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Archer77

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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #800 on: June 29, 2013, 05:41:16 PM »
Quote from: Jack T. Cross on June 29, 2013, 04:00:14 PM
If Zimmerman felt it was right, justified, important, and necessary for Martin to be questioned, what would stop him from using possession of the gun to accomplish that?

This says it all.  This is the train of logic you're attempting to lay out.  
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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #801 on: June 29, 2013, 05:42:00 PM »
Quote from: Archer77 on June 29, 2013, 05:41:16 PM
This says it all.  This is the train of logic you're attempting to lay out. 
yup whats funny is he tries to deny it and keep playing his ignorant game
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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #802 on: June 29, 2013, 05:43:08 PM »
Quote from: Archer77 on June 29, 2013, 05:34:39 PM
Here you are speculating.  You are speculating that because Zimmerman wanted Martin to be question he would use his gun to accomplish this.
And I said in response, the evidence indicates that by involving the police Zimmerman did not intend to question Martin himself.
I told you not to engage him. Dude is a fucking moron.

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Jack T. Cross

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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #803 on: June 29, 2013, 05:43:31 PM »
Quote from: Jack T. Cross on June 29, 2013, 10:43:38 AM
As for John Good, is it wrong to say:

*He did NOT see punching take place.

*He DID see pinning take place.

*He does not know who screamed.
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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #804 on: June 29, 2013, 05:44:50 PM »
Quote from: Jack T. Cross on June 29, 2013, 05:43:31 PM

LOL dude your so biased and emotionally invested in this its disturbing.

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Archer77

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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #805 on: June 29, 2013, 05:45:03 PM »
Quote from: tonymctones on June 29, 2013, 05:42:00 PM
yup whats funny is he tries to deny it and keep playing his ignorant game

He thinks that if I admit that Zimmerman wanted Martin question it somehow proves his point that Zimmerman would have gone to any lengths to have Martin questioned, including pulling out his own gun and forcing Martin to talk.  The logic just doesnt follow
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Jack T. Cross

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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #806 on: June 29, 2013, 05:45:55 PM »
Quote from: Archer77 on June 29, 2013, 05:41:16 PM
This says it all.  This is the train of logic you're attempting to lay out.  

What's your answer to the question, Archer?
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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #807 on: June 29, 2013, 05:46:30 PM »
Quote from: Jack T. Cross on June 29, 2013, 05:43:31 PM


He saw Martin on top.
He said it was probably Zimmerman screaming.
He saw them fighting.
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Jack T. Cross

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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #808 on: June 29, 2013, 05:46:59 PM »
Quote from: Archer77 on June 29, 2013, 05:45:03 PM
He thinks that if I admit that Zimmerman wanted Martin question...

How would you know, if you don't answer the question?
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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #809 on: June 29, 2013, 05:47:50 PM »
Quote from: Jack T. Cross on June 29, 2013, 05:46:59 PM
How would you know, if you don't answer the question?
he already did you numb nut fuck!!!
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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #810 on: June 29, 2013, 05:48:09 PM »
Quote from: tonymctones on June 29, 2013, 05:44:50 PM
LOL dude your so biased and emotionally invested in this its disturbing.



Yet you're the one calling names.  ??? 
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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #811 on: June 29, 2013, 05:48:44 PM »
Quote from: Jack T. Cross on June 29, 2013, 05:45:55 PM
What's your answer to the question, Archer?

I already told you.  By calling the police, Zimmerman wanted the police to be on scene to talk to Martin. Ive answered multiple times. Technically they wouldn't have actually questioned him because it would not have been a formal interview.
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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #812 on: June 29, 2013, 05:49:27 PM »
Quote from: Jack T. Cross on June 29, 2013, 05:48:09 PM
Yet you're the one calling names.  ??? 
its ok for trayvon to call ppl names but not me?
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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #813 on: June 29, 2013, 05:50:15 PM »
Quote from: Archer77 on June 29, 2013, 05:46:30 PM
He saw Martin on top.
He said it was probably Zimmerman screaming.
He saw them fighting.


Yup.  
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Jack T. Cross

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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #814 on: June 29, 2013, 05:59:19 PM »
Bros,

*I'm looking for a reason that Zimmerman would choose NOT to use possession of his gun to accomplish what he believed to be right, justified, and necessary (There are extremely compelling reasons why he WOULD do this, so tell me why he WOULDN'T do this)

AND

*I'm looking for something that is NOT consistent with a struggle over a gun.

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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #815 on: June 29, 2013, 06:02:33 PM »
Quote from: Jack T. Cross on June 29, 2013, 05:59:19 PM
Bros,

*I'm looking for a reason that Zimmerman would choose NOT to use possession of his gun to accomplish what he believed to be right, justified and necessary (There are extremely compelling reasons why he WOULD do this, so tell me why he WOULDN'T do this)

*I'm looking for something that is NOT consistent with a struggle over a gun.



The simple fact that he didn't is your answer.  At this point, whether he would have is speculative and irrelevant to his innocence or guilt.
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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #816 on: June 29, 2013, 06:03:03 PM »
Quote from: Jack T. Cross on June 29, 2013, 05:59:19 PM
Bros,

*I'm looking for a reason that Zimmerman would choose NOT to use possession of his gun to accomplish what he believed to be right, justified, and necessary (There are extremely compelling reasons why he WOULD do this, so tell me why he WOULDN'T do this)

AND

*I'm looking for something that is NOT consistent with a struggle over a gun.


so in your mind he is guilty until proven innocent?
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Jack T. Cross

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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #817 on: June 29, 2013, 06:06:26 PM »
Come on.  If you can't answer, say that.
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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #818 on: June 29, 2013, 06:08:24 PM »
Quote from: Jack T. Cross on June 29, 2013, 06:06:26 PM
Come on.  If you can't answer, say that.


Ive answered. You just dont like the answer.
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Jack T. Cross

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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #819 on: June 29, 2013, 06:15:12 PM »
Quote from: Archer77 on June 29, 2013, 06:08:24 PM
Ive answered. You just dont like the answer.

No, Archer.  From what it looks like, you didn't even read the question.
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Jack T. Cross

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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #820 on: June 29, 2013, 06:16:05 PM »
Doing a little drinking tonight, sir?

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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #821 on: June 29, 2013, 06:16:43 PM »
Quote from: tonymctones on June 29, 2013, 06:03:03 PM
so in your mind he is guilty until proven innocent?
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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #822 on: June 29, 2013, 06:19:46 PM »
Quote from: Jack T. Cross on June 29, 2013, 06:15:12 PM
No, Archer.  From what it looks like, you didn't even read the question.

That is where you are wrong.  I read the question.  Whatever reason Zimmerman had to not use his gun to question Martin is something only Zimmerman knows.  But its obvious he had a reason because he didn't use his gun to confront or question Martin.  
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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #823 on: June 29, 2013, 06:27:40 PM »
Quote from: Archer77 on June 29, 2013, 06:19:46 PM
That is where you are wrong.  I read the question.  Whatever reason Zimmerman had to not use his gun to question Martin is something only Zimmerman knows.  But its obvious he had a reason because he didn't use his gun to confront or question Martin.  

So you believe this, without being able to conceive of the reason he would do so?
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Re: Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting
« Reply #824 on: June 29, 2013, 06:29:53 PM »
Quote from: tonymctones on June 29, 2013, 06:03:03 PM
so in your mind he is guilty until proven innocent?
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