/NBCNews/videos/1226365437459706/
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 15, 2016, 05:01:10 AM
Proof without evidence isn't proof.  It's just whining and CT. 

"It's only proof if you want it to be".  Otherwise it is just speculation.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2016, 05:15:57 AM
coach, are you still playing the fence with "i'll decide on election day if I will vote trump"?

That sums things up perfectly.  You hate hilary with all your heart, but STILL cannot commit, with less than 3 months to go, to Trump.

He really is that bad, huh?  You still cannot endorse him, coach?   Says a lot.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2016, 05:24:29 AM
I watched Trump this weekend a bit - he is entirely flailing, unhinged, disconnected to reality, and just out there killing time.

This now has the feel of a NFL game where its over in the early 3rd quarter and the losing team just trys anything, wierd plays, hail marys, the QB is sidelined and laughing on the side and everyone just killing the clock and hoping no one gets injured before its over. 
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2016, 05:27:08 AM
I watched Trump this weekend a bit - he is entirely flailing, unhinged, disconnected to reality, and just out there killing time.

This now has the feel of a NFL game where its over in the early 3rd quarter and the losing team just trys anything, wierd plays, hail marys, the QB is sidelined and laughing on the side and everyone just killing the clock and hoping no one gets injured before its over. 

YES!   Trump is the announcer when the home team Rams are down by 31 points against the Pats, halfway thru the 3rd quarter.

His constant emphasis on "the media is why I'm losing" tells me he is setting the stage for what is next..> TrumpTV.   He has his nemesis now.  He can quietly start joking about letting Pence take over the ticket.  He can start musing about how he can probably help America more by battling the media each day.  He'll crate a need, a vacuum, and frame it so that only he can stop it.... with his own channel.

And let's face it... trump has 100x the impact of Rush Limbaugh, who does this shit for a living.  Trump's anti-media media channel will be freakin' huge and will get millions of viewers.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2016, 05:29:42 AM
YES!   Trump is the announcer when the home team Rams are down by 31 points against the Pats, halfway thru the 3rd quarter.

His constant emphasis on "the media is why I'm losing" tells me he is setting the stage for what is next..> TrumpTV.   He has his nemesis now.  He can quietly start joking about letting Pence take over the ticket.  He can start musing about how he can probably help America more by battling the media each day.  He'll crate a need, a vacuum, and frame it so that only he can stop it.... with his own channel.

And let's face it... trump has 100x the impact of Rush Limbaugh, who does this shit for a living.  Trump's anti-media media channel will be freakin' huge and will get millions of viewers.

What bothers me more are my friends who are Trump fanatics who refuse to see this and blame everyone else like Ryan, the GOPe, etc.  The disconnect to reality is pretty amazing to watch. 
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2016, 05:31:39 AM
What bothers me more are my friends who are Trump fanatics who refuse to see this and blame everyone else like Ryan, the GOPe, etc.  The disconnect to reality is pretty amazing to watch. 

now they are blaming the polls.  the same polls they loved for a year. Suddenly, all the polls are skewed.

they refuse to accept the fact that many of the 20% undecided voters have decided in the past few weeks.  And they decided outside of political positions - they decided based upon basic competency.  And intentional or not, trump has not appeared competent in the past 3 weeks.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2016, 05:53:00 AM
now they are blaming the polls.  the same polls they loved for a year. Suddenly, all the polls are skewed.

they refuse to accept the fact that many of the 20% undecided voters have decided in the past few weeks.  And they decided outside of political positions - they decided based upon basic competency.  And intentional or not, trump has not appeared competent in the past 3 weeks.

Here are the things that they refuse to even talk about and blame others for - its no different than democrats who suck obama dick

1.  Blaming the judge being Mexican (despite that he was born here) for rulings in his case
2.  Picking a fight w Khans' family
3.  Attacking the GOP endlessly
4.  Going back on his pledge over his taxes
5.  Using crude language all the time to describe people
6.  Having no staff whatsoever experienced in winning elections
7.  Saying crazy shit like "Only I can fix it", "I know better than anyone about ISIS", "Soldiers will follow my orders no matter what" 
8.  Now saying he doesnt care if he loses
9.  Always being a drama queen w every little petty spat and walking into every single trap set for him by Dems
10.  No GOTV plan at all and he said so the other day. 
11.  Blaming the media for his flood of false claims on twitter and public

Yeah its all everyone elses fault.   ::)  ::)

Like I said - i realized that Trump was a complete scam artist and con man with the birther thing.  Sad how people are taken in by this A-Hole.     
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2016, 05:58:07 AM
trump will be pretty good at framing a loss... he'll paint it as a win and use it as a springboard for his new tv network.

What WILL be interesting - will be that brief month-long period when his campaign workers and peers come fwd and say it was all a scam, all along... nothing but a selfish stunt to boost his own media presence, handing a democrat the white house intentionally all along.

These thick-headed trump supporters will refuse to believe it, just as they refused to admit Hermann Cain was shady as the 11 years of payoffs and hundreds of sexting text messages were revealed.  A year from now - They'll remember Trump as the hero that challenged clinton and the media as they watch his channel. 

They'll never admit they were duped into wearing a Trump hat, putting the sign in their yard, telling all their friends why Trump will make america great again.... admitting they were praising a democrat pulling a stunt would be too much of an ego hit.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 15, 2016, 06:03:17 AM
Here are the things that they refuse to even talk about and blame others for - its no different than democrats who suck obama dick

1.  Blaming the judge being Mexican (despite that he was born here) for rulings in his case
2.  Picking a fight w Khans' family
3.  Attacking the GOP endlessly
4.  Going back on his pledge over his taxes
5.  Using crude language all the time to describe people
6.  Having no staff whatsoever experienced in winning elections
7.  Saying crazy shit like "Only I can fix it", "I know better than anyone about ISIS", "Soldiers will follow my orders no matter what" 
8.  Now saying he doesnt care if he loses
9.  Always being a drama queen w every little petty spat and walking into every single trap set for him by Dems
10.  No GOTV plan at all and he said so the other day. 
11.  Blaming the media for his flood of false claims on twitter and public

Yeah its all everyone elses fault.   ::)  ::)

Like I said - i realized that Trump was a complete scam artist and con man with the birther thing.  Sad how people are taken in by this A-Hole.     

I can't tell how heavily you are medicated when you post like this.  LOL!
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2016, 06:06:34 AM
trump will be pretty good at framing a loss... he'll paint it as a win and use it as a springboard for his new tv network.

What WILL be interesting - will be that brief month-long period when his campaign workers and peers come fwd and say it was all a scam, all along... nothing but a selfish stunt to boost his own media presence, handing a democrat the white house intentionally all along.

These thick-headed trump supporters will refuse to believe it, just as they refused to admit Hermann Cain was shady as the 11 years of payoffs and hundreds of sexting text messages were revealed.  A year from now - They'll remember Trump as the hero that challenged clinton and the media as they watch his channel. 

They'll never admit they were duped into wearing a Trump hat, putting the sign in their yard, telling all their friends why Trump will make america great again.... admitting they were praising a democrat pulling a stunt would be too much of an ego hit.

Its ridiculous.  I'm also thinking Trump was sent by Obama to diffuse the birther issue.  Notice how every single time Hillary or Obama got into trouble over something - Trump was or is there to do or say something so ridiculous as to take the heat off them or undermine the issue by making himself the issue instead?

I look at Trump now as a real POS.  We easily could have defeated and destroyed that criminal bitch Hillary, who should be in jail, but instead are heading for a landslide and possibly losing the house and senate.  He is an ego maniac and mental case.  
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2016, 06:14:13 AM
I can't tell how heavily you are medicated when you post like this.  LOL!

Its impossible that someone could run such a piss poor campaign. 

Additionally - here is my other belief IF he really wanted to win.  Obviously all his daily verbal diareah is hurting him correct?  So im sure his advisers more than once have said "STFU and take it easy for awhile" to where even as a potted plant in the corner he would be doing better.  But instead he does the opposite and does and says even more crazy shit. 

why? 
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2016, 06:56:23 AM
Free republic is like the twilight zone lately.


trump will be pretty good at framing a loss... he'll paint it as a win and use it as a springboard for his new tv network.

What WILL be interesting - will be that brief month-long period when his campaign workers and peers come fwd and say it was all a scam, all along... nothing but a selfish stunt to boost his own media presence, handing a democrat the white house intentionally all along.

These thick-headed trump supporters will refuse to believe it, just as they refused to admit Hermann Cain was shady as the 11 years of payoffs and hundreds of sexting text messages were revealed.  A year from now - They'll remember Trump as the hero that challenged clinton and the media as they watch his channel. 

They'll never admit they were duped into wearing a Trump hat, putting the sign in their yard, telling all their friends why Trump will make america great again.... admitting they were praising a democrat pulling a stunt would be too much of an ego hit.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2016, 08:35:24 AM
Its impossible that someone could run such a piss poor campaign. 

Additionally - here is my other belief IF he really wanted to win.  Obviously all his daily verbal diareah is hurting him correct?  So im sure his advisers more than once have said "STFU and take it easy for awhile" to where even as a potted plant in the corner he would be doing better.  But instead he does the opposite and does and says even more crazy shit. 

why? 

he's intentionally keeping his campaign staff very small in important states. 

That alone is enough to make the average person say "WTF"??

Hillary has 14 FL offices in place.   Trump has ONE in sarasota, and it spends most of its time trying to explain his quotes.

A man claiming to be the master of running many multinational firms at once, with experience of 500 companies... and he cannot manage to set up simple campaign offices, even with the RNC behind him.  They've ALREADY given him more support and dollars than they gave Romney.  Think on that, anyone who doubts trump is tanking this.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: iwantmass on August 15, 2016, 09:09:35 AM
Proof without evidence isn't proof.  It's just whining and CT.  

"It's only proof if you want it to be".  Otherwise it is just speculation.

So just a completely blind and biased, and a liar on top of it.  Lack of conviction doesn't mean lack of evidence.  Once again, you've got to be one of the stupidest posters on this forum.

You have to be the only person left denying lack of evidence.   Do you even watch the news?

I'm glad you found nothing suspect with Bill meeting lynch in the absurd fashion previously mentioned.  That defintion seems like something that clean upstanding people do, but we are talking about the person that took at least one ride to orgy island, with his known friend the pedophile. 

You imply that a person isn't allowed to call out dirty politics and corruption unless there is a convinction, otherwise it's whining.  That is completely idiotic as are most of your points.  I'm glad you think the justice system works perfectly and always gets it right
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 15, 2016, 12:27:26 PM
Please post the transcription of Bill and Lynch's meeting.   Either it contains the smoking gun "proof" that you claim or not.  Might be nothing more than a conversation about next seasons GoT series.  Who knows?  You certainly don't.  But don't let that stop your CT speculation. 

Stupid?  Says the person attempting to turn speculation into proof.  Good job.  Keep trying.  I am sure you can send all your notes to the GOP and they can really get a charge/indictment/treason on Clinton this time.   ::)

May want to learn the difference between "conviction" and "proof" there buddy.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: iwantmass on August 15, 2016, 12:49:54 PM
Please post the transcription of Bill and Lynch's meeting.   Either it contains the smoking gun "proof" that you claim or not.  Might be nothing more than a conversation about next seasons GoT series.  Who knows?  You certainly don't.  But don't let that stop your CT speculation.  

Stupid?  Says the person attempting to turn speculation into proof.  Good job.  Keep trying.  I am sure you can send all your notes to the GOP and they can really get a charge/indictment/treason on Clinton this time.   ::)

May want to learn the difference between "conviction" and "proof" there buddy.

If you want to act as if it was sheer coincidence they met, have at it.  We don't know what there meeting Contained because Loretta Lynch chose not to talk about it in front of Congress.  Though you wouldn't know that, because you don't actually watch the news.  

I'm calling you stupid, because no sane person would claim to believe the enormous amounts of coincidence necessary for that and meeting to occur.  What's more, Loretta Lynch had to be ambushed by a reporter to admit to it

I don't think you know what CT speculation. Is.  Claiming the Clinton's had numerous acquaintances killed throughout the years is CT speculation.  Being honest enough to call a private meeting between the head of the DOJ and bill clinton suspect, a week before hillary's trial is not . That is called the application of common sense.

I suppose appointing an unqualified person to a high cabinet position, only to find out this person is a multi million dollar donor is not odd either.  That's funnny, because per the emails, most of hillary's staff asked what the fuck was going on, and said unqualified person stepped down a month later.  

We could go on and on here with plenty of examples, but you would require hillary submit a signed statement, admitting to all of her corruption.  Nothing short will satisfy you.  You will ignore and evade just like you did with bills association with a known pedophile on the very island that the pedophile committed his sexual crimes.  Not to mention the witnesses that place bill there....there word wouldn't be proof for you, because bill denied it

I know the difference between conviction and proof just fine. So does wiki links, which is why you liberals are having a meltdown over their email hack releases.  So does the fbi, which blasted hillary as much as he could during his testimony

People are under no requirement to provide a smoking gun to suspect a criminal of a crime. Only complete idiots on message boards, that present themselves as a faux intellectuals, require such stupidity

By your logic, oj Simpson didn't kill his wife, because the court let him off.  So anyone that complains about that travesty of justice is a whiner, up to and including nicole brown's family....
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 15, 2016, 12:58:02 PM
Meltdown!

"Lack of conviction doesn't mean lack of evidence."   LOL!!!   Just the opposite of how religion works. 

"We don't know what there meeting Contained"  No, you don't.  So let the speculation begin. 

"People are under no requirement to provide a smoking gun to suspect a criminal of a crime."  Of course not, that is what speculation is for.  Suspicion and speculation do not equate into proof.  You can suspect all you want.  Doesn't mean a damn thing without evidence or proof. 

"I'm glad you think the justice system works perfectly and always gets it right "  I'm glad you think the justice system should work based on speculation, suspicion, and fantasies and not evidence and proof before someone is convicted.

And you actually call someone else stupid.   HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  Carry on twit.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: iwantmass on August 15, 2016, 01:30:13 PM
Meltdown!

"Lack of conviction doesn't mean lack of evidence."   LOL!!!   Just the opposite of how religion works. 

"We don't know what there meeting Contained"  No, you don't.  So let the speculation begin. 

"People are under no requirement to provide a smoking gun to suspect a criminal of a crime."  Of course not, that is what speculation is for.  Suspicion and speculation do not equate into proof.  You can suspect all you want.  Doesn't mean a damn thing without evidence or proof. 

"I'm glad you think the justice system works perfectly and always gets it right "  I'm glad you think the justice system should work based on speculation, suspicion, and fantasies and not evidence and proof before someone is convicted.

And you actually call someone else stupid.   HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  Carry on twit.

Look at our 2 very different posts history.  There is never a fear of you making me meltdown.  You are the most blind liberal on this forum, and never apply an ounce of honesty/logic to your arguments

I don't know what religion has to do with me, or how you disproved that statement.

I don't know what their meeting contained, and when Loretta Lynch had a chance to talk about it, she refused to under testimony.  I'm not dishonest enough, as you are, to claim the circumstances are highly unusual, given the time line.

Normal non-political people are committed of crime all the time, minus a smoking gun.  I don' think you know what term means, so stop using it. 

The FBI interview provided proof of a crime committed, to which Comey voiced that he couldn't prove intent.  Intent is not necessary for the commission of a crime.  What she did in the context of her email case was worthy of a crime and intent wouldn't be necessary under any other circumstance with any non-political person.

I will continue to call you stupid, because you don't rely on facts.  You just blindly knee pad liberal talking points.  We can discuss the Comey interview in detail, if you like, or the lorreta lynch one.  I watched both in their entirety.  Did you?  We can also talk about things like bill's time on orgy island, that you've ignored for the 3rd time now.  We could also talk about the millionaire donor that you also chose to ignore.   Many more things.  As i said, you are an idiot and will always be an idiot. 
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2016, 01:52:07 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-lose_us_57b2033de4b007c36e4f91f2?section=&

 >:(
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2016, 01:57:20 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-lose_us_57b2033de4b007c36e4f91f2?section=&

 >:(

Someone please refute these point by point.   This whole thing is a scam
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 15, 2016, 02:05:30 PM
Someone please refute these point by point.   This whole thing is a scam

He is already planning his exit excuses.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2016, 02:35:12 PM
He is already planning his exit excuses.

I keep forgetting, you're a "dem plant" CTer as well.

I wonder how many other getbiggers feel the same way?
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 15, 2016, 04:08:10 PM
I keep forgetting, you're a "dem plant" CTer as well.

I wonder how many other getbiggers feel the same way?

Only the smart ones.   ;D

I think you and I were the first ones to suggest he only entered the primary to help Clinton in the long haul.  SC was still gone there.

Now here we are.... looking more like it every day.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Dos Equis on August 15, 2016, 04:12:17 PM
Someone please refute these point by point.   This whole thing is a scam

What is there to refute?  He isn't doing anything differently than what he did during the primary.  Much of what he did was unconventional.  Most candidates who ran a campaign a fraction of the way he did would have never sniffed the nomination.  He didn't spend money, he was not on the ground in many places, he didn't run ads, he said some of the most outrageous things we've ever heard from a presidential candidate, he was uninformed.  And he still won.  

I still maintain Hillary is the likely winner, but something very different is happening.  Strange times.  

That said, this "Trump is a plant" stuff is looney conspiracy theory nonsense.  
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2016, 04:58:02 PM
That said, this "Trump is a plant" stuff is looney conspiracy theory nonsense. 

Eh, a lot of things that used to be called conspiracy theories are coming true these days. 

You gotta think about WHY Trump didn't do all of these things that are normally done.  He had all the right people, he has massive RNC support - yet he doesn't bother, huh? 

Trump gets shit done in the real world.  I have a hard time believing he suddenly becomes this major roadblock for the regular campaign people doing their regular campaign tasks, out of incompetence.   It's a little too convenient every time he steps in shit verbally every time Clinton has a big scandal pop up...
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 15, 2016, 05:33:12 PM
If trump entered a BB show andbdidntntraom at all for it -!would people says his training methods were unconventional?   No!   They would blast him for wasting everyone's time including his own.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Dos Equis on August 15, 2016, 05:48:04 PM
If trump entered a BB show andbdidntntraom at all for it -!would people says his training methods were unconventional?   No!   They would blast him for wasting everyone's time including his own.

Unless there were only two people in his class and the other competitor looked worse than him.   :)
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 16, 2016, 05:23:58 AM
Unless there were only two people in his class and the other competitor looked worse than him.   :)

Well that pretty much sums up the other candidates from the GOP line up this cycle.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 16, 2016, 06:00:17 AM
Unless there were only two people in his class and the other competitor looked worse than him.   :)

So what explains this?  I'm all ears. 

If someone SAYS they want to lose weight - advice and suggestions are common -  eat less, exercise more, seek counseling, make better food choices, get rid of the cakes and twinkies in the houise, etc right?  Lets say the same advice is given by almost everyone who is an expert in weight loss to said person?  Said person has never been fit before and always been the happy fat guy type.   

And said person insists he is trying hard while gorging himself in twinkies and not only not losing weight - but gaining weight!  What would you say?  1) The person is a liar that he is trying 2) He was not serious in the first place and not even trying 3) Is mentally incapable and ill and needs medical assistance and intervention 4) Doesnt give a F whatsoever or 5) a combo of all the above right?   


That is where we are with Trump.   He has been told exactly what to do IF he wanted and wants to win over and over.  And instead he always does the exact opposite correct?  Why?     
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: andreisdaman on August 16, 2016, 06:23:47 AM
So what explains this?  I'm all ears. 

If someone SAYS they want to lose weight - advice and suggestions are common -  eat less, exercise more, seek counseling, make better food choices, get rid of the cakes and twinkies in the houise, etc right?  Lets say the same advice is given by almost everyone who is an expert in weight loss to said person?  Said person has never been fit before and always been the happy fat guy type.   

And said person insists he is trying hard while gorging himself in twinkies and not only not losing weight - but gaining weight!  What would you say?  1) The person is a liar that he is trying 2) He was not serious in the first place and not even trying 3) Is mentally incapable and ill and needs medical assistance and intervention 4) Doesnt give a F whatsoever or 5) a combo of all the above right?   


That is where we are with Trump.   He has been told exactly what to do IF he wanted and wants to win over and over.  And instead he always does the exact opposite correct?  Why?     

I respect the fact that you admitted you were totally duped by Trump a few years ago when he lied about having sent investigators to Hawaii and that they discovered some amazing things about Obama's birth certificate......I kinda believed him as well because I couldn't imagine a guy getting up in front of national news and telling such an audacious bold faced lie....BUT HE DID

That right there was the warning sign that no one paid attention to which indicated how narcissistic and crazy Trump truly is
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Dos Equis on August 16, 2016, 12:05:59 PM
Well that pretty much sums up the other candidates from the GOP line up this cycle.

Does it sum up Hillary and the duds who ran against her?  (Webb excluded.) 
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 16, 2016, 01:08:22 PM
Does it sum up Hillary and the duds who ran against her?  (Webb excluded.) 

She only had one serious contender.  The GOP offered 16 other ones as an alternative to what they are stuck with now. 
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Dos Equis on August 16, 2016, 01:13:03 PM
She only had one serious contender.  The GOP offered 16 other ones as an alternative to what they are stuck with now. 

Her serious contender is an admitted socialist.  An absolute dud.     
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 16, 2016, 01:15:38 PM
Her serious contender is an admitted socialist.  An absolute dud.     

Democrats are more into the cult worship type thing.  This was going to be a coronation from Day 1.  The fact that (Weekend @) Bernie did so good is testement to the Potemkin Village that is the Democrat Party and Hillary in general its pathetic.  Like a group of addicts meeting for a weekly retreat in the Catskills to do Yoga and worship a painted rock.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Dos Equis on August 16, 2016, 01:21:23 PM
Democrats are more into the cult worship type thing.  This was going to be a coronation from Day 1.  The fact that (Weekend @) Bernie did so good is testement to the Potemkin Village that is the Democrat Party and Hillary in general its pathetic.  Like a group of addicts meeting for a weekly retreat in the Catskills to do Yoga and worship a painted rock.

I agree.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: LurkerNoMore on August 16, 2016, 02:24:36 PM
Her serious contender is an admitted socialist.  An absolute dud.     

No argument from me on this.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 16, 2016, 02:36:07 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/fundraising/291503-trump-campaign-apparently-soliciting-foreign-cash-despite-warnings



 >:(
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: 240 is Back on August 16, 2016, 03:16:18 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/fundraising/291503-trump-campaign-apparently-soliciting-foreign-cash-despite-warnings



 >:(

he's not even using the money he has received.  what, 90 million last month, or some insane amount, after his great campaign speech?

Don't people see it.... the nation WANTS to vote AGAINST hillary.   This trump fella is just trying to lose here.   

Asking for foreign dollars = just trying to get into trouble, for $ you're not even using.  can't wait to see how much of this is going to his own companies and kids on the payroll.
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 16, 2016, 03:18:27 PM
he's not even using the money he has received.  what, 90 million last month, or some insane amount, after his great campaign speech?

Don't people see it.... the nation WANTS to vote AGAINST hillary.   This trump fella is just trying to lose here.   

Asking for foreign dollars = just trying to get into trouble, for $ you're not even using.  can't wait to see how much of this is going to his own companies and kids on the payroll.

Exactly - what did he do w the 90 million!  Where is it?  turn on any channel - its endless ads that are brutal against him.   
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: 240 is Back on September 26, 2016, 08:51:34 PM
He's not learning more about world conflicts.  He's not improving his knowledge.  He's not establishing relationships with these leaders he'll have to face.  Any person actually this inept - who now realizes the nomination is his and he might win the election - would be scared shitless of being exposed as not knowing what a nuclear triad is, or being repeatedly contradictory on US interventionism vs isolationism. 

IF he was actually running, and not in it to pull out last minute and hand it to Hilary, he'd be terrified.  He'd be becoming a master of these issues and conflicts and he'd have actual solutions. 

The fact that Trump is still using the same vague phrases, and hasn't been reading WIKI cliffs notes on every conflict in US history, meeting world leaders...  preparing himself to be the nation's decider when he's never been a legislator before...

it tells me that 100% of his role is to RUN - and not actually DO THE JOB of president.  Palin was getting schooled daily on these topics, and she was an actual governor.  Demanding more torture and saying you'll steal the oil of a soverign nation are what you say when you're RUNNING - anyone who actually believed he'd be president would never draw those lines in the sand and really, sully their presidential legacy like that.

He'll run, he'll bail, Hilary will coast in, and we'll have 8 years of democrat run, delivered by a man paid $250 mil by NBC who was a very public lifetime liberal for 62 years,

Six months later, not a thing has changed.

Trump is still unprepared, and didn't know any more about the issues than he knew in April.

If he's not trying to lose, then he stole the playbook for a guy trying to lose, and he's following it to a tee. 
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 27, 2016, 06:24:56 PM
Six months later, not a thing has changed.

Trump is still unprepared, and didn't know any more about the issues than he knew in April.

If he's not trying to lose, then he stole the playbook for a guy trying to lose, and he's following it to a tee. 

Very sad how ill prepared he was.   Didn't even bring up Bemghazi or Obamacare.   Or her scandals etc
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: 240 is Back on September 27, 2016, 06:55:56 PM
Very sad how ill prepared he was.   Didn't even bring up Bemghazi or Obamacare.   Or her scandals etc

He was dropping them off the top of his head - every day - for a year.

I just CANNOT believe he was SO DAMN GOOD against Jeb, Cruz, Rand... I mean, he was dropping clever comments left and right, pointing out benghazi and the wall and her emails...

BUT last night, he suddenly clams up, and talks about ROSIE instead of hilary's many issues?   

I just can't believe that is 'ill preparation', Soul Crusher.   I think - if his strategy was indeed to tank - then his plan was to get this monster ratings debate, and use this moment to hand it to hillary.   WHich is essentially what he did.  Get the good footage early on, then just STFU and let her shine - which he certainly did.  She was cocky as hell during the second half. 
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: Soul Crusher on September 28, 2016, 05:22:46 AM
He was dropping them off the top of his head - every day - for a year.

I just CANNOT believe he was SO DAMN GOOD against Jeb, Cruz, Rand... I mean, he was dropping clever comments left and right, pointing out benghazi and the wall and her emails...

BUT last night, he suddenly clams up, and talks about ROSIE instead of hilary's many issues?   

I just can't believe that is 'ill preparation', Soul Crusher.   I think - if his strategy was indeed to tank - then his plan was to get this monster ratings debate, and use this moment to hand it to hillary.   WHich is essentially what he did.  Get the good footage early on, then just STFU and let her shine - which he certainly did.  She was cocky as hell during the second half. 


I turned it off about 30 minutes in i was getting so sick of him mailing it in and her arrogant smug disgusting face. 
Title: Re: The #1 reason I believe Trump is a dem plant
Post by: 240 is Back on September 28, 2016, 05:59:56 AM

I turned it off about 30 minutes in i was getting so sick of him mailing it in and her arrogant smug disgusting face. 

oh it got WAY worse in the last 45 minutes.

He kept going to little trivial shit, never hitting her on benghazi, emails, or other major issues.

THEN he went on fox news and extended the life of a story that really hurt him, the miss piggy thing.