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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2011, 10:26:10 AM »
no matter how tough they seem on stage they only weigh 140 lbs. could you hulking beefcakes dispose of them? do you think the average 230lb pro bber could beat them up in a street fight? is technique alone enough to make up for 90+ lbs in muscular bodyweight?
no, 99 percent of the time a person a trained fighter will beat a non trained fighter.

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #51 on: December 04, 2011, 10:43:22 AM »
I'll take you all on. Who wants to post their exact location?

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2011, 10:45:36 AM »
Depends how  open you fight. if you can get a hold of him you've won
This. When you got a hold he's scrambled eggs....

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2011, 10:46:44 AM »
I'll take you all on. Who wants to post their exact location?
youre a pretty good fighter yourself, Kiwi Killer.

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2011, 10:49:07 AM »
youre a pretty good fighter yourself, Kiwi Killer.

Yes, I'll admit I've monkey stolen the peach out of many a tough situation, big guy.

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2011, 10:53:20 AM »
This. When you got a hold he's scrambled eggs....
I totally  agree  because bodybuilders are known for their cardio and grappling skills .

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2011, 11:20:47 AM »
I totally  agree  because bodybuilders are known for their cardio and grappling skills .

And boxers are known for getting trapped inside of wet paper bags.  ;D

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2011, 11:55:31 AM »
I totally  agree  because bodybuilders are known for their cardio and grappling skills .
And they know the Skull Crusher plus the Widow Maker...

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2011, 11:59:40 AM »
240lbs  HW champion JDS  ''best hands'' in the UFC  vs a 150 lbs  ''C'' level   PRO  welterweight boxer .






who's the black fella? you dont agree that jds has good hands? (not Claiming anything just Asking) a year ago also =)

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2011, 12:00:57 PM »
has nothing to do with size, its about the physical and mental toughness of the person. this is a stupid topic way too many insinuating variables involved here for a straight answer.

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #60 on: December 04, 2011, 12:01:38 PM »
who's the black fella? you dont agree that jds has good hands? (not Claiming anything just Asking) a year ago also =)
This is a boxing match. Thread's about beating up, street fight 'n stuff....

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #61 on: December 04, 2011, 12:02:57 PM »
This is a boxing match. Thread's about beating up, street fight 'n stuff....
Couldnt care less about the stupid thread.. hence why Im asking che's opinion on jds..
And since the comments seems to say the black fella is a olympic boxer but since the black fellas names isn't anywhere and che seemed sure..

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #62 on: December 04, 2011, 12:06:50 PM »
no matter how tough they seem on stage they only weigh 140 lbs. could you hulking beefcakes dispose of them? do you think the average 230lb pro bber could beat them up in a street fight? is technique alone enough to make up for 90+ lbs in muscular bodyweight?

No.

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #63 on: December 04, 2011, 12:08:53 PM »
I'm probably one of the only 'bodybuilders' on here who has boxed recently so I will add my piece. In a ring against a boxer any bodybuilder would be destroyed by a 100lbs less boxer. In a streetfight it could be different

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #64 on: December 04, 2011, 12:14:14 PM »
Couldnt care less about the stupid thread.. hence why Im asking che's opinion on jds..
And since the comments seems to say the black fella is a olympic boxer but since the black fellas names isn't anywhere and che seemed sure..

Erivan Conceição a pro boxer from Brasil also JDS boxing coach

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #65 on: December 04, 2011, 12:52:49 PM »
I'll take you all on. Who wants to post their exact location?

I was waiting for this already on page one :)

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #66 on: December 04, 2011, 12:57:20 PM »
In a ring of course the boxer would win. In the streets it depends on the BB. I know some BB who are some bad ass dudes and will fuck u up in a second and there are others who are pussies.

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #67 on: December 04, 2011, 01:00:49 PM »
 I have no doubt if I was in a full contact mma match  against a pro boxer I would win 8-9 times out of ten I have sparred with pro boxers at the gym unless they have some kinda grappling back ground they have nothing coming. Even then they better have a damn good one. It takes nothing for some one with basic wrestling skills to close the distance on a boxer.  A boxers normal stance tend to be horrible for a real combat. A small person makes it a lot easier to cut off the ring to. I have a little knowledge of fighting boxing to though. I think a heavy weight high school wrestler with state level skills would beat a small pro boxer 7-10 times. No one has ever came from boxing and did well in mma. Not like even mediocre wrestlers. I heavy weight boxer strong boxer presents a lot more problem

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #68 on: December 04, 2011, 01:03:52 PM »

I have sparred with pro boxers at the gym 

I have a little knowledge of fighting boxing to though.


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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #69 on: December 04, 2011, 01:07:07 PM »
why do they have weightclasses then?????  ::) ::) ::)
size means a lot!
sure a big dude will win from a small dude, IF the big dude knows how to fight a little.
I train mma, and bjj, a lot of guys far better then me, but smaller and lighter have a hard time with me.
And a 150 pound guy does not hit as hard as a 250 pound guy. never ever!
That is the whole reason they have weightclasses, so it is fair.

When you have a big dude that knows 0 about fighting , sure he wil get ko'd by a lighter and skilled fighter....
But if the big dude knows how to fight, the lighter dude is in trouble.
And you do have badasses that never trained in fighting but would kill any mma fighter in the streets!
i know a lot of mma fighters that are big pussies in a streetfight, it's not the same thing.

look at Bob Sapp, he beat Hoost, a world class kickboxer.... why ???? SIZE!
Sapp his fight against Noqueira, have you seen that fight? Sapp almost killed him....! Noqueira got him in the end, but he was never the same after that fight.... he got hurt bad! why ?? size!!
k1 champ Semmy Schilt, not a very skilled fighter at all! boring as hell... won the k1 various times, why??? size!!
to say size means shit is stupid....


I agree 100% I have trained in boxing and mma gyms and  my boxing is terrible and my wrestling is half ass but I win a lot more then I lose simply because of strength. I would be more scared to be in an mma match against a ncaa heavy weight wrestler then a proboxer any day not even close. I beat a guy that on tv a he fights around 155 I just man handle him like nothing hes a ufc level fighter to.

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #70 on: December 04, 2011, 01:08:16 PM »
chess315 wanted to say he had been shared some pro boxers cock at the gym,and has a lot of knowledge in doing this.  ::)

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #71 on: December 04, 2011, 01:14:29 PM »
I cant honestly believe people think that size dont matter. It may not if one fighter has zero skill. you dont even have to be well trained to beat up skilled fighters if you have a good size strength advatage. Some people may be terrible athletes so that has to be taken in consideration. boxing is a terrible sport for self defense being way behind any grappling art.  If you want to learn to fight greco roman wrestle dont box lol

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #72 on: December 04, 2011, 01:14:45 PM »
It depends if the BB is on trenbolona

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #73 on: December 04, 2011, 01:18:54 PM »
I cant honestly believe people think that size dont matter. It may not if one fighter has zero skill. you dont even have to be well trained to beat up skilled fighters if you have a good size strength advatage. Some people may be terrible athletes so that has to be taken in consideration. boxing is a terrible sport for self defense being way behind any grappling art.  If you want to learn to fight greco roman wrestle dont box lol

STFU idiot you have not clue what you are talking about.

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Re: Could you beat up a welterweight boxer
« Reply #74 on: December 04, 2011, 01:20:40 PM »
A boxer it the easiest possible match you could have in mma. This has been proven over and over.