Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting

[Dos Equis]

it doesnt matter who it was from or what question it was in regards to.

zimmerman following trayvon WAS NOT ILLEGAL...plain simple and end of fucking story.......

nothing you can say or do will make it illegal.....

Well not according to the prosecutor.  They argued today that Zimmerman following Martin was evidence of ill-will, hatred, malice, etc. 

[tonymctones]

Well not according to the prosecutor.  They argued today that Zimmerman following Martin was evidence of ill-will, hatred, malice, etc.  

hahah yes that guy did try to make the connection, he reminded me alot of 240 making up facts and assumptions left and right

I believe he even mentioned zimmermans mma training a number of times

[Jack T. Cross]

it doesnt matter who it was from or what question it was in regards to.

zimmerman following trayvon WAS NOT ILLEGAL...plain simple and end of fucking story.......

nothing you can say or do will make it illegal.....

As the idea is supposed to go, if Martin's death was unlawful, then following becomes part of the crime.

[Jack T. Cross]

But I'll admit to not knowing exactly what the prosecution is doing toward that.

[240 is Back]

Well not according to the prosecutor.  They argued today that Zimmerman following Martin was evidence of ill-will, hatred, malice, etc. 

well, he told the 911 operator it looked like trayvon was on drugs and had something in his waistband.

i dont think any person who wanted to be a US Marshall so they could catch bad guys (as zimmerman stated) would look at a cracked-out potentially armed bike thief without ill will or hatred.

[tonymctones]

well, he told the 911 operator it looked like trayvon was on drugs and had something in his waistband.

i dont think any person who wanted to be a US Marshall so they could catch bad guys (as zimmerman stated) would look at a cracked-out potentially armed bike thief without ill will or hatred.

he was on drugs and the medical examiner testified that it could have had inhibition limiting effects....

[240 is Back]

he was on drugs and the medical examiner testified that it could have had inhibition limiting effects....

yep.  which is probably why he was so quick to run away from the armed adult in a truck, contemplating which MMA takedown to perform on the hapless high school junior.

anyone who says pot makes you an aggressive street fighter is silly.

[Straw Man]

well, he told the 911 operator it looked like trayvon was on drugs and had something in his waistband.

i dont think any person who wanted to be a US Marshall so they could catch bad guys (as zimmerman stated) would look at a cracked-out potentially armed bike thief without ill will or hatred.

you carry a gun so tell us if you're decided to follow a guy who you thought was on drugs and looked to you like he had something in his waistband would you have your gun out or your hand on your gun or ....?

[Dos Equis]

hahah yes that guy did try to make the connection, he reminded me alot of 240 making up facts and assumptions left and right

I believe he even mentioned zimmermans mma training a number of times

Their entire theory is retarded.  And not supported by the evidence.

[240 is Back]

you carry a gun so tell us if you're decided to follow a guy who you thought was on drugs and looked to you like he had something in his waistband would you have your gun out or your hand on your gun or ....?

Oh goodness, i do'nt care if i'm carrying a 50 caliber....  if i think a person is armed OR on drugs, NO WAY woudl I follow him.

At BEST, i'll win a gunfight and sit thru a bullshit trial.  At WORST, i get capped.

Once a fcking fool would chase after a dude he thought to be armed and on drugs, especially with police minutes away.

And only a fcking moron would support such a fool.

[tonymctones]

yep.  which is probably why he was so quick to run away from the armed adult in a truck, contemplating which MMA takedown to perform on the hapless high school junior.

anyone who says pot makes you an aggressive street fighter is silly.

anyone who thinks 18 months or training 3 times a week makes you a deadly weapon is an idiot......

[tonymctones]

Oh goodness, i do'nt care if i'm carrying a 50 caliber....  if i think a person is armed OR on drugs, NO WAY woudl I follow him.

At BEST, i'll win a gunfight and sit thru a bullshit trial.  At WORST, i get capped.

Once a fcking fool would chase after a dude he thought to be armed and on drugs, especially with police minutes away.

And only a fcking moron would support such a fool.

agreed zimmerman is a moron, didnt do anything illegal but a moron

[240 is Back]

anyone who thinks 18 months or training 3 times a week makes you a deadly weapon is an idiot......

anyone who drives a truck is a potentially deadly weapon lol.
a gun is a deadly weapon... tossed into the hands of a guy who wrote papers about catching bad guys...
and the confidence that "I can handle this 159 pound twink"...

I think more than anything, i'm embarassed for him.  159 pounds is beyond weak.

[Shockwave]

you carry a gun so tell us if you're decided to follow a guy who you thought was on drugs and looked to you like he had something in his waistband would you have your gun out or your hand on your gun or ....?

No way. I would never let anyone have a clue that I was armed until I was ready to fire the weapon. Doing so if you have no intention of using it either makes a giant douche or a total dumbass.

[Shockwave]

I think more than anything, i'm embarassed for him.  159 pounds is beyond weak.

You are a fucking idiot Rob.

[tonymctones]

anyone who drives a truck is a potentially deadly weapon lol.
a gun is a deadly weapon... tossed into the hands of a guy who wrote papers about catching bad guys...
and the confidence that "I can handle this 159 pound twink"...

I think more than anything, i'm embarassed for him.  159 pounds is beyond weak.

spoken like a person who has never been in a physical altercation in their life

[Straw Man]

Oh goodness, i do'nt care if i'm carrying a 50 caliber....  if i think a person is armed OR on drugs, NO WAY woudl I follow him.

At BEST, i'll win a gunfight and sit thru a bullshit trial.  At WORST, i get capped.

Once a fcking fool would chase after a dude he thought to be armed and on drugs, especially with police minutes away.

And only a fcking moron would support such a fool.

settle down and try to focus

I ask IF you decided to follow the guy (remember Zimm was a wanna be cop) when do you pull out your gun

At some point that gun came out and he shot Martin.....we know that

When do you think he pulled out the gun ?

  

[tonymctones]

strawman would you attack a man with a gun pointed at you?

[avxo]

strawman would you attack a man with a gun pointed at you?

I'm not StrawMan but I'll give you my answer. It depends om the circumstances. But generally, if I thought he just wanted, say, my wallet and given it would leave me alone, probably not. If I thought he was going to try and kill me one way or another, then yes, absolutely.

[tonymctones]

I'm not StrawMan but I'll give you my answer. It depends om the circumstances. But generally, if I thought he just wanted, say, my wallet and given it would leave me alone, probably not. If I thought he was going to try and kill me one way or another, then yes, absolutely.

agree, what would the person have to do to convince you their intentions where to kill you?

[240 is Back]

settle down and try to focus

I ask IF you decided to follow the guy (remember Zimm was a wanna be cop) when do you pull out your gun

At some point that gun came out and he shot Martin.....we know that

When do you think he pulled out the gun ?

   

Seeing as how it's impossible to pull a gun while your arms are pinned by a kid mounting you....

well, methinks if he really is as gung-ho about being a cop, it was probably drawn and barely under a shirt in hand while searching the yards.

and i think he'll be found guilty because of the missing 2 minutes... he was searching for trayvon, and found him.

[tonymctones]

Seeing as how it's impossible to pull a gun while your arms are pinned by a kid mounting you....

well, methinks if he really is as gung-ho about being a cop, it was probably drawn and barely under a shirt in hand while searching the yards.

and i think he'll be found guilty because of the missing 2 minutes... he was searching for trayvon, and found him.

will this backfire?  Surely the jury, if they had to choose between murder and walking - would have to let him walk.

man you just cant make up your mind there can you dipshit?

[Straw Man]

strawman would you attack a man with a gun pointed at you?

maybe, if I thought he was going to shoot me and I saw an opportunity

I've had a gun pointed at me before

[Shockwave]

Seeing as how it's impossible to pull a gun while your arms are pinned by a kid mounting you....

well, methinks if he really is as gung-ho about being a cop, it was probably drawn and barely under a shirt in hand while searching the yards.

and i think he'll be found guilty because of the missing 2 minutes... he was searching for trayvon, and found him.

your arms arent pinned when someone has you in the mount, numbnuts.

[tonymctones]

maybe, if I thought he was going to shoot me and I saw an opportunity

I've had a gun pointed at me before

As have I, more than once and I never rushed the person holding the gun