Could you beat up a welterweight boxer

[el numero uno]

What do you consider "decent skills"? 1 year traning and sparring? 2 years?

[jude2]

A boxer it the easiest possible match you could have in mma. This has been proven over and over.

This is true. The guys who just start in MMA do much better if they have a good wreslting back ground.

[chess315]

What do you consider "decent skills"? 1 year traning and sparring? 2 years?

if your a good athlete,big and strong and have any wrestling exp   2 weeks would be enough to be in the top 85% of most mma training gyms. if strength dont matter why are fighters always getting busted for steroids? the truth of the matter the boxer would prolly be on steroids themselves

[el numero uno]

if your a good athlete,big and strong and have any wrestling exp   2 weeks would be enough to be in the top 85% of most mma training gyms. if strength dont matter why are fighters always getting busted for steroids? the truth of the matter the boxer would prolly be on steroids themselves

I mean, if you don't have any experience fighting.

[Swede!]

This thread sums up getbig.

One poster say, The professional beats the untrained guy every single time even with a 100 pound difference, but dont compare pro's since its stupid.
Follow up post is : "Why why do they have weightcalsses in MMA if size doesnt matter then?!?!?!?"

[_bruce_]

I have fought the best men from the heavyweight division(WCA, WCW, WFC, CFW) and the only thing that helped against those killing machines was being a getbigger.
Instant win on all levels.

[tbombz]

if a 240lb bodybuilder gets beat up by a 140lb guy, doesnt matter if its floyd mayweather, that bodybuilder is mentally retarded.

[The Wizard of Truth]

if a 240lb bodybuilder gets beat up by a 140lb guy, doesnt matter if its floyd mayweather, that bodybuilder is mentally retarded.

You've obviously never sparred so

[tbombz]

You've obviously never sparred so

    yes, yes i know..  with the right speed, technique, and strategy a field mouse could beat a grizzley bear.. 

[aesthetics]

If yourn't a retard and you have that much weight on someone you should be able to steamrole them. You can eat the first punch or two on top of the head while you do a running bull rush takedown like cock chestner does.

problem is if you run in recklessly like that the welterweight can land a haymaker where you're stepping into the punch, it will seriously wreck your world to take a hit like that on the chin or cheekbone.

but once you get in close and grab him hes done

[The Wizard of Truth]

    yes, yes i know..  with the right speed, technique, and strategy a field mouse could beat a grizzley bear.. 

A 250lb bodybuilders cardio is 99% shit, their reaction times are shit and easy to read

[tbombz]

A 250lb bodybuilders cardio is 99% shit, their reaction times are shit and easy to read

right... a field mouse and a girzzley bear.. just takes some speed and technique.. grizzley bears down for the count... cant expect to beat the mouse.. mouse has been training for the past 20 years.. silly bear

[aesthetics]

if you take a clean direct shot from a 140 pound welterweight, who has trained his punching technique for years, it will knock you out of severely daze you which will lead to you getting knocked out. i don't think it's a fair comparison to make specially since bodybuilders are slow, bloated and can barely walk up stairs without getting winded.

[dyslexic]

These guys spend every breathing moment training for endurance and learning how to hit hard and fast.

I don't care how fucking big you are, if all you are is a stinking bodybuilder, you may as well get out the video cam for youtube because you will be made a total fool of. Your muscles won't help you do shit.

If it's a little boxer, he will have figured out how to take you out before you even get finished admiring your dumbass in the mirror.


If you are a very big bodybuilder who has a boxing or MMA background, it could be a different story, but if you don't take him out right away, he will get you winded and then end you. He probably won't even talk about it because it will NOT have been a challenge for him.


It would be the same as walking up to an old lady and cold-cocking her. BIg deal.

[#1 Klaus fan]

These guys spend every breathing moment training for endurance and learning how to hit hard and fast.

Maybe they should spend more time you know, not being 140 pounds. 

[_bruce_]

if a 240lb bodybuilder gets beat up by a 140lb guy, doesnt matter if its floyd mayweather, that bodybuilder is mentally retarded.

Train with someone who can fight(boxing, wrestling, whatever) - if you don't have a solid background in some sort of contact sports, except being naughty, it's shocking how you get exposed as a "can".
The quickness and whole body strength of some goofy looking dudes can be quite shocking.

[wes]

Train with someone who can fight(boxing, wrestling, whatever) - if you don't have a solid background in some sort of contact sports, except being naughty, it's shocking how you get exposed as a "can".
The quickness and whole body strength of some goofy looking dudes can be quite shocking.

Damn right!!

[jude2]

The BB Andy H says he is 240# and he could kick a 140# boxer ass in a street fight any day. Remeber he benches 600#

[Swede!]

Train with someone who can fight(boxing, wrestling, whatever) - if you don't have a solid background in some sort of contact sports, except being naughty, it's shocking how you get exposed as a "can".
The quickness and whole body strength of some goofy looking dudes can be quite shocking.

Tbombz has trained wrestling. Thats the shocking part.

well, he has dressed up as a wrestler as least

[Shockwave]

right... a field mouse and a girzzley bear.. just takes some speed and technique.. grizzley bears down for the count... cant expect to beat the mouse.. mouse has been training for the past 20 years.. silly bear

Retarded analogy.

A grizzley sure as hell could get beaten by a smaller, faster grizzley, so youre point is mute.
And stupid. No disrespect Tbombz, but its a dumb analogy.

All it takes is 1 punch to knock ANY man out at any time, and boxers train to hit HARD, and FAST.
Hitting hard is more about technique than power. Therefore, again, your point is mute.

If the bodybuilder can get ahold of the little guy, of course hed win.

BUT - He has to get in, and avoid the blows the boxer lands.
If the boxer is able to get any clean shots to the face, the BB is done.

This is not arguable. Doesnt matter how much muscle you have, your chin is still your chin.

(BTW animals dont throw strikes, nor do they know where/how to hit something to knock it out)

[che]

If the boxer is able to get any clean shots to the face, the BB is done.

What do you mean ''if ''    the funny part is that a 240 lbs  BB is usually 5'8''-5'9'' tall  and  a 154lbs like  DLH, P Williams ,Margarito .....etc  are 6'1''-6' 2'' , the fight would be over before it  started .

[Shockwave]

What do you mean ''if ''    the funny part is that a 240 lbs  BB is usually 5'8''-5'9'' tall  and  a 154lbs like  DLH, P Williams ,Margarito .....etc  are 6'1''-6' 2'' , the fight would be over before it  started .

There is always that random chance of failure. Lol.

[Swede!]

What do you mean ''if ''    the funny part is that a 240 lbs  BB is usually 5'8''-5'9'' tall  and  a 154lbs like  DLH, P Williams ,Margarito .....etc  are 6'1''-6' 2'' , the fight would be over before it  started .

how was the boxing fight yesterday?

[che]

how was the boxing fight yesterday?

A  bit boring but it was OK .

[aesthetics]

Retarded analogy.

A grizzley sure as hell could get beaten by a smaller, faster grizzley, so youre point is mute.
And stupid. No disrespect Tbombz, but its a dumb analogy.

All it takes is 1 punch to knock ANY man out at any time, and boxers train to hit HARD, and FAST.
Hitting hard is more about technique than power. Therefore, again, your point is mute.

If the bodybuilder can get ahold of the little guy, of course hed win.

BUT - He has to get in, and avoid the blows the boxer lands.
If the boxer is able to get any clean shots to the face, the BB is done.

This is not arguable. Doesnt matter how much muscle you have, your chin is still your chin.

(BTW animals dont throw strikes, nor do they know where/how to hit something to knock it out)

grizzle bears also have gotten "beat" by badgers, hence why they don't mess with them