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Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« on: July 04, 2022, 01:52:23 PM »

City of Houston condemned my freestanding double garage...Made me have it taken down.

I went by some shed dealers and they told me that if your garden shed is less than 200 square feet...you don't need any permits to build it. 

What do you guys think of the idea of building two garden sheds next to each other and use them for garages?
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Re: Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2022, 01:59:12 PM »
Build a real garage and get permits.
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Re: Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2022, 02:03:43 PM »
yes...but each one smaller than 200 square feet...
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Re: Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2022, 02:06:34 PM »
Why did they condemn your garage?
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Re: Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2022, 02:15:57 PM »
The lot my parent's old house sits on doesn't drain properly any more  (one acre lot...inside the city)...There was a water department well just down the street and the land has subsided some...and the small ditch that previous drained down the side of the lot doesn't drain where the  garage was and so the water after heavy rain slowly  degraded the thing...But the reason listed on the nastygram was the hole in the roof that I never noticed...

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Re: Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2022, 02:18:17 PM »
I'd go talk to the department that deals with this and feel them out about what you can do.
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Re: Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2022, 02:26:42 PM »
The garage is gone...I am going to check...but I have heard from several others that if your planned shed is less than 200 square feet...no permits are needed.  I was thinking of a prefab.
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Re: Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2022, 02:28:50 PM »
Quote from: sync pulse on July 04, 2022, 02:26:42 PM
The garage is gone...I am going to check...but I have heard from several others that if your planned shed is less than 200 square feet...no permits are needed.  I was thinking of a prefab.

In my town you can put up a shed without permits as long as it's not on footers, i.e. not a permanent structure.

Better check with your building dept.
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Re: Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2022, 03:14:32 PM »
What do you want to use the space for?

Storeage? Or are you parking cars inside?

Let that help you make your decision.
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Re: Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2022, 03:21:59 PM »
I believe you can do what you want with two sheds, but i know sometimes they classify things as a total and not separate building space.

Dealing with the City is a major pain in the ass, but there are some helpful people there.

I wouldn't trust the shed dealer, reach out to someone in building permits.

https://www.houstonpermittingcenter.org/
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Re: Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2022, 03:42:24 PM »
Quote from: Dave D on July 04, 2022, 03:14:32 PM
What do you want to use the space for?

Storeage? Or are you parking cars inside?

Let that help you make your decision.

Both...190 square feet is roomy for a vw golf and with lots left over for other things.


and right now I have zero storage space for outdoor equipment (Lawnmowers and the like)
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Re: Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2022, 03:51:53 PM »
Quote from: ThisisOverload on July 04, 2022, 03:21:59 PM
I believe you can do what you want with two sheds, but i know sometimes they classify things as a total and not separate building space.

Dealing with the City is a major pain in the ass, but there are some helpful people there.

I wouldn't trust the shed dealer, reach out to someone in building permits.

https://www.houstonpermittingcenter.org/

A nice clerk at the Neighborhood Department was great with me...He suggested strongly that a local developer wanted to motivate me to sell that lot for cheap...
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Re: Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2022, 03:58:05 PM »
Quote from: sync pulse on July 04, 2022, 03:51:53 PM
A nice clerk at the Neighborhood Department was great with me...He suggested strongly that a local developer wanted to motivate me to sell that lot for cheap...

Is this in the Heights?

I might know that developer. ;D

I worked in residential and commercial land development for 15 years.
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Re: Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2022, 04:10:53 PM »
Quote from: ThisisOverload on July 04, 2022, 03:58:05 PM
Is this in the Heights?

I might know that developer. ;D

I worked in residential and commercial land development for 15 years.

Near Parker Rd and North I45...Not far from Mattress Mack's place...Gentrification is just now setting in...

That conversation with that guy with the city made me decide to never sell to someone who approaches me...
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Re: Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2022, 04:31:00 PM »
Sync pulse be a man dig into clay a good foot n a half set ur 6x4's in there with concrete atleast one at each corner cut roots with sawzall , use treated wood  very simple basic strong enough
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Re: Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2022, 05:57:59 PM »
Leave the slab of the existing garage and rebuild off of that. Save money by not having to pour a new slab, and also not have to worry about any new setbacks on existing lot lines.
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Re: Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2022, 06:02:06 PM »
Quote from: sync pulse on July 04, 2022, 04:10:53 PM
Near Parker Rd and North I45...Not far from Mattress Mack's place...Gentrification is just now setting in...

That conversation with that guy with the city made me decide to never sell to someone who approaches me...

Ahh, I know that area well!

Yeah, there are a lot of developers trying to poach properties.

At least your value is going up.
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Re: Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2022, 12:26:28 AM »
Quote from: Irongrip400 on July 04, 2022, 05:57:59 PM
Leave the slab of the existing garage and rebuild off of that. Save money by not having to pour a new slab, and also not have to worry about any new setbacks on existing lot lines.

There is no slab...the floor of the garage was originally oyster shell...That used to be common close to the Gulf Coast...Anyway the building demolition company hauled almost everything away.
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Re: Old Garage condemned & destroyed.garden shed less than 200sqft no permit needed
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2022, 06:42:08 AM »
Quote from: sync pulse on July 05, 2022, 12:26:28 AM
There is no slab...the floor of the garage was originally oyster shell...That used to be common close to the Gulf Coast...Anyway the building demolition company hauled almost everything away.
mix some concrete very easy boy
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