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Title: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: 240 is Back on January 05, 2006, 09:34:14 AM
Alright guys, let's build a list of all the possibilities of outcomes for this Titus trial, (including sentences as tie-breakers perhaps) and build up an office pool. 

Entry fee can be 20 bucks, and we can get Ron or someone trusted to hold it all for a small share.

The first to respond on this thread get first pick on the spots on the game board.

Speak on it!

Craig
plead- no time
plead -  0 to 5 years
plead - 5 to 10 years
plead 10 to 15 years
plead 15-20 etc etc

Not guilty - walk
Guilty - probation
Guilty - 0-5 years
Guilty 5-10 years
Guilty 10-15 years
Guilty 15-20 years
etc etc
Then death row, as well.

Same stuff Kelly too?

We gotta build all the possibilities before people start calling spots.
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: G o a t b o y on January 05, 2006, 10:48:02 AM
Craig - guilty- 20 to life.

Kelly - plead - 5 to 10 years.
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 05, 2006, 11:15:22 AM
how many years extra for special circumstances of burning a corpse
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: Tre on January 05, 2006, 11:46:58 AM

Craig - guilty of something 5-10 years, primarily on the parole violation - he's a free man by Spring 2010, but he isn't allowed to vote anymore

Kelly - the arson charge doesn't stick, so she gets credit for time served and never sees another day in prison
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 05, 2006, 11:51:45 AM
this will be fun to review after sentence is read in open court
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: midknight on January 05, 2006, 12:54:04 PM
Craig – Accessory to Murder: (pleads, but gives up Kelly) - 5 to 10 years.

Kelly – Murder 1: plead - w/ special circumstances (burning and pre med) guilty- life no parole
 :o
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: G o a t b o y on January 05, 2006, 12:57:12 PM
Craig - guilty of something 5-10 years, primarily on the parole violation - he's a free man by Spring 2010, but he isn't allowed to vote anymore

Kelly - the arson charge doesn't stick, so she gets credit for time served and never sees another day in prison


So you're saying you actually believe the whole, "we didn't kill her, she OD'ed" BS story?

Wow.
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: tommywishbone on January 05, 2006, 02:07:03 PM
I'm in.

Craig pleads 5-10
Kelly pleads  5-10

Where do I send my 20 bucks?
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: Mr. Zimbabwe on January 05, 2006, 02:23:47 PM
Where do I send my 20 bucks?

I'll PM you with my address, Tommy!!! Cash or money order.
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 05, 2006, 02:46:45 PM
proceeds to charity
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: buffalo on January 05, 2006, 04:01:07 PM
chicks who "OD" don't need to be tied up, gagged...oh yeah and they don't need to be strangled either..... ::)
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: bigmikecox on January 05, 2006, 04:11:50 PM
Alright guys, let's build a list of all the possibilities of outcomes for this Titus trial, (including sentences as tie-breakers perhaps) and build up an office pool. 

Entry fee can be 20 bucks, and we can get Ron or someone trusted to hold it all for a small share.

The first to respond on this thread get first pick on the spots on the game board.

Speak on it!

Craig
plead- no time
plead -  0 to 5 years
plead - 5 to 10 years
plead 10 to 15 years
plead 15-20 etc etc

Not guilty - walk
Guilty - probation
Guilty - 0-5 years
Guilty 5-10 years
Guilty 10-15 years
Guilty 15-20 years
etc etc
Then death row, as well.

Same stuff Kelly too?

We gotta build all the possibilities before people start calling spots.

Craig:     10-15

Kelly: 0-5
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: comedyboy on January 05, 2006, 04:42:16 PM
Whatever Kelly gets Craig will complain that it wasn't a high enough sentence.  Kelly will stay after to talk to the judges to see how she could do better next time.
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: G o a t b o y on January 05, 2006, 05:06:52 PM
chicks who "OD" don't need to be tied up, gagged...oh yeah and they don't need to be strangled either..... ::)

That's the whole thing... the autopsy has already been done: she died of strangulation... she didn't OD. So someone is gonna do a lot of time for this; she didn't strangle herself.

Assuming this was the result of a spur-of-the-moment rage, which the cause of death would seem to support, the lack of premeditation would take the death penalty or even life w/o parole off the table.

So, if the "doer" is craig, I'm guessing he does around 20 years (of a 20-life sentance) given his past criminal history.

If Kelly rolls on him and convinces the prosecutors she wasn't involved until afterwards, she prolly won't serve much more than 5 years.


This all assumes that Craig did the deed. It Kelly did it, or if Kelly fails to turn on Craig, this obviously changes things a lot.
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 05, 2006, 05:21:01 PM
as of right now

 titus  guilty with special circumstances  35 years

i'm a strict enforcer  :)
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: tommywishbone on January 05, 2006, 05:52:12 PM
I'll PM you with my address, Tommy!!! Cash or money order.

Oh no you didn't! You tryin' to steal my money Grant. Of course you know this means war.

See you in the gym...

T
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: buffalo on January 05, 2006, 05:54:08 PM
I'm with you on this one Goatboy... depending on whether evidence can show any kind of pre-meditation will determine the chance of death penalty...and if it was an act of out of control rage w/o pre-med...then he should get life with no parole
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: rocket on January 05, 2006, 08:33:47 PM
Craig 10-15
Kelly 5-10
3rd guy 0-5
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: 240 is Back on January 05, 2006, 08:36:35 PM
oh shit, the 3rd guy. i forgot the x-factor in all of this.
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: gmflex on January 05, 2006, 08:42:25 PM
I'm in also !!

Set-up it up in a pay pal account where all of us can deposit ;D

By the way I'm still analyzing the situation/ years 8)
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: G o a t b o y on January 06, 2006, 12:09:02 AM
oh shit, the 3rd guy. i forgot the x-factor in all of this.

Probation. He cut a deal, plus it sounds like he really didn't do much anyway.
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: Karl Kox on January 06, 2006, 07:43:58 AM
LIFE
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2006, 09:38:45 AM
Craig - Plead - 10-15 (basically life)

Kelly - Guilty - 10-15

Third guy - plead 0-5
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 06, 2006, 09:39:37 AM
hang on...  is it $20 per bet i.e. $20 for Craig, $20 for Kelly, $20 for 3rd guy or $20 for all three?

Will Ron volunteer to hold our money?
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: Irish Power on January 06, 2006, 10:01:36 AM
Titus will do 20 yrs of a life sentence

Kelly will do 5 yrs of a 15 sentence

third guy will do 3 years

How old will Titus be if this is true when he gets out? 62?
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: gh15 on January 06, 2006, 11:26:30 AM
the murderer: death chamber (will be executed by the year 2020)

the ugly wife: since she did not murder the girl (the ugly wife is not strong enough she is a very small fragile narcotic user and the victim would take her hands down in a fight): 15-20 years

the kid (since he is right now talking about the murderer and work with the state): 0 years - probation


** the ugly wife will not be allowed in the fitness industry in any shape or form when she is out of prison at age 50.

Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: midknight on January 06, 2006, 11:31:00 AM

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** the ugly wife will not be allowed in the fitness industry in any shape or form when she is out of prison at age 50.
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(http://kellyryanonline.com/images/gallery/bg20.jpg) who you calling ugly?


 ;D :P
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: gh15 on January 06, 2006, 11:38:12 AM
(http://kellyryanonline.com/images/gallery/bg20.jpg) who you calling ugly?


 ;D :P

lets see what you are showing me here...

a girl that her hair looks like shit due to the use of winstrol and primo non stop (even after touchup of a pro shot)

a girl that got the worst face in the world (nose in particular)

a girl that got no butt and trying to enhance it by the green crap she wears and by the pose she is told to stand at

a girl that has fake boobs

a girl that has one of the worst bone structures i have seen

now take the girl and make her an old transexual looking woman due to the addition of narcotics (in particular CRYSTAL METH, COCAINE), and there you have it: an ugly wife :)
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: midknight on January 06, 2006, 11:54:17 AM
yeah, but she'll have a lot of "fans" in prison.... :'( :o
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: bigdumbbell on January 06, 2006, 03:07:38 PM
Titus will do 20 yrs of a life sentence

Kelly will do 5 yrs of a 15 sentence

third guy will do 3 years

How old will Titus be if this is true when he gets out? 62?

if he gets 35 years he'll be 77
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: Rome on January 07, 2006, 03:59:33 PM
Craig is a convicted felon, he'll do a minimum of 10 years. NO parole before then.
Kelly will get 3-5  :)
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: onlyme on January 07, 2006, 06:46:11 PM
The kid will be out on probabtion.  Hell they let him go on $13,000 bail.  He already plea bargained.  I don't think hehas any type of crimminal record does he.  Kelly will get accessory with 5-10 with possibility of parole.  Titus will get 15 to 35 with no parole.  They just didn't murder the girl they tried to burn her.  And has it been proven yet if she was alive in the trunk prior to the burning.  They may be able to tell if their is smoke in the lungs and/or carbon monoxide in the blood
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: Pablo Eskapan on January 08, 2006, 01:33:06 AM
Kelly = 10-15
Craig = 5-10
Anthony = 0

I was thinking craig for 5...and as i went to type it I dropped my fork and it landed on the keyboard and pressed a 5 on it's own...could this be a sign? :)
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: G o a t b o y on January 08, 2006, 10:33:08 AM
They just didn't murder the girl they tried to burn her.  And has it been proven yet if she was alive in the trunk prior to the burning.  They may be able to tell if their is smoke in the lungs and/or carbon monoxide in the blood

If she was alive in the trunk that changes everything... it's now premeditated murder, and Craig's up for the death penalty. That won't happen, though, as she wasn't alive. The autoposy showed she died of strangulation, not smoke inhalation.
Title: Re: The Titus Trial Office Pool
Post by: buffalo on January 08, 2006, 03:31:01 PM
well actually...according to the autopsy report, the official cause of death was asphyxiation...which can also include death due to smoke inhalation or anything that obstructs the flow of oxygen to the lungs...but the complete report would definitelky show whether or not there was any smoke in the lungs...we would need to know further details

depending on the condition of the skin and eyes..petechial hemorraging on the throat or in the eyes can be witnessed as well as any fracture or breakage of the hyoid bone..all of which would indicate some forme of strangulation..whether by hand or by ligature