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Title: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: G_Thang on August 12, 2013, 11:27:08 PM
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With only 5% of the world’s population, the U.S. has 25% of the world’s prison population – that makes us the world’s largest jailer.
Since 1970, our prison population has risen 700%.
One in 99 adults are living behind bars in the U.S. This marks the highest rate of imprisonment in American history.
One in 31 adults are under some form of correctional control, counting prison, jail, parole and probation populations.

Even shithole 3rd World Countries don't have as many felons as 1st World America.
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: missile on August 13, 2013, 01:39:56 AM
USA is an evil country bro.
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Parker on August 13, 2013, 01:44:55 AM
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Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: ukjeff on August 13, 2013, 01:46:05 AM
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With only 5% of the world’s population, the U.S. has 25% of the world’s prison population – that makes us the world’s largest jailer.
Since 1970, our prison population has risen 700%.
One in 99 adults are living behind bars in the U.S. This marks the highest rate of imprisonment in American history.
One in 31 adults are under some form of correctional control, counting prison, jail, parole and probation populations.

Even shithole 3rd World Countries don't have as many felons as 1st World America.
People are in prison because they cant behave themselves and respect one and other.
Does that tell you anything about America?
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 13, 2013, 02:01:05 AM
USA is an evil country bro.

U smell on Islam  >:(
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: polychronopolous on August 13, 2013, 02:03:02 AM
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The legal/prison system has become the Modern Day Cotton field for ALL races.(to varying degrees)
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: missile on August 13, 2013, 02:10:47 AM
U smell on Islam  >:(

Speak English bro!
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: G_Thang on August 13, 2013, 02:11:48 AM
Speak English bro!

i think it's "you smell of islam", arab.   
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Parker on August 13, 2013, 02:19:26 AM
X2

The legal/prison system has become the Modern Day Cotton field for ALL races.(to varying degrees)
one can look at it as feeding the beast. Everybody has a hand in the basket, from once a person is arrested and a case is created...all the way down to Correctional Officers, Parole Officers, public defenders, private attorneys, politicians. I believe it's one the biggest money makers today. The system depends on people having dysfunctional relationships, coming from or out of dysfunctional relationships, being the product of dysfunctional relationships, not having any guidance, drug habits, and a general "I-don't-care" attitude.
Once you allow yourself to be a food item to feed the beast, you are constantly recycled thru over and over.
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: missile on August 13, 2013, 02:27:33 AM
i think it's "you smell of islam", arab.   

HAHA you're government supports my brothers in Syria!  Every day we cut of the heads of Christians! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on August 13, 2013, 03:35:53 AM
America has more prisoners than Communist China.  Land of the free , LOL.
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: ESFitness on August 13, 2013, 03:55:18 AM
you're forgetting about "Prison Industries".

There are prison's that have "housing" jobs for inmates. They build roughly 40 houses a year (3 a month) and sell them for $35k-45k, while paying the inmates $.25/hour to build them. Then the inmates turn around and spend that money in prison commissary for items marked up 100-300% (over $4 for a jar of generic peanut butter that costs $1.60, $.58 for Ramen noodles, $3.50 for a $1.50 bag o generic bbq chips, $2.50 for a loaf of $1.20 bread, almost $5 for a bag of $2.80 generic instant coffee, ect, ect, ect...)... and not to mention the monopoly on the phone company's, where a 20min long distance call costs over $7 and a local call costs over $4 with a $3 connection fee. So if your call 'somehow' gets cut off after 1 minute, you gotta call back and your 20 min phone call costs $10 total (2 connection fees).

many times, especially in small towns where the prison is THE main 'industry', the prison officials (warden and secretary of corrections) are investors in the companies that supply the commissary as well as long-distance phone service providers.
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 13, 2013, 04:22:19 AM
HAHA you're government supports my brothers in Syria!  Every day we cut of the heads of Christians! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

Speak English
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: _bruce_ on August 13, 2013, 04:28:39 AM
i think it's "you smell of islam", arab.   

x2
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Archer77 on August 13, 2013, 04:41:01 AM
We lock people up for the dumbest of reasons.  Prisons are being privatized at a faster rate.  You're going to see so much corruption your head will spin.  The prison industrial complex is upon us.  It's in the best interest of prison contractors to keep people locked up and to build more prisons.
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 13, 2013, 04:49:00 AM
USA is an evil country bro.

You stinky arab
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: missile on August 13, 2013, 05:21:20 AM
You stinky arab

HAHAHAHA America will be our bitch soon.  You wait and see!  Your president is our friend!
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 13, 2013, 06:15:26 AM
HAHAHAHA America will be our bitch soon.  You wait and see!  Your president is our friend!

Smelly, yours IP address is given to Mossad  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: tommywishbone on August 13, 2013, 11:03:42 AM
land of the free
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Kwon_2 on August 13, 2013, 11:07:02 AM
HAHAHAHA America will be our bitch soon.  You wait and see!  Your president is our friend!

My country does not even have a President , you stinky camelhumper with that Scud-Missile embedded in your anus
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 13, 2013, 11:39:19 AM
you're forgetting about "Prison Industries".

There are prison's that have "housing" jobs for inmates. They build roughly 40 houses a year (3 a month) and sell them for $35k-45k, while paying the inmates $.25/hour to build them. Then the inmates turn around and spend that money in prison commissary for items marked up 100-300% (over $4 for a jar of generic peanut butter that costs $1.60, $.58 for Ramen noodles, $3.50 for a $1.50 bag o generic bbq chips, $2.50 for a loaf of $1.20 bread, almost $5 for a bag of $2.80 generic instant coffee, ect, ect, ect...)... and not to mention the monopoly on the phone company's, where a 20min long distance call costs over $7 and a local call costs over $4 with a $3 connection fee. So if your call 'somehow' gets cut off after 1 minute, you gotta call back and your 20 min phone call costs $10 total (2 connection fees).

many times, especially in small towns where the prison is THE main 'industry', the prison officials (warden and secretary of corrections) are investors in the companies that supply the commissary as well as long-distance phone service providers.

This^^^In America, prisons are traded on the stock exchange...Think about that. How many judges have prison stock?
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Obvious Gimmick on August 13, 2013, 12:20:15 PM
Yep, prisons are big biz and employ a lot of people and we have stupid drug laws that get you locked up for years for a quarter of coke. Stupid, but people sign up to go every day
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Psychopath on August 13, 2013, 12:21:15 PM
Corporate America.
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: The Hunter on August 13, 2013, 01:08:43 PM
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With only 5% of the world’s population, the U.S. has 25% of the world’s prison population – that makes us the world’s largest jailer.
Since 1970, our prison population has risen 700%.
One in 99 adults are living behind bars in the U.S. This marks the highest rate of imprisonment in American history.
One in 31 adults are under some form of correctional control, counting prison, jail, parole and probation populations.

Even shithole 3rd World Countries don't have as many felons as 1st World America.
G_Tard is right. Everybody should call their congressman and ask what they intend to do about the n/i/g/g/e/r problem in this country.
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Hedgehog on August 13, 2013, 01:10:53 PM
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With only 5% of the world’s population, the U.S. has 25% of the world’s prison population – that makes us the world’s largest jailer.
Since 1970, our prison population has risen 700%.
One in 99 adults are living behind bars in the U.S. This marks the highest rate of imprisonment in American history.
One in 31 adults are under some form of correctional control, counting prison, jail, parole and probation populations.

Even shithole 3rd World Countries don't have as many felons as 1st World America.

St Kitts got Beef it Betil Fox.

Betil > US felons.
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: The Hunter on August 13, 2013, 01:13:13 PM
St Kitts got Beef it Betil Fox.

Betil > US felons.
Well look what the cat dragged in. How was your time, convict?
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Hedgehog on August 13, 2013, 01:16:07 PM
Well look what the cat dragged in. How was your time, convict?

Not bad, not bad. ;D


Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: arce1988 on August 13, 2013, 03:49:26 PM
prison–industrial complex (PIC)
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: JBGRAY on August 13, 2013, 05:08:28 PM
Prison = Free Housing for Blacks and Hispanics
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: beakdoctor on August 13, 2013, 06:08:29 PM
All these conspiracy theories....The so called prison industrial complex doesn't generate money. It costs money. The only people who get rich from it are greedy ass lawyers.
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Archer77 on August 13, 2013, 06:18:03 PM
All these conspiracy theories....The so called prison industrial complex doesn't generate money. It costs money. The only people who get rich from it are greedy ass lawyers.

Corporations are increasing becoming involved in the business of prison management and they are making a profit and their profits will only increase.  Its not a conspiracy and quite fascinating when you read about it.   
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: arce1988 on August 13, 2013, 07:11:09 PM
http://www.truth-out.org/progressive-picks/item/16003-the-prison-industrial-complex-the-pac-man-that-destroys-lives
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: thebrink on August 13, 2013, 07:19:48 PM
big business in jailing blacks

cash cow
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: G_Thang on August 13, 2013, 11:25:24 PM
G_Tard is right. Everybody should call their congressman and ask what they intend to do about the n/i/g/g/e/r problem in this country.

866 posts more and you will matter.  ::)
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Mawse on August 13, 2013, 11:34:19 PM
All these conspiracy theories....The so called prison industrial complex doesn't generate money. It costs money. The only people who get rich from it are greedy ass lawyers.

When you socialize the costs ie bill the taxpayer and keep the money that comes in it doesn't matter how much money it loses. It's the American (Obama) dream in a microcosm.

All the parasites make money off it, including so called liberal politicians
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Master Blaster on August 13, 2013, 11:35:49 PM
I don't want some of these shit bags running loose.

DO THE TIME.
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Rami on August 13, 2013, 11:38:06 PM
There should be ways to extract some usefulness out of this large prison population
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: ESFitness on August 13, 2013, 11:39:51 PM
All these conspiracy theories....The so called prison industrial complex doesn't generate money. It costs money. The only people who get rich from it are greedy ass lawyers.

Depends on the prison.

Super-max, Max, maybe... but medium, medium-low, low, and trustee units easily net profit. Cheap labor. They produce goods/services akin to sweat-shops that easily cover overhead.
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Parker on August 13, 2013, 11:47:46 PM
big business in jailing blacks

cash cow
Yep, and today's hip hop and "urban culture" are unwitting conspirators in this.
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 14, 2013, 12:05:47 AM
Not bad, not bad. ;D




Welcome back shit head.  There were a few changes while you were away.
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: missile on August 14, 2013, 02:35:20 AM
But what can u expect for a nation of convicts?
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Archer77 on August 14, 2013, 05:04:03 AM
Depends on the prison.

Super-max, Max, maybe... but medium, medium-low, low, and trustee units easily net profit. Cheap labor. They produce goods/services akin to sweat-shops that easily cover overhead.

This.  They hire cheap, substandard and inexperienced labor. These prisons are also often understaffed.
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: beakdoctor on August 14, 2013, 07:48:08 AM
Corporations are increasing becoming involved in the business of prison management and they are making a profit and their profits will only increase.  Its not a conspiracy and quite fascinating when you read about it.   

Expand on this please, what corporations are involved? As far as I understand it Tax dollars pay for state and county jails. The fact that the people locked up don't pay taxes makes it even more of a money losing situation.
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: youandme on August 14, 2013, 07:57:12 AM
It tried to be "big business" several times and failed. Corporate would rather the jobs just be taken overseas, rather than play politics. The hoops businesses had to jump through to help keep jobs here (prison jobs but jobs nonetheless) was ridiculous with all of the red tape bueracracy.

The big business in prison and jail systems is the jail bidding contracts themselves (food, telecom, garments, etc.)

It's not so much a crisis or epidemic of  the prison system as it is a realization that society has increased it's population of non law abiding citizens and allowed an Emilie Durkheim theory of anomie (degrading of social rules, norms, mores). You now have an abundant amount of people that do not respect society, so they end up in the prison system because the court has no other recourse.

Expand on this please, what corporations are involved? As far as I understand it Tax dollars pay for state and county jails. The fact that the people locked up don't pay taxes makes it even more of a money losing situation.

Sysco as an example of the food contracts.

Avaya/Cisco/Nortel as an example of the telecomunications of the telecom contracts.

Weapon contracts

Garment contracts

Chemical cleaning supplies coontracts

List goes on.
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: littledumbells on August 14, 2013, 08:35:17 AM
you're forgetting about "Prison Industries".

There are prison's that have "housing" jobs for inmates. They build roughly 40 houses a year (3 a month) and sell them for $35k-45k, while paying the inmates $.25/hour to build them. Then the inmates turn around and spend that money in prison commissary for items marked up 100-300% (over $4 for a jar of generic peanut butter that costs $1.60, $.58 for Ramen noodles, $3.50 for a $1.50 bag o generic bbq chips, $2.50 for a loaf of $1.20 bread, almost $5 for a bag of $2.80 generic instant coffee, ect, ect, ect...)... and not to mention the monopoly on the phone company's, where a 20min long distance call costs over $7 and a local call costs over $4 with a $3 connection fee. So if your call 'somehow' gets cut off after 1 minute, you gotta call back and your 20 min phone call costs $10 total (2 connection fees).

many times, especially in small towns where the prison is THE main 'industry', the prison officials (warden and secretary of corrections) are investors in the companies that supply the commissary as well as long-distance phone service providers.

   We also have the "pre" prison industrial complex that is a huge employer and not likely to go away.......the DEA and other such businesses.
And businesses they are, feeding at the taxpayer trough
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 14, 2013, 07:29:29 PM
The Netherlands is closing prisons due to a serious prisoner shortage

osing eight prisons (and sadly, cutting 1,200 jobs) because a drop in crime has left the country with a dearth of criminals. It's a reversal from the 1990s, when the prison system was overcrowded, but now the country's all set up for 14,000 prisoners, and only has 12,000 actually incarcerated. The Dutch justice ministry expects the crime rate to keep falling, so the Netherlands is working on an agreement with Belgium to import some 500 Belgian prisoners to the Netherlands' Tilburg prison. This is officially the least-American national problem ever. [Source]

http://now.msn.com/netherlands-closing-prisons-due-to-lack-of-prisoners

Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: thebrink on August 14, 2013, 07:39:09 PM
Yep, and today's hip hop and "urban culture" are unwitting conspirators in this.

yes, today's "hip hop"  ::)

just a bunch of puppets teaching the impressionable black youth how to sell crack rocks and defy police, end up locked up and off the streets. this is not what hip hop is supposed to be about
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: ESFitness on August 14, 2013, 08:10:34 PM
Expand on this please, what corporations are involved? As far as I understand it Tax dollars pay for state and county jails. The fact that the people locked up don't pay taxes makes it even more of a money losing situation.

ok.. take a state agency... say... the texas board of accountancy.

now, the texas board of accountancy has to have archives of all their documents.. all applications... all credentials.. all transcripts.. all diplomas...disciplinary reports... ect.... everything.

for these archives, they need digital as well as micro-film copies.

now, these are thousands upon thousands of documents that need to be archived each year. each document needs to be filmed and scanned and developed and proofed and stored.

this is a time consuming and tedious job... also a skilled job working with german zeutschel cameras that cost 10's of thousands of dollars.... the state agency would expect to pay $15-20/hour for that job.

so what happens? the prison gets paid 50% of that (7.5-10/hr per worker) and pays the inmate $.25. So 100 hours for only $25... whereas out of that 100hrs, the prison makes $725-$875 PER WORKER... ususally there are 15-20 if not more, workers.

this is true for the majority of prison industries.... some prison industries even pay minimum wage... or close to it... because the can afford to because they bill $30+.

and yes, if you make money in prison, enough to qualify to pay tax... you will pay tax.

if you're 'indigent' and don't have any money... you can order shampoo and razors and toothpaste on commissary, but you will OWE the prison for it... and as soon as you get a 'job' (prison job, not when you get out) or you get some money sent in from friends/fam, the prison will take their cut.
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 14, 2013, 08:28:14 PM
If you ask me, it's a pretty sad day when the state can own slaves but private citizens can't.  :-\
Title: Re: Prison Crisis in America
Post by: haider on August 14, 2013, 08:29:49 PM
St Kitts got Beef it Betil Fox.

Betil > US felons.
:o