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Re: IroNat
« Reply #350 on: July 15, 2019, 04:22:30 AM »
Very nice pool.

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« Reply #351 on: July 15, 2019, 08:19:57 AM »
7/15/19

Deadlift - 10,8,6,3x3
Wide lat pulldowns - 4x8-12
Dumbbell rows - 4x12
Grip stuff

*Need to get back to doing some cardio a few times per week. 

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« Reply #352 on: July 16, 2019, 07:16:37 AM »
7/16/19

Standing barbell press - 12,8,6,6,6

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Did these out in the garage this morning.  HOT.
Was going to do more seated presses down in the basement gym but bagged it.

Later...

Seated barbell presses from forehead - 4x5



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« Reply #353 on: July 17, 2019, 07:30:18 AM »
7/17/19

30 minutes walking on treadmill.

Met no one on the journey and was not chased by any dogs.

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« Reply #354 on: July 17, 2019, 02:06:13 PM »
I remember different places I trained where I couldn't press over head. Seated was the way when I was a teenager living at home with a low basement ceiling. Got some great delt workouts doing that.

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« Reply #355 on: July 19, 2019, 03:27:12 AM »
7/18/19

30 minutes walking on treadmill at 3 mph which seems like a rapid walk to me.

My knees have been sore but it didn't bother me.

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« Reply #356 on: July 19, 2019, 07:27:51 AM »
7/19/19

Standing calf raises - 3x12-16
Back squats - 12,8,6,4,2x3
Leg curls - 3x8-12
Bench press - 12,8,6,4,2
Z press - 4x8-10
Barbell curls - 4x10-12
Band pull aparts - 4xMax reps
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« Reply #357 on: July 21, 2019, 09:53:42 AM »
7/21/19

Cleans - 2's going up 10 lbs/set to a top set then on to...

Deadlifts - 3's going up 10 lbs/set to a top set

alternating the above with sets of the following presses:

1) Behind neck presses - 3's going up 10 lbs/set to a top set
then...

2) Bench press - 3's going up 10 lbs/set to a top set

Seated calf raises - 3 sets
Grip stuff

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« Reply #358 on: July 21, 2019, 06:50:21 PM »
Thinking about going back to cleans instead of the deadlift. I hate to continue on the path of explaining injuries but a life time of athletics and lifting have left their mark. I have a lot of trouble racking the weight.  My left elbow won't fully bend and my right shoulder is a mess. I love the attributes the power cleans gives. I swear in just three weekly sessions my vertical leap and sprinting speed improves from this one lift. It improves explosive power and that's important in so many athletics endeavors.

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« Reply #359 on: July 22, 2019, 03:52:19 AM »
Thinking about going back to cleans instead of the deadlift. I hate to continue on the path of explaining injuries but a life time of athletics and lifting have left their mark. I have a lot of trouble racking the weight.  My left elbow won't fully bend and my right shoulder is a mess. I love the attributes the power cleans gives. I swear in just three weekly sessions my vertical leap and sprinting speed improves from this one lift. It improves explosive power and that's important in so many athletics endeavors.

Well, deadlifting heavy is very fatiguing for the back for sure.  Eddie Hall deadlifts heavy every other week.  The in-between week he still does deadlifts but light.  

Wrist flexibility comes into play for cleans for me too.  When the weight gets heavy my wrists become painful when catching the weight.  I stretch my wrists a bit before each set.  

It's usually recommended to keep reps low for cleans as it is a technical lift.  I think this is best.  Doing only a rep or two or three gives the wrists a break.
Logically this means more sets need to be done.

Front squatting for higher reps aggravates my wrists.  However, 2 rep sets are manageable.

I had a back problem.  I could feel some shifting in my discs at times when rolling over in bed or bending over. Scary!  Deadlifting in particular seemed to aggravate this.  I think it came from butt winking while squatting deep a couple years ago.  Then it was always there.  A real problem for me and I thought it to be a permanent condition.  

I realized recently this back problem disappeared!  I can only attribute this healing to doing cleans.  Better than a chiropractor.

Like you, I have a bunch of other aches and pains but at least this one seems to have gone away.




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« Reply #360 on: July 22, 2019, 01:29:43 PM »
I fully can understand the power clean being good for the back. It's an athletic lift done with power instead of grinding slow strength like a deadlift.  We have to find what works for us as we age. I heard a guy write in Ironman that he felt the squat was both effecting his knees and causing back problems. He now uses dumbbell squats. Led me down the path to explore this seldom used movement. I found it one of the hardest best movements. Most guys think it's joke because after all they do their sets with a 315lbs barbell how are they going to find heavy enough dumbbells. In actuality the example I used would have a tough time with 120lbs dumbbells. Different movement. Upright back and sinking the butt down makes it really hard.

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« Reply #361 on: July 23, 2019, 07:54:36 AM »
7/23/19

Back squats - 3's going up 10 lbs/set to a top set...superset with...Seated dumbbell presses (no back support) - 3's with the same weight each set

then...

Standing calf raises - 3 sets max reps

Bench press - 3's going up 10 lbs/set to a top set...superset with...Wide lat pulldowns - 5x8-12

Grip stuff

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« Reply #362 on: July 26, 2019, 08:21:16 AM »
7/26/19

Standing calf raises - 3 sets

Hack squats with barbell - 3's going up 10 lbs/set to a top set...superset with...Seated barbell press from forehead (no back support) - 3's going up 10 lbs/set to a top set.

then...

Bench press - 3's going up 10 lbs/set to a top set...superset with...Close grip lat pulldowns - 5x8-12

Barbell curls - 1 set max reps

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« Reply #363 on: July 28, 2019, 10:02:47 AM »
7/28/19

Power cleans - 3's to a top set
Bench press - 3's to a top set
Jefferson lift - 3's to a top set
Seated db presses (no back support) - 3x12
Reverse grip lat pulldowns - 3x8-12
Close grip curls - 3x8-12
Seated calf raises - 3 sets


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Re: IroNat
« Reply #364 on: July 28, 2019, 10:10:11 AM »
Good stuff, IroNat!  I had to take another week off but will be back training again tomorrow!

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« Reply #365 on: July 28, 2019, 11:22:22 AM »
Good stuff, IroNat!  I had to take another week off but will be back training again tomorrow!

Thanks brother Scott!

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« Reply #366 on: July 28, 2019, 11:26:50 AM »
My left knee has been bothering me for a couple months.  Back in May it was acting up.

Not sure why but probably twisted it.  Can't recall.  Inside of left knee.  

Doesn't bother me while training but sore as heck the day after and going up and down stairs.

I'm going to skip squatting for awhile and see if it clears up.  Haven't squatted the last couple workouts and it's noticeably better.

Will still do deadlift type movements and power cleans.


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« Reply #367 on: July 28, 2019, 07:33:29 PM »
My left knee has been bothering me for a couple months.  Back in May it was acting up.

Not sure why but probably twisted it.  Can't recall.  Inside of left knee.  

Doesn't bother me while training but sore as heck the day after and going up and down stairs.

I'm going to skip squatting for awhile and see if it clears up.  Haven't squatted the last couple workouts and it's noticeably better.

Will still do deadlift type movements and power cleans.



Hope your knee gets better. Maybe try other things after a rest like maybe lunges or dumbbell squats. Lunges work great with no weight.

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« Reply #368 on: July 29, 2019, 04:00:40 AM »
Hope you knee gets better. Maybe try other things after a rest like maybe lunges or dumbbell squats. Lunges work great with no weight.

Thanks OT.


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« Reply #369 on: July 29, 2019, 12:18:22 PM »
Thanks OT.



Injuries also affects the mind too. You have the will, work ethic and perseverance to make it happen but the injury tweaks puts a halt to it.

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« Reply #370 on: July 30, 2019, 07:58:58 AM »
7/30/19

Another day, another workout.
Did not push it too hard today on the top sets.

Standing calf raises - 3 sets
Power cleans - 3's going up by 10 lbs a set to a top set
superset with...
Standing db press - 5x3 same weight all sets
then...
Bench press - 3's going up by 10 lbs a set to a top set
Band pull aparts - 3 sets
Close grip curls - 5x8-12
Wrist roller - up and down 3 times each way

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« Reply #371 on: July 30, 2019, 11:18:07 AM »
I can't bring myself to train on weekends. I look forward to doing nothing after the work week. Just got out of the pool. Swimming at night while music played from the the big band era. The shimming lights off the woods really made the night.



Geraniums or begonias? Either way, they look abundant.

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Re: IroNat
« Reply #372 on: August 02, 2019, 08:27:11 AM »
8/2/19

Standing calf raises - 3 sets 12-20 reps
Power cleans - Working up to 3x3
Behind neck press - Working up to 3x3
Bench press - Pyramid to 5x1
Barbell rows - 5x12
Close grip EZ curls - 3x12
Grip stuff

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« Reply #373 on: August 03, 2019, 11:13:50 AM »
8/3/19

Seated press behind neck - worked up to 5x1
Bench press - same
Band pull aparts - 3x10

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« Reply #374 on: August 04, 2019, 08:35:25 AM »
8/4/19

Seated calf raises - 3x12-15
DB clean & press - Pyramid weight to 3x3 then less weight 2x12 presses only
Bench press - Pyramid weight to 3x6
Clean pulls from floor - Pyramid weight to 3x3
Reverse grip lat pulldowns - 3x12-15
Close grip EZ curls - 3x12-15
Grip stuff