Thanks Onetimehard, ketogenic is the way go...
I'm on 60mg duloxetine/day and 900-sometimes 2100mg pregabalin/day for my back pain.
For some pregabalin opens up their appetite, for me it's a miracle cure during dieting.
I eat once a day, 250g of protein, 20-30g fat (essential fat included) and no carb (probably some, very low) .
No cravings, no hungar pangs so far, I love it.
My third week just started, went from 16 to 12mm caliper pinch in my ab area so far...
I'm following your second protocol for clen with eca.
boze pravde