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Op-Ed Columnist
A Word, Mr. President
By BOB HERBERT

Published: November 9, 2009

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If I were a close adviser of President Obama’s, I would say to him, “Mr. President, you have two urgent and overwhelming tasks in front of you: to put Americans trapped in this terrible employment crisis back to work and to put the brakes on your potentially disastrous plan to escalate the war in Afghanistan.”

Reforming the chaotic and unfair health care system in the U.S. is an important issue. But in terms of pressing national priorities, the most important are the need to find solutions to a catastrophic employment environment that is devastating American families and to end the folly of an 8-year-old war that is both extremely debilitating and ultimately unwinnable.

We have spent the better part of a year locked in a tedious and unenlightening debate over health care while the jobless rate has steadily surged. It’s now at 10.2 percent. Families struggling with job losses, home foreclosures and personal bankruptcies are falling out of the middle class like fruit through the bottom of a rotten basket. The jobless rate for men 16 years old and over is 11.4 percent. For blacks, it’s a back-breaking 15.7 percent.

We need to readjust our focus. We’re worried about Kabul when Detroit has gone down for the count.

I would tell the president that more and more Americans are questioning his priorities, including millions who went to the mat for him in last year’s election. The biggest issue by far for most Americans is employment. The lack of jobs is fueling the nervousness, anxiety and full-blown anger that are becoming increasingly evident in the public at large.

Last Friday, a huge crowd of fans marched in a ticker-tape parade in downtown Manhattan to celebrate the Yankees’ World Series championship. More than once, as the fans passed through the financial district, the crowd erupted in rhythmic, echoing chants of “Wall Street sucks! Wall Street sucks!”

I would tell the president that the feeling is widespread that his administration went too far with its bailouts of the financial industry, sending not just a badly needed lifeline but also unwarranted windfalls to the miscreants who nearly wrecked the entire economy. The government got very little in return. The perception now is that Wall Street is doing just fine while working people, whose taxes financed the bailouts, are walking the plank to economic oblivion.

I would also tell him that rebuilding the economy in a way that allows working Americans to flourish will require a sustained monumental effort, not just bits and pieces of legislation here and there. But such an effort will never get off the ground, will never have any chance of reaching critical mass and actually succeeding, as long as we insist on feeding young, healthy American men and women and endless American dollars into the relentless meat grinders of Afghanistan and Iraq.

We learned in the 1960s, when Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society was trumped by Vietnam, that nation-building here at home is incompatible with the demands of war. We’ve managed to keep the worst of the carnage — and the staggering costs — of Iraq and Afghanistan well out of the sight of most Americans, so the full extent of the terrible price we are paying is not widely understood.

The ultimate financial costs will be counted in the trillions. If you were to take a walk around one of the many military medical centers, like Landstuhl in Germany or Walter Reed in Washington, your heart would break at the sight of the heroic young men and women who have lost limbs (frequently more than one) or who are blind or paralyzed or horribly burned. Hundreds of thousands have suffered psychological wounds. Many have contemplated or tried suicide, and far too many have succeeded.

“Mr. President,” I would say, “we’ll never be right as a nation as long as we allow this to continue.”

The possibility of more troops for the war in Afghanistan was discussed Sunday on “Meet the Press.” Gov. Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania noted candidly that “our troops are tired and worn out.” More than 85 percent of the men and women in the Pennsylvania National Guard have already served in Iraq or Afghanistan. “Many of them have gone three or four times and they’re wasted,” said Mr. Rendell.

More troops? “Where are we going to find these troops?” the governor asked. “That’s what I want somebody to tell me.”

While we’re preparing to pour more resources into Afghanistan, the Economic Policy Institute is telling us that one in five American children is living in poverty, that nearly 35 percent of African-American children are living in poverty, and that the unemployment crisis is pushing us toward a point in the coming years where more than half of all black children in this country will be poor.

“Mr. President,” I would say, “we need your help.”

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Great article and dead on. 


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Re: Liberal NYT Columnist questions Obama's priorities in Health Care & War
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2009, 07:47:38 AM »
Some of the comments are priceless:

http://community.nytimes.com/comments/www.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/opinion/10herbert.html?sort=oldest&offset=1

These morons were all duped and fooled by false slick advertising and are now complaining about the rotten tomato they purchased? 



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Re: Liberal NYT Columnist questions Obama's priorities in Health Care & War
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2009, 07:52:09 AM »
haha, good article.  I had this discussion during the elections with a friend and his wife who kept talking about "they had read Obama's views" and thats why they were supporting him.  I laughed in their face and can't wait to throw it right back in their face again.  I tried to tell them he was an empty Chicago politician, but they wouldn't hear of it......

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Re: Liberal NYT Columnist questions Obama's priorities in Health Care & War
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2009, 07:54:16 AM »
We were ardent supporters of candidate Obama. We donated our money, we canvased, attended rally's and we opened our home to visitors from out of state. Indeed, we housed two young men who came all the way from Australia to campaign for him. We were proud to be their hosts.

Where is the Barack Obama that we campaigned for? Why is President Barack Obama not governing as the candidate Obama that we campaigned for indicated to us that he would? Why isn't the president the progressive hero that we imagined and that he told us he was?

Time is running out for this president and most importantly for millions of Americans. He better start kicking it and taking names or he and America will fail.


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Re: Liberal NYT Columnist questions Obama's priorities in Health Care & War
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2009, 07:58:57 AM »
Mr. Herbert: One of your best columns among so many. I suggest that you gather together some well known colleagues, arm yourself with the comments you receive from your readers and invite yourself to a personal meeting with President Obama.

Our President's agenda is becoming a disaster. Along with so many Americans I supported and voted for him, rejoiced in his election and its aftermath is deeply painful As an old white woman, I cannot forget the faces of all the black people who came to his inauguration with such hope in their eyes and dignity in their bearing. I wonder and worry how they are dealing with the present realities.

Please keep us informed. Your columns are always most welcome as is truth when it finally appears.

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Another idiot who was duped. 

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Re: Liberal NYT Columnist questions Obama's priorities in Health Care & War
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2009, 08:13:23 AM »
Thank you Bob, for clearly expressing what so many of us believe, and what is an undeniably logical and rational point of view. While I have supported and admired President Obama, I agree that he has made a fundamental and calamitous error by misordering the nation's priorities. Further, his commitment to the gross error of military engagement in Afghanistan is not only disastrous but also foolish; this re-enaction of failed British and Soviet Afghan campaigns is reminiscent of the Nazis' famous and costly error of repeating the folly of Napoleon in Russia. One who does not learn the lessons of history should not be in the business of making it. I hope that Mr. Obama reads your piece and others like it, and comes to his senses quickly. The nation itself has lost limbs in Iraq and Afghanistan. At least the Romans of yore profited in territory and spoils from their wars; we by contrast gain nothing but hemorrhagic fiscal and human loss, and total neglect of our domestic needs. It is high time to end the terribly misguided wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, focus on jobs and the economy, provide real stimulus, and quit wasting time on a failed healthcare debate. There again, Mr. Obama repeats an earlier mistake, albeit political rather than military; he has re-enacted the Clinton folly of 1993. Keep up the great work with your pen, Mr. Herbert.

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Oh boy - this sobering up process seems very difficult for the Obama voters. 

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Re: Liberal NYT Columnist questions Obama's priorities in Health Care & War
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2009, 08:34:35 AM »
good job of cut/paste.
lost interest after the phrase "put the brakes on...Afganistan".  Place should be bombed. Better yet, since Rush, Sean and Mark L all seem to know what is best; appoint one of them to be the new president for a couple years and put their suggestions to good use.
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