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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: bhank on April 23, 2024, 05:37:32 AM
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Anyone take this stuff?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/longevity-doctor-shares-no-1-supplement-he-s-been-taking-every-day-to-slow-down-aging-and-how-he-feels-now/ar-AA1iXcxN?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=430b0bafc6104b2d9474a245f9572eed&ei=32
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Anyone take this stuff?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/longevity-doctor-shares-no-1-supplement-he-s-been-taking-every-day-to-slow-down-aging-and-how-he-feels-now/ar-AA1iXcxN?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=430b0bafc6104b2d9474a245f9572eed&ei=32
upped the clen? Hey, Bhanky?
have you looked in to HMB?
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I take it daily if I remember to. Can't feel it but on paper it has a multitude of benefits, health and performance. I mix HMB in my EAA coctail too, costs nothing these days lol.
https://examine.com/supplements/taurine/
Heart, performance, antioxidant and antioxidant booster, cell volume, helps protein synthesis, may be conditionally essential, may calm the CNS, and etc.
My EAA mix is high in ALL the EAAs, not just the BCAAs or the Leucine, then I mix in HMB, Taurine, TMG, Creatine, L-Carnitine, D-Ribose
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upped the clen? Hey, Bhanky?
have you looked in to HMB?
I don't take clen I have told you that a million times not sure why you keep insisting otherwise
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I take it daily if I remember to. Can't feel it but on paper it has a multitude of benefits, health and performance. I mix HMB in my EAA coctail too, costs nothing these days lol.
https://examine.com/supplements/taurine/
Heart, performance, antioxidant and antioxidant booster, cell volume, helps protein synthesis, may be conditionally essential, may calm the CNS, and etc.
So how much do you take when you remember?
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So how much do you take when you remember?
2 grams. Sometimes twice daily. It seems at least 3 grams might be safe indefinitely as per the examine research compilation.
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My EAA mix is high in ALL the EAAs, not just the BCAAs or the Leucine, then I mix in HMB, Taurine, TMG, Creatine, L-Carnitine, D-Ribose
If I was in the US I would by this EAA
https://masupps.com/product/prosynthesis-17/
Or preferably this if it was in
https://masupps.com/product/prosynthesis-build/
I know this thread isn't about EAAs but a lot of guys use these and these products look the best dosed.
Of course his research chems look most interesting lol
https://maresearchchems.net/
It's that fella who writes under the name of Mike Arnold on bb forums
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Anyone take this stuff?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/longevity-doctor-shares-no-1-supplement-he-s-been-taking-every-day-to-slow-down-aging-and-how-he-feels-now/ar-AA1iXcxN?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=430b0bafc6104b2d9474a245f9572eed&ei=32
I take it.
Can't say i feel any difference. Only supps that make me have better something are ZMA and AAKG, sleep and energy/strenght.
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If I was in the US I would by this EAA
https://masupps.com/product/prosynthesis-17/
Or preferably this if it was in
https://masupps.com/product/prosynthesis-build/
I know this thread isn't about EAAs but a lot of guys use these and these products look the best dosed.
Of course his research chems look most interesting lol
https://maresearchchems.net/
It's that fella who writes under the name of Mike Arnold on bb forums
How do the same advertising lines apply to two different products?
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I usually drink one Monster or whatever energy drink I get my hands on before gym and it has anywhere between 500-1000 mg of Taurine .
Stuff definitely gives me some boost .
Gotta look into it then .
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How do the same advertising lines apply to two different products?
I thought about that too. It's the same amino composition but the other added the HMB, HICA, phosphatidic acid, vitamin D etc. His write up is very good but it's just way too involved for the average consumer. But the composition looks very good to me, hopefully it's all in there, I believe the profit margin is much smaller for Mike Arnold. Now I use Jordan Peter's EAA and mix in some of the bells and whistles myself. Now these EAAs will only help marginally if protein intake is high overall but if you're going to use EAAs why not pay a few bucks more to get the best? You look at so e of these other products and it's 50-80% Leucine/BCAAs so obviously especially the lack of tryptophan and methionine should become limiting... if you rely on it to actually replace some whole protein.
HMB is thought of as a joke but it does seem to do something, there's actually some science behind it. It could retard breakdown more than just Leucine, it does stimulate mTor. Just now I saw Muscletech sells a Leucine-Leucine dipetide which they claim is better than regular Leucine, I don't know but I know since MT did it it's going to be in other products too.
I know perfectly well this is all just micromanaging, but I can't help doing it :D
JUST EAT FOOD! LOL
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I take it.
Can't say i feel any difference. Only supps that make me have better something are ZMA and AAKG, sleep and energy/strenght.
Try magnesium glycinate at night for stress relief and deep sleep. Amazed at how well it works.
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Try magnesium glycinate at night for stress relief and deep sleep. Amazed at how well it works.
I did all that sleep stuff - mag glyc, valerian, zinc, theanine, lion's mane, etc......
Then I just stopped all of it - no real difference.
I still supplement the mag glycinate though.
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Try magnesium glycinate at night for stress relief and deep sleep. Amazed at how well it works.
Thanks. It works so well that makes sleepy the day after.
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I did all that sleep stuff - mag glyc, valerian, zinc, theanine, lion's mane, etc......
Then I just stopped all of it - no real difference.
I still supplement the mag glycinate though.
I "cycle" those. Even cannabis (indica) and xanax at times. Things work for a month or so.
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I "cycle" those. Even cannabis (indica) and xanax at times. Things work for a month or so.
Stay away from Xanax, garbage drug.
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Stay away from Xanax, garbage drug.
For sure in the long run. But sometimes benzos are a godsend, when you absolutely can't sleep or are wound up so badly you start to panic. One sleeping drug that can be an absolute nightmare lol, AMBIEN. A freaky drug that almost every big user has them do something stupid, even if just sending stupid texts to everyone. Some are caught deiving the wrong way on the freeway, some have been exonerated of rape because it was due to Ambien induced "sexsomnia"
Ambien is not a benzo yet is just like a very short acting benzo. One psychiatrisrt refused to write me Valium and then when I asked for a z-drug she said, "nah it's the same thing."
I had some freaky things happen too, out driving "while sleeping."
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Thanks. It works so well that makes sleepy the day after.
I never noticed much from the magnesium but on paper the magnesium threonate "Magtein" supposedly gives the most brain penetration. Supposedly almost everyone is deficient in mag so supplements make sense. A multi, then additional mag and d3, makes sense.
Since Covid took me out almost permanently, I have an emergency supply of Zink lol, 100mg a day at the first sign of illness plus the usual vitamin C, some immunitymushrooms, etc. Zink is supposedly basically the only thing shown to reduce the length of the flu. Oh and like at least 5K iu of d3 all the time. I just got tested for d3 and I was far from toxic levels.
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I "cycle" those. Even cannabis (indica) and xanax at times. Things work for a month or so.
Makes sense.
I use it to "reset", stay on it, then stop.
If I end up with sleep issues, restart...etc.
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I thought about that too. It's the same amino composition but the other added the HMB, HICA, phosphatidic acid, vitamin D etc. His write up is very good but it's just way too involved for the average consumer. But the composition looks very good to me, hopefully it's all in there, I believe the profit margin is much smaller for Mike Arnold. Now I use Jordan Peter's EAA and mix in some of the bells and whistles myself. Now these EAAs will only help marginally if protein intake is high overall but if you're going to use EAAs why not pay a few bucks more to get the best? You look at so e of these other products and it's 50-80% Leucine/BCAAs so obviously especially the lack of tryptophan and methionine should become limiting... if you rely on it to actually replace some whole protein.
HMB is thought of as a joke but it does seem to do something, there's actually some science behind it. It could retard breakdown more than just Leucine, it does stimulate mTor. Just now I saw Muscletech sells a Leucine-Leucine dipetide which they claim is better than regular Leucine, I don't know but I know since MT did it it's going to be in other products too.
I know perfectly well this is all just micromanaging, but I can't help doing it :D
JUST EAT FOOD! LOL
No I think you have the right idea, supplements are to make up what we miss in food, and there’s a lot.
Also I don’t believe taurine is a naturally occurring substance.
Unless you’re drinking bull urine.
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No I think you have the right idea, supplements are to make up what we miss in food, and there’s a lot.
Also I don’t believe taurine is a naturally occurring substance.
Unless you’re drinking bull urine.
No taurine is very abundant in the body.
As always, examine has all the facts.
https://examine.com/supplements/taurine/
I've had heart failure when I had covid so it *might* be especially good for me, along with d-ribose, which is also "fuel" for the heart.
I don't know what data those Red Bull formulators went by back then, some thought it was weird that they put that in there, a sort of nervous system depressant, but all the energy drinks have, although it's hard to determine if it's doing much at those dosages. When energy drinks became more popular here the authorities and docs suspected taurine was causing heart problems in users as they were showing up in hospitals complaining of various symptoms. But it was just caffeine overdoses, or Vodka/Redbull overdoses. It hasn't been banned because there's no data showing damage.
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No, but I've heard good things about it.
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has anyone consulted vigorous Steve or AJ about it?
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Yes, it stopped by awful back pumps
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I only take bio-identical Taurine......anything less would be uncivilized.
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What’s the deeeeal with taurine?
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What’s the deeeeal with taurine?
Depending up spelling (Taurine, Tayrine, TaTaarine, Toyrinia, Toeringe, etc.) I think it's the top name so far this year for black babies.
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Depending up spelling (Taurine, Tayrine, TaTaarine, Toyrinia, Toeringe, etc.) I think it's the top name so far this year for black babies.
We had a black kid at my high school named Taurean. He loved the white wimmens. True story!
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Depending up spelling (Taurine, Tayrine, TaTaarine, Toyrinia, Toeringe, etc.) I think it's the top name so far this year for black babies.
Dude !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111 LOL ;D
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No taurine is very abundant in the body.
As always, examine has all the facts.
https://examine.com/supplements/taurine/
I've had heart failure when I had covid so it *might* be especially good for me, along with d-ribose, which is also "fuel" for the heart.
I don't know what data those Red Bull formulators went by back then, some thought it was weird that they put that in there, a sort of nervous system depressant, but all the energy drinks have, although it's hard to determine if it's doing much at those dosages. When energy drinks became more popular here the authorities and docs suspected taurine was causing heart problems in users as they were showing up in hospitals complaining of various symptoms. But it was just caffeine overdoses, or Vodka/Redbull overdoses. It hasn't been banned because there's no data showing damage.
Van you just blew my mind. For the better part of the last 20 years I’ve thought taurine was an animal waste byproduct…..
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Try magnesium glycinate at night for stress relief and deep sleep. Amazed at how well it works.
Noted. Perked up reading that since I'll try anything for good sleep. Thx.
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Van you just blew my mind. For the better part of the last 20 years I’ve thought taurine was an animal waste byproduct…..
Yeah I think it's essential for cats as it's in all cat food lol. I think it's essential for humans too, only humans bodies can manufacture it, so not classed as essential (to get from the outside). But that Arnold fella said some researchers have called for reclassification. And of course some nutrients are called "conditionally" essential, there may be instances where you need more than the body is capable of producing. It's supposed to be so good for so many things, even as a kidney protectant, so I just throw it in there from time to time since it's so cheap.
For juicers there are some natural supps that can be very beneficial in my opinion. Like Astragalus for the kidneys (number one worry for bodybuilders, not the liver, kidneys), nattokinase for potential blood clotting issues worsened by anabolics, milk thistle and tauroursodesoxycholic acid for the liver, NAC, acetyl-l-glutathione for improved levels of the "master antioxidant" of the body (anabolics can damage the kidneys and other parts, like brain, through excessive redox) and on and on. I know we joke about pro bbers taking their kidneys and heart and liver supps but they will not hurt at least.
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Noted. Perked up reading that since I'll try anything for good sleep. Thx.
Number one sleeping drug currently in Sweden is mirtazapine. I have an Rx. I sometimes took a mirta with my Vyvance amphetamine in the morning and was falling asleep on the bus, you know that painful type of sleepiness that hurts lol. Mirta isn't a sleeping pill per se, it's an antidepressant, but docs really push this one now for sleep. Great for appetite and for reducing nausea as well, many hate it because they put on so much weight on it.
It's most likely much healthier than Xanax. You just need like 7.5-15mg - I have 45mg tablets but I break them up.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4a4ImmCRVi/?igsh=MWFya3U5bmtweWd0dg==
Best sleep stack for me lol
Mirtazapine, Anadrol plus carb "backloading." Take those with say 100 grams of maltodextrin an hour or more before sleep.
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We had a black kid at my high school named Taurean. He loved the white wimmens. True story!
Did they love him?
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Number one sleeping drug currently in Sweden is mirtazapine. I have an Rx. I sometimes took a mirta with my Vyvance amphetamine in the morning and was falling asleep on the bus, you know that painful type of sleepiness that hurts lol. Mirta isn't a sleeping pill per se, it's an antidepressant, but docs really push this one now for sleep. Great for appetite and for reducing nausea as well, many hate it because they put on so much weight on it.
It's most likely much healthier than Xanax. You just need like 7.5-15mg - I have 45mg tablets but I break them up.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4a4ImmCRVi/?igsh=MWFya3U5bmtweWd0dg==
Best sleep stack for me lol
Mirtazapine, Anadrol plus carb "backloading." Take those with say 100 grams of maltodextrin an hour or more before sleep.
I have thousands of mirtazapines, quetiapine, zopiclones, phenegrams, but alternate them with natural sleep as not to build up tolerance to any one product. I have to say, when I drop a 25mg short acting quetiapine, rather than the 100mg or 300mg versions, I conk out and it's lights out for a good 8 hours on that stuff. Hard to find something that takes me from 7/10 alertness to 0 and needing to wrap the blanket over me before I pass out. Quetiapine is great for that but it's only as good as a 3 or 4 night take before your body gets used to it. Had a problem with zopiclones years ago and learned the hard way what it's like coming off z drugs. Like your own personal hell.
You mentioned benzos, but I never really got the appeal. Used to have diazepam prescribed when I was working hardcore but didn't really enjoy or find they made a difference.
Mirtazies are way too drowsy the next day for my liking, but maybe that's just me and it works for you easier. You seem to know your stuff. BTW, there's a whole plethora of hardcore psychiatric level sleeping tablets out there that are rarely on the black market. Do they still even get prescribed for "normies" or are they limited to psych hospitals? Getting hold of them either due to low demand or whatever reason seems to be difficult
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Number one sleeping drug currently in Sweden is mirtazapine. I have an Rx. I sometimes took a mirta with my Vyvance amphetamine in the morning and was falling asleep on the bus, you know that painful type of sleepiness that hurts lol. Mirta isn't a sleeping pill per se, it's an antidepressant, but docs really push this one now for sleep. Great for appetite and for reducing nausea as well, many hate it because they put on so much weight on it.
It's most likely much healthier than Xanax. You just need like 7.5-15mg - I have 45mg tablets but I break them up.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4a4ImmCRVi/?igsh=MWFya3U5bmtweWd0dg==
Best sleep stack for me lol
Mirtazapine, Anadrol plus carb "backloading." Take those with say 100 grams of maltodextrin an hour or more before sleep.
How groggy does it make one in the morning?
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How groggy does it make one in the morning?
This is precisely why I don't take them often. They're not my thing for the morning. For all its tolerance problems, zopiclone was ideal for a good rise the next morning. A great refreshing wakeup. Whereas mirtazapine felt like a dirty unstable walk to the bathroom and even a coffee hit did little to override it. 25mg quetiapine was also perfect for a nice wakeup but not the long acting 100mg or 300mg. Only the 25s seemed to work for a quick wakeup.
Your body may react differently but I definitely had a woozy morning on mirtazapine
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How groggy does it make one in the morning?
It can be a problem. Maybe many take too much as well. It was said, at least in the past, a low dose made you tired whereas a high dose made you energetic as then other neuotransmitters like adrenaline became involved. Early today I took a whole 45mg tab because I couldn't dleep at night and was planning on training but woke up at 21.30 PM and felt like I could have slept til morning. Only way to know is by trying, like I said even 7.5mg can work though the lowest dose tablet here is a 15mg unscored one. You might also take it several hours before sleep so it hopefully washes out more by morning. It's good because it's not addictive per se and not dangerous, might perk up your mood and every doc will write an Rx for it, unlike the z-drugs or benzos.
Regarding the quatipine that dalnet mentioned, I had it once maybe 25 years ago and can't remember how it worked. There were some serious potential sides plus my impression has been that people on these dopamine blockers/antipsychotics turn into fat zombies. For situational use I doubt this is a worry though.
Z-drugs can be great for falling asleep, but they leave so fast it might wake you up due to mini-withdrawals lol. The short action is why they aren't AS addictive as long acting benzos but may again worsen your mood during the day as you go through that mini-withdrawal and sympathetic rebound. So for me, if I had a very debilitating situation where I absolutely needed to sleep I would take a Valium, mirtazapine a couple of hours before sleep and then a z-drug at bedtime. The z-drugs start working within minutes, in fact it's recommended they be taken when you are already in bed and turned off your phone and laptop, otherwise you might perk up and enjoy the high while sending stupid texts to friends, or even decide to go for take-out food with your car, as happened to me lol. Woke up and had unopened food boxes on my kitchen table and no memory of having done so lol.