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Title: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 02, 2006, 05:50:39 PM
This could be interesting !
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: akers1021 on October 02, 2006, 05:56:29 PM
Won't be interesting, Weider and the IFBB will see to it that Mr. O wins.  Ronnie will never reign again with those 3 injuries he is done.... ::)
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 02, 2006, 06:00:10 PM
Ronnie is still threat , look after 2002 he came back and set a new standard , Ronnie is still Ronnie.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Tigerman on October 02, 2006, 06:02:21 PM
Is Ronnie actually competing on the Grand Prix this year?
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 02, 2006, 06:05:36 PM
Is Ronnie actually competing on the Grand Prix this year?

On PBW They said Ronnie is confirmed for the tour and so is Jay.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Deadpool on October 02, 2006, 06:06:33 PM
should be quite a show between those two
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Tigerman on October 02, 2006, 06:07:39 PM
Let's put it in this way...
I am not sure which factor was more important in Ronnie's defeat, his not perfect conditioning or the problems with the shoulder/lat...
It's up to the judges now, if conditioning was the main issue, then Ronnie can win in Europe. If the real problem was the back, then he won't have a chance this year.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: pobrecito on October 02, 2006, 06:37:21 PM
Ronnie is still threat , look after 2002 he came back and set a new standard , Ronnie is still Ronnie.

NO! This is a major fallacy that almost everyone has fallen into.

Ronnie did not set a new standard in 2003. He did NOT put on 40lbs of muscle between the 2002 and 2003 Mr. Olympias. Ronnie was 275lbs and in the shape of his life 18days out of the 2002 mr. olympia. He was in superior condition to the 2003O WITHOUT the gut. 2002 was the new standard. Now is a completely different challenge for Ronnie. He has several injuries and needs a lot more than simply fixing his contest prep to regain the crown
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 02, 2006, 06:53:18 PM
What the....Ronnie's still the best! Lok at Jay's arms and quads in comparison to Ronnie as well as Ronnie's thickness...came in off yet the mass he holds is far superior, esp at this tier of Pro Bb.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: divcom on October 02, 2006, 07:23:07 PM
If Manion has a clue...he'll make sure the judges pick Ronnie over Jay in some of the events.  It's good business for the IFBB and the O if Ronnie decides to comeback in 2007.  Anyway...he made sure his son's athletes did well.  ;)
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 03, 2006, 08:27:18 PM
Ronnie SHOULD win all 3.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Tigerman on October 03, 2006, 08:33:11 PM
Ronnie SHOULD win all 3.

He should but I doubt it will happen.
In that case Jay would make history as the Mr.O. who lost more times during his reigning year. I doubt the IFBB hierarchies want this.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Miss Karen on October 03, 2006, 08:33:43 PM
Doubt he will be there.Interesting if he is.Milos said he might be competing now that is news.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: 240 is Back on October 03, 2006, 08:34:12 PM
Ronnie is gonna back out, my friends.

You will not see him in Euro :(
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Tigerman on October 03, 2006, 08:35:45 PM
Ronnie is gonna back out, my friends.

You will not see him in Euro :(

People of his entourage said he's gonna compete in Europe and looking fwd to it.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Miss Karen on October 03, 2006, 08:36:26 PM
Word.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: 1Fast400 on October 03, 2006, 08:40:58 PM
I saw him at mortons on sunday night with melvin before I flew out.  I think one BIG thing people are forgetting is that the O was done over 2 days.  That is the first time in 10 years these guys have had to prepare for a show over 2 nights.  I think that messed some people up.  I was at the night show on friday for prejudging.  I didn't go to the night show on saturday.  From the pictures, I think he looked better on friday night.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: IceCold on October 03, 2006, 08:50:49 PM
He thinks the judges will give him the shaft?  All he has to do is drop a few pounds of water and he will be unstoppable.


nope.  i doubt it.

he seems to be going downhill fast. 

between his injuries and his conditioning getting worse and worse the past 2 years. 
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: thisiskeith12 on October 03, 2006, 08:51:29 PM
I bet Ronnie will win this weekend, any takers?
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 03, 2006, 09:20:36 PM
I bet Ronnie will win this weekend, any takers?

Yes.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on October 04, 2006, 12:04:10 AM
Ronnie is gonna back out, my friends.

You will not see him in Euro :(

Are you putting another $100 on this ?

The Beef
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Ron on October 04, 2006, 12:11:57 AM


From various sources, Ronnie is going to prepare and be ready for the rematch this weekend in three shows in Europe vs. Jay Cutler.  Jay is intent on beating him again and again and again. Will Ronnie let that happen? I don't think so. 

It will be interesting that these European shows have just become a huge draw for many out there, seeing the rematch of Ronnie vs. Jay.

Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Instints on October 04, 2006, 02:01:39 AM

The real problem for me is Ronnie's obvoius torn back. I dont think that can be fixed in a week. If the european judges gives undue attention to that, then ronnie could be beaten again in the european shows. Ronnie can change his conditioning in a week, and present a package near his 2003 Mr O condition. If ronnie's loss was purely based on condition other than the obvious muscle tear, then the european show is no show, Ronnie will beat Jay in all three
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: kyomu on October 04, 2006, 02:15:48 AM

From various sources, Ronnie is going to prepare and be ready for the rematch this weekend in three shows in Europe vs. Jay Cutler.  Jay is intent on beating him again and again and again. Will Ronnie let that happen? I don't think so. 

It will be interesting that these European shows have just become a huge draw for many out there, seeing the rematch of Ronnie vs. Jay.


Unbelievably exciting. Because no one can predict 100% sure!
For me,Ronnie and Jay was almost tie.(OK Jay was little bit ahead)
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Instints on October 04, 2006, 02:24:32 AM

I dont think anyone disputes the fact that Ronnie was off. He was off, holding some water, and not near his previous outing. What Jay accomplished the past week end was to beat Ronnie who was off. Next year when the injuries are off, you will see a different ronnie. Remember the package he presented in 2003 after the loss to Big G at the GNC show in 2002. Believe you me, next year will be tight and he will blow everybody out
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: phyxsius on October 04, 2006, 02:29:16 AM
I agree that no one on this planet will have the similar physique like Ronnie (mass, separation, maturity) but

Jay Cutler is Mr. Olympia 2006
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Weightpit on October 04, 2006, 04:43:31 AM
What I find interesting is the fact that Jay is even doing these. He never did before....when did he decide to do these shows??
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Instints on October 04, 2006, 04:54:48 AM
Off in terms of conditioning. Like I did say in my previous post, the Ronnie coleman we saw in 2006, is definately not the Ronnie of 2003. I am a die hard Ronnie fan, but felt uneasy when I saw the pre-judging pictures on the net. I knew in my heart of heart that Ronnie could lose the contest. I just cant pin point, but something was missing. Sunday Morning I logged in and he had lost it. From the various site and listening to comments and seeing the pictures, he was a better man on saturday evening. Ronnie just allowed the size game to take precedence over his conditioning and he made us pay the price. But remember seven times the righteous falls, seven times he gets back. Ronnie will be back, harder than ever.

Jay had done some shows after the O in europe before
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: HUGEPECS on October 04, 2006, 05:14:03 AM
he's really showing his age now.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: nicorulez on October 04, 2006, 06:06:16 AM
It appears that Ronnie was much better on Saturday night.  He even apppeared to have his ripped glutes.  However, that back is not the same back that dominated 1998-2005; I could make a case for 1997 but he was never directly compared to Doz (oversight... ;D).  Regardless, I have said again and again, Ronnie at 90 percent is better than anyone.  He will crush Jay in a fair show if he comes in at this condition.  I still don't feel Jay knocked him out, so to speak.  I think the IFBB wanted some new blood, but instead of witty they monotonic blather.  ::) ::)  At Doz was kinda of funny in his Brit way.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: divcom on October 04, 2006, 06:16:47 AM

From various sources, Ronnie is going to prepare and be ready for the rematch this weekend in three shows in Europe vs. Jay Cutler.  Jay is intent on beating him again and again and again. Will Ronnie let that happen? I don't think so. 

It will be interesting that these European shows have just become a huge draw for many out there, seeing the rematch of Ronnie vs. Jay.



Will the IFBB let them do it?  10-12 less H2O and Ronnie goes 3-0 vs Jay but we know that is going to happen.  Let us see if the jacka$$es make the right call.  They'd be setting up the best year to come in bbing in the last 500 yrs.

Jay is about money...so I'm sure he likes the path that leads to the most dollars.  He and Ronnie would clean house in 2007 and probably 2008 for the best 2 of 3. 
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: the shadow on October 04, 2006, 06:20:00 AM
What the....Ronnie's still the best! Lok at Jay's arms and quads in comparison to Ronnie as well as Ronnie's thickness...came in off yet the mass he holds is far superior, esp at this tier of Pro Bb.
hahah you make me laugh...ronnie was not that big at this years olympia dude...just see this..ronnie looked like he had no lats,his back was looking shitty as hell,his left leg was shitty as hell..his left leg had no visible cuts in them and his left triceps had nothing in them..no mass or cuts in them..most of his mass that he gained was in his waist..he looked like a pile of poop to me
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: adipo8 on October 04, 2006, 06:40:22 AM
I saw him at mortons on sunday night with melvin before I flew out.  I think one BIG thing people are forgetting is that the O was done over 2 days.  That is the first time in 10 years these guys have had to prepare for a show over 2 nights.  I think that messed some people up.  I was at the night show on friday for prejudging.  I didn't go to the night show on saturday.  From the pictures, I think he looked better on friday night.

messed him up? He had a year to prepare. He is 8 time Mr. O .... Nothing messed him up. He had a off night. The pressure to perform in front of his idol .. Lee Haney and too make history. I commend him on the attempt. I have said it before the olympia and I will say it again. Ronnie is beatable. At this point it is not what happened but how he handles it.

Warning: the lion will be back - TRUE STORY..
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Weightpit on October 04, 2006, 06:49:48 AM
You know what sucks.....Jay will probably sweep this weekend ....do it legitimately...and all the Ronnie-clones will say it's a fix........ ::)

NO matter what Jay does from here out, it's going to be a conspiracy against Sore-Loser Ron......

Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: slayer on October 04, 2006, 08:29:50 AM
You know what sucks.....Jay will probably sweep this weekend ....do it legitimately...and all the Ronnie-clones will say it's a fix........ ::)

NO matter what Jay does from here out, it's going to be a conspiracy against Sore-Loser Ron......


it will all be forgotten in a few yrs just like ronnie!
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: SAMSON123 on October 04, 2006, 08:50:43 AM
Won't be interesting, Weider and the IFBB will see to it that Mr. O wins.  Ronnie will never reign again with those 3 injuries he is done.... ::)

WHAT THREE INJURIES???  THERE ARE NO INJURIES!!!
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: dearth on October 04, 2006, 09:13:54 AM
WHAT THREE INJURIES???  THERE ARE NO INJURIES!!!

I guess his left lat just sponteneously shrivelled up
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: punk_rockerX on October 04, 2006, 09:26:43 AM
mark my words!!!!

ronnie will try to blow-up and over-power jay, which is a contributing factor to his olympia loss.  jay will be 3 pounds lighter and even more ripped than the o.  jay will win all three events and ronnie will come home more depressed than he already is.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: 240 is Back on October 04, 2006, 09:33:02 AM
i was previously undefeated in internet BBing gambling until i ran into karma keith. 

only a fool would bet against him.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: knny187 on October 04, 2006, 10:06:25 AM

From various sources, Ronnie is going to prepare and be ready for the rematch this weekend in three shows in Europe vs. Jay Cutler.  Jay is intent on beating him again and again and again. Will Ronnie let that happen? I don't think so. 

It will be interesting that these European shows have just become a huge draw for many out there, seeing the rematch of Ronnie vs. Jay.



This is the best thing for the IFBB in years.


They should knock the reigning Mr O off more often
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Weightpit on October 04, 2006, 10:10:11 AM
This is the best thing for the IFBB in years.


They should knock the reigning Mr O off more often

I have to agree.....look how many people thought that Coleman was a shoe-in no matter how he looked. THis is the most exciting it has been since Dorian retired and the crown was up for grabs.......
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Childish///AMG on October 04, 2006, 10:43:48 AM
It will go "1 to 1" thus setting-up a climatic 3rd show 8)
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Adam Empire on October 04, 2006, 11:21:55 AM
For those who are talking about next year already...  Unless Ronnie has surgery to fix the back and tri, they will continue to stand out (or stand out worse).  I doubt Ron will take the time to have these fixed surgically.

I am being realistic here.  These tears don't just go away - they are either fixed or heal and look funny.  So regardless of future condition, there may be muscularity and symmetry problems in the future.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 05, 2006, 10:55:46 PM
hahah you make me laugh...ronnie was not that big at this years olympia dude...just see this..ronnie looked like he had no lats,his back was looking shitty as hell,his left leg was shitty as hell..his left leg had no visible cuts in them and his left triceps had nothing in them..no mass or cuts in them..most of his mass that he gained was in his waist..he looked like a pile of poop to me

LOL, that's exactly my point kid...Ronnie even with all those weaknesses still destroyed Gutler. How can someone with little arms and quads (compared to Ronnie) and blocky waist like fridge ever win Mr O and beat the champ? Once you stop stroking Jay's balls, you'll realise he's already happily with Kerry... ;D
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Royalty on October 05, 2006, 11:02:17 PM
LOL, that's exactly my point kid...Ronnie even with all those weaknesses still destroyed Gutler. How can someone with little arms and quads (compared to Ronnie) and blocky waist like fridge ever win Mr O and beat the champ? Once you stop stroking Jay's balls, you'll realise he's already happily with Kerry... ;D

Jays width and condition carried him to victory. I think he is 3-4 inches shorter than Coleman and yet Jay is wider.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: theonlyone on October 05, 2006, 11:24:36 PM
How can someone with little arms and quads (compared to Ronnie) and blocky waist like fridge ever win Mr O and beat the champ?
That is a question for me too not only that subpar arms, hunched back, blocky waist, short legs and overall stocky appearence.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: IFBBwannaB on October 05, 2006, 11:27:10 PM
That is a question for me too not only that subpar arms, hunched back, blocky waist, short legs and overall stocky appearence.

You forgot:

Worse conditioning.
Silicon delts.
Muscles that dont move when he flex them ( things that make you go hmmm).
Mismatched bi's,quads and lats.
Less asthetic shape.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: thisiskeith12 on October 05, 2006, 11:38:04 PM
LOL, that's exactly my point kid...Ronnie even with all those weaknesses still destroyed Gutler. How can someone with little arms and quads (compared to Ronnie) and blocky waist like fridge ever win Mr O and beat the champ? Once you stop stroking Jay's balls, you'll realise he's already happily with Kerry... ;D

Little arms and quads? Jay's quads were much larger and better than that, they had DETAIL. Ronnie's quads have NO DETAIL. Jay's arms are way bigger than Ronnie's, additionally Jay has triceps. Ronnie only has detailed biceps. NO TRICEPS. Face it old timer, Ronnie is through.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on October 05, 2006, 11:50:10 PM
For those who are talking about next year already...  Unless Ronnie has surgery to fix the back and tri, they will continue to stand out (or stand out worse).  I doubt Ron will take the time to have these fixed surgically.

I am being realistic here.  These tears don't just go away - they are either fixed or heal and look funny.  So regardless of future condition, there may be muscularity and symmetry problems in the future.

Is this something that can be fixed by surgery? On PBW Chad chalked the whole thing up to arthritis in Ronnie's shoulder.

The Beef
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: theonlyone on October 05, 2006, 11:52:48 PM
You forgot:
Muscles that dont move when he flex them ( things that make you go hmmm).
I have really forgot to mention as its god damn so obvious.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: theonlyone on October 05, 2006, 11:56:39 PM
Jay's arms are way bigger than Ronnie's, additionally
You are a cretin, there is no one who would argue it.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Al-Gebra on October 06, 2006, 12:07:49 AM
You are a cretin, there is no one who would argue it.

jay looks like a garden gnome in that pic . . . ahh, the joys of politics.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: MattT on October 06, 2006, 12:13:44 AM

From various sources, Ronnie is going to prepare and be ready for the rematch this weekend in three shows in Europe vs. Jay Cutler.  Jay is intent on beating him again and again and again. Will Ronnie let that happen? I don't think so. 

It will be interesting that these European shows have just become a huge draw for many out there, seeing the rematch of Ronnie vs. Jay.



See this just goes to show that Ronnie is a fighter and will not back down after his loss.. Remember he lost to Gunter, and came back and kicked everyone's ass! Don't count King Ron out just yet!...
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: rocket on October 06, 2006, 12:28:56 AM
I've no doubt ronnie will be better than jay for atleast 2 of the comps coming up but whether he gets the win.. who knows.

Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: MattT on October 06, 2006, 12:34:37 AM
You are a cretin, there is no one who would argue it.

IMO Dex, Vic, and Ronnie all have a better side chest then Jay, the only pose jay owns is the side tri..
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Al-Gebra on October 06, 2006, 12:37:43 AM
IMO Dex, Vic, and Ronnie all have a better side chest then Jay, the only pose jay owns is the side tri..

don't forget the "melting abs" shot  . . .

and how would you describe his frankenstein's monster-like assemblage of limbs from various bodies?  One leg from Platz, the other from Zane, one arm from Kamali, the other from gunther.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Spicy Shushi on October 06, 2006, 01:43:04 AM
Is this something that can be fixed by surgery? On PBW Chad chalked the whole thing up to arthritis in Ronnie's shoulder.

The Beef

Chad's never gone on PBW. Oops.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: slayer on October 06, 2006, 06:32:24 AM
IMO Dex, Vic, and Ronnie all have a better side chest then Jay, the only pose jay owns is the side tri..
jay owns ronnie colemen from head to toe, its called being mr olympia! ;)
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: delta9mda on October 06, 2006, 06:35:46 AM
Little arms and quads? Jay's quads were much larger and better than that, they had DETAIL. Ronnie's quads have NO DETAIL. Jay's arms are way bigger than Ronnie's, additionally Jay has triceps. Ronnie only has detailed biceps. NO TRICEPS. Face it old timer, Ronnie is through.
true.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: delta9mda on October 06, 2006, 06:39:25 AM
Ronnie is gonna back out, my friends.

You will not see him in Euro :(
you said he would win the o and look what happened.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: MattT on October 06, 2006, 10:34:02 AM
jay owns ronnie colemen from head to toe, its called being mr olympia! ;)


Oh thats why it took 6 years to beat him?  ::) Yeh sure jay owns ronnie ::) If Ronnie was white im sure you would be singing a different tune..
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: wordy on October 06, 2006, 10:52:09 AM

Oh thats why it took 6 years to beat him?  ::) Yeh sure jay owns ronnie ::) If Ronnie was white im sure you would be singing a different tune..

If Jay was black I reckon you would aswell..
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Wombat on October 06, 2006, 10:54:40 AM
Little arms and quads? Jay's quads were much larger and better than that, they had DETAIL. Ronnie's quads have NO DETAIL. Jay's arms are way bigger than Ronnie's, additionally Jay has triceps. Ronnie only has detailed biceps. NO TRICEPS. Face it old timer, Ronnie is through.

Did you really just write that Jay's arms are way bigger then ronnie's???What are you looking at...Ronnie's triceps suck...But his overall arm makes jays look tiny...And with all the synthol or synthol related products that Jay is pumping in his arms, they look softer then a babies ass...

If you were to take Jay's body and black out everything except his arms, most people would think that his arms belong on someone that was over 8% bodyfat...No detail and no veins what so ever...And one of his arms are over 2 inches smaller then the other...

I like Jay---but his arms are not good...
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: MattT on October 06, 2006, 10:54:51 AM
Lookin dry and vascular! How the hell did Jay beat him >:(
(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2006/profi_grand_prix_2006_graz/PA064244.JPG)
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: MattT on October 06, 2006, 10:58:34 AM
If Jay was black I reckon you would aswell..

can't play that card on me im half white ;)  If i honestly thought Jay had a better physique then Ronnie. Then i would say so, but obviously he doesn't and the judges rewarded Ronnie for 8 straight years making him Mr O.. So that in itself makes Ronnie a better bber then Jay
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: wordy on October 06, 2006, 11:16:27 AM
can't play that card on me im half white ;)  If i honestly thought Jay had a better physique then Ronnie. Then i would say so, but obviously he doesn't and the judges rewarded Ronnie for 8 straight years making him Mr O.. So that in itself makes Ronnie a better bber then Jay


If he was the better bodybuilder he wouldv'e won Mr O, he came second so Jay is the better bodybuilder. The fact that Ronnie won the title 8 times makes him more successful than Jay.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 06, 2006, 11:25:26 AM
Lookin dry and vascular! How the hell did Jay beat him >:(
(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2006/profi_grand_prix_2006_graz/PA064244.JPG)

Ronnie's arms are dry and vascular its everything else that wasn't . somethimes Ronnie will have striated glutes and still carry excess water , he needs to be dry all over to make an impact.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: DEFCON on October 06, 2006, 11:26:57 AM
I'm rootin' for Ronnie!
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: thisiskeith12 on October 06, 2006, 11:48:32 AM
Can't you just imagine how Ronnie feels now? It's like he's trying to crank the car to get to work, but it just won't crank... :'(
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 06, 2006, 04:54:37 PM
Can't you just imagine how Ronnie feels now? It's like he's trying to crank the car to get to work, but it just won't crank... :'(

I'm very interested in the physchology of going from an seeminly unstopable winner to struggling and being relegated to second , Ronnie in all likelyhood will become more religious seeing this as some test of his faith .
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: Royalty on October 06, 2006, 06:52:28 PM
I'm very interested in the physchology of going from an seeminly unstopable winner to struggling and being relegated to second , Ronnie in all likelyhood will become more religious seeing this as some test of his faith .


I think Ronnie has been humbled and will train smarter than ever for the 2007 ASC.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: dearth on October 06, 2006, 07:04:09 PM

Lookin dry and vascular! How the hell did Jay beat him >:(
(http://www.bbszene.de/html/2006/profi_grand_prix_2006_graz/PA064244.JPG)

I think it was a conspiracy!
Clearly if they had an autograph signing round in prejudging, ronnie would have prevailed!
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 06, 2006, 09:22:41 PM
Little arms and quads? Jay's quads were much larger and better than that, they had DETAIL. Ronnie's quads have NO DETAIL. Jay's arms are way bigger than Ronnie's, additionally Jay has triceps. Ronnie only has detailed biceps. NO TRICEPS. Face it old timer, Ronnie is through.

HAHAHAHA, LMAO@Jay having bigger arms and quads. That's like saying Pee Wee Herman is biger than Federov...sonny boy. Plus, Jay waist is so wide from the front that he makes Ronnie look like Brian Buchanon, besides his small arms and quads next to Ronnie....Jay = fridge, no taper, better version of Tamali. This Mr O was a gift from IFBB to him.
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: slayer on October 06, 2006, 09:49:56 PM
HAHAHAHA, LMAO@Jay having bigger arms and quads. That's like saying Pee Wee Herman is biger than Federov...sonny boy. Plus, Jay waist is so wide from the front that he makes Ronnie look like Brian Buchanon, besides his small arms and quads next to Ronnie....Jay = fridge, no taper, better version of Tamali. This Mr O was a gift from IFBB to him.
ok ronnie! sleep well you have 2 more shows to lose! ;)
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: TheGoldenPrince on October 08, 2006, 01:35:26 AM
ok ronnie! sleep well you have 2 more shows to lose! ;)

Hahaha, ok "slayer"...remember to get off Jay's nuts soon! At lwast they r tinier than his waist! ;D
Title: Re: The Rematch Ronnie Vs Jay on the Grand Prix Circuit
Post by: pumpster on October 08, 2006, 07:28:01 AM
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One thing that I have learned from seeing tons of Ronnie's pics over the years is that you cannot judge his conditioning based on the way his arms look in a cutoff shirt; they pretty much always look dry and extremely vascular, even in the offseason, often giving the impression that he is in better shape than he actually is.
I noticed same. His conditioning or lackoff appears elsewhere.