Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting

[LurkerNoMore]

I'm curious about these drug laws Trayvon broke that day.

[240 is Back]

Was that before or after Zimmerman hit himself in the head with his gun to fake his injuries?  Did he also punch himself in the nose?  

Many people suspect he did this AFTER trayvon was dead, and BEFORE police arrived.

[LurkerNoMore]

If I were going to fake an injury I would slam my head against the ground.  Not against the gun.  It would be hard pressed to explain how the gun ended up behind you. 

[dario73]

Many people suspect he did this AFTER trayvon was dead, and BEFORE police arrived.

HEHEHEHEHEHE!!!

That must be some powerful ganja they are smoking.

[240 is Back]

If I were going to fake an injury I would slam my head against the ground.  Not against the gun.  It would be hard pressed to explain how the gun ended up behind you.  

He probably wasn't thinking that clearly.  And throwing himself on the ground would be little obvious.  Was he able to "collect himself" and quickly bash himself in order to create some fast injuries?   I'm sure people have been that shady and weak before.  

It's so weird that the flat concrete ground would make a mark identical to the frame of the gun he just fired, benefiting him a great deal in the self defense claim.  

[LurkerNoMore]

He was thinking clearly enough to get some advice on what to say to the cops when they got there.   

Other than that, he hasn't exactly shown himself to be anything of a brainiac. 

[headhuntersix]

This was a guy who was picked on in High school...joined some half assed neighborhood watch and then confronted a thug who may or may not have kicked the shit out of him, and paid for it.

[LurkerNoMore]

Despite his martial arts training, he still got his ass handed to him.  Instead of shooting the kid, he should have just manned up.. took his ass home... beat his wife or raped his cousin and called it a day.   

[Dos Equis]

Many people suspect he did this AFTER trayvon was dead, and BEFORE police arrived.

Those many people are friggin stupid.

[Archer77]

Many people suspect he did this AFTER trayvon was dead, and BEFORE police arrived.

That's a bit of a stretch. 

[240 is Back]

that's a very very clear U-shape on his back head.

Maybe something else did it.  Does anyone here really think the flat concrete did it?  

It's entirely possible he happened to land on an object with that exact shape.  It's just very fishy.. benefits his case a lot... shaped like the gun which was in his hand right then...

[Archer77]

that's a very very clear U-shape on his back head.

Maybe something else did it.  Does anyone here really think the flat concrete did it?  

It's entirely possible he happened to land on an object with that exact shape.  It's just very fishy.. benefits his case a lot... shaped like the gun which was in his hand right then...

I thought we weren't trying to speculate to much?

[240 is Back]

The theory about wound pattern on head matching his gun perfectly...

Is it stupid because "He seems like the credible, responsible type that woudln't do such a thing"?

OR

"I have a better theory how that injury was incurred?"

[headhuntersix]

I know far to many dudes like this. Pudgy psuedo toughguys with guns. I totally believe in the stand your ground law...would have no problem blowing a douchbag like martin in half with a shotgun...but if he's just walking by, come on. How well is this idiot gonna do in prison. I just had my jeep broken into in my driveway...my wolfpack didn't so much as whimper. Had I caught the assholes I would have had a hard time choosing which weapon to engage them with, but after that would have wacked them all.  The cops that responded said I would have been justified.
Each state is different.....what zimmerman did was look for trouble.

Texas
Established for individual's habitation in 1995 by House Bill 94 and extended to vehicle or workplace effective September 1, 2007 by Senate Bill 378.[17] Senate Bill 378 also "abolishes the duty to retreat if the defendant can show he: (1) had a right to be present at the location where deadly force was used; (2) did not provoke the person against whom deadly force was used; and (3) was not engaged in criminal activity at the time deadly force was used."[18])

[240 is Back]

I thought we weren't trying to speculate to much?

I've said I don't think he broke any law and that he'll be convicted to punish him for being a stupid cowboy that craved trigger time.

However, this image is very interesting... that's his gun.  that' s his injury.  That injury really helps his self-defense claim.

I think at the very least, it's an area worth examining.  

If Trayvon had an injury shaped like an Iced-tea bottle on his head, an iced-tea bottle in his hand and was using this Iced-tea shaped injury to justify him just beating Zimmerman to death - I think we'd all be asking if the injuries might be self-inflicted.

[Archer77]

The theory about wound pattern on head matching his gun perfectly...

Is it stupid because "He seems like the credible, responsible type that woudln't do such a thing"?

OR

"I have a better theory how that injury was incurred?"

Is this going to be used by the defense?  Something can appear like something in certain pics.

[240 is Back]

Is this going to be used by the defense?  Something can appear like something in certain pics.

He might have gotten the injury on the ground.  Very possible.  I'm sure they took pics of the ground and can identify the objects he landed upon.

IF he banged himself hard in the head to "make it look good" - it will throw out the credibility of everything else in his story.  Even if Trayvon punched him first - If he exaggerated his injuries, yikes...

[Jack T. Cross]

Was that before or after Zimmerman hit himself in the head with his gun to fake his injuries?  Did he also punch himself in the nose? 

Not sure what you're getting at, Beach Bum.  I don't know whether he did these things.

[Jack T. Cross]

Guys, if Zimmerman broke a law, it was by creating a dangerous situation that resulted in the death of another person.  That's what he's been charged with, and that's what they're trying to sort out.  It's the point of this entire discussion.

[Shockwave]

Many people suspect he did this AFTER trayvon was dead, and BEFORE police arrived.

Those people are.fucking idiots who have no idea what they're talking about.


That curved line doesn't even begin to look like a trigger guard, for starters, not even getting into the fact that his head is curved and if couldn't possibly leave an impression like that unless his head was flat..

[Dos Equis]

Guys, if Zimmerman broke a law, it was by creating a dangerous situation that resulted in the death of another person.  That's what he's been charged with, and that's what they're trying to sort out.  It's the point of this entire discussion.

He's charged with murder.  He is claiming self defense.  The prosecution has to prove murder and disprove self defense.  There is no evidence of murder and plenty of evidence of self defense. 

But six people will make that determination in the next couple months. 

[240 is Back]

He's charged with murder.  He is claiming self defense.  The prosecution has to prove murder and disprove self defense.  There is no evidence of murder and plenty of evidence of self defense. 

But six people will make that determination in the next couple months. 

therre is no evidence as to which man started the fight.

We know who was carrying a gun and using slurs and leading the pursuit, and who was running away.

but there is ZERO evidence who started the fight.

[Dos Equis]

therre is no evidence as to which man started the fight.

We know who was carrying a gun and using slurs and leading the pursuit, and who was running away.

but there is ZERO evidence who started the fight.

It doesn't matter who started the fight.

What slurs?   

[240 is Back]

It doesn't matter who started the fight.

What slurs?   

You don't think so?

LOL

[tonymctones]

therre is no evidence as to which man started the fight.

We know who was carrying a gun and using slurs and leading the pursuit, and who was running away.

but there is ZERO evidence who started the fight.

what slurs?

was zimmerman following trayvon at the end of the 911 call?