Could you beat up a welterweight boxer

[JOHN MATRIX]

no matter how tough they seem on stage they only weigh 140 lbs. could you hulking beefcakes dispose of them? do you think the average 230lb pro bber could beat them up in a street fight? is technique alone enough to make up for 90+ lbs in muscular bodyweight?

[Meso_z]

no matter how tough they seem on stage they only weigh 140 lbs. could you hulking beefcakes dispose of them? do you think the average 230lb pro bber could beat them up in a street fight? is technique alone enough to make up for 90+ lbs in muscular bodyweight?

Depends on the boxer imo. If hes a badass, he can fuck you up.

[ChristopherA]

Depends on the boxer imo. If hes a badass, he can fuck you up.

Bingo!! Size gives to many people the illusion of toughness

[smoothasf]

Depends how  open you fight. if you can get a hold of him you've won

[_bruce_]

Never ever - boxer comes in at blazing speed and before you can react you got hit a good 5 times.
Time to go to sleep.

[purenaturalstrength]

depends on the personality of the bodybuilder and his experiences in life


a guy like phil heath for example seems like he wouldn't even know how to make a fist

a pissed off kai greene on the other hand...

just me assuming kai greene is tougher and more violent since he's from the ghetto


 

it would require the fearlessness and aggression to eat a punch or two and be able to get a hold of the boxer and manage to get on top of him

then kai would be able to murder him

circling around in boxing range lol another story


i don't know much about fighting tho, just thinking out loud

[ChevChelios]

Ronnie Coleman or mR president Yates would squash that tiny little bug in pieces 

[seCrawler]

no matter how tough they seem on stage they only weigh 140 lbs. could you hulking beefcakes dispose of them? do you think the average 230lb pro bber could beat them up in a street fight? is technique alone enough to make up for 90+ lbs in muscular bodyweight?

Lets make this simple.  147 WW Olympic boxer vs NPC 230lb HW = BBer knocked into the next life.  

Lets not bother with a Pro vs a Pro.  Then, this starts to get silly.

[purenaturalstrength]

Lets make this simple.  147 WW Olympic boxer vs NPC 230lb HW = BBer knocked into the next life.  

Lets not bother with a Pro vs a Pro.  Then, this starts to get silly.

really depends how tough the bodybuilder is


some bodybuilders have done some boxing and or have been street thugs or area boys in their former life


like dorian yates was some skin head punk he must know how to handle himself

or ronnie coleman being a cop

or flex wheeler a ninja

[seCrawler]

really depends how tough the bodybuilder is


some bodybuilders have done some boxing and or have been street thugs or area boys in their former life


like dorian yates was some skin head punk he must know how to handle himself

or ronnie coleman being a cop

or flex wheeler a ninja

Cotto or Marg would destroy Ronnie or Yates.

[purenaturalstrength]

Cotto or Marg would destroy Ronnie or Yates.

depends

if it's in a small place and they can't use foot work to evade the bullrush then they will be on their backs screaming for mercy in no time

[Cleanest Natural]

you all must be retarded ... you obviously never been in a ring lol


size means shit ...

[purenaturalstrength]

you all must be retarded ... you obviously never been in a ring lol


size means shit ...

a ring is an artificial controlled setting with plenty of room for footwork and nothing to pick up or fall/trip on


just saying

[Cleanest Natural]

a ring is an artificial controlled setting with plenty of room for footwork and nothing to pick up or fall/trip on


just saying

besides your penchant for teh cock your iq seems quite shallow .. just sayin'

[Kwon_2]

Did you forget what 70 kg Roger "El Matador" Huerta did to 230 lbs NFL-Linebacker Rashad Bobino?

Huerta isn't even a pro-boxer.

Rashad Bobino at 6:14

Roger Huerta


Quite the size-advantage on Bobino in yellow

[purenaturalstrength]

besides your penchant for teh cock your iq seems quite shallow .. just sayin'

if you don't understand a feather weight boxer can become smashed potatoes when squaring off with a pro bodybuilder in a street fight

then you lack the necessary brain power to be insulted so I will not try

[Cleanest Natural]

if you don't understand a feather weight boxer can become smashed potatoes when squaring off with a pro bodybuilder in a street fight

then you lack the necessary brain power to be insulted so I will not try

the only thing lacking here is your testosterone levels hun

[wes]

A good welterweight boxer would dispose of most guys regardless of size,especially if his streetfight game is good also.

[OptimusPrime1980]

you all must be retarded ... you obviously never been in a ring lol


size means shit ...

why do they have weightclasses then??  
size means a lot!
sure a big dude will win from a small dude, IF the big dude knows how to fight a little.
I train mma, and bjj, a lot of guys far better then me, but smaller and lighter have a hard time with me.
And a 150 pound guy does not hit as hard as a 250 pound guy. never ever!
That is the whole reason they have weightclasses, so it is fair.

When you have a big dude that knows 0 about fighting , sure he wil get ko'd by a lighter and skilled fighter....
But if the big dude knows how to fight, the lighter dude is in trouble.
And you do have badasses that never trained in fighting but would kill any mma fighter in the streets!
i know a lot of mma fighters that are big pussies in a streetfight, it's not the same thing.

look at Bob Sapp, he beat Hoost, a world class kickboxer.... why ? SIZE!
Sapp his fight against Noqueira, have you seen that fight? Sapp almost killed him....! Noqueira got him in the end, but he was never the same after that fight.... he got hurt bad! why ?? size!!
k1 champ Semmy Schilt, not a very skilled fighter at all! boring as hell... won the k1 various times, why??? size!!
to say size means shit is stupid....

[Bad Boy Dazza]

It's obvious some of you guys know NOTHING about pro boxers or amateur boxers.  I bet a good small boxer could KO Kai Green and Ronnie Coleman at the same time.

[OptimusPrime1980]

It's obvious some of you guys know NOTHING about pro boxers or amateur boxers.  I bet a good small boxer could KO Kai Green and Ronnie Coleman at the same time.

yes he could, but if ronnie or kai or whomever knew just a little wrestling, and just a little boxing themselfs it's gonna be a different story!!!
WHY DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE WEIGHCLASSES IN MARTIAL ARTS THEN?
and in a streetfight a lot of "martial artist" are pussies!
i got in a fight with a muay thai fighter a few weeks ago, ko'd his ass with one punch....
why? there was no ring, no ref, no rules, and he was a big mouthed bully....
he was my height , a bit smaller... and a lot lighter!!

i have sparred with light guys, and their punches are not that hard! when i train with my heavyweight friends... that hurts! lol!
a heavyweight can end a fight with one punch!  that rarely happens in a lightweight fight....

btw i love boxing! i train boxing and get my ass kicked lol! it's very , very difficult... but to say size means shit is just stupid!
when sparring with the little guys, sure i get hit , a lot! lol...
but i take a few punches, get close, and can take them to the ground... but it's not allowed in boxing...
and also i can destroy their legs with lowkicks, also not allowed in boxing.
when they spar with us they get manhandled... when we have boxing classes they use us as punching bags! lol!
but size means a lot!!!!

[seCrawler]

why do they have weightclasses then??  
size means a lot!
sure a big dude will win from a small dude, IF the big dude knows how to fight a little.
I train mma, and bjj, a lot of guys far better then me, but smaller and lighter have a hard time with me.
And a 150 pound guy does not hit as hard as a 250 pound guy. never ever!
That is the whole reason they have weightclasses, so it is fair.

When you have a big dude that knows 0 about fighting , sure he wil get ko'd by a lighter and skilled fighter....
But if the big dude knows how to fight, the lighter dude is in trouble.
And you do have badasses that never trained in fighting but would kill any mma fighter in the streets!
i know a lot of mma fighters that are big pussies in a streetfight, it's not the same thing.

look at Bob Sapp, he beat Hoost, a world class kickboxer.... why ? SIZE!
Sapp his fight against Noqueira, have you seen that fight? Sapp almost killed him....! Noqueira got him in the end, but he was never the same after that fight.... he got hurt bad! why ?? size!!
k1 champ Semmy Schilt, not a very skilled fighter at all! boring as hell... won the k1 various times, why??? size!!
to say size means shit is stupid....

This isn't about 2 trained professionals, so size matter.  It's about a young Ronnie Coleman 230 or so vs Miguel Cotto, in which Cotto destroys him.  Hand speed, ability to take a punch and sit on a punch, etc, etc, etc.  

[OptimusPrime1980]

This isn't about 2 trained professionals, so size matter.  It's about a young Ronnie Coleman 230 or so vs Miguel Cotto, in which Cotto destroys him.  Hand speed, ability to take a punch and sit on a punch, etc, etc, etc.  

have you even read my post???
this isn't about 2 professionals....you say...
well, read my post bro.... i just mentioned that a guy that knows 0 about fighting will get ko'd by a trained fighter....
just people here say size means shit.... that is stupid....
really a silly discussion .... i am off.... 

[makaveli25]

If yourn't a retard and you have that much weight on someone you should be able to steamrole them. You can eat the first punch or two on top of the head while you do a running bull rush takedown like cock chestner does.

[oldtimer1]

Most bodybuilders are mirror "athletes."  If they weren't they would be in professional sports like the NFL. What do you think would happen if Jay Cutler faced off a Division I third stringer lineman face to face with pads. He would end up on his ass. If he did mangage to stay on his feet he would be winded to the point of having no strength quickly.  

Leave the street fight scenario along for a minute.  Do you really think there is any 250lb pro bodybuilder than could beat a world class 147lb pro boxer in the ring?  If you believe this you have never fought in the ring.  It would be really ugly quickly.  Same for a light weight MMA fighter.