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https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained
the claim tens of thousands of prople were involved in the trials
I dont know anyone who took part in any trials...
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https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained
the claim tens of thousands of prople were involved in the trials
I dont know anyone who took part in any trials...
I do
my brothers in laws and their adult children (all in Texas) participated in the Pfizer trials
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I don't care how successful the trials were....
We have ABSOLUTELY NO LONG TERM DATA on this vaccine which makes it risky for the average healthy individual. I do see value for those in the high risk groups.
I'm sick of people forcing this thing on healthy people. Get it if you want, but try to persecute me for passing on it
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I don't care how successful the trials were....
We have ABSOLUTELY NO LONG TERM DATA on this vaccine which makes it risky for the average healthy individual. I do see value for those in the high risk groups.
I'm sick of people forcing this thing on healthy people. Get it if you want, but try to persecute me for passing on it
who is persecuting you for passing on it?
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I don't care how successful the trials were....
We have ABSOLUTELY NO LONG TERM DATA on this vaccine which makes it risky for the average healthy individual. I do see value for those in the high risk groups.
I'm sick of people forcing this thing on healthy people. Get it if you want, but try to persecute me for passing on it
This. people are suddenly forgetting why drug approvals are so hard to get. Long term data is the most important part of the process.
Ask yourself why all the pharm companies involved have been freed from the possibility of lawsuits.
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my brothers in laws and their adult children (all in Texas) participated in the Pfizer trials
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this is not a 'vaccine'.
what u r allowing to b introduced into your body is an experimental gene therapy/transgenesis experiment – the genetic modifications r inheritable, patentable and life changing.
all who subject themselves to this grand genetic experiment (and dont die) will b altered and owned... some kind of fuked up chimeric gmo.. this abominable state will b passed along to their offspring (if there was enough time for such a thing, lol)
as well as a combination of sinister technologies that will further alter and tie u into a very bad 'system' for the short duration of your tard 'life'.
plus, after 'vaccination'... u will become much more ill upon encountering the rona normally than u would have otherwise.
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"The long-terms trials are going on right now...on those that got vaccinated."
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I do
my brothers in laws and their adult children (all in Texas) participated in the Pfizer trials
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who is persecuting you for passing on it?
Is anyone allowed to publicly state they aren't getting the vaccine without being cancelled by the woke mob?
Lebron wouldn't even admit he wasn't getting it.
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The fact it’s not one and done and that you’ll need booster shots at least every six months is bullshit.
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All these different companies offering “a” vaccine clearly have differing “proprietary recipes”. Why else some being temporarily halted, some requiring only one injection, some needing very cold storage, all with differing estimated effectiveness, etc., etc., etc.
No health agency in any country really has a clue what’s going on. Hell, different health agencies in my own country have opposing feelings/recommendations about each of the several potions on offer.
Now allegedly there are all these new strains (oh, brother) with some “experts” saying the vaccines possibly won’t work on them.
I just marvel at all the sheep blindly rushing to have a needle, containing satan-knows-what, jabbed into their bodies.
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I never initiate conversations about this in the real world, as... well... who cares?! ;D But I have one friend in particular who seems to have assembled some almost paradoxical viewpoints. For example (and I paraphrase)
The UK government is a bunch of complete amateurs in total shambles that can't do anything right and falls out with every other government or agency
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Is a key strategic player in a sophisticated global network that is in complete agreement and is carrying out a complex and detailed plan to achieve... 'something' (this changes day to day from de-population to mind-control, removal of cash, great reset, no owned assets, etc)
Masking, lockdown, social distancing and shielding are bullsh1t and not needed if you have no underlying health conditions (which is the case for him) and society should go back to normal
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His employer is insulting him and asking him to risk his life by asking him if he'd like to go back to working in an office
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He flips the f*ck out at people who stand near to him in shops, or when delivery guys hand parcels directly to him
The death rate of the virus is so low that it is stupid to be afraid of it
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The death rate of the vaccine (which is lower) is high enough that it is tantamount to murdering people asking them to take it
He is disgusted that people are being forced to take the vaccine (I'm not sure how/by who)
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He is angry that he has not been offered a vaccine yet as he is only 48 and has no health conditions
The NHS has been lying about the number of COVID patients, and the hospitals have been virtually empty for 12 months
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The government are a bunch of bastards for not honouring our NHS heroes with a decent pay-rise for all of the death and trauma that they've been through with COVID over the last year
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The one I see here the most in New York City is liberals bragging about getting the vaccine yet at the same time these people are Bernie Bros and Girls who until a year ago hated big pharma with a passion.
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I never initiate conversations about this in the real world, as... well... who cares?! ;D But I have one friend in particular who seems to have assembled some almost paradoxical viewpoints. For example (and I paraphrase)
The UK government is a bunch of complete amateurs in total shambles that can't do anything right and falls out with every other government or agency
And
Is a key strategic player in a sophisticated global network that is in complete agreement and is carrying out a complex and detailed plan to achieve... 'something' (this changes day to day from de-population to mind-control, removal of cash, great reset, no owned assets, etc)
Masking, lockdown, social distancing and shielding are bullsh1t and not needed if you have no underlying health conditions (which is the case for him) and society should go back to normal
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His employer is insulting him and asking him to risk his life by asking him if he'd like to go back to working in an office
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He flips the f*ck out at people who stand near to him in shops, or when delivery guys hand parcels directly to him
The death rate of the virus is so low that it is stupid to be afraid of it
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The death rate of the vaccine (which is lower) is high enough that it is tantamount to murdering people asking them to take it
He is disgusted that people are being forced to take the vaccine (I'm not sure how/by who)
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He is angry that he has not been offered a vaccine yet as he is only 48 and has no health conditions
The NHS has been lying about the number of COVID patients, and the hospitals have been virtually empty for 12 months
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The government are a bunch of bastards for not honouring our NHS heroes with a decent pay-rise for all of the death and trauma that they've been through with COVID over the last year
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You need to get this guy posting here!
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Is anyone allowed to publicly state they aren't getting the vaccine without being cancelled by the woke mob?
Lebron wouldn't even admit he wasn't getting it.
I'm not aware of anyone but I guess you must be so give me some examples you can actually document
or you can just answer my first question and tell us who is persecuting YOU for not getting the vaccine
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It's all bullshit, like all of your other unfounded, baseless bullshit. Typical democrat.
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I'm not aware of anyone but I guess you must be so give me some examples you can actually document
or you can just answer my first question and tell us who is persecuting YOU for not getting the vaccine
https://www.indiewire.com/2020/12/letitia-wright-anti-vax-outrage-questions-covid-vaccine-1234602465/
I'm done here....Can you please pick up the mic?
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Watch the intro from the 1st Starship Troopers movie. BTW, guess the one person in the video with absolutely no talent.
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https://www.indiewire.com/2020/12/letitia-wright-anti-vax-outrage-questions-covid-vaccine-1234602465/
I'm down here....Can you please pick up the mic?
It’s amazing how liberals and leftists are on the wrong side of every fucking issue. Here you have an actual example of medical fascism and liberals can’t bend over fast enough to defend this shit.
As an aside, Twitter has got to be the worst fucking social media site of all time. Nothing but unemployable losers bitching about politics. It’s basically a fucking social networking site for the strawman’s of the world. She was smart to delete her account.
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Watch the intro from the 1st Starship Troopers movie. BTW, guess the one person in the video with absolutely no talent.
Would you like to know more? ;D
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Why
It’s amazing how liberals and leftists are on the wrong side of every fucking issue
this is why there is no hope for humanity.
mankind is utterly blind... pointless husks of squandered potential led by the nose, on their best day.
where is the value?
humanity is wholly useless at this point
useless things r discarded
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Never thought I'd see the day where people on this site would be against injectables ;D
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Never thought I'd see the day where people on this site would be against injectables ;D
Ha! Nice catch.
Injecting underground steroids made in a bath is OK but a pharma grade vaccine is not.
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I'm just not getting it.
If they try to make it mandatory, Florida or Texas here we come.
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It had to be rushed. We couldn't have waited the years that it takes for vaccines and drugs to come to market. The vaccine was tested in huge numbers compared to the majority of drugs and vaccines. Approximately 40K each. the mRNA technology isn't new tech. It's been around for many years.
Like someone else wrote. Guy's here will take steroids from questionable sources just because the box, insert and vial look legit when it was made in China in some dirty hell hole stirred with a shoe in the vat.
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It had to be rushed. We couldn't have waited the years that it takes for vaccines and drugs to come to market. The vaccine was tested in huge numbers compared to the majority of drugs and vaccines. Approximately 40K each. the mRNA technology isn't new tech. It's been around for many years.
Like someone else wrote. Guy's here will take steroids from questionable sources just because the box, insert and vial look legit when it was made in China in some dirty hell hole stirred with a shoe in the vat.
Don’t be a mark. What if there were no vaccine? Would we shut down society forever over a flu bug that doesn’t kill anybody except 80 year olds? No. We’d be doing the exact same thing that we’re doing now. It’s a big pharma scam. Nothing more.
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who is persecuting you for passing on it?
in the UK they are looking at passports to get into shops and hospitality establishments, if you dont have proof of vaccine you cant go in
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You need to get this guy posting here!
without seeing his hands his posts would be pointless...
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Ha! Nice catch.
Injecting underground steroids made in a bath is OK but a pharma grade vaccine is not.
If the government wants to throw in a lifetime supply of test, I’ll consider it.
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It's all about making it appear that the West is vaccinated and the poor Black sub Saharan peoples all die soon because they couldn't afford vaccines. Otherwise we will all realise that the African wipe out of life is a planned genocide. Funny how low the current African death rate from covid19 is just now.
Yet 2 billion will get it and die over the next 12 months. As soon as we are all vaccinated of course. ;)
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It's all about making it appear that the West is vaccinated and the poor Black sub Saharan peoples all die soon because they couldn't afford vaccines. Otherwise we will all realise that the African wipe out of life is a planned genocide. Funny how low the current African death rate from covid19 is just now.
Yet 2 billion will get it and die over the next 12 months. As soon as we are all vaccinated of course. ;)
they dont have an obesity epidemic like the USA and Europe.
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A year ago testing was the key to restarting the economy. Now it’s vaccines. I’ve lost track of all the inconsistencies and times the goal posts have moved and yet so many people just buy all the bullshit without question.
Covid-19 Testing Is Key to Restarting Economy as U.S. Cases Top 400,000 - Barron's
https://www.barrons.com/articles/covid-19-testing-is-key-to-restarting-economy-as-u-s-cases-top-400-000-51586350044
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in the UK they are looking at passports to get into shops and hospitality establishments, if you dont have proof of vaccine you cant go in
Initiate an Islamic resistance. Declare it haram. Then grow a beard, paint you and your mates brown, and storm the grocery. 2 birds.
Man, I shoulda worked for the CIA.
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I got the Moderna last week. The joint and muscle pain was brutal. Weird tingling and chill in my arms.
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they dont have an obesity epidemic like the USA and Europe.
In the poorest areas they have malnutrition which should trigger positive test results. That’s happened with AIDS when Africa became the so-called epicenter.
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I got the Moderna last week. The joint and muscle pain was brutal. Weird tingling and chill in my arms.
Weird. My old man got it and reported hardly any ill effects. His wife got a different one and suffered terribly.
I'd like to see data on the side effects by brand, age, etc. Or maybe it's all random.
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Weird. My old man got it and reported hardly any ill effects. His wife got a different one and suffered terribly.
I'd like to see data on the side effects by brand, age, etc. Or maybe it's all random.
Any vast differences in metabolic health between the two?
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Any vast differences in metabolic health between the two?
One is 83 and the other is early 60s. One has round eyes and the other one is kinda squinty.
Both are healthy but step mom is really into cycling, kale, blueberries, 4 serves of fish a week, etc. Dad has been slowing down, so he's off the bike but still on his feet. Neither overweight.
I've heard just a passing internet mention of immune over reaction as a criticism of the vaccine, which is likely nonsense. Still, I found it interesting pop tolerated his shot way better than his megahealth wife, although they were different brands so can't really be compared.
You'd think by now we'd be seeing some data on sides... or not, for some non-nefarious reason. The Reddit echo chamber is pretty funny. "I was only off work for 4 days, racked with spasms and excruciating joint pains, but the emergency room doctor assured me I was in perfect health. So glad I did it! Just take it!"
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I got the Moderna last week. The joint and muscle pain was brutal. Weird tingling and chill in my arms.
I'm sick of the 24 hr joint pain and mRNA crowds. "F" off! We are talking about mutations such as gamete deformities and placenta spikes, talking about remnant code that could rewrite a cancerous cell. What are potential long-term side effects on a eumelanin genome? Really fishy for an industry geneticist pushing the vaccine on women of color but suggesting his wife and daughter don't need it. Conspiracy my a$$! This country has a history of putting bullshit in syringes.
BTW, the rabies vaccine is mRNA-based, but it took 3-4 yrs before market approval. "F" outta here!
Jimmy-rigged flu in which you need a test to even know you have it if you are healthy but should get a vaccine. What kind of scifi bullshit is that!
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I'm sick of the 24 hr joint pain and mRNA crowds. "F" off!
Are you accusing LittleJ of lying?
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I'm not getting it. If I was 70+ I would.
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I'm not getting it. If I was 70+ I would.
Had shot #1
MASSIVELY improved erections
Would recommend
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I hear you still catch COVID even with the shot?
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Had shot #1
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Pics?
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Had shot #1
MASSIVELY improved erections
Would recommend
Maybe i'll get it after all. ;D
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I won't get the vaccine until forced to.
I travel a lot for work so i know it's just a matter of time before our Communist government makes it a requirement.
It's funny how people here in my state are bragging about it. Like it's a cool thing to do. Then they leave their houses and realize 75% of the state is still fucking closed. ;D
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I don't care how successful the trials were....
We have ABSOLUTELY NO LONG TERM DATA on this vaccine which makes it risky for the average healthy individual. I do see value for those in the high risk groups.
I'm sick of people forcing this thing on healthy people. Get it if you want, but try to persecute me for passing on it
The lack of long term data for the COVID vaccines is concerning. There is long term data for vaccines available at the time of the outbreak of the COVID pandemic. Unfortunately, these vaccines proved ineffective. Thus new vaccines were developed.
There is nothing new about mandated vaccines in the U.S. and elsewhere around the world. For decades, all 50 states have required that parents vaccinate their children against various diseases, including polio and measles, as a prerequisite to enrolling them in public schools.
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If the government wants to throw in a lifetime supply of test, I’ll consider it.
Lol.... Fair enough. If you have health insurance in the U.S., I think you’re covered if a blood test indicates low T.
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Lol.... Fair enough. If you have health insurance in the U.S., I think you’re covered if a blood test indicates low T.
My TRT is covered 100%.
But i'll take a few extra vials a month for free. ;D
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My TRT is covered 100%.
But i'll take a few extra vials a month for free. ;D
Lol.... Good for you. I’m apprehensive about it due to prostate issues. Had a scare a few years ago and just don’t want to take the risk. I’m probably overthinking it.
I got the impression they will just cover the bare minimum amount to get “normal” levels anyhow.
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Lol.... Good for you. I’m apprehensive about it due to prostate issues. Had a scare a few years ago and just don’t want to take the risk. I’m probably overthinking it.
I got the impression they will just cover the bare minimum amount to get “normal” levels anyhow.
Prostrate issues? What would those be? Cancer? Recent studies say otherwise.
There is no clear evidence that elevations in endogenous testosterone levels promote the development of prostate cancer in humans. There are a growing number of studies demonstrating no increase in prostate cancer incidence among men on TRT. There has been no discernable increase in disease progression in prostate cancer patients on TRT.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4647137/
I had prostate cancer. It was discovered early on because I was on TRT and testing PSA levels on a regular basis. My doctor presented several options. I chose to have a prostatectomy. This was more than 6 years ago. My PSA levels today are so low they are considered undetectable. I am still on TRT to treat hypogonadism, (low testosterone levels).
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Lol.... Good for you. I’m apprehensive about it due to prostate issues. Had a scare a few years ago and just don’t want to take the risk. I’m probably overthinking it.
I got the impression they will just cover the bare minimum amount to get “normal” levels anyhow.
Depends on how your doctor charges it through insurance. There are ways to get it covered 100% if they deem it necessary for a "medical" condition. My TRT is 200mg a week and completely covered. Blood work every 3 months is also covered.
To get my Test levels in the middle of normal range, it takes 100mg of Test every 7 days. My doctor is an Endocrinologist and knows how to get me approved for more. It's not illegal or unethical. My Test levels at 200mg are still in the appropriate "range", they are just at the very top of it. ;D
Prostate issues are common in all men. But if you monitor everything and only use a small amount of Test, the risk is very very low.
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Prostrate issues? What would those be? Cancer? Recent studies say otherwise.
There is no clear evidence that elevations in endogenous testosterone levels promote the development of prostate cancer in humans. There are a growing number of studies demonstrating no increase in prostate cancer incidence among men on TRT. There has been no discernable increase in disease progression in prostate cancer patients on TRT.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4647137/
I had prostate cancer. It was discovered early on because I was on TRT and testing PSA levels on a regular basis. My doctor presented several options. I chose to have a prostatectomy. This was more than 6 years ago. My PSA levels today are so low they are considered undetectable. I am still on TRT to treat hypogonadism, (low testosterone levels).
The issues were increased risk of prostate cancer. I chose to heed those warnings after a scare a while back.
How do you know the TRT didn't cause or contribute to your illness?
And your PSA numbers should be low if you had a portion or all of your prostate removed.
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I got the Moderna last week. The joint and muscle pain was brutal. Weird tingling and chill in my arms.
RIP
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RIP
Still here ;D
Most of the side effects went away after a week
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Weird. My old man got it and reported hardly any ill effects. His wife got a different one and suffered terribly.
I'd like to see data on the side effects by brand, age, etc. Or maybe it's all random.
I have Chronic Hepatitis B. I don't know if that played into it or not.
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I have Chronic Hepatitis B.
RIP
yes, this one will likely die sooner, rather than later.
this goes beyond arrogantly ignorant stupidity... these lost souls have a death wish on some level.
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Pics?
Hahaha - you're supposed to then add, "asking for a friend" ;D
Maybe i'll get it after all. ;D
And the last thing you need young man is anything that gets you up to any more shenanigans!
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I'm just not getting it.
If they try to make it mandatory, Florida or Texas here we come.
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I don't believe in any conspiracies regarding the vaccine or think it's especially risky. To me it's just not worth it. You get sick and then you get better. I know several people who go it and they just holed up for a week or two and then it's over. They have developed an immunity. My nephew got it just a couple of weeks ago and he will be visiting with his family next week.
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I don't believe in any conspiracies regarding the vaccine or think it's especially risky. To me it's just not worth it. You get sick and then you get better. I know several people who go it and they just holed up for a week or two and then it's over. They have developed an immunity. My nephew got it just a couple of weeks ago and he will be visiting with his family next week.
I’ve heard this as well. Do we know how long the immunity lasts?
Compared to the 6 month life of the vaccine for many it’s probably better to get the actual virus.
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Depends on how your doctor charges it through insurance. There are ways to get it covered 100% if they deem it necessary for a "medical" condition. My TRT is 200mg a week and completely covered. Blood work every 3 months is also covered.
To get my Test levels in the middle of normal range, it takes 100mg of Test every 7 days. My doctor is an Endocrinologist and knows how to get me approved for more. It's not illegal or unethical. My Test levels at 200mg are still in the appropriate "range", they are just at the very top of it. ;D
Prostate issues are common in all men. But if you monitor everything and only use a small amount of Test, the risk is very very low.
150mg/wk puts me at about 650 ng/ml. I wanted to get more so I can have some stocked away or if my pharmacy is late filling it, which they often are. I currently take 200mg/wk which puts me at the top of the reference range but I am given a script for 300mg/wk. I would just stop taking or drop my dose considerably just before getting tested.
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People get the vaccine and gubmint wins as they get their lab rats.
People don’t get the vaccine then they make it as BS reason to limit gathering sizes.
Everything is a rigged lie and the sheep cheer their demise.
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The issues were increased risk of prostate cancer. I chose to heed those warnings after a scare a while back.
How do you know the TRT didn't cause or contribute to your illness?
And your PSA numbers should be low if you had a portion or all of your prostate removed.
Most current thinking is that TRT does not increase the risk of prostate cancer.
Although there is no way to know whether TRT contributed or caused my prostate cancer. I had only been on TRT for a short while before the cancer was discovered. I have a long history of prostate issues including fluctuating PSA test results. I also had several biopsies over the years, which never showed cancer until the one that did. The cancer was stage 1-2 (don't recall the Gleason score) and the cancer was completely contained within the margins.
My options were, "watchful waiting, hormone therapy, radiation, or the da vinci robotic prostatectomy." Before choosing a course of action, I joined a prostate cancer group (in person....not online). Nobody in the group had been on TRT. The group leader was a married man in his 40's who had a radical prostatectomy. Nobody else had chosen that option. Almost everyone in the group found out they had prostate cancer after it had metastasized. The majority of them had radiation, which effectively kills the prostate. Sadly, some of them were on death watch and during the years I attended the monthly meetings, many died from it.
Here's how I made my final decision. Watchful waiting seemed like waiting to die. Hormone therapy = androgen suppression. Radiation therapy may or may not get all the cancer and has the same downsides as a prostatectomy, such as erectile dysfunction and urinary issues. My conclusion was if the prostate is removed and the cancer was contained within it, chances are I'd be home free....no worries.
Don't misunderstand me. I am not advocating for one choice or another including going on TRT. This is my life and my right to chose how to live it. Others should feel the same way. Having said this, it is a good idea to make informed decisions when it comes to our health and our choices. I care more about my quality of life than I do about how long I live. I feel great on TRT. So far, it has been a good decision.
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the sheep cheer their demise.
boom
thanks to the initial enthusiastic guinea pigs.. in time there will indeed be a horrific body count – and it will drive more dumb dumbs to insist on further 'vaccination'.. which will cause more death and fear.
peeps will demand their own demise, lol.
people r willingly allowing a bio weapon to b injected inside of their body.
think about that.
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Most current thinking is that TRT does not increase the risk of prostate cancer.
Although there is no way to know whether TRT contributed or caused my prostate cancer. I had only been on TRT for a short while before the cancer was discovered. I have a long history of prostate issues including fluctuating PSA test results. I also had several biopsies over the years, which never showed cancer until the one that did. The cancer was stage 1-2 (don't recall the Gleason score) and the cancer was completely contained within the margins.
My options were, "watchful waiting, hormone therapy, radiation, or the da vinci robotic prostatectomy." Before choosing a course of action, I joined a prostate cancer group (in person....not online). Nobody in the group had been on TRT. The group leader was a married man in his 40's who had a radical prostatectomy. Nobody else had chosen that option. Almost everyone in the group found out they had prostate cancer after it had metastasized. The majority of them had radiation, which effectively kills the prostate. Sadly, some of them were on death watch and during the years I attended the monthly meetings, many died from it.
Here's how I made my final decision. Watchful waiting seemed like waiting to die. Hormone therapy = androgen suppression. Radiation therapy may or may not get all the cancer and has the same downsides as a prostatectomy, such as erectile dysfunction and urinary issues. My conclusion was if the prostate is removed and the cancer was contained within it, chances are I'd be home free....no worries.
Don't misunderstand me. I am not advocating for one choice or another including going on TRT. This is my life and my right to chose how to live it. Others should feel the same way. Having said this, it is a good idea to make informed decisions when it comes to our health and our choices. I care more about my quality of life than I do about how long I live. I feel great on TRT. So far, it has been a good decision.
Everybody is different and to each his own, I suppose. I'd be too worried each time the PSA time rolls around each year if I used it. I'll definitely look into the latest findings on TRT and prostate cancer for sure.
Congrats on the decision that worked for you, and continued good health......
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Everybody is different and to each his own, I suppose. I'd be too worried each time the PSA time rolls around each year if I used it. I'll definitely look into the latest findings on TRT and prostate cancer for sure.
Congrats on the decision that worked for you, and continued good health......
Try several times a year for a PSA check up. That was me for many years prior to having no prostate and for several years afterwards. There is comfort in knowing you're on top of a situation, but it also heighten's one's anxiety level. I think it is great that now I only have to do the PSA once a year. Csn't remember when that was the case last.
We do the best we can with the limited and ever changing information available whether it is in regards to our PSA numbers, our diet, our exercise routine and pretty much everything in our lives.
Sharing our experiences is a good thing. Weighing how they relate to each of us is also good. Ultimately, I believe too much information is better than too little.
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why don t u phaggots find a trt thread.
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I know several people who go it and they just holed up for a week or two and then it's over. They have developed an immunity.
no, they have not.
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people r willingly allowing a bio weapon to b injected inside of their body.
think about that.
When should we expect to start seeing people die from the vaccine? If the test subjects were months ago and they haven’t reported any side effects as of yet, when should we see the “canaries” belly up?
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Getting vaccinated is very similar to becoming an IFBB pro.
You go somewhere and have people you don't know or trust shoot untested drugs into your body. If you survive, you get a card with your name on it.
The only difference is that a vaccination card actually means something......lol.
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When should we expect to start seeing people die from the vaccine? If the test subjects were months ago and they haven’t reported any side effects as of yet, when should we see the “canaries” belly up?
Good luck with getting the answer to that one
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no, they have not.
They are not prepared for what is coming!
Their hearts will fail them.
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I’ve heard this as well. Do we know how long the immunity lasts?
Compared to the 6 month life of the vaccine for many it’s probably better to get the actual virus.
As of today there is no 6 month life span of the vaccine. What we know is that the vaccine provides AT LEAST 6 months of protection. As time goes on, they should be able to give a more specific time frame. They are just too new into this that the data is incomplete.
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Zillotch is a complete retard.
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no, they have not.
Better this than bleach or "or perhaps some kind of disinfectant," as Trump said turning to Dr. Deborah Birx who then nervously shuffled her feet and looked down at the floor.
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Zillotch is a complete retard.
x1000.
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It had to be rushed. We couldn't have waited the years that it takes for vaccines and drugs to come to market. The vaccine was tested in huge numbers compared to the majority of drugs and vaccines. Approximately 40K each. the mRNA technology isn't new tech. It's been around for many years.
Like someone else wrote. Guy's here will take steroids from questionable sources just because the box, insert and vial look legit when it was made in China in some dirty hell hole stirred with a shoe in the vat.
Just because you´re a dumb shit does not mean we all have to take it. Back to your steroids rant. just fuck off you retard
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How is it a conspiracy that this is a giant taxpayer funded windfall for big pharmaceutical companies? Seems factual to me.
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I thought this guy was supposed to be England’s Trump. They still have lockdowns and now vaccine passports. He’s the drizzling shits.
Boris Johnson outlines plans to lift U.K. further out of lockdown, introduce vaccine passports
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/boris-johnson-outlines-plans-to-lift-u-k-further-out-of-lockdown-introduce-vaccine-passports-109686853831
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Better this than bleach or "or perhaps some kind of disinfectant," as Trump said turning to Dr. Deborah Birx who then nervously shuffled her feet and looked down at the floor.
Disinfectant does actually kill covid..
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Just as an FYI, the CDC VAERS reporting system that tracks adverse effects from vaccination has as of most recent posted this:
"Over 145 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through March 29, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 2,509 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports. A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths. CDC and FDA will continue to investigate reports of adverse events, including deaths, reported to VAERS."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html)
2,500+ people have died following COVID vaccination. Could it be coincidence with no correlation? Sure, people die all the time for any reason. Do I think it's most likely as a direct result of vaccination? Yes. Can I prove it? No. Will the CDC show the evidence to suggest that there isn't correlation to justify cause? Nope.
It's a matter of the risk you're willing to take. If you're healthy with no major comorbidities, why not give your immune system a chance?
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Disinfectant does actually kill covid..
If you don't have access to viral wipes, you can use a Quaternary ammonium-based disinfectant. They can penetrate the capsid within 1-2 mins.
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The media must be framing the argument 'death from covid' vs 'death from vaccine'. The issue should be immediate and/or delayed side effects from the vaccine(and/or death).
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The media must be framing the argument 'death from covid' vs 'death from vaccine'. The issue should be immediate and/or delayed side effects from the vaccine(or death).
As usual the reality is the opposite of the media narrative:
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I've been saying this all along, I'm not an anti vaxer or whatever they call them but there is no way of knowing if there is long term effects from covid or the vaccine. What if years down the line everyone that has had covid gets lung cancer triggered or something else, what if the vaccine does the same? There isn't one scientist or expert out there than can 100% say that wont happen because there has been no long term monitoring or data.
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The media must be framing the argument 'death from covid' vs 'death from vaccine'. The issue should be immediate and/or delayed side effects from the vaccine(and/or death).
The funny thing is, Hagler's estate can't even sue. Then again, his whale said it wasn't the vaccine, and he passed away with a smile on his face. GTFOH!
(https://kubrick.htvapps.com/htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/images/marvin-hagler-with-wife-1615679078.jpg)
Aubrey Huff ties vaccine to Hank Aaron, Marvin Hagler deaths. No evidence, PolitiFact says
The cause of Aaron’s death was ruled natural and not linked to the COVID-19 vaccine. No cause is identified for Hagler.
So if you get the vaccine and don't have covid but get sick at the time of the vaccine administration, it is ruled a natural death?
GTFOH X 2!
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Just as an FYI, the CDC VAERS reporting system that tracks adverse effects from vaccination has as of most recent posted this:
"Over 145 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through March 29, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 2,509 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports. A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths. CDC and FDA will continue to investigate reports of adverse events, including deaths, reported to VAERS."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html)
2,500+ people have died following COVID vaccination. Could it be coincidence with no correlation? Sure, people die all the time for any reason. Do I think it's most likely as a direct result of vaccination? Yes. Can I prove it? No. Will the CDC show the evidence to suggest that there isn't correlation to justify cause? Nope.
It's a matter of the risk you're willing to take. If you're healthy with no major comorbidities, why not give your immune system a chance?
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Just think that the first couple of months the rollout was to seniors over 80. So 2500 deaths out of 10's of millions is pretty much on par with people that old.
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I'm not a sexist, homophobe, racist, transphobe, anti-communist, a vaxxy-googoo, or anything else that the media can make up to label me in order to make me feel bad but I'm against this unproven vaccine.
Are we good, media? Pleeeeease John Stewart, don't mock me!!
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What kind of fucbio bullshit is this? Give me scientific facts that an asymptomatic person who defeated the virus with a natural immune response is a threat to a person with a synthetic response! GTFOH!
Vaccine hesitancy is a major threat to a fully vaccinated adult population, and children and teens unable to be vaccinated adds to the overall population of unvaccinated individuals by summer. Despite a goal of having 200 million U.S. residents vaccinated in the next 25 days, President Joe Biden's administration is grappling with how to engage adults who are hesitant about or against vaccinations
"F" Off!
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If you get the covid now you deserve it.
People really think vaccines are cures. Is it mixed messages in the media, miss information, or just cognitive dissonance?
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The media shell game:
Everything is a conspiracy theory until it comes to fruition, then you are once again a conspiracy theorist because you still have questions about the thing you feared would happen and ended up happening. :P
(https://i.postimg.cc/0Qgcm5QF/Ey-PZMp-UWUAop-d-T.jpg)
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What kind of fucbio bullshit is this? Give me scientific facts that an asymptomatic person who defeated the virus with a natural immune response is a threat to a person with a synthetic response! GTFOH!
Vaccine hesitancy is a major threat to a fully vaccinated adult population, and children and teens unable to be vaccinated adds to the overall population of unvaccinated individuals by summer. Despite a goal of having 200 million U.S. residents vaccinated in the next 25 days, President Joe Biden's administration is grappling with how to engage adults who are hesitant about or against vaccinations
"F" Off!
This.
The people who are going along with this without question are just cowards who don’t wanna challenge what is obviously a lot of bullshit.
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Disinfectant does actually kill covid..
If you drink or inject disinfectant, it could very well kill COVID and you. You are right of course, disinfectant will kill COVID safely on various surfaces. Hand sanitizers contain various types of disinfectants. I don't advise you lick it off your hands though....it might make you ill.
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If you drink or inject disinfectant, it could very well kill COVID and you. You are right of course, disinfectant will kill COVID safely on various surfaces. Hand sanitizers contain various types of disinfectants. I don't advise you lick it off your hands though....it might make you ill.
Covid can kill you as well.
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Just as an FYI, the CDC VAERS reporting system that tracks adverse effects from vaccination has as of most recent posted this:
"Over 145 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through March 29, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 2,509 reports of death (0.0017%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports. A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths. CDC and FDA will continue to investigate reports of adverse events, including deaths, reported to VAERS."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html)
2,500+ people have died following COVID vaccination. Could it be coincidence with no correlation? Sure, people die all the time for any reason. Do I think it's most likely as a direct result of vaccination? Yes. Can I prove it? No. Will the CDC show the evidence to suggest that there isn't correlation to justify cause? Nope.
It's a matter of the risk you're willing to take. If you're healthy with no major comorbidities, why not give your immune system a chance?
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Just curious, why do you think these 2,500+ people died as a direct result of any of the COVID vaccines? It is possible a few folks die as a result of getting vaccinated, for example if they are allergic to some ingredient and it causes them to go into anaphylactic shock and either epinephrine isn't available or it isn't effective.
I'd be willing to give my immune system a chance if the odds were better of not getting acutely ill from COVID should I contract it. I'm not someone who rushes to take medications, including over-the-counter meds and prescription pain killers. I had my first even flu shot last summer. On the other hand, because I'm prone to getting bacterial/bronchial pneumonia, I get a preventative pneumonia vaccination each year. It works. I have not had a bout of pneumonia or even a cold since.
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If you drink or inject disinfectant, it could very well kill COVID and you. You are right of course, disinfectant will kill COVID safely on various surfaces. Hand sanitizers contain various types of disinfectants. I don't advise you lick it off your hands though....it might make you ill.
But you’ll lick cum sauce off the heads of cocks.
Terrific.
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I've been saying this all along, I'm not an anti vaxer or whatever they call them but there is no way of knowing if there is long term effects from covid or the vaccine. What if years down the line everyone that has had covid gets lung cancer triggered or something else, what if the vaccine does the same? There isn't one scientist or expert out there than can 100% say that wont happen because there has been no long term monitoring or data.
Sure, but to me a more interesting conversation is how come so many have so little trust in the authorities, to a point where some think this vaccine is intentionally made for genocidal purposes. AND, many in the west have said they'd rather take Putin's vaccine. There are reasons there is so little trust, even if these vaccines turn out to have been pretty damn good.
But I'm thinking it would be pretty damn nuts if the Jews made a vaccine to kill off their own population. Insanely quick vaccination campaign in Israel. Who would be behind it, Nazi infiltrators? Maybe David Icke's lizards? :D
I'm sure Zillotch has all the answers to my questions.
I know too little about the science behind this technology to say one way or another what kind of long term risks there might be.
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The better explanation is that it’s a scam with massive amounts of money as the motive.
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The better explanation is that it’s a scam with massive amounts of money as the motive.
But there's also status involved. Kinda like the space race, who has the most successful vaccine?
I mean if the West kills off a bunch of people how does it look for their international standing? I think there are big incentives for having a successful vaccine. Unimaginably huge stakes.
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Sure, but to me a more interesting conversation is how come so many have so little trust in the authorities, to a point where some think this vaccine is intentionally made for genocidal purposes. AND, many in the west have said they'd rather take Putin's vaccine. There are reasons there is so little trust, even if these vaccines turn out to have been pretty damn good.
But I'm thinking it would be pretty damn nuts if the Jews made a vaccine to kill off their own population. Insanely quick vaccination campaign in Israel. Who would be behind it, Nazi infiltrators? Maybe David Icke's lizards? :D
I'm sure Zillotch has all the answers to my questions.
I know too little about the science behind this technology to say one way or another what kind of long term risks there might be.
Governments/politicians the world over have screwed themselves into oblivion after so much insane corruption. It’s never ending.
Any sane and even slightly aware person has essentially zero trust in the political class.
And if you’re smart and reasonably knowing, you recognize governments as enemy.
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But there's also status involved. Kinda like the space race, who has the most successful vaccine?
I mean if the West kills off a bunch of people how does it look for their international standing? I think there are big incentives for having a successful vaccine. Unimaginably huge stakes.
At its core it’s a currency devaluation scheme. So far 20 trillion has been printed worldwide. The real reason for the restrictions is to keep too much money from getting into the system too quickly.
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Just curious, why do you think these 2,500+ people died as a direct result of any of the COVID vaccines? It is possible a few folks die as a result of getting vaccinated, for example if they are allergic to some ingredient and it causes them to go into anaphylactic shock and either epinephrine isn't available or it isn't effective.
Because the medical literature put out by the NIH discussed how this vaccine could likely cause Cytokine storms and numerous other adverse effects. So, it's not like I am just randomly attributing death to the vaccine. Instead, I am making my own educated guess in stating that there are many unfortunate individuals who have succumbed to said adverse effects. Of course, the CDC will not attribute any death to the vaccine, as it's a huge proponent to mass vaccination. The CDC has clearly stated that people do die from vaccines in general (albeit a small number). The fact that, as per their aforementioned statement, "there is no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths"is not just ballsy to assume, but also questions the intelligence of the average person.
These vaccine companies put out a poorly and rapidly tested vaccine, with no data that details possible long-term effects and then the FDA didn't approve the vaccine for the prevention of COVID, but instead approved the emergency use of this product. Couple that with the fact that vaccine companies can not get sued for any adverse effects or even death from these vaccines and it all just starts to smell like shit to me.
Like I said in my original post, death can occur due to any reason and maybe some of those people that received the vaccine died due to unrelated causes, but I do believe that many might have died due to adverse effects from receiving the vaccine.
You have to pick what you will believe in this instance. This is my educated base. The CDC will never grant you access to patient charts and/or provide you with the data that can be refuted.
If you decide to blindly trust the "science" without seeing the evidence, I don't know what to tell you (and by you, I mean anyone).
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At its core it’s a currency devaluation scheme. So far 20 trillion has been printed worldwide. The real reason for the restrictions is to keep too much money from getting into the system too quickly.
Bingo!
Too much of this quantitative easing money (ie Federal Reserve monetizing the debt and the US treasury in turn pumping that money into the US economy & abroad) gets into the hands of ready and willing consumers and then the VELOCITY of money increases and inflation increases, but also the inherent value of the US dollar takes a hit.
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Bingo!
Too much of this quantitative easing money (ie Federal Reserve monetizing the debt and the US treasury in turn pumping that money into the US economy & abroad) gets into the hands of ready and willing consumers and then the VELOCITY of money increases and inflation increases, but also the inherent value of the US dollar takes a hit.
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Here you go. The “Lockdown” is really a spending slowdown.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heath-coronavirus-france-idUSKBN2BC0FW
Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire, who said a total of 90,000 shops would need to close down, defended the list of stores that could remain open, notably those selling chocolate and flowers just two weeks ahead of Easter.
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Zillotch is a complete retard.
how come so many have so little trust in the authorities
I know too little about the science behind this technology to say one way or another
lol... u remind me of that dude on here a while back who was arguing in favor of internment camps.
arrogantly ignorant stupidity
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When should we expect to start seeing people die from the vaccine?
its an individual thing, some have already died - timelines will vary depending on ones particular biology, and the time it takes for the immune system to degrade to the point of complete shutdown – resulting in sepsis / major organ failure / death (long story short)
dna/mrna 'vaccines' r designed to have delayed effect, to allow for sufficient numbers (before the horror show manifests), and achieve the same end result.
remember... say the rona does (or did) not even exist in the wild – it doesn't have to... cuz these 'vaccines' r introducing the bio weapon (the exact, complete genetic sequence of jimmy rigged rona (think 'live virus')) directly into each person dumb enough to allow it.
these people then begin to shed (spread) the virus – creating the very problem they have been told 'inoculation' will solve.
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its an individual thing, some have already died - timelines will vary depending on ones particular biology, and the time it takes for the immune system to degrade to the point of complete shutdown – resulting in sepsis / major organ failure / death (long story short)
remember... say the rona does (or did) not even exist in the wild – it doesn't have to... cuz these 'vaccines' r introducing the bio weapon (the exact, complete genetic sequence of jimmy rigged rona (think 'live virus')) directly into to each person dumb enough to allow it.
these people then begin to shed (spread) the virus – creating the very problem they have been told 'inoculation' will solve.
What do you think the percentages will be? 50% of those vaccinated will die (within a year)?
So the vaccinations will work as a spreading device not as an immune system shut down tool?
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Thought everybody in Texas was going to die after the mask mandates were removed.🤔
COVID-19 Hospitalizations, Cases Continue Dropping in DFW, Across Texas Thursday – NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavirus/covid-19-hospitalizations-cases-continue-dropping-in-dfw-across-texas-thursday/2595409/
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What do you think the percentages will be? 50% of those vaccinated will die (within a year)?
So the vaccinations will work as a spreading device not as an immune system shut down tool?
again, the 'vaccine' is the 'virus'... peeps will shed while their immune system bites the dust.
over time, I believe 1/3 will die.
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So - on the one hand, the virus is so weak that we should ignore it
While on the other, the vaccines (which are the virus) are super-deadly and will kill - what? Tens of millions or something?
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What do you think the percentages will be? 50% of those vaccinated will die (within a year)?
So the vaccinations will work as a spreading device not as an immune system shut down tool?
I think he's right. The first smallpox vaccine was given around 1800.
Not one of those people stupid enough to take it is alive today!
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Because the medical literature put out by the NIH discussed how this vaccine could likely cause Cytokine storms and numerous other adverse effects. So, it's not like I am just randomly attributing death to the vaccine. Instead, I am making my own educated guess in stating that there are many unfortunate individuals who have succumbed to said adverse effects. Of course, the CDC will not attribute any death to the vaccine, as it's a huge proponent to mass vaccination. The CDC has clearly stated that people do die from vaccines in general (albeit a small number). The fact that, as per their aforementioned statement, "there is no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths"is not just ballsy to assume, but also questions the intelligence of the average person.
These vaccine companies put out a poorly and rapidly tested vaccine, with no data that details possible long-term effects and then the FDA didn't approve the vaccine for the prevention of COVID, but instead approved the emergency use of this product. Couple that with the fact that vaccine companies can not get sued for any adverse effects or even death from these vaccines and it all just starts to smell like shit to me.
Like I said in my original post, death can occur due to any reason and maybe some of those people that received the vaccine died due to unrelated causes, but I do believe that many might have died due to adverse effects from receiving the vaccine.
You have to pick what you will believe in this instance. This is my educated base. The CDC will never grant you access to patient charts and/or provide you with the data that can be refuted.
If you decide to blindly trust the "science" without seeing the evidence, I don't know what to tell you (and by you, I mean anyone).
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Are you aware that the COVID-19 virus itself can trigger cytokine storms?
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200417/cytokine-storms-may-be-fueling-some-covid-deaths#:~:text=Scientists%20believe%20these%20cytokines%20are,autoimmune%20diseases%20like%20juvenile%20arthritis.
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Are you aware that the COVID-19 virus itself can trigger cytokine storms?
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200417/cytokine-storms-may-be-fueling-some-covid-deaths#:~:text=Scientists%20believe%20these%20cytokines%20are,autoimmune%20diseases%20like%20juvenile%20arthritis.
Yes.
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So - on the one hand, the virus is so weak that we should ignore it
While on the other, the vaccines (which are the virus) are super-deadly and will kill - what? Tens of millions or something?
Not all COVID vaccines are created equal, it seems. Because of this, it even more difficult for us laymen to understand how and why these vaccines work. If you are interest in reading about some of the different methods used to create COVID vaccines, read this article. https://theconversation.com/how-are-covid-19-vaccines-made-an-expert-explains-155430 (https://theconversation.com/how-are-covid-19-vaccines-made-an-expert-explains-155430) It is easy to see why there is a lot of misunderstandings regarding these vaccines. It's no wonder some people believe they are not safe. Most of us aren't scientists or more specifically virologists.
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covid is the least serious virus PrimeBugger has submitted himself to
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Not all COVID vaccines are created equal, it seems. Because of this, it even more difficult for us laymen to understand how and why these vaccines work. If you are interest in reading about some of the different methods used to create COVID vaccines, read this article. https://theconversation.com/how-are-covid-19-vaccines-made-an-expert-explains-155430 (https://theconversation.com/how-are-covid-19-vaccines-made-an-expert-explains-155430) It is easy to see why there is a lot of misunderstandings regarding these vaccines. It's no wonder some people believe they are not safe. Most of us aren't scientists or more specifically virologists.
It's a wonder some people question very little.
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It's a wonder some people question very little.
Good old Prime. Trust the information. Its above our head.
Most people arent experts on Christianity but they have an opinion on the belief system and God.
Most people arent automobile, home, appliances, furniture, ect.. manufacturers but we they have opinions on quality products.
Most people arent experts on global warming or the environment or the economy or anything......
It's funny to say trust the science, as the information contiues to evolve the science changes, because the scientists know more than the layman but when that same concept is applied to voting (only registered voters with identification can vote)because people who have a better understanding of the process, political scientists, think it is a reasonable option we need to exercise our opinion.
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As of today there is no 6 month life span of the vaccine. What we know is that the vaccine provides AT LEAST 6 months of protection. As time goes on, they should be able to give a more specific time frame. They are just too new into this that the data is incomplete.
Link to these studies? An older friend of mine went to get it and after talking with his Dr decided against it, seems the Dr couldn't tell him how long it lasts.
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So - on the one hand, the virus is so weak that we should ignore it
While on the other, the vaccines (which are the virus) are super-deadly and will kill - what? Tens of millions or something?
Yes this is correct.
Taffin by getting vaccinated you’ve signed off on your own death sentence. If you’re lucky you may make it to 90.
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a sensible rabbi?
The following list was created by the Israeli rabbi Chananya Weissman.
31 Reasons Why I Won’t Take the Vaccine
1. It’s not a vaccine. A vaccine by definition provides immunity to a disease. This does not provide immunity to anything. In a best-case scenario, it merely reduces the chance of getting a severe case of a virus if one catches it. Hence, it is a medical treatment, not a vaccine. I do not want to take a medical treatment for an illness I do not have.
2. The drug companies, politicians, medical establishment, and media have joined forces to universally refer to this as a vaccine when it is not one, with the intention of manipulating people into feeling safer about undergoing a medical treatment. Because they are being deceitful, I do not trust them, and want nothing to do with their medical treatment.
3. The presumed benefits of this medical treatment are minimal and would not last long in any case. The establishment acknowledges this, and is already talking about additional shots and ever-increasing numbers of new “vaccines” that would be required on a regular basis. I refuse to turn myself into a chronic patient who receives injections of new pharmaceutical products on a regular basis simply to reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus that these injections do not even prevent.
4. I can reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus by strengthening my immune system naturally. In the event I catch a virus, there are vitamins and well-established drugs that have had wonderful results in warding off the illness, without the risks and unknowns of this medical treatment.
5. The establishment insists that this medical treatment is safe. They cannot possibly know this because the long-term effects are entirely unknown, and will not be known for many years. They may speculate that it is safe, but it is disingenuous for them to make such a claim that cannot possibly be known. Because they are being disingenuous, I do not trust them, and I want no part of their treatment.
6. The drug companies have zero liability if anything goes wrong, and cannot be sued. Same for the politicians who are pushing this treatment. I will not inject myself with a new, experimental medical device when the people behind it accept no liability or responsibility if something goes wrong. I will not risk my health and my life when they refuse to risk anything.
7. Israel’s Prime Minister has openly admitted that the Israeli people are the world’s laboratory for this experimental treatment. I am not interested in being a guinea pig or donating my body to science.
8. Israel agreed to share medical data of its citizens with a foreign drug company as a fundamental part of their agreement to receive this treatment. I never consented for my personal medical data to be shared with any such entity, nor was I even asked. I will not contribute to this sleazy enterprise.
9. The executives and board members at Pfizer are on record that they have not taken their own treatment, despite all the fanfare and assurances. They are claiming that they would consider it unfair to “cut the line”. This is a preposterous excuse, and it takes an unbelievable amount of chutzpah to even say such a thing. Such a “line” is a figment of their own imagination; if they hogged a couple of injections for themselves no one would cry foul. In addition, billionaires with private jets and private islands are not known for waiting in line until hundreds of millions of peasants all over the world go first to receive anything these billionaires want for themselves.
10. The establishment media have accepted this preposterous excuse without question or concern. Moreover, they laud Pfizer’s executives for their supposed self-sacrifice in not taking their own experimental treatment until we go first. Since they consider us such fools, I do not trust them, and do not want their new treatment. They can have my place in line. I’ll go to the very back of the line.
11. Three facts that must be put together:
Bill Gates is touting these vaccines as essential to the survival of the human race.
Bill Gates believes the world has too many people and needs to be “depopulated”.
Bill Gates, perhaps the richest man in the world, has also not been injected. No rush.
Uh, no. I’ll pass on any medical treatments he wants me to take.
12. The establishment has been entirely one-sided in celebrating this treatment. The politicians and media are urging people to take it as both a moral and civic duty. The benefits of the treatment are being greatly exaggerated, the risks are being ignored, and the unknowns are being brushed aside. Because they are being deceitful and manipulative, I will not gamble my personal wellbeing on their integrity.
13. There is an intense propaganda campaign for people to take this treatment. Politicians and celebrities are taking selfies of themselves getting injected (perhaps in some cases pretending to get injected), the media is hyping this as the coolest, smartest, most happy and fun thing to do. It is the most widespread marketing campaign in history. This is not at all appropriate for any medical treatment, let alone a brand new one, and it makes me recoil.
14. The masses are following in tow, posting pictures of themselves getting injected with a drug, feeding the mass peer pressure to do the same. There is something very alarming and sick about this, and I want no part of it. I never took drugs just because “everyone’s doing it” and it’s cool. I’m certainly not going to start now.
15. Those who raise concerns about this medical treatment are being bullied, slandered, mocked, censored, ostracized, threatened, and fired from their jobs. This includes medical professionals who have science-based concerns about the drug and caregivers who have witnessed people under their charge suffering horrible reactions and death shortly after being injected. When the establishment is purging good people who risk everything simply to raise concerns about a new medical treatment — even if they don’t outright oppose it — I will trust these brave people over the establishment every time. I cannot think of a single similar case in history when truth and morality turned out to be on the side of the establishment.
16. This is the greatest medical experiment in the history of the human race.
17. It is purposely not being portrayed as the greatest medical experiment in the history of the human race, and the fact that it is a medical experiment at all is being severely downplayed.
18. Were they up front with the masses, very few would agree to participate in such an experiment. Manipulating the masses to participate in a medical experiment under false pretenses violates the foundations of medical ethics and democratic law. I will not allow unethical people who engage in such conduct to inject me with anything.
19. The medical establishment is not informing people about any of this. They have become marketing agents for an experimental drug, serving huge companies and politicians who have made deals with them. This is a direct conflict with their mandate to concern themselves exclusively with the wellbeing of the people under their care. Since the medical establishment has become corrupted, and has become nothing more than a corporate and political tool, I do not trust the experimental drug they want so badly to inject me with.
20. We are being pressured in various ways to get injected, which violates medical ethics and the foundations of democratic society. The best way to get me not to do something is to pressure me to do it.
21. The government has sealed their protocol related to the virus and treatments for THIRTY YEARS. This is information that the public has a right to know, and the government has a responsibility to share. What are they covering up? Do they really expect me to believe that everything is kosher about all this, and that they are concerned first and foremost with my health? The last time they did this was with the Yemenite Children Affair. If you’re not familiar with it, look it up. Now they’re pulling the same shtick. They didn’t fool me the first time, and they’re definitely not fooling me now.
22. The government can share our personal medical data with foreign corporations, but they won’t share their own protocol on the matter with us? I’m out.
23. The establishment has recruited doctors, rabbis, the media, and the masses to harangue people who don’t want to get injected with a new drug. We are being called the worst sort of names. We are being told that we believe in crazy conspiracies, that we are against science, that we are selfish, that we are murderers, that we don’t care about the elderly, that it’s our fault that the government continues to impose draconian restrictions on the public. It’s all because we don’t want to get injected with an experimental treatment, no questions asked. We are even being told that we have a religious obligation to do this, and that we are grave sinners if we do not. They say that if we do not agree to get injected, we should be forced to stay inside our homes forever and be ostracized from public life.
This is horrific, disgusting, a perversion of common sense, morality, and the Torah. It makes me recoil, and only further cements my distrust of these people and my opposition to taking their experimental drug. How dare they?
24. I know of many people who got injected, but none of them studied the science in depth, carefully weighed the potential benefits against the risks, compared this option to other alternatives, was truly informed, and decided this medical treatment was the best option for them. On the contrary, they got injected because of the hype, the propaganda, the pressure, the fear, blind trust in what “the majority of experts” supposedly believed (assuming THEY all studied everything in depth and were completely objective, which is highly dubious), blind trust in what certain influential rabbis urged them to do (ditto the above), or hysterical fear that the only option was getting injected or getting seriously ill from the virus. When I see mass hysteria and cult-like behavior surrounding a medical treatment, I will be extremely suspicious and avoid it.
25. The drug companies have a long and glorious history of causing mass carnage with wonder drugs they thrust on unsuspecting populations, even after serious problems had already become known. Instead of pressing the pause button and halting the marketing of these drugs until these issues could be properly investigated, the drug companies did everything in their power to suppress the information and keep pushing their products. When companies and people have demonstrated such gross lack of concern for human life, I will not trust them when they hype a new wonder drug. This isn’t our first rodeo.
26. Indeed, the horror stories are already coming in at warp speed, but the politicians are not the least bit concerned, the medical establishment is brushing them aside as unrelated or negligible, the media is ignoring it, the drug companies are steaming ahead at full speed, and those who raise a red flag continue to be bullied, censored, and punished. Clearly my life and my wellbeing are not their primary concern. I will not be their next guinea pig in their laboratory. I will not risk being the next “coincidence”.
27. Although many people have died shortly after getting injected — including perfectly healthy young people — we are not allowed to imply that the injection had anything to do with it. Somehow this is anti-science and will cause more people to die. I believe that denying any possible link, abusing people who speculate that there might be a link, and demonstrating not the slightest curiosity to even explore if there might be a link is what is anti-science and could very well cause more people to die. These same people believe I am obligated to get injected as well. No freaking thanks.
28. I am repulsed by the religious, cult-like worship of a pharmaceutical product, and will not participate in this ritual.
29. My “healthcare” provider keeps badgering me to get injected, yet they have provided me no information on this treatment or any possible alternatives. Everything I know I learned from others outside the establishment. Informed consent has become conformed consent. I decline.
30. I see all the lies, corruption, propaganda, manipulation, censorship, bullying, violation of medical ethics, lack of integrity in the scientific process, suppression of inconvenient adverse reactions, dismissal of legitimate concerns, hysteria, cult-like behavior, ignorance, closed-mindedness, fear, medical and political tyranny, concealment of protocols, lack of true concern for human life, lack of respect for basic human rights and freedoms, perversion of the Torah and common sense, demonization of good people, the greatest medical experiment of all time being conducted by greedy, untrustworthy, godless people, the lack of liability for those who demand I risk everything… I see all this and I have decided they can all have my place in line. I will put my trust in God. I will use the mind He blessed me with and trust my natural instincts. Which leads to the final reason which sums up why I will not get “vaccinated.”
31. The whole thing stinks.
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Link to these studies? An older friend of mine went to get it and after talking with his Dr decided against it, seems the Dr couldn't tell him how long it lasts.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-long-does-immunity-from-covid-19-vaccination-last
That's pretty much what I was saying. We know due to the test group that started 6 months ago that the protection lasts at least 6 months. Next month it will likely be 7 months and so on. Until we start reaching that threshold where the antibodies start diminishing and the researchers get a clear picture we don't know how long it lasts. But speaking strictly for me. 6 months minimum is long enough for me to spend a couple hours of my time to get.
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https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-long-does-immunity-from-covid-19-vaccination-last
'the transmission of the virus after vaccination is likely very low'
'Researchers found that the vaccine was 100 percent effective against severe disease'
lol
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https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-long-does-immunity-from-covid-19-vaccination-last
That's pretty much what I was saying. We know due to the test group that started 6 months ago that the protection lasts at least 6 months. Next month it will likely be 7 months and so on. Until we start reaching that threshold where the antibodies start diminishing and the researchers get a clear picture we don't know how long it lasts. But speaking strictly for me. 6 months minimum is long enough for me to spend a couple hours of my time to get.
If my MD explained that to me, my first question would be "What else don't you know about it?"
For the record, I'm not in the mark-of-the-beast, Bill Gates' castrating microchip camp. I sure won't take kindly to having my liberty canceled if I opt to wait for a few more years of data tho.
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When the vaccinated start getting sick and dropping they will 100% blame the unvaccinated and of course the vaccine will become mandatory at this time.
The government is proud of you Mericans, you followed their orders like good obedient students and they have kept the majority of people Fat,Stupid,Lazy, and addicted to Pharmaceuticals.
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When the vaccinated start getting sick and dropping they will 100% blame the unvaccinated and of course the vaccine will become mandatory at this time.
The government is proud of you Mericans, you followed their orders like good obedient students and they have kept the majority of people Fat,Stupid,Lazy, and addicted to Pharmaceuticals.
They are already blaming the B117 variant spread on kids.
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lol at how afraid some of you are in getting the vaccine but goddammit you'll fill up a syringe daily of gear you bought online or from the Bro at the gym with china based powders and inject into your ass without hesitation.
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https://www.bitchute.com/video/PUxflU1g8HhP/?fbclid=IwAR23g5oA2yIA73-iDuZpBR7p1ztFdQ1SxygFDs69PmBgxiQp3gwyJgQSsHc
how the vaccines will kill millions
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https://www.bitchute.com/video/PUxflU1g8HhP/?fbclid=IwAR23g5oA2yIA73-iDuZpBR7p1ztFdQ1SxygFDs69PmBgxiQp3gwyJgQSsHc
how the vaccines will kill millions
Crazy shit bro
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There is 100% an Agenda. They are desperate to give everyone the Jab.
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They are already blaming the B117 variant spread on kids.
I heard it this morning from some establishment Jon Hopkins POS. Good rule of thumb is if it is on Bloomberg news it’s propaganda.
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again, the 'vaccine' is the 'virus'... peeps will shed while their immune system bites the dust.
over time, I believe 1/3 will die.
Send me your manifesto, brah.
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Wife had her second vaccine yesterday. She was fine after the first and very sick all day yesterday after her second. I may get it when I’m old, as for now no thanks.
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This is the proper way to behave.
Get a vaccine.
Get a "V" tattoo to brand yourself in solidarity with big government, big pharma, and big media.
Let people know that they are "ignorant bigots" if they're not in lock-step with big gov, pharma, and media.(anti-corpocracy means racist tendencies)
Let people know that you'll not only take the vaccine and passport, you'll take it with pride.("pride" signals solidarity with L,G,B,T....)
Saying that "V" is also for "victory" evokes evokes WW2's "V for Victory" propaganda campaign. You're hunting Nazis, vaccine hero.
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LOL, he’s the exact opposite of what he thinks he is.
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People are so insanely stupid and naive.
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Font is kinda supremacist, yo.
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From the Boston Marathon Page:
Participants in the in-person race may be expected to produce up to two negative COVID-19 tests prior to Monday, October 11, regardless of vaccination status. Official entrants will receive more information in the coming months on testing timelines and requirements.
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a sensible rabbi?
The following list was created by the Israeli rabbi Chananya Weissman.
31 Reasons Why I Won’t Take the Vaccine
All excellent points!
"1"
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All excellent points!
"1"
Really?
Every single point is excellent?
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Really?
Every single point is excellent?
He could’ve just gone with this one and called it a day:
31. The whole thing stinks.
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Really?
Every single point is excellent?
Not perfect, but excellent in my opinion. His weakest point was #31. To just say, "the whole thing stinks" is not good enough. But like most rabbis, they like to end their spiel with some humor or verbal exclamation point.
"1"
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covid is the least serious virus PrimeBugger has submitted himself to
And yet, here I am virus free. I must be blessed.
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And yet, here I am virus free. I must be blessed.
Trust me, you are cursed.
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Trust me, you are cursed.
lol this is pure gold coming from you!
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Trust me, you are cursed.
Trust me when I say I don't trust you or your opinions.
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Trust me when I say don't trust you or your opinions.
Good talk, old man.
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What's number #32?
Asking for a friend.
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What's number #32?
Asking for a friend.
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Trust me when I say I don't trust you or your opinions.
You’ve messed with another man’s penis.
No matter what you’ve done or do, this will always define you as a mega-loser and a failure as a man.
HTH
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EU drug regulator finds link between AstraZeneca vaccine and blood clots | Article [AMP] | Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-eu-astrazeneca-idUSKBN2BU242
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https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-long-does-immunity-from-covid-19-vaccination-last
That's pretty much what I was saying. We know due to the test group that started 6 months ago that the protection lasts at least 6 months. Next month it will likely be 7 months and so on. Until we start reaching that threshold where the antibodies start diminishing and the researchers get a clear picture we don't know how long it lasts. But speaking strictly for me. 6 months minimum is long enough for me to spend a couple hours of my time to get.
But it won't stop you from getting covid, you are still supposed to mask up and social distance. So what's the point?
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Font is kinda supremacist, yo.
Is this a reference to Tom Hanks' son? I forgot if I read about it here or elsewhere.
Internet observers were quick to opine that, while not quite a Camp Auschwitz hoodie, the text on the clothing, in Gothic font, appeared to be a bit… well, Nazi-ish if not just flat-out racist. The Guardian noted that it resembled Fraktur, a style of script used on Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” and early Nazi letterhead. But what if a font is just a font?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forward.com/culture/466959/white-boy-summer-chet-hanks-nazi-racist-white-supremacist-shirt-font/%3fgamp
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Lol, I hadn't heard about that.
Damn. Thought I was first with Racist Font.
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But it won't stop you from getting covid, you are still supposed to mask up and social distance. So what's the point?
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It's easy to see why so many don't understand the logic behind this but none of us head a multi-billion dollar airline group, much less are in charge of the FAA, peasants.
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In New York City, indoor dining is open at 50% capacity. So, you see people sitting indoors together without masks. Yet, at the same time you see people jogging alone outdoors wearing masks.
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In New York City, indoor dining is open at 50% capacity. So, you see people sitting indoors together without masks. Yet, at the same time you see people jogging alone outdoors wearing masks.
It's such a cluster fuck. You have to wear a mask when entering the restaurant and walk up to the host with your entire party wearing masks, but once you and your party gets seated, all masks can come off. This is further amplified by the view of an entire restaurant filled with people wearing no masks. But god forbid you enter the restaurant without wearing a mask, they will refuse service and tell you to leave.
I mean, the level of sheer retardation is at an all time high folks.
"1"
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When Europe suspended the use of Astra Zeneca, Australia insisted the AZ shot was totally safe and there was no evidence of clotting problems.
Then they said there was evidence but it's too small an issue to justify not using it since it will do so much more good than harm. This has been their position for weeks.
Today: "Um, if you're under 50 you shouldn't take the Astra Zeneca shot. Take the Pfizer one instead."
Thank God there are experts we can rely on.
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I believe the Admin backing off on Vaccine Passports is a harbinger of things to come. This Anti-Vaxxer shit is getting real old in the face of legitimate concerns.
Dick's Sporting Goods Park vaccine site shut down after patients experience adverse reactions to vaccine | KDVR FOX31
https://kdvr.com/news/dicks-sporting-goods-park-vaccine-site-shut-down-after-patients-experience-adverse-reactions-to-vaccine/
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It's such a cluster fuck. You have to wear a mask when entering the restaurant and walk up to the host with your entire party wearing masks, but once you and your party gets seated, all masks can come off. This is further amplified by the view of an entire restaurant filled with people wearing no masks. But god forbid you enter the restaurant without wearing a mask, they will refuse service and tell you to leave.
I mean, the level of sheer retardation is at an all time high folks.
"1"
The whole thing is a fucking joke. sadly on us
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How many with blood clot issues are obese? I bet it's nearly all of them.
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How many with blood clot issues are obese? I bet it's nearly all of them.
It’s another example of the bullshit. Considering the high percentage of obese people who have supposedly succumbed to this, there should be calls every day by public officials for people to try and lose weight. I haven’t heard any.
Lots of calls to wash your hands and wear masks.
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How many with blood clot issues are obese? I bet it's nearly all of them.
what about heavy bodybuilders? not just bulking guys but heavy muscled guys are they the same as fat people? or do you think there is less chance of clotting because muscles pump blood ?
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It's easy to see why so many don't understand the logic behind this but none of us head a multi-billion dollar airline group, much less are in charge of the FAA, peasants.
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I've been flying cross country non stop since before and during the pandemic. There were times last year where I was the only person or 1 of 2 or 3 people on a place flying direct cross country. Over the last few months it started to get busier and busier and my last 3 flights were packed, like fully packed, no empty middle seats, nothing. They don't give a fuck.
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I've been flying cross country non stop since before and during the pandemic. There were times last year where I was the only person or 1 of 2 or 3 people on a place flying direct cross country. Over the last few months it started to get busier and busier and my last 3 flights were packed, like fully packed, no empty middle seats, nothing. They don't give a fuck.
This.
My most recent flight we were told to maintain 6 feet of distance in line to board the plane. Once on I was literally shoulder to shoulder with the person next to me.....
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But it won't stop you from getting covid, you are still supposed to mask up and social distance. So what's the point?
It is overkill. Wearing masks could become permanent, much as they've been in parts of Asia as a preventative in general from whatever viruses there are now and in the future.
I think I've been pretty clear about the fact that I mask up only where it is required. Also I wish to be free to travel and if that means getting a COVID vaccine passport, so be it.
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what about heavy bodybuilders? not just bulking guys but heavy muscled guys are they the same as fat people? or do you think there is less chance of clotting because muscles pump blood ?
I am not sure sorry.
You don't see a lot of 250-lb octogenarians walking around regardless of if they are fat or muscular.
It’s another example of the bullshit. Considering the high percentage of obese people who have supposedly succumbed to this, there should be calls every day by public officials for people to try and lose weight. I haven’t heard any.
Lots of calls to wash your hands and wear masks.
x2 spot on TL
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I've been flying cross country non stop since before and during the pandemic. There were times last year where I was the only person or 1 of 2 or 3 people on a place flying direct cross country. Over the last few months it started to get busier and busier and my last 3 flights were packed, like fully packed, no empty middle seats, nothing. They don't give a fuck.
I notice the in the photo you posted the folks who are packed like sardines on the plane are all wearing masks. Since you fly a lot, answer me this, are masks required to board and during flight? Our health should be our responsibility and not that of the airlines or other businesses. Has anyone who got COVID after flying tried to sue the airlines?
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I believe the Admin backing off on Vaccine Passports is a harbinger of things to come. This Anti-Vaxxer shit is getting real old in the face of legitimate concerns.
Dick's Sporting Goods Park vaccine site shut down after patients experience adverse reactions to vaccine | KDVR FOX31
https://kdvr.com/news/dicks-sporting-goods-park-vaccine-site-shut-down-after-patients-experience-adverse-reactions-to-vaccine/
I love the way our countries do things so differently:
I went to a small, ivy-covered hospital and was offered tea and biscuits after my shot by an old lady
These guys - set up a massive multi-lane drive thru in a car park! ;D
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I love the way our countries do things so differently:
I went to a small, ivy-covered hospital and was offered tea and biscuits after my shot by an old lady
These guys - set up a massive multi-lane drive thru in a car park! ;D
Not necessarily. I got mine at the pharmacy. Each shot took all of about 15 minutes and that is because they want to make sure you don't have a bad reaction. I will say though that I was not offered tea and biscuits afterwards....so there's that.
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It’s another example of the bullshit. Considering the high percentage of obese people who have supposedly succumbed to this, there should be calls every day by public officials for people to try and lose weight. I haven’t heard any.
Lots of calls to wash your hands and wear masks.
THIS!
Not only that, but people talking about 'COVID-spread' weight gain as if it's a side-effect or something. Well I suppose in a way it is - a side effect of gorging... >:(
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https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/975909/S1182_SPI-M-O_Summary_of_modelling_of_easing_roadmap_step_2_restrictions.pdf
Latest UK modelling
32. The resurgence in both hospitalisations and deaths is dominated by those that have received two doses of the vaccine, comprising around 60% and 70% of the wave respectively. This can be attributed to the high levels of uptake in the most at-risk age groups, such that immunisation failures account for more serious illness than unvaccinated individuals. This is discussed further in paragraphs 55 and 56.
So having the vaccine still wont stop old people dying
Theres a surprise.
Begs the question
If the vaccine works then why would be expecting a third wave?
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I'm about to throw up. One of my favorite top-rank ring girls let them give her that shit in a syringe. Young, healthy Eumelanin women and their descendants should not be injected with this stuff. Generation Sterile!
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I wonder if George Zimmerman is going to get one of those stickers?
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https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/975909/S1182_SPI-M-O_Summary_of_modelling_of_easing_roadmap_step_2_restrictions.pdf
Latest UK modelling
32. The resurgence in both hospitalisations and deaths is dominated by those that have received two doses of the vaccine, comprising around 60% and 70% of the wave respectively. This can be attributed to the high levels of uptake in the most at-risk age groups, such that immunisation failures account for more serious illness than unvaccinated individuals. This is discussed further in paragraphs 55 and 56.
So having the vaccine still wont stop old people dying
Theres a surprise.
Begs the question
If the vaccine works then why would be expecting a third wave?
I don't know how I feel about this. I haven't been able to physically meet my dear mom for a long time. She trusts authorities always. And I may not want to do it anyway since if I did give her Covid and she passed away it would crush me. Her man got the jab the other week but she is younger and they haven't opened up vaccination in her age group yet. But she is eager to get it so we can meet. I just hope she doesn't have a bad reaction to it.
Joswift, are your parents alive? Will you take the vaccine?
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I don't know how I feel about this. I haven't been able to physically meet my dear mom for a long time. She trusts authorities always. And I may not want to do it anyway since if I did give her Covid and she passed away it would crush me. Her man got the jab the other week but she is younger and they haven't opened up vaccination in her age group yet. But she is eager to get it so we can meet. I just hope she doesn't have a bad reaction to it.
Joswift, are your parents alive? Will you take the vaccine?
My mums 82 shes had her first and having her second in a week or so
My wife has had her first
I wouldnt have one if you held me down and tried to force me.
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My mums 82 shes had her first and having her second in a week or so
My wife has had her first
I wouldnt have one if you held me down and tried to force me.
Okay. Are you getting pushback and shaming from the missus and relatives? :D
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Okay. Are you getting pushback and shaming from the missus and relatives? :D
No, Im not very approachable..
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My mums 82 shes had her first and having her second in a week or so
My wife has had her first
I wouldnt have one if you held me down and tried to force me.
It’s sexually transmitted for up to 30 days, so there’s that.
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It’s sexually transmitted for up to 30 days, so there’s that.
Shes my mum and shes 82, so I think Im OK there...
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In New York City, indoor dining is open at 50% capacity. So, you see people sitting indoors together without masks. Yet, at the same time you see people jogging alone outdoors wearing masks.
It's like that here in NM.
People walking their dogs with nobody within 100 yards, and they wear a mask. ;D
I live in a very liberal City and it's been crazy how upset people get about it.
We went to a bar last weekend for the first time in months. Half the people kept their mask on the entire time. Some Karen made a comment to my GF about not wear a mask in the bathroom. ::)
She actually followed my GF back to our table and tried to cause a scene. My GF told her if she doesn't fuck off she's going to get shanked. ;D
I love my little Mexican fire kitty.
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Here's the solution for staying safe while eating in restaurants.
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It's like that here in NM.
People walking their dogs with nobody within 100 yards, and they wear a mask. ;D
I live in a very liberal City and it's been crazy how upset people get about it.
We went to a bar last weekend for the first time in months. Half the people kept their mask on the entire time. Some Karen made a comment to my GF about not wear a mask in the bathroom. ::)
She actually followed my GF back to our table and tried to cause a scene. My GF told her if she doesn't fuck off she's going to get shanked. ;D
I love my little Mexican fire kitty.
Makes you wonder who has it worse, the idiot Karens who go through life as chickenshits or those of us who have to put up with them. No shortage of them in my neck of the woods.
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So having the vaccine still wont stop old people dying
Theres a surprise.
Begs the question
If the vaccine works then why would be expecting a third wave?
The paper you linked actually covers addresses that. ???
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https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/975909/S1182_SPI-M-O_Summary_of_modelling_of_easing_roadmap_step_2_restrictions.pdf
Latest UK modelling
32. The resurgence in both hospitalisations and deaths is dominated by those that have received two doses of the vaccine, comprising around 60% and 70% of the wave respectively. This can be attributed to the high levels of uptake in the most at-risk age groups, such that immunisation failures account for more serious illness than unvaccinated individuals. This is discussed further in paragraphs 55 and 56.
So having the vaccine still wont stop old people dying
Theres a surprise.
Begs the question
If the vaccine works then why would be expecting a third wave?
The vaccines are 90% effective. If everyone over 50 in the UK is vaccinated (22 million) then 10% (2.2 million) can still catch and die from covid.
However the situation shouldn't be any different to flu during flu season. If they try make it out as anything worse then it's a bunch of BS
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THIS!
Not only that, but people talking about 'COVID-spread' weight gain as if it's a side-effect or something. Well I suppose in a way it is - a side effect of gorging... >:(
Believe it or not there were calls to discuss paying people to lose weight.
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Also I wish to be free to travel and if that means getting a COVID vaccine passport, so be it.
Well you're on the tail end of whatever is left of your life, some of us don't want to deal with this for the next 40 years.
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The vaccines are 90% effective. If everyone over 50 in the UK is vaccinated (22 million) then 10% (2.2 million) can still catch and die from covid.
However the situation shouldn't be any different to flu during flu season. If they try make it out as anything worse then it's a bunch of BS
What’s .001% of 2.2 million?
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What’s .001% of 2.2 million?
2?
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Well you're on the tail end of whatever is left of your life, some of us don't want to deal with this for the next 40 years.
lol
Prime commented that he only has 26k miles on his car in 5 years (or something like this) but his opinion on air travel is that covid vaccines are needed.... a simpler solution would have been to shut down air travel during the lockdown, stop the spread in its tracks.
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2?
I don’t like those numbers Taffy.
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What’s .001% of 2.2 million?
Death rate for over 50s isn't 0.001% so that calculation is redundant.
If that 2.2 million didn't benefit from a 2 dose vaccination, the chances are they have a compromised immune system. The chances of them dying from covid would easily be a double figure percentage. At the same time the chances of them dying within the next few years from something other than covid would be pretty high anyway.
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So have we figured out how a few thousand Chinese supposedly sick with the flu managed to spread it to the Favalas of Brazil?
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Believe it or not there were calls to discuss paying people to lose weight.
It seems like fining them would be a better strategy as they would have less money for food.
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Death rate for over 50s isn't 0.001% so that calculation is redundant.
If that 2.2 million didn't benefit from a 2 dose vaccination, the chances are they have a compromised immune system. The chances of them dying from covid would easily be a double figure percentage. At the same time the chances of them dying within the next few years from something other than covid would be pretty high anyway.
Good points. Some people don’t stand a chance.
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So have we figured out how a few thousand Chinese supposedly sick with the flu managed to spread it to the Favalas of Brazil?
I've heard some people blame this thing called "internashinel travel". ??? I'm not sure what that is, though. I think it might be an app or a facebook page? ???
Elizabeth, wtf?? Even if you don't buy into a lot of covidmania, there's no confusion about how a communicable disease travels around the world. It would be weirder if it didn't.
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I don’t like those numbers Taffy.
It's ok Dave - my error bar was +/- 100% ;D
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Colleen Huber, NMD, February 21, 2021, updated March 23, 2021
https://www.primarydoctor.org/covidvaccine
Most of the links below are from medical journals, the FDA, CDC, and other entities that generally support vaccination, yet the information in this article shows how EXTREMELY RISKY the COVID-19 vaccines are.
Is the COVID vaccine experimental? Pfizer and Moderna make the COVID-19 vaccines in the US. The FDA granted “emergency use authorization” for these vaccines (herein “COVID injections,” because they are unlike conventional vaccines). Emergency use authorization is required by law to be made only if there are no effective treatments for COVID-19.
But are there effective COVID-19 treatments? 100s of studies done around the world have established, and repeatedly confirmed, fast, effective, well-tolerated treatments for COVID-19 that are in widespread use. I briefly summarize them here.
General risk vs benefit An emergency experimental vaccine cannot be assumed to be safer than a virus with a very high survival rate, such as COVID-19. The average survival rate for NO COVID treatment at all is 99.74%, and we have very successful treatments available, which should easily achieve universal survivability from COVID, if widely available. Where does 99.74% survival come from? Dr. John Ioannidis is the most widely cited scientist in the world. His estimate in June 2020 of a 0.26% infection fatality rate is now confirmed around the world. 100% - 0.26% = 99.74% average survival rate.
Does the COVID injection work? The COVID injection is not even known to stop the spread of COVID. Dr. Larry Corey, who oversees National Institutes of Health COVID-19 vaccine trials said on 11/20/20: “The studies aren’t designed to assess transmission. They don’t ask that question, and there’s really no information on this at this point in time.” https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/941388.
The FDA confirms that the 1st vaccine dose correlates with increased COVID-19 infections. "Suspected COVID-19 cases that occurred within 7 days after any vaccination were 409 in the vaccine group vs 287 in the placebo group." This data comes from Pfizer itself. See p 42 of https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download
What happened to the animals in the studies? This technology has been tried on animals, and in the animal studies done, all the animals died, not immediately from the injection, but months later, from other immune disorders, sepsis and/or cardiac failure.There has never been a long-term successful animal study using this technology. No experimental coronavirus vaccine has succeeded in animal studies. In this study, coronavirus vaccine caused liver inflammation in test animals.
Specific risks of COVID injections, in roughly chronological order of side-effect manifestation:
Polyethylene glycol (PEG) is one of the ingredients. This has been correlated with anaphylactic shock. So the CDC is now recommending intubation kits at vaccination sites.
Cationic lipid coating of mRNA is known for many years to be toxic, because these (+) charged fats interact with the (–) charges on our amino acids, our cell membranes and the phosphates of our DNA. Cationic lipids are attracted to and are destructive toward:
Lungs ,
Mitochondria,
red blood cells,
white blood cells,
Liver,
Immune and nervous systems function (This is the likely cause of the Bell’s Palsy and tremors that are seen in vaccine victims.)
mRNA: Unlike a traditional vaccine, of injected, inactivated virus intended to stimulate antibody response, the COVID injection on the other hand is completely different in this respect. It uses messenger RNA (mRNA), which is a blueprint for your cells to create COVID-like (spike) proteins. Then your cells begin to make these COVID-like proteins. However, those proteins, in turn, stimulate your body to make antibodies against them. So now your body has been turned into a munitions factory for both sides of a war: The bad guys (COVID-like spike proteins) and the good guys (the antibodies fighting against them). However, before you pledge allegiance to the good guys, as you will see below, the good guys can be more lethal to the vaccinated person.
History of mRNA injections: This technology had disastrous results in dengue fever vaccines in the past. Dengue vaccine is a mRNA vaccine. When this was used in children in the Philippines, many vaccinated children had far worse outcomes than unvaccinated children when they were later exposed to dengue, and many died. Prosecution for homicide resulted. However, this had previously been known to happen with ferrets and with cats. In all cases, the vaccinated animal or human became more vulnerable to worse disease when confronted with it. It is expected that the relatively mild COVID-19 illness, with a survival rate of 99.74%, may reduce to a much lower survival rate and become a truly lethal disease in vaccinated people when they later become infected with it. There are no peer-reviewed published human trials of mRNA vaccines at all, and no mRNA vaccine has ever been FDA approved. That’s how new the technology is.
mRNA can affect DNA. One of the most worrisome risks with a mRNA vaccine is what can happen with reverse transcriptase. This is an enzyme in every cell, and it can theoretically lead to the mRNA creating changes in the cells’ DNA, a process known as viral retro-integration. Although this possibility had been thought unlikely, MIT and Harvard scientists found it happened here. If some of the 30 trillion or so cells in your body become permanent COVID factories, what is the long-term impact on your health, and would you want that outcome?
Antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) problem: Prior attempts to create a coronavirus vaccine killed all the test animals, after they were later infected with wild virus. Here’s what happened: mRNA instructed the mammals’ cells to produce the spike proteins of the coronavirus. Then, later, when the animals confronted the wild virus, the intense build-up of antibodies had been stockpiled, and their sudden and overwhelming release killed the test animal. These risks have been documented in Nature, Science and Journal of Infectious Diseases. Here’s a study from Nature on that.
ADE mechanism: ADE is a form of pathogenic priming, meaning the vaccine can result in a more severe disease, which has been seen in prior attempts at making coronavirus vaccines. The antibodies made can be neutralizing (which inactivate a virus, and that’s good), but antibodies are a problem when they are non-neutralizing, because then these antibodies carry active viruses directly to macrophages, which then become infected. This is how ADE happens.
This antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) leads to:
increased viral replication (more viruses to make you sick); and more severe disease
ADE result: These macrophages tend to go to the lungs and fill the lungs, causing overwhelming inflammation and airway obstruction (as found later on autopsy). However, the augmented antibodies also attack similar-looking proteins on internal organs, resulting in cytokine storm and death or auto-immune disease and organ failure. “Cats that showed high titers following vaccination succumbed at later timepoints to fatal disease.”
What about miscarriages, and why have men been advised to freeze their sperm prior to getting the injection? Both men and women are at risk for possibly permanent infertility, because the spike protein of a coronavirus “looks” to the immune system similar to Syncytin-1, an essential protein in the placenta. This stimulates antibodies to fight the placenta, and possibly sperm. Mid-term miscarriages, which are normally very rare, have occurred in women who have been vaccinated for COVID. SARS-CoV-2 viral particles have been found to linger in the testicles of men after recovery from infection.
Why are COVID vaccinees MORE likely to spread COVID than the unvaccinated? Virologist Geert Vanden Bossche PhD, who worked for the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, recently warned the World Health Organization (WHO) that "We are currently turning vaccinees into carriers shedding infectious variants."
Why is it more dangerous to vaccinate against COVID-19 than other viruses? Because COVID-19 virus uses the ACE-2 receptor to get into your endothelial cells, including those lining the blood vessels. This creates an inflammatory reaction that the great majority (99.74%) have survived even without treatment, and even more who used known, effective treatments. (See page 1) So if you have been exposed to the virus, and then get vaccinated, it is almost certain that the vaccine will cause new inflammation and damage to endothelial cells lining your blood vessels, and we have seen short-term abnormal blood clotting in people who have gotten the vaccine. But the more likely problem is launching new disease in the blood vessels. Dr. H Noorchashm MD, PhD says, “. . . the vaccine is almost certain to do damage to the vascular endothelium.” He explains here.
Israel is at this writing the most heavily COVID-vaccinated country in the world. The findings of infectious disease experts are reported here, in which they determined, from the Israeli data, that the COVID injection causes:
" . . .mortality hundreds of times greater in young people compared to mortality from coronavirus without the vaccine, and dozens of times more in the elderly . . .”
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FOH!
North Carolina sites halt J&J shots after adverse reactions
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — North Carolina health officials said on Thursday that they stopped administering Johnson & Johnson doses at a mass vaccination site in Raleigh and at clinics in Hillsborough and Chapel Hill after at least 26 people experienced adverse reactions, including fainting.
Four people were taken to hospitals for further examination, and state and federal health officials are reviewing the matter.
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I've heard some people blame this thing called "internashinel travel". ??? I'm not sure what that is, though. I think it might be an app or a facebook page? ???
Elizabeth, wtf?? Even if you don't buy into a lot of covidmania, there's no confusion about how a communicable disease travels around the world. It would be weirder if it didn't.
Here’s what Fauci was saying before Covid. Did the science change or did someone get in his ear?
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7w10hm
The one thing historically people need to realize that even if there is some asymptomatic transmission in all the history of respiratory-borne viruses any time asymptomatic transmission has never been the driver of outbreaks. The driver of outbreaks is always a symptomatic person. Even if there is a rare asymptomatic person that might transmit an epidemic is not driven by asymptomatic carriers." Dr Fauci
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The paper you linked actually covers addresses that. ???
Yes, it pretty much says that all the people vaccinated are older people who are going to die anyway but it doesnt say they are going to take that into consideration if they want to lock down again if the "R" rate goes above one.
Makes you wonder why they didnt say that first time around when it was just old people dying.
In a nutshell its old people that are going to die regardless of there being a vaccine and young people are not going to be affected.... like last time
So my point is despite vaccines people are still going to die
Like they do every year.
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So have we figured out how a few thousand Chinese supposedly sick with the flu managed to spread it to the Favalas of Brazil?
aeroplanes..
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aeroplanes..
They shut down China last January. How many fucking sick Chinese could’ve gone over there that they managed to kill 300,000 Brazilians?
Funny how every country seems to have more deaths from Covid than China.
How do you know that Covid wasn’t already over there? They just started testing people this year. Did they not have the flu in Brazil before 2020?
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They shut down China last January. How many fucking sick Chinese could’ve gone over there that they managed to kill 300,000 Brazilians?
Funny how every country seems to have more deaths from Covid than China.
How do you know that Covid wasn’t already over there? They just started testing people this year. Did they not have the flu in Brazil before 2020?
they dont have to visit Brazil, they can meet someone who is going to go to another country that a Brazilian visits
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Heard of Ivermectin?
No, heres why...
When used prophylactically – for example, taken by healthcare workers or relatives of confirmed cases – it was shown that ivermectin reduces the risk of transmission by 88 per cent compared to control.
When used to treat Covid-19 infection, ivermectin reduces the risk of death by 83 per cent compared to ‘no ivermectin’. It also reduces the risk of deterioration by about 50 per cent. Almost 4,000 patients were included in the trials used in the meta-analysis. The British Ivermectin Recommendation Development (BIRD) Group has now recommended the immediate roll-out of ivermectin for prevention and treatment of Covid-19.
https://www.pharmacymagazine.co.uk/ivermectin-for-covid-19-a-cheap-drug-with-a-remarkable-effect?fbclid=IwAR3OJ69DsY2mNVCyfAEd12nI20IGflfpA5zcgjbX9W0FcObpPJW4KoP69HA
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they dont have to visit Brazil, they can meet someone who is going to go to another country that a Brazilian visits
Damn, if it’s that easy, it’s a miracle everyone in Texas isn’t already dead. I guess it just makes people uncomfortable to think that their government and the media are lying to them. How else do you explain so much bending over backwards to support what is obviously an extremely shaky and at times absurd narrative?
Texas COVID Cases Drop to Record Low Nearly Three Weeks After Mask Mandate Lifted
https://www.newsweek.com/texas-covid-cases-drop-record-low-nearly-three-weeks-after-mask-mandate-lifted-1579484
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Damn, if it’s that easy, it’s a miracle everyone in Texas isn’t already dead. I guess it just makes people uncomfortable to think that their government and the media are lying to them. How else do you explain so much bending over backwards to support what is obviously an extremely shaky and at times absurd narrative?
Texas COVID Cases Drop to Record Low Nearly Three Weeks After Mask Mandate Lifted
https://www.newsweek.com/texas-covid-cases-drop-record-low-nearly-three-weeks-after-mask-mandate-lifted-1579484
last 7 days UK covid deaths within 28 days of a test
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1600 people on average die in the UK every day..yesterday only 11 of those were Covid "related"
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last 7 days UK covid deaths within 28 days of a test
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1600 people on average die in the UK every day..yesterday only 11 of those were Covid "related"
Without the media’s daily panic porn and the government interventions, do you think anybody would’ve noticed anything wrong in 2020? I spent every day of 2020 in a very densely populated area of New York City and my answer is “no.”
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Another:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/colorado-north-carolina-johnson-and-johnson-vaccine-reactions/
The race to vaccinate hit more roadblocks on Thursday, as several patients at a mass vaccination site in North Carolina suffered immediate reactions to the Johnson & Johnson shot
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It is impressive we have so many people on this board who are not only experts in muscular strength and hypertrophy but also epidemiology.
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(https://i.insider.com/5e72a2d8c485404ab2528275?width=1136&format=jpeg)
These fucboi vaccines are for people 65 (maybe 60) and over. The fact they are even suggesting giving these fucboi vaccines to children is preposterous.
If under and healthy you will have a superlab flu or no taste for 10-14 days.
The mental health and neurological concerns come from wearing masks for 1 yr and being in isolation.
FOH!
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Without the media’s daily panic porn and the government interventions, do you think anybody would’ve noticed anything wrong in 2020? I spent every day of 2020 in a very densely populated area of New York City and my answer is “no.”
they havent mentioned covid deaths for weeks, they only mention it when its bad news
I agree, if we had done nothing I dont think it would have been any worse and most people wouldnt have even noticed there had been a virus
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It is impressive we have so many people on this board who are not only experts in muscular strength and hypertrophy but also epidemiology.
Google is a hell of a thing
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Yes, it pretty much says that all the people vaccinated are older people who are going to die anyway but it doesnt say they are going
Makes you wonder why they didnt say that first time around when it was just old people dying.
The first time around, prior to there being a vaccination push?
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It’s sexually transmitted for up to 30 days, so there’s that.
Are you sure about this?
There is currently no evidence that the COVID-19 virus is transmitted through semen or vaginal fluids, but the virus has been detected in the semen of people who have or are recovering from the virus. Further research is needed to determine if the COVID-19 virus could be transmitted sexually.
But then, there is also this advice:
If you or your partner isn't feeling well or think you might have COVID-19, don't kiss or have sex with each other until you're both feeling better. Also, if you or your partner is at higher risk of serious illness with COVID-19 due to an existing chronic condition, you might want to avoid sex.
There is nothing like confusing messages to help someone decide who to proceed.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/expert-answers/sex-and-coronavirus/faq-20486572#:~:text=There%20is%20currently%20no%20evidence,could%20be%20transmitted%20sexually.
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they havent mentioned covid deaths for weeks, they only mention it when its bad news
I agree, if we had done nothing I dont think it would have been any worse and most people wouldnt have even noticed there had been a virus
New COVID cases, hospitalizations and deaths are listed daily in the Oregonian. Who are the 'they' you are referring to?
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they havent mentioned covid deaths for weeks, they only mention it when its bad news
I agree, if we had done nothing I dont think it would have been any worse and most people wouldnt have even noticed there had been a virus
So you really believe here in the U.S. that doing nothing would have kept our infection and death rates in the exact spot they are today? You aren't stupid but rather a phenomenal troll.
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New COVID cases, hospitalizations and deaths are listed daily in the Oregonian. Who are the 'they' you are referring to?
Mainstream media UK
All news outlets, not a whisper about covid deaths in weeks
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So you really believe here in the U.S. that doing nothing would have kept our infection and death rates in the exact spot they are today? You aren't stupid but rather a phenomenal troll.
Its clear, all the evidence is in, lockdowns make no difference to overall cases, they just spread out the cocvid deaths but they also start storing up deaths from a variety of other causes.
In the UK there are now 4.6 million people on waiting lists for trteatment and appointments.
If no one gets sick again it could still take 5 years to get them all seen and treated.
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Its clear, all the evidence is in, lockdowns make no difference to overall cases, they just spread them out
New Zealand did a hard lock down and in 3 months covid was pretty much non existent there.
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New Zealand did a hard lock down and in 3 months covid was pretty much non existent there.
New Zealand and Australia are not the same thing as Europe and the USA, they are self contained places where there isnt as much inward outward travel.
If they open the borders again then the virus will re-appear, you cant get rid of it, its going to be around forever, they could end up locking down pretty much year round if cases start to reappear.
There are many differing factors as to high death tolls
Obesity is the main contributing factor, thats why Europe and the USA have faired so badly.
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So you really believe here in the U.S. that doing nothing would have kept our infection and death rates in the exact spot they are today? You aren't stupid but rather a phenomenal troll.
Do you really believe the numbers?
More 40% of the deaths have been in nursing homes. No one goes to a nursing home voluntarily. They are put there because they are unable to take care of themselves. Nursing homes have a mortality rate of 33% a year. These are old and sick people with compromised immune systems who came up positive on tests and their deaths were subsequently labeled as Covid.
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Do you really believe the numbers?
More 40% of the deaths have been in nursing homes. No one goes to a nursing home voluntarily. They are put there because they are unable to take care of themselves. Nursing homes have a mortality rate of 33% a year. These are old and sick people with compromised immune systems who came up positive on tests and their deaths were subsequently labeled as Covid.
600k deaths means 240k were in nursing homes. 360k non nursing home deaths in spite of shut downs, restrictions, masks and distancing. You don't think that number would have been markedly higher if everyone went about life as though the virus didn't exist? I don't. I don't know if they'd double, triple or what but burying one loved one was enough for me.
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600k deaths means 240k were in nursing homes. 360k non nursing home deaths in spite of shut downs, restrictions, masks and distancing. You don't think that number would have been markedly higher if everyone went about life as though the virus didn't exist? I don't. I don't know if they'd double, triple or what but burying one loved one was enough for me.
Some countries that havent locked down have fared no worse than countries that have.
Locking down just slows down the rate of transmission, thats great if you have a vaccine that works, it would appear that we dont, they are already talking about further vaccines in September
And burying a loved one isnt unique to covid....
Everyone has lost someone to one thing or another
You think your loss is greater because its a covid related death?
You have even been convinced it is yourself
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600k deaths means 240k were in nursing homes. 360k non nursing home deaths in spite of shut downs, restrictions, masks and distancing. You don't think that number would have been markedly higher if everyone went about life as though the virus didn't exist? I don't. I don't know if they'd double, triple or what but burying one loved one was enough for me.
Most of the non nursing home deaths are people who were already locked down at home because they were too old and sick to go out. I recall Governor Cuomo being “Shocked” when the stats first came out. The average age of Covid victims is ~78 which is the same as the average lifespan of Americans.
In fact, there is an inverse relationship between socializing and Covid deaths. The most social people, the young, were the least affected.
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Some countries that havent locked down have fared no worse than countries that have.
Locking down just slows down the rate of transmission, thats great if you have a vaccine that works, it would appear that we dont, they are already talking about further vaccines in September
I'd say it appears that vaccines do work. May not eliminate the virus but it will almost certainly drop the infection rate, severity of infection and death rate. I want everything opened up asap. Once we are fully vaccinated, I will not be in favor of lock downs. I'll be fine with masks, distancing, reducing capacity and even reduced capacity once vaccinated I'd probably concede. If I have to get a booster shot once or twice a year until these deadly variants are stamped out? So be it.
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I'd say it appears that vaccines do work. May not eliminate the virus but it will almost certainly drop the infection rate, severity of infection and death rate. I want everything opened up asap. Once we are fully vaccinated, I will not be in favor of lock downs. I'll be fine with masks, distancing, reducing capacity and even reduced capacity once vaccinated I'd probably concede. If I have to get a booster shot once or twice a year until these deadly variants are stamped out? So be it.
alledged severity of infection, they have already said wont stop transmissions
Fine with masks and distancing?????
Fucks sake mate if vaccines work it will be no where near seasonal flu..
You are well and truly fucked in the head.
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Some of the science finally coming out about Covid tells you that this is one fucked up virus. It damaged people without them even knowing they were sick. A true biological weapon.
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alledged severity of infection, they have already said wont stop transmissions No "d" in alleged. It will lower viral load which in some cases will prevent tranmissions.
Fine with masks and distancing????? Yes, if I'm in a crowded waiting room at a restaurant, I'll probably wear my mask whether mandated or not until I get to my table if the virus is still prevalent.
Fucks sake mate if vaccines work it will be no where near seasonal flu.. Let's hope so. In the last 40 years, the seasonal flu hasn't killed more than 22 or 25 thousand people in a year.
You are well and truly fucked in the head. I guess. At least I'm not a self aggrandizing leech.
Carry on Simon.
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I'd say it appears that vaccines do work.
A few months and you've come to this conclusion?
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A few months and you've come to this conclusion?
Why not apply the same response to UK Jeff? In the same few months he's come to the conclusion that it doesn't work.
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Why not apply the same response to UK Jeff? In the same few months he's come to the conclusion that it doesn't work.
Because not taking a vaccine won't give you blood clots.
The thing about medication is it is supposed to be proven to work BEFORE doling it out to the general public by the millions.
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Carry on Simon.
Abe are you sure about that no more than 22k flu number? I think it's much higher.
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A true biological weapon.
this is the rona (a single strand of 'designer' covid19 RNA):
(https://greatgameindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Multiple-sequence-alignment-between-spike-proteins-of-2019-nCoV-and-SARS-1024x811.jpg)
those four short (incomplete) sequences of hiv 1 genetic code (black boxes) (verified) inserted within the total RNA genomic sequence of covid19... are a problem.
hiv is a retrovirus... with the ability to enter into the nucleus and change the host cell DNA.
covid is the delivery system by which the hiv snippets gain access into the cell, once inside the cytoplasm (both covid and hiv), the hiv genetic material becomes the way (thru nuclear pore complex) by which the entire genomic sequence of covid is transferred into the nucleus... binding to and permanently changing the host DNA.
thats why hiv was crispred into the rona – gain of function.
its the sequence of covid, assisted into the nucleus by hiv.. that then 'goes viral'.. exporting new DNA.. expressed as a single strand of RNA - from cell to cell – until every last cell in the body is transformed.
making designer rona... in effect a retrovirus – which increases transmissibility (increasing morbidity (not mortality))
also... this 'new DNA'... is in effect artificially procured 'complementary DNA' (cDNA)... which is - patentable.
how did hiv find its way into the rona?
not by accident:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338957445_Uncanny_similarity_of_unique_inserts_in_the_2019-nCoV_spike_protein_to_HIV-1_gp120_and_Gag
We are currently witnessing a major epidemic caused by the 2019 novel coronavirus (2019- nCoV). The evolution of 2019-nCoV remains elusive. We found 4 insertions in the spike glycoprotein (S) which are unique to the 2019-nCoV and are not present in other coronaviruses. Importantly, amino acid residues in all the 4 inserts have identity or similarity to those in the HIV-1 gp120 or HIV-1 Gag. Interestingly, despite the inserts being discontinuous on the primary amino acid sequence, 3D-modelling of the 2019-nCoV suggests that they converge to constitute the receptor binding site. The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity /similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature.
more hiv fragments have been identified within the designer rona... 18 of them now (6 + 6 + 6 = 18 - how perfect, lol)
'18 RNA fragments of homology equal or more than 80% with human or simian retroviruses have been found in the COVID_19 genome.'
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342926066_COVID-19_SARS_and_Bats_Coronaviruses_Genomes_Peculiar_Homologous_RNA_Sequences_Jean_Claude_perez_Luc_Montagnier
^ not citing shlubs, here ^
Australian Covid-19 vaccine trials ended after test subjects return 'false positive' HIV results
"Follow up tests confirmed that there is no HIV virus present, just a false positive on certain HIV tests. There is no possibility the vaccine causes infection," the statement added.
Fucboi vaccines!
this 'vaccine' will introduce modified, synthetic mRNA (based on 'modified' rona retrovirus)
which will do what?
reverse transcribe into single strand cDNA, generating into double strand cDNA, incorporating into (via integrase enzyme) host cell genome - rendering your innate DNA desolate.
'Further, provided are polynucleotides, primary constructs or mmRNA which may contain an internal ribosome entry site (RES). First identified as a feature Picorna virus RNA, IRES plays an important role in initiating protein synthesis in absence of the 5′ cap structure. An IRES may act as the sole ribosome binding site, or may serve as one of multiple ribosome binding sites of an mRNA. Polynucleotides, primary constructs or mmRNA containing more than one functional ribosome binding site may encode several peptides or polypeptides that are translated independently by the ribosomes (“multicistronic nucleic acid molecules”). When polynucleotides, primary constructs or mmRNA are provided with an IRES, further optionally provided is a second translatable region. Examples of IRES sequences that can be used according to the invention include without limitation, those from picornaviruses (e.g. FMDV), pest viruses (CFFV), polio viruses (PV), encephalomyocarditis viruses (ECMV), foot-and-mouth disease viruses (FMDV), hepatitis C viruses (HCV), classical swine fever viruses (CSFV), murine leukemia virus (MLV), simian immune deficiency viruses (SIV) or cricket paralysis viruses (CrPV).'
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20200354423A1/en?oq=US+2020%2f0354423+A1
this 'vaccine' (biotech system) qualifies as the mark of the beast for these reasons:
it marks one fundamentally – functioning as genetic marker, down to marking the genetic code itself - changing the DNA (via nucleic acid vaccine/mRNA replication process, based on lab created frankenstein rona retrovirus), has complete tracking/surveillance capabilities compatible with - facial recognition, remote sensing etc infrastructures along with the ability to monitor the body internally continuously, as well as the person's behavior and mental state - the totality of human function will be transmitted to the blockchain, in real time - permanently
also ties one into a soon to b single system of economic function, without which one will not b able to 'buy and sell'
this tech will be applied to the hand or forehead, soon... convenient for scanning (convenience is key, lol)
these r some of the technologies involved:
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606
NanoLuc® Luciferase as a Genetic Reporter
'A small, bright enzyme like NanoLuc® luciferase is the ideal basis for a sensitive genetic reporter. With an array of NanoLuc® reporter vectors and detection assay formats, you can take your genetic reporter assays to the next level.'
Reporter Viruses
'Because of the small size of the NanoLuc® luciferase reporter gene and the HiBiT tag, they can be inserted into the viral genome without disrupting packaging or enzyme activities, for easy monitoring of viral processes in vivo.'
https://www.promega.com/resources/technologies/nanoluc-luciferase-enzyme/reporter-viruses/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/290431897_Functional_nucleic_acid-based_hydrogels_for_bioanalytical_and_biomedical_applications
https://stm.sciencemag.org/content/11/523/eaay7162.abstract
all who subject themselves to this grand genetic experiment (and dont die) will b altered and owned... some kind of fuked up chimeric gmo.
tards will tard
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Some of the science finally coming out about Covid tells you that this is one fucked up virus. It damaged people without them even knowing they were sick. A true biological weapon.
That's no different to a lot of other viruses that are out there and even ones that you've probably already had.
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So...it is late in day two after my second Moderna COVID vaccine. Didn't feel that great yesterday, just a bit under the weather and I took a long nap mid-day. Slept in late this morning. Felt okay when I finally got out of bed. Peed a little more than usual. Otherwise, today wasn't much different than any other day except that I feel a little more protected from getting deathly ill with COVID. Read in the newspaper that some people became ill and a few may have succumbed to COVID despite being vaccinated against it. Guess there are no sure things. It is like you can wear a condom to avoid a pregnancy and sometimes the condom breaks. Life isn't perfect. You just do what you can and hope for the best. At the moment, I am feeling pretty damn good.
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Right on, Prime. Like I told my old man, wash your hands and be sensible but if you used to like walking into town and getting an ice cream or something then you can do it again.
You got to enjoy life.
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Abe are you sure about that no more than 22k flu number? I think it's much higher.
It was in the 20's. If it wasn't 22, it was 25 or 27 and that was the highest year.
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It was in the 20's. If it wasn't 22, it was 25 or 27 and that was the highest year.
Its 12-16k a year in the UK
in 2017/18 we had 28k die from flu, they blamed a shit vaccine that year.
No one even fucking noticed
In 68/69 80k people died of Hong Kong flu in the UK alone
Amazingly no one has had flu in the USA since January????
"Oh, its because we are wearing masks"
"Then why are there still cases of Covid?"
"Errrr....."
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Its 12-16k a year in the UK
in 2017/18 we had 28k die from flu, they blamed a shit vaccine that year.
No one even fucking noticed
In 68/69 80k people died of Hong Kong flu in the UK alone
Amazingly no one has had flu in the USA since January????
"Oh, its because we are wearing masks"
"Then why are there still cases of Covid?"
"Errrr....."
And why is a state that has some of the most Draconian lockdown measures doing worse than states which have lifted restrictions?
"Errrr....."
Covid cases overwhelm Michigan health system, Gov. Whitmer urges residents to stay home
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/09/covid-michigan-gov-whitmer-urges-residents-to-restrict-activity-as-new-cases-overwhelm-state-health-system.html
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^ not citing shlubs, here ^
tards will tard
Jody - 60 yr old Covid nurse here. Took me until December to get Covid and I had a rough case. I’m so grateful you are talking about the craziness of post Covids getting vaccinated! Thank you, Dr!
LoveLife - Just like this doctor said regarding his own situation. If you've had Covid, you don't need the shot.
Annie - again in the USA the government is trying to boost up the economy and so the doctors don't have to work as hard and have an easy life... this is just the reason why people are out in the street giving out vaccines LOL
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And why is a state that has some of the most Draconian lockdown measures doing worse than states which have lifted restrictions?
"Errrr....."
Covid cases overwhelm Michigan health system, Gov. Whitmer urges residents to stay home
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/09/covid-michigan-gov-whitmer-urges-residents-to-restrict-activity-as-new-cases-overwhelm-state-health-system.html
stay home?
Yep, because thats were most transmissions take place.
Staying home has always been the worst advice unless every single person stays home, and that is impossible if a society is to function, key workers must go out.
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stay home?
Yep, because thats were most transmissions take place.
Staying home has always been the worst advice unless every single person stays home, and that is impossible if a society is to function, key workers must go out.
Speaks volumes about the current state of society that this thread has had more quality information than the whole of mainstream media combined.
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Speaks volumes about the current state of society that this thread has had more quality information than the whole of mainstream media combined.
Another stat is that if a wife or husband gets covid the chances of their partner catching it from them are 38%, thats living and breating the same air and sleeping together...
This has never really been a pandemic, its a few additional coronavirus deaths added to the normal death stats and all counted as covid 19
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They should have been promoting going outside, rather than staying in. Sunlight, vitamin D, activity etc are great weapons against this. Transmission outside is very improbable, and if exposed, it's to a lesser viral load then what you would get indoors.
Government is too scared to tell people to stop being fat, get active, supplement, and increase metabolic health.
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They should have been promoting going outside, rather than staying in. Sunlight, vitamin D, activity etc are great weapons against this. Transmission outside is very improbable, and if exposed, it's to a lesser viral load then what you would get indoors.
Government is too scared to tell people to stop being fat, get active, supplement, and increase metabolic health.
QFT
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2020: Covid vaccine passports are a conspiracy theory.
March 2021: Anyone opposed to covid vaccine passports is a conspiracy theorist.
April 2021: We won't evacuate you from lava spewing volcano island unless you have a vaccine passport.
entire video is only 20 seconds:
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2020: Covid vaccine passports are a conspiracy theory.
March 2021: Anyone opposed to covid vaccine passports is a conspiracy theorist.
April 2021: We won't evacuate you from lava spewing volcano island unless you have a vaccine passport.
entire video is only 20 seconds:
but if they wore a mask surely they would be OK on the boat?
Thats if masks worked of course....
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If you actually read the story she says that she understands peoples concerns but if you don’t get the vaccine you’re killing grandma. What a media whore dyke POS.
Maddow rips 'patronizing, snobby' media belittling those hesitant of vaccine: 'Nothing to be ashamed of' | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-rachel-maddow-covid-vaccine
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If you actually read the story she says that she understands peoples concerns but if you don’t get the vaccine you’re killing grandma. What a media whore dyke POS.
Maddow rips 'patronizing, snobby' media belittling those hesitant of vaccine: 'Nothing to be ashamed of' | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-rachel-maddow-covid-vaccine
Richard Maddow can be summed up as "oogie". And although Mr. Maddow tries to disarm his viewers by saying that his colleagues who deliver the "don't question the vaccine" narrative can be a little patronizing, there's certainly nothing patronizing about Richard claiming to feel empathy for his viewer's "oogieness" because they haven't come around to the MSM-authorized opinion yet.
"...have a lot in common with who feel oogie or a little reluctant to get the vaccine."
"Feeling a little oogie is not necessarily born of you, you know, having some rank ignorance because you've been drafted..."
"I had legitimate fears and oogieness. I felt the fear and I did it anyway," Maddow said. "So listen, if you are like me and you have been feeling oogie or resistant or if you've just been dragging your feet about whether or not you're going to get the vaccine..."
"It is OK to feel reluctant or oogie or scared and not want to get it. That is nothing to be ashamed of. But feel the fear and do it away. Get it," Maddow urged..."
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Obesity is the main contributing factor, thats why Europe and the USA have faired so badly.
I think it is more complicated than that. We Americans are a very fat people for sure but there are plenty of obese blimps in AUS and NZ too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_obesity_rate
USA 36.2%
New Zealand 30.8%
Australia 28.0%
UK 27.8%
Rates in most of continental Europe are quite a bit lower.
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I think it is more complicated than that. We Americans are a very fat people for sure but there are plenty of obese blimps in AUS and NZ too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_obesity_rate
USA 36.2%
New Zealand 30.8%
Australia 28.0%
UK 27.8%
Rates in most of continental Europe are quite a bit lower.
One common thread is that we are all aging populations. So a higher death rate should be expected as, from my understanding, old people are more likely to die than young.
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I think it is more complicated than that. We Americans are a very fat people for sure but there are plenty of obese blimps in AUS and NZ too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_obesity_rate
USA 36.2%
New Zealand 30.8%
Australia 28.0%
UK 27.8%
Rates in most of continental Europe are quite a bit lower.
I agree it's complicated. Mortality rate is more likely multifactorial.
Age, weight, pre-conditions, race, sex, access to healthcare, genetic predisposition, etc. All seem to play a role.
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So...it is late in day two after my second Moderna COVID vaccine. Didn't feel that great yesterday, just a bit under the weather and I took a long nap mid-day. Slept in late this morning. Felt okay when I finally got out of bed. Peed a little more than usual. Otherwise, today wasn't much different than any other day except that I feel a little more protected from getting deathly ill with COVID. Read in the newspaper that some people became ill and a few may have succumbed to COVID despite being vaccinated against it. Guess there are no sure things. It is like you can wear a condom to avoid a pregnancy and sometimes the condom breaks. Life isn't perfect. You just do what you can and hope for the best. At the moment, I am feeling pretty damn good.
From the cdc website Studies show that COVID-19 vaccines are effective at keeping you from getting COVID-19. Getting a COVID-19 vaccine will also help keep you from getting seriously ill even if you do get COVID-19.
Hahaa their hypocrisy is ridiculous.
They should have been promoting going outside, rather than staying in. Sunlight, vitamin D, activity etc are great weapons against this. Transmission outside is very improbable, and if exposed, it's to a lesser viral load then what you would get indoors.
Government is too scared to tell people to stop being fat, get active, supplement, and increase metabolic health.
Exactly, there's a free vaccine that doesn't require fear mongering and stealing our rights away...
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if you don’t get the vaccine you’re killing grandma. What a media whore dyke POS.
What a load of sh!t! Granny gets vaccinated, has an immediate response to an infection. Viroids mutate, trying to adapt Borg Style but since fiber/receptor sites don't change it's a lost cause. Granny kisses you and passes surviving mutated viroids to you. Your non-vaccinated body doesn't recognize the infection and you get a 10-14 day quarantine b/c you are HEALTHY AND FALL IN THE 0% FATALITY GROUPS. Hence, vaccinate everyone over 60 years and with secondary concerns. A vaccinated person poses a greater threat to a non-vaccinated person.
Love how these clowns flip the narratives.
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What a load of sh!t! Granny gets vaccinated, has an immediate response to an infection. Viroids mutate, trying to adapt Borg Style but since fiber/receptor sites don't change it's a lost cause. Granny kisses you and passes surviving mutated viroids to you. Your non-vaccinated body doesn't recognize the infection and you get a 10-14 day quarantine b/c you are HEALTHY AND FALL IN THE 0% FATALITY GROUPS. Hence, vaccinate everyone over 60 years and with secondary concerns. A vaccinated person poses a greater threat to a non-vaccinated person.
Love how these clowns flip the narratives.
Solid post.
She’s trying to make herself sound like a voice of the people while at the same time regurgitating the tired mainstream narrative and shilling for big pharma.
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Jody - 60 yr old Covid nurse here. Took me until December to get Covid and I had a rough case. I’m so grateful you are talking about the craziness of post Covids getting vaccinated! Thank you, Dr!
LoveLife - Just like this doctor said regarding his own situation. If you've had Covid, you don't need the shot.
Annie - again in the USA the government is trying to boost up the economy and so the doctors don't have to work as hard and have an easy life... this is just the reason why people are out in the street giving out vaccines LOL
What I've read suggests that folks who've had COVID-19 should still get vaccinated against it. One reason given is that no one knows how long immunity lasts following the illness....my thought is that this also applies to the vaccine. Some people have gotten sick with COVID after being vaccinated against it. It is hard to know when these things become overkill. A crystal ball would sure come in handy.
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What I've read suggests that folks who've had COVID-19 should still get vaccinated against it. One reason given is that no one knows how long immunity lasts following the illness....my thought is that this also applies to the vaccine. Some people have gotten sick with COVID after being vaccinated against it. It is hard to know when these things become overkill. A crystal ball would sure come in handy.
I recommend you get the vaccine daily, just to be safe.
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stay home?
Yep, because thats were most transmissions take place.
Staying home has always been the worst advice unless every single person stays home, and that is impossible if a society is to function, key workers must go out.
I think the goal is for folks to limit their exposure. The more people you are exposed to the greater the likelihood of catching something, whether it's COVID or just a cold.
One issue I have is that in some situations exposure and even illness can help a person build a resistance to some viruses. The first year I worked at an elementary school, I had a few colds. The next year and the years after that I'd either get one or no colds. If you talk to folks whose work exposes them to more germs then they've been used to, they often have had the same experience. Nursing is another profession where this happens.
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I recommend you get the vaccine daily, just to be safe.
I know you mean well. Hope you won't be offended if I ignore your advice. ;D
Just for the record, today is day three following my second shot and I've felt a bit queasy all day. Not sick, just a bit off. It didn't stop me from going to Home Depot to pick up and replacement shrub for the one the arborist accidentally crushed while hauling out branches from a tree I had to have removed as a result of damage caused by an ice storm a month ago. Home Depot was packed. Social distancing was not an option. Fortunately, they require masks be worn.
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I think it is more complicated than that. We Americans are a very fat people for sure but there are plenty of obese blimps in AUS and NZ too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_obesity_rate
USA 36.2%
New Zealand 30.8%
Australia 28.0%
UK 27.8%
Rates in most of continental Europe are quite a bit lower.
US Obesity rate is now over 42%. Overweight rate has increased from ~40% to over 73% over the past 10 years. :(
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/obesity-overweight.htm
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immunity
this experimental gene therapy does not provide 'immunity'.
At the moment, I am feeling pretty damn good.
again, the problem with the experimental biological agent that u have chosen to pollute yourself with is that this tech fuked test animals at a much later point in time.
it does not matter how u 'feel' now - on a long enough timeline – the mortality rate skyrockets.
the science is clear.
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this experimental gene therapy does not provide 'immunity'.
Once big Pharma gets you on a drug, they want to keep you on it. Thus, we are now hearing about “Booster” shots.
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sometimes, I wonder... if drug manufacturers accurately described this technology for what it is – a fraudulent, unapproved, experimental gene therapy that killed the test animals unfortunate enough to b injected with it... based on a lab created bio weapon - would the tards still line up?
would they nonchalantly become the next group of 'test animals'... for no good reason at all?
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mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are really ‘gene therapy’ and not vaccines
former professor at the University of Virginia’s school of medicine Dr. David Martin, Ph.D
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/mrna-covid-19-vaccines-are-really-gene-therapy-and-not-vaccines-ethicist
“The problem is that in the case of Moderna and Pfizer, this is not a vaccine. This is gene therapy,” he continued. The Moderna and Pfizer creations send “a strand of synthetic RNA into the human being and is invoking within the human being the creation of the S1 spike protein, which is a pathogen.”
“This is not only not keeping you from getting sick, it’s making your body produce the thing that makes you sick,” Martin added.
The interviewer admitted that this description – that the injection makes one's body produce an effect that makes one sick – sounds somewhat similar to the effect of vaccines.
But Martin countered that it is “not at all” like a vaccine, since “a vaccine is supposed to trigger immunity. It’s not supposed to trigger you to make a toxin.”
“It’s not somewhat different. It’s not the same at all,” Martin explained. “It’s a means by which your body is conscripted to make the toxin that then allegedly your body somehow gets used to dealing with, but unlike a vaccine, which is to trigger the immune response, this is to trigger the creation of the toxin.”
Targeting the pharmaceutical companies behind the supposed vaccinations, Martin alleged that they have manipulated clinical trial methodology to push their “vaccines” through development and production.
“They (pharmaceutical companies) said they could not test for the existence or absence of the virus and they could not test for the transmissivity because they said it would be impractical. (lol) The companies themselves have admitted to every single thing I’m saying, but they are using the public manipulation of the word vaccine to co-opt the public into believing they’re getting a thing which they are not getting.”
Instead, Martin warns that an mRNA injection “is not going to stop you from getting coronavirus. It’s not going to stop you from getting sick. In fact, on the contrary, it will make you sick far more often than the virus itself.”
Martin presented data confirming his claim, noting that after receiving their second shot of the jab, “80 percent of people had one or more clinical presentations of COVID-19,” whereas “80 percent of people who have an infection according to RT-PCR have no symptoms at all.”
Explaining what the figures mean, he said that people “will get COVID-19 symptoms from getting the gene therapy passed off as a vaccine. You will get COVID symptoms from that 80 percent of the time. If you’re exposed to SARS-CoV-2 according to RT-PCR (positive PCR test), 80 percent of the time you will have no symptoms at all.”
Looking more closely at the claims emanating from the clinical trials, Martin questioned the integrity of companies developing mRNA “gene therapy technology.”
“A human being is going to be potentially exposed to unclassified, both short-term and long-term, risks of altering their RNA and DNA from exposure to this gene therapy,” Martin warned. Of the 40,000 participants in Moderna’s clinical trial, Martin noted that only a “few hundred people had a few days less severe symptoms with the gene therapy when compared to the other control group.”
Even this, he said, is unreliable information, as the pharmaceutical firms “separate out adverse events from actual COVID symptoms.” This allowed the companies to reclassify “a lot of what would have been considered to be COVID symptoms by calling them adverse events,” giving rise to “this ridiculous 90 percent plus effectiveness.”
“As a result of that, we have both a methodology problem, which by the way, has been criticized by a number of clinical scientists. The bigger problem is that they’re still not measuring viral susceptibility and viral transmission. Those are the two legs of the stool that is (sic) required for anyone to say that they are vaccinating a population for public health reasons.”
Martin advised that “this (gene therapy) is not a prophylactic, this is not helping us, we are being told to take a treatment for a disease we don’t have and most likely will not have.”
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So...it is late in day two after my second Moderna COVID vaccine. Didn't feel that great yesterday, just a bit under the weather and I took a long nap mid-day. Slept in late this morning. Felt okay when I finally got out of bed. Peed a little more than usual. Otherwise, today wasn't much different than any other day except that I feel a little more protected from getting deathly ill with COVID. Read in the newspaper that some people became ill and a few may have succumbed to COVID despite being vaccinated against it. Guess there are no sure things. It is like you can wear a condom to avoid a pregnancy and sometimes the condom breaks. Life isn't perfect. You just do what you can and hope for the best. At the moment, I am feeling pretty damn good.
the trials of the vaccine end in 2023
Just so you know....
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Once big Pharma gets you on a drug, they want to keep you on it. Thus, we are now hearing about “Booster” shots.
Many vaccines require a booster shot. I did so many years ago with the pneumonia vaccine. Why would they want to keep you on booster shots forever? It cost me nothing. Not ever a copay. But it's kind of a moot point because this booster shot, along with the one I got for shingles, were years ago. As an aside, three people in my family got shingles several years ago. One that live in my household. I was surprisingly spared.
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mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are really ‘gene therapy’ and not vaccines
former professor at the University of Virginia’s school of medicine Dr. David Martin, Ph.D
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/mrna-covid-19-vaccines-are-really-gene-therapy-and-not-vaccines-ethicist
“The problem is that in the case of Moderna and Pfizer, this is not a vaccine. This is gene therapy,” he continued. The Moderna and Pfizer creations send “a strand of synthetic RNA into the human being and is invoking within the human being the creation of the S1 spike protein, which is a pathogen.”
“This is not only not keeping you from getting sick, it’s making your body produce the thing that makes you sick,” Martin added.
The interviewer admitted that this description – that the injection makes one's body produce an effect that makes one sick – sounds somewhat similar to the effect of vaccines.
But Martin countered that it is “not at all” like a vaccine, since “a vaccine is supposed to trigger immunity. It’s not supposed to trigger you to make a toxin.”
“It’s not somewhat different. It’s not the same at all,” Martin explained. “It’s a means by which your body is conscripted to make the toxin that then allegedly your body somehow gets used to dealing with, but unlike a vaccine, which is to trigger the immune response, this is to trigger the creation of the toxin.”
Targeting the pharmaceutical companies behind the supposed vaccinations, Martin alleged that they have manipulated clinical trial methodology to push their “vaccines” through development and production.
“They (pharmaceutical companies) said they could not test for the existence or absence of the virus and they could not test for the transmissivity because they said it would be impractical. (lol) The companies themselves have admitted to every single thing I’m saying, but they are using the public manipulation of the word vaccine to co-opt the public into believing they’re getting a thing which they are not getting.”
Instead, Martin warns that an mRNA injection “is not going to stop you from getting coronavirus. It’s not going to stop you from getting sick. In fact, on the contrary, it will make you sick far more often than the virus itself.”
Martin presented data confirming his claim, noting that after receiving their second shot of the jab, “80 percent of people had one or more clinical presentations of COVID-19,” whereas “80 percent of people who have an infection according to RT-PCR have no symptoms at all.”
Explaining what the figures mean, he said that people “will get COVID-19 symptoms from getting the gene therapy passed off as a vaccine. You will get COVID symptoms from that 80 percent of the time. If you’re exposed to SARS-CoV-2 according to RT-PCR (positive PCR test), 80 percent of the time you will have no symptoms at all.”
Looking more closely at the claims emanating from the clinical trials, Martin questioned the integrity of companies developing mRNA “gene therapy technology.”
“A human being is going to be potentially exposed to unclassified, both short-term and long-term, risks of altering their RNA and DNA from exposure to this gene therapy,” Martin warned. Of the 40,000 participants in Moderna’s clinical trial, Martin noted that only a “few hundred people had a few days less severe symptoms with the gene therapy when compared to the other control group.”
Even this, he said, is unreliable information, as the pharmaceutical firms “separate out adverse events from actual COVID symptoms.” This allowed the companies to reclassify “a lot of what would have been considered to be COVID symptoms by calling them adverse events,” giving rise to “this ridiculous 90 percent plus effectiveness.”
“As a result of that, we have both a methodology problem, which by the way, has been criticized by a number of clinical scientists. The bigger problem is that they’re still not measuring viral susceptibility and viral transmission. Those are the two legs of the stool that is (sic) required for anyone to say that they are vaccinating a population for public health reasons.”
Martin advised that “this (gene therapy) is not a prophylactic, this is not helping us, we are being told to take a treatment for a disease we don’t have and most likely will not have.”
You predict a lot of gloom and doom. Why not just be straight. What is the end result for all this conspiracy. Not just some vague, "So the government can control its people." Be specific on how our daily lives will change and about when will all this come to fruition?
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What I've read suggests that folks who've had COVID-19 should still get vaccinated against it. One reason given is that no one knows how long immunity lasts following the illness....my thought is that this also applies to the vaccine. Some people have gotten sick with COVID after being vaccinated against it. It is hard to know when these things become overkill. A crystal ball would sure come in handy.
Somebody is lying. Let us see if he has his medical license in the next couple of months.
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You predict a lot of gloom and doom. Why not just be straight. What is the end result for all this conspiracy. Not just some vague, "So the government can control its people." Be specific on how our daily lives will change and about when will all this come to fruition?
Its all about zero carbon emissions
They are changing the way we live our lives all over the world
by 2050 there will be no such thing as commercial flying
By 2035 there will be only 3 airports in the UK ,Glasgow , Birmingham and Heathrow
read some of the plans for zero carbon emissions
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It’s interesting to talk to people who believe every bit of bullshit they hear from the government and the media.
Yesterday, I brought up to a few people in my running club the inconsistency of having indoor dining open and people sitting indoors in groups without masks and at the same time people running outdoors with masks. The reaction I got was strictly cognitive dissonance. “Let’s change the subject.”
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16 seconds of Department of Justice Mask Theater.
Continuous footage all from one vantage point:
1. Offstage, DOJ douchebag is not wearing a mask.
2. Offstage, DOJ douchebag puts on a mask.
3. Onstage, DOJ douchebag walks to podium wearing a mask.
4. Onstage, DOJ douchebag removes "his" mask.
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16 seconds of Department of Justice Mask Theater.
Continuous footage all from one vantage point:
1. Offstage, DOJ douchebag is not wearing a mask.
2. Offstage, DOJ douchebag puts on a mask.
3. Onstage, DOJ douchebag walks to podium wearing a mask.
4. Onstage, DOJ douchebag removes "his" mask.
Hahaha I love it. Great find😎
Prime Muscle, Abe G where u at?
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=671794.0
On cue, you missed the whole point. I’m saying he put it on just before he went out in public just to show that he was wearing a mask only to immediately take it off. It was fucking theater.
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Many vaccines require a booster shot. I did so many years ago with the pneumonia vaccine. Why would they want to keep you on booster shots forever? It cost me nothing. Not ever a copay. But it's kind of a moot point because this booster shot, along with the one I got for shingles, were years ago. As an aside, three people in my family got shingles several years ago. One that live in my household. I was surprisingly spared.
As best as I know, people still have the option to get vaccinated or not....at least in the U.S. they do. That being the case 'big pharma' doesn't you on a drug, you do. The ramifications of not getting vaccinated may make you feel like you don't have a choice, but you do.
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Hahaha I love it. Great find😎
Prime Muscle, Abe G where u at?
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=671794.0
Just goes to show that you never know when you are being watched. :) It also shows when you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. At no time in that video except when he put the mask on was he close enough to anybody to infect them. So yeah, it is pretty obvious his putting the mask on was all for show. Guess that didn't work out too well.
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Many vaccines require a booster shot. I did so many years ago with the pneumonia vaccine. Why would they want to keep you on booster shots forever? It cost me nothing. Not ever a copay. But it's kind of a moot point because this booster shot, along with the one I got for shingles, were years ago. As an aside, three people in my family got shingles several years ago. One that live in my household. I was surprisingly spared.
The government buys the vaccine from the pharmaceutical companies. So we are paying just not directly.
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You guys crack me up shoot a vaccine proven to work phizer,JnJ take your pick on delivery method, NO WAY! Shoot oil made in a China mans bath tub to put on 20 lbs of muscle, sign me up bro! :D
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Many vaccines require a booster shot. I did so many years ago with the pneumonia vaccine. Why would they want to keep you on booster shots forever? It cost me nothing. Not ever a copay. But it's kind of a moot point because this booster shot, along with the one I got for shingles, were years ago. As an aside, three people in my family got shingles several years ago. One that live in my household. I was surprisingly spared.
I had shingles once and it is no joke as I am sure you know from the other folks in your family who had shingles. It took me awhile, but I got the Shringrix shingles shots a couple of years ago. Protection stays above 85% for 4 years and my last much longer.
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You guys crack me up shoot a vaccine proven to work phizer,JnJ take your pick on delivery method, NO WAY! Shoot oil made in a China mans bath tub to put on 20 lbs of muscle, sign me up bro! :D
Ironic, isn't it? One difference is some people feel they are being forced to get a COVID vaccination while putting illegitimate oil in your body is a choice they make. Funny because both things are a choice. Folks just don't see it that way.
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Ironic, isn't it? One difference is some people feel they are being forced to get a COVID vaccination while putting illegitimate oil in your body is a choice they make. Funny because both things are a choice. Folks just don't see it that way.
Is there a way to have the Vaccine removed?😉
Study finds COVID variant affects vaccinated individuals more than unvaccinated
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/study-covid-variant-pfizer-vaccinated-unvaccinated
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Is there a way to have the Vaccine removed?😉
Study finds COVID variant affects vaccinated individuals more than unvaccinated
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/study-covid-variant-pfizer-vaccinated-unvaccinated
Time for Pfizer to develop and anti-vaccine. ;D
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Is there a way to have the Vaccine removed?😉
Study finds COVID variant affects vaccinated individuals more than unvaccinated
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/study-covid-variant-pfizer-vaccinated-unvaccinated
Journalists should wait for studies to be peer reviewed before writing headlines as they are generally clueless when it comes to looking at data.
What the data actually shows is that vaccinated people have very high levels of protection against the British variant, but some cases of the South African variant breaks through and infects vaccinated individuals.
In unvaccinated people the British variant has spread significantly compared to the south African variant, so the vast majority of infections occurring are of the British variant .
The study doesn't show "Study finds COVID variant affects vaccinated individuals more than unvaccinated". It shows that the Pfizer vaccine isn't as good at protecting against the South African variant as it is against the British.
Real world conclusion of the study: Old people and fat fucks may at some point need further modified vaccinations to protect against the SA variant.
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Over 12,000 People Test Positive For Covid After Taking Pfizer Vaccine In Israel
https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/world-news-over-12000-people-test-positive-for-covid-after-taking-pfizer-vaccine-in-israel/371342
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Over 12,000 People Test Positive For Covid After Taking Pfizer Vaccine In Israel
https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/world-news-over-12000-people-test-positive-for-covid-after-taking-pfizer-vaccine-in-israel/371342
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Time Online (No one buys magazines anymore) FucBoi of the Year and his fucboi vaccine which he still hasn't taken. Don't believe the lies. He refused to have it administered on camera, verified by an independent 3rd party?
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Time Online (No one buys magazines anymore) FucBoi of the Year and his fucboi vaccine which he still hasn't taken. Don't believe the lies. He refused to have it administered on camera, verified by an independent 3rd party?
why would he just not say he had one?
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Recalls. Lies. Propaganda. Bullshit. There's no end to this!
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Trying to put this sh!t on children now. You have to be out of your phucking mind to let the vaccinate your kid. Since the dawn of man, children have been the vectors for everything from Indian fire to pinworms.
Naw Bish, not everybody!
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Really, break-through cases. I think there are break-through cases when you get the flu shot yearly. You have to be phucking kidding me! This bish is perfectly healthy in a 10-14 day quarantine, which would have to happen if she didn't have the fucboi vaccine and tested positive. Why do people think this sh!t is a cure?
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We could use an asteroid about now.
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Journalists should wait for studies to be peer reviewed before writing headlines as they are generally clueless when it comes to looking at data.
What the data actually shows is that vaccinated people have very high levels of protection against the British variant, but some cases of the South African variant breaks through and infects vaccinated individuals.
In unvaccinated people the British variant has spread significantly compared to the south African variant, so the vast majority of infections occurring are of the British variant .
The study doesn't show "Study finds COVID variant affects vaccinated individuals more than unvaccinated". It shows that the Pfizer vaccine isn't as good at protecting against the South African variant as it is against the British.
Real world conclusion of the study: Old people and fat fucks may at some point need further modified vaccinations to protect against the SA variant.
I'm with you about the media reporting bad information about the latest COVID stats. Everyday, all day long, there are conflicting news articles published or released by the media. I get that COVID is at the forefront of most people's thoughts, but constantly changing or inaccurate announcements about it is harmful to our mental health.
Almost immediately following my second Moderna vaccine there was a news article in the Oregonian that people who had been fully vaccinated were getting ill with the African variant. What the heck is a person supposed to think? One finds themselves questioning their decision to be vaccinated. Paranoia sets in. Yesterday, I felt under the weather and I couldn't stop having to clear my throat and spit....I immediately starting thinking I was one of those vaccinated folks who gets COVID despite being vaccinated and despite pretty diligently wearing a mask when guaranteed social distancing isn't possible. Like the other day at Home Depot when it was so crowded I drove around the parking lot for quite awhile before a parking space opened up....the store was more crowded than it was pre-COVID. I feel fine today, thank goodness.
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Is there a way to have the Vaccine removed?😉
Study finds COVID variant affects vaccinated individuals more than unvaccinated
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/study-covid-variant-pfizer-vaccinated-unvaccinated
That's not what the article suggests.
They studied a group of people who tested positive for covid despite being vaccinated, and found out that the rate of the South African variant is 8 times higher than in the general population.
That implies that the vaccine's protection against the SA variant is lower than that of the British variant. If the protection against the 2 variants were the same, you'd expect a rate of the SA variant similar to that of the general population.
Also, the study doesn't suggest anything about the effectiveness of the vaccine, since it only looked at people who tested positive. However, the change in the rate of the prevalence of variants indicates that one of them is being supressed while the other is not.
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Looking at Pfizer’s stock makes me think this Vaccine scam doesn’t have much of a shelf life. That chart has pump and dump characteristics:
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Same drill with Moderna. Looks more like a shorting candidate than a buy and hold.
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Latest VAERS Data Show Vaccine Injury Trends Continue, CDC Fails to Respond to The Defender’s Inquiries
VAERS data released today showed 56,869 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,342 deaths and 7,971 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and April 1, 2021.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaers-data-vaccine-injury-trends-continue/
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Pope Francis calls for ‘global governance’ and ‘universal vaccines’ in letter to globalist financial summit
VATICAN CITY, April 8, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) – Pope Francis has addressed the World Bank and International Monetary Fund at their spring meeting, calling for “global governance” in light of COVID-19, strongly advocating for universal vaccines, and bemoaning the “ecological debt” which is owed to “nature itself.”
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pope-francis-calls-for-global-governance-and-universal-vaccines-in-letter-to-globalist-financial-summit
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FDA temporarily halts use of Johnson & Johnson vaccine due to rare blood clotting issues
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/13/us-regulators-reportedly-call-for-pause-in-use-of-johnson-johnson-vaccine-due-to-clotting-issues.html
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Pausing it because six people (all of them probably obese) out of X million had a complication seems a bit extreme.
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Latest VAERS Data Show Vaccine Injury Trends Continue, CDC Fails to Respond to The Defender’s Inquiries
VAERS data released today showed 56,869 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,342 deaths and 7,971 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and April 1, 2021.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaers-data-vaccine-injury-trends-continue/
facebook fact checker has this to say about this article
Misleading: The article cites instances of adverse events like Bell’s palsy and death occurring post-vaccination as “vaccine injuries”, implying that the COVID-19 vaccines caused these events (the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy). However, simply because an event occurred after vaccination does not mean that vaccination caused the event. Furthermore, some of the events cited were unrelated to the vaccine or were of dubious origin.
isnt that a bit like saying "deaths with Covid doesnt mean that covid caused the death"?
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facebook fact checker has this to say about this article
isnt that a bit like saying "deaths with Covid doesnt mean that covid caused the death"?
Lol.
No covid is the root causes of deaths, vaccine issues are purely coincidental.
You can’t make this up.
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FDA temporarily halts use of Johnson & Johnson vaccine due to rare blood clotting issues
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/13/us-regulators-reportedly-call-for-pause-in-use-of-johnson-johnson-vaccine-due-to-clotting-issues.html
Locking down innocent and healthy ppl, and now requiring this poison to travel or engage in society. All done through msm fear-mongering and their beloved divide and conquer strategy
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Locking down innocent and healthy ppl, and now requiring this poison to travel or engage in society. All done through msm fear-mongering and their beloved divide and conquer strategy
It’s just a big Pharma scam. We’re reopening and going back whether the population is vaccinated or not.
The stock market always give you a peek into the future. Zoom was the darling stay at home stock. It peaked in October and has been going down the toilet ever since.
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facebook fact checker has this to say about this article
isnt that a bit like saying "deaths with Covid doesnt mean that covid caused the death"?
Reported!
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facebook fact checker has this to say about this article
They are right.
Very often you can't imply causality from an observational study. In observational studies there's no control of other variables (confounders) that could affect the variable being measured.
For instance, in the article cited they look at people who took the vaccine and claim there's a large number of people who have had serious complications or even died afterwards. For sake of simplicity, let's just talk about deaths.
- First thing you wanna do is look at the death rate among those vaccinated and the death rate in the general population. Are they too similar? If so, there's probably no relationship between vaccination and death.
- If there is a significant difference between those rates, you may want to subdivide the study population. Age is probably a confounder, so you may want to compare the death rate in groups, e.g. people of age 60 - 70 in both the vaccinated and general population. If the death rate is similar among groups, it may be that the vaccinated population had more older people, so the overall death rate is higher but it stays the same among groups.
- If after evaluating relevant confounders or applying some other statistical method the death rate is still higher, then they may have a case. However, the article doesn't do any of that.
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They are right.
Very often you can't imply causality from an observational study. In observational studies there's no control of other variables (confounders) that could affect the variable being measured.
For instance, in the article cited they look at people who took the vaccine and claim there's a large number of people who have had serious complications or even died afterwards. For sake of simplicity, let's just talk about deaths.
- First thing you wanna do is look at the death rate among those vaccinated and the death rate in the general population. Are they too similar? If so, there's probably no relationship between vaccination and death.
- If there is a significant difference between those rates, you may want to subdivide the study population. Age is probably a confounder, so you may want to compare the death rate in groups, e.g. people of age 60 - 70 in both the vaccinated and general population. If the death rate is similar among groups, it may be that the vaccinated population had more older people, so the overall death rate is higher but it stays the same among groups.
- If after evaluating relevant confounders or applying some other statistical method the death rate is still higher, then they may have a case. However, the article doesn't do any of that.
and by the same argument you cant say everyone that has died "with" covid has died "because" of covid.
Some of the cases on the CDC website have 70 year old people dying 2 hours after a vaccine, it then states "the vaccine played no part in their death", they cant say that for certain unless they got run over by a bus.
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and by the same argument you cant say everyone that has died "with" covid has died "because" of covid.
I'm not certain of how doctors determine the cause of death. Sounds like it's not very straightforward so there are probably many cases of people dying with covid and not from covid. How is counted probably varies depending on the country.
That being said, I'm not sure the distinction is enough to downplay the virus. For instance, if you look at the hospitalization and/or death rate among people 50 years and older, with high BP and the death rate among people 50 years and older, with high BP and covid, what's the difference? I honestly don't know, but if there's an important difference, and you or some of your relatives fall into this group, then you may want to take precautions.
Some of the cases on the CDC website have 70 year old people dying 2 hours after a vaccine, it then states "the vaccine played no part in their death", they cant say that for certain unless they got run over by a bus.
Indeed, they can't know that.
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Pausing it because six people (all of them probably obese) out of X million had a complication seems a bit extreme.
Not extreme if they are downplaying the actual numbers.
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Never thought I'd see the day where people on this site would be against injectables ;D
Maybe 6 deaths are an extreme number for a safe vaccine.
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Pausing it because six people (all of them probably obese) out of X million had a complication seems a bit extreme.
Are obese folks prone to blood clots? I didn't know this. But, I think you are right.
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facebook fact checker has this to say about this article
isnt that a bit like saying "deaths with Covid doesnt mean that covid caused the death"?
Ya think?
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Even though the numbers are minuscule, these deaths are unsettling. In reading about this, I was glad that I didn't get the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. Had there been a choice at the time of my first vaccine, I would likely have chosen Johnson and Johnson because only having to get one shot seemed like a good idea.
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Has done nothing but create fear and panic for the past year but now we should stay calm😂😂😂
‘No one who has received this vaccine should panic or worry,’ Murphy says of J&J COVID shot
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/04/no-one-who-has-received-this-vaccine-should-panic-or-worry-murphy-says-of-jj-covid-shot.html
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Could mRNA vaccines permanently alter DNA? Recent science suggests they might
Research on SARS-CoV-2 RNA by scientists at Harvard and MIT has implications for how mRNA vaccines could permanently alter genomic DNA, according to Doug Corrigan, Ph.D., a biochemist-molecular biologist who says more research is needed.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/could-mrna-vaccines-permanently-alter-dna-recent-science-suggests-they-might
April 9, 2021 Over the past year, it would be all but impossible for Americans not to notice the media’s decision to make vaccines the dominant COVID narrative, rushing to do so even before any coronavirus-attributed deaths occurred.
The media’s slanted coverage has provided a particularly fruitful public relations boost for messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines — decades in the making but never approved for human use — helping to usher the experimental technology closer to the regulatory finish line.
Under ordinary circumstances, the body makes (“transcribes”) mRNA from the DNA in a cell’s nucleus. The mRNA then travels out of the nucleus into the cytoplasm, where it provides instructions about which proteins to make.
By comparison, mRNA vaccines send their chemically synthesized mRNA payload (bundled with spike protein-manufacturing instructions) directly into the cytoplasm.
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and most mRNA vaccine scientists, the buck then stops there — mRNA vaccines “do not affect or interact with our DNA in any way,” the CDC says. The CDC asserts first, that the mRNA cannot enter the cell’s nucleus (where DNA resides), and second, that the cell — Mission-Impossible-style (lmfao) — “gets rid of the mRNA soon after it is finished using the instructions.”
A December preprint about SARS-CoV-2, by scientists at Harvard and Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), produced findings about wild coronavirus that raise questions about how viral RNA operates.
The scientists conducted the analysis because they were “puzzled by the fact that there is a respectable number of people who are testing positive for COVID-19 by PCR long after the infection was gone.”
Their key findings were as follows: SARS-CoV-2 RNAs “can be reverse transcribed in human cells,” “these DNA sequences can be integrated into the cell genome and subsequently be transcribed” (a phenomenon called “retro-integration”) — and there are viable cellular pathways to explain how this happens.
According to Ph.D. biochemist and molecular biologist Dr. Doug Corrigan, these important findings (which run contrary to “current biological dogma”) belong to the category of “Things We Were Absolutely and Unequivocally Certain Couldn’t Happen Which Actually Happened.”
The findings of the Harvard and MIT researchers also put the CDC’s assumptions about mRNA vaccines on shakier ground, according to Corrigan. In fact, a month before the Harvard-MIT preprint appeared, Corrigan had already written a blog outlining possible mechanisms and pathways whereby mRNA vaccines could produce the identical phenomenon.
In a second blog post, written after the preprint came out, Corrigan emphasized that the Harvard-MIT findings about coronavirus RNA have major implications for mRNA vaccines — a fact he describes as “the big elephant in the room.” While not claiming that vaccine RNA will necessarily behave in the same way as coronavirus RNA — that is, permanently altering genomic DNA — Corrigan believes that the possibility exists and deserves close scrutiny.
In Corrigan’s view, the preprint’s contribution is that it “validates that this is at least plausible, and most likely probable.”
Reverse transcription
As the phrase “reverse transcription” implies, the DNA-to-mRNA pathway is not always a one-way street. Enzymes called reverse transcriptases can also convert RNA into DNA, allowing the latter to be integrated into the DNA in the cell nucleus.
Nor is reverse transcription uncommon. Geneticists report that “Over 40% of mammalian genomes comprise the products of reverse transcription.”
The preliminary evidence cited by the Harvard-MIT researchers indicates that endogenous reverse transcriptase enzymes may facilitate reverse transcription of coronavirus RNAs and trigger their integration into the human genome.
The authors suggest that while the clinical consequences require further study, detrimental effects are a distinct possibility and — depending on the integrated viral fragments’ “insertion sites in the human genome” and an individual’s underlying health status — could include “a more severe immune response … such as a ‘cytokine storm’ or auto-immune reactions.”
In 2012, a study suggested that viral genome integration could “lead to drastic consequences for the host cell, including gene disruption, insertional mutagenesis and cell death.”
Corrigan makes a point of saying that the pathways hypothesized to facilitate retro-integration of viral — or vaccine — RNA into DNA “are not unknown to people who understand molecular biology at a deeper level.”
Even so, the preprint’s discussion of reverse transcription and genome integration elicited a maelstrom of negative comments from readers unwilling to rethink biological dogma, some of whom even advocated for retraction (though preprints are, by definition, unpublished) on the grounds that “conspiracy theorists … will take this paper to ‘proof’ that mRNA vaccines can in fact alter your genetic code.”
More thoughtful readers agreed with Corrigan that the paper raises important questions. For example, one reader stated that confirmatory evidence is lacking “to show that the spike protein only is expressed for a short amount of time (say 1-3 days) after vaccination,” adding, “We think that this is the case, but there is no evidence for that.”
In fact, just how long the vaccines’ synthetic mRNA — and thus the instructions for cells to keep manufacturing spike protein — persist inside the cells is an open question.
Ordinarily, RNA is a “notoriously fragile” and unstable molecule. According to scientists, “this fragility is true of the mRNA of any living thing, whether it belongs to a plant, bacteria, virus or human.”
But the synthetic mRNA in the COVID vaccines is a different story. In fact, the step that ultimately allowed scientists and vaccine manufacturers to resolve their decades-long mRNA vaccine impasse was when they figured out how to chemically modify mRNA to increase its stability and longevity — in other words, produce RNA “that hangs around in the cell much longer than viral RNA, or even RNA that our cell normally produces for normal protein production.”
It is anyone’s guess what the synthetic mRNA is doing while it is “hanging around,” but Corrigan speculates that its enhanced longevity raises the probability of it “being converted over into DNA.”
Moreover, because the vaccine mRNA is also engineered to be more efficient at being translated into protein, “negative effects could be more frequent and more pronounced with the vaccine when compared to the natural virus.”
Dollar signs
Corrigan acknowledges that some people may dismiss his warnings, saying “If the virus is able to accomplish this, then why should I care if the vaccine does the same thing?”
He has a ready and compelling response:
“[T]here’s a big difference between the scenario where people randomly, and unwittingly, have their genetics monkeyed with because they were exposed to the coronavirus, and the scenario where we willfully vaccinate billions of people while telling them this isn’t happening.”
Unfortunately, the prevailing attitude seems to be that the “race to get the public vaccinated” justifies taking these extra risks.
In mid-November, after the Jerusalem Post told readers that “when the world begins inoculating itself with these completely new and revolutionary vaccines, it will know virtually nothing about their long-term effects,” an Israeli hospital director argued that it’s not worth waiting two more years to ferret out mRNA vaccines’ “unique and unknown risks” or potential long-term effects.
In the U.S., enthusiasm for mRNA technology is similarly unfettered. Just a few days after the CDC released updated data showing that more than 2,200 deaths of individuals who had received either the Pfizer or Moderna mRNA vaccines had been reported as of Mar. 26 , The Atlantic praised the technology, suggesting that the “ingenious” synthetic mRNA technology behind Pfizer’s and Moderna’s COVID vaccines represented a “breakthrough” that could “change the world.”
Rather than dismiss the prospect of retro-integration of foreign DNA as a “conspiracy theory,” scientists should be conducting studies with the mRNA-vaccinated to assess actual risks.
In old Disney cartoons, viewers often witnessed Donald Duck’s rich uncle, Scrooge McDuck’s, “bulging eyes [turn] into oversized Vegas slot machine dollar signs” when contemplating opportunities to increase his already immense wealth.
Judging by pharmaceutical company executives’ willingness to overlook mRNA vaccines’ long-term — and possibly multigenerational — risks, they must be similarly entranced by dollar-sign visions of a never-ending pipeline of “plug and play” mRNA products.
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SARS-CoV-2 RNA reverse-transcribed and integrated into the human genome
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2020/12/13/2020.12.12.422516.full.pdf
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The pay-per-dosage scam isn't working as expected so they are suggesting a mandatory fucboi booster.
Moderna CEO sees likely need for COVID booster for high-risk groups, eyes flu market
CEO Stephane Bancel told Yahoo Finance Wednesday that governments are now focused on booster shots for next year, even though it unclear what type of booster shot will be needed — or when it will be needed — as worries surface over emerging variants.
I'm tired of these bishes with the variant scare tactic. It's natural viral mutations for self-survival, not HUMAN mortality. FOH!
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The pay-per-dosage scam isn't working as expected so they are suggesting a mandatory fucboi booster.
Moderna CEO sees likely need for COVID booster for high-risk groups, eyes flu market
CEO Stephane Bancel told Yahoo Finance Wednesday that governments are now focused on booster shots for next year, even though it unclear what type of booster shot will be needed — or when it will be needed — as worries surface over emerging variants.
I'm tired of these bishes with the variant scare tactic. It's natural viral mutations for self-survival, not HUMAN mortality. FOH!
Remember, Covid wiped out the flu😂😂😂. So, there’s no reason to get an old school flu shot.
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Apparently, it’s the end of the world in Toronto. So, I looked up the numbers. The median age is in the 80s.
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Bad optics during vaccine announcement:
"Denmark - When announcing the discontinuation of the AstraZeneca vaccine, the director Tanja Erichsen of the Medicines Agency simply topples over."
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Bad optics during vaccine announcement:
"Denmark - When announcing the discontinuation of the AstraZeneca vaccine, the director Tanja Erichsen of the Medicines Agency simply topples over."
LOL high cant make this up!
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Like I and so many others say, we’re officially living in Clown World.
Concerning the experimental gene drug (“vaccine”, lol), once that potion goes into your body, you can NEVER get it out.
Intelligent, calm and researched individuals don’t (or at least, have very little) fear of this weak-sauce virus, but absolutely have a considerable amount for a rushed and hugely experimental drug.
Again, it’s pathetic, disturbing and unnerving how many simply “go along” with what’s put to them through political “leaders” (and their bought med personnel), mainstream media and Big Pharma.
Humans are prone, in general, to being emotional, over-reactive and largely “following” (sheep).
Pathetic.
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Like i and so many others say, we’re officially living in Clown World.
Concerning the experimental gene drug (“vaccine”, lol), once that potion goes into your body, you can NEVER get it out.
Intelligent, calm and researched individuals don’t (or at least, have very little) fear of this weak-sauce virus, but absolutely have a considerable amount for a rushed and hugely experimental drug.
Again, it’s pathetic, disturbing and unnerving how many simply “go along” with what’s put to them through political “leaders” (and their bought med personnel), mainstream media and Big Pharma.
Humans are prone, in general, to being emotional, over-reactive and largely “following” (sheep).
Pathetic.
I am in the process of reducing my contact with people to the absolute bare minimum..
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My strategy is to not get it and if anybody asks me if I have gotten it they’ll be told to mind her own fucking business.
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My strategy is to not get it and if anybody asks me if I have gotten it they’ll be told to mind her own fucking business.
I have had two phone calls now to go for my jab, next time they phone I will just tell them I have had it and tell them to book it down as such..
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Like i and so many others say, we’re officially living in Clown World.
Concerning the experimental gene drug (“vaccine”, lol), once that potion goes into your body, you can NEVER get it out.
Intelligent, calm and researched individuals don’t (or at least, have very little) fear of this weak-sauce virus, but absolutely have a considerable amount for a rushed and hugely experimental drug.
Again, it’s pathetic, disturbing and unnerving how many simply “go along” with what’s put to them through political “leaders” (and their bought med personnel), mainstream media and Big Pharma.
Humans are prone, in general, to being emotional, over-reactive and largely “following” (sheep).
Pathetic.
On point, as usual..
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Bad optics during vaccine announcement:
"Denmark - When announcing the discontinuation of the AstraZeneca vaccine, the director Tanja Erichsen of the Medicines Agency simply topples over."
Watched at 1/4 speed just to watch her head bounce off the ground.
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Bad optics during vaccine announcement:
"Denmark - When announcing the discontinuation of the AstraZeneca vaccine, the director Tanja Erichsen of the Medicines Agency simply topples over."
Good stuff.
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Ezekiel Emanuel Pushes National Vaccine Mandate
Ever the autocrat, Obamacare architect and Biden health-care adviser Ezekiel Emanuel has co-authored a call in the New York Times for vaccine mandates.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/ezekiel-emanuel-pushes-national-vaccine-mandate/
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Bad optics during vaccine announcement:
"Denmark - When announcing the discontinuation of the AstraZeneca vaccine, the director Tanja Erichsen of the Medicines Agency simply topples over."
LOL, do the vaccines cause fainting episodes? Looks like this side effect is white woman-specific.
FOH with experimental compounds!
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CDC: 3,005 Recorded Deaths in VAERS Following COVID-19 Experimental “Vaccines” – More than Total Vaccine Deaths for Past 13+ Years
The CDC announced today that deaths reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), a U.S. Government funded database that tracks injuries and deaths caused by vaccines, following experimental COVID injections, have now surpassed 3000 deaths since December of 2020, when the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA COVID shots were given emergency use authorization (EUA) by the FDA
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3950928/posts?page=35
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The nuttiest conspiracy theory ever. Published on Youtube in September 20,2019.
This was pre-pandemic.
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The nuttiest conspiracy theory ever. Published on Youtube in September 20,2019.
This was pre-pandemic.
Most white women are bat crazy but I have to give her credit. Good going, Becky!
Texas Gov. Abbott says state is ‘very close’ to herd immunity. The data tells a different story.
TX Gov is dropping the same dimes as FL's Gov, and they are trying to silence him too with BS datum.
Unadulterated phuckery!
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I have had two phone calls now to go for my jab, next time they phone I will just tell them I have had it and tell them to book it down as such..
This shit is so predictable. Flu season is winding down as it does this time every year and they’ll give the vaccine credit:
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Time Online FucBoi of the Year
COVID-19 booster shot likely needed within 12 months, Pfizer's CEO says
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Go to hell!
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herd immunity.
The Theory of “Herd Immunity”
In an epidemiological review paper titled “Herd Immunity: History, Theory, Practice,” written by Paul E. M. Fine and published in 1993, the author notes that the first “published use” of the term herd immunity “appears to have been” in a paper titled “The spread of bacterial infection: the problem of herd immunity,” written by W. W. C. Topley and G. S. Wilson and published in 1923. From Fine’s paper, it seems that the theory of herd immunity was originally developed based on some observations with mice and some “simple mathematical formulations,” but the paper is unclear about whether the theory was ever validated through some of sort scientific peer review process – as is commonly the case with theories that eventually come to be widely accepted as “proven science.”
https://truthout.org/articles/the-theory-of-herd-immunity/
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The Theory of “Herd Immunity”
In an epidemiological review paper titled “Herd Immunity: History, Theory, Practice,” written by Paul E. M. Fine and published in 1993, the author notes that the first “published use” of the term herd immunity “appears to have been” in a paper titled “The spread of bacterial infection: the problem of herd immunity,” written by W. W. C. Topley and G. S. Wilson and published in 1923. From Fine’s paper, it seems that the theory of herd immunity was originally developed based on some observations with mice and some “simple mathematical formulations,” but the paper is unclear about whether the theory was ever validated through some of sort scientific peer review process – as is commonly the case with theories that eventually come to be widely accepted as “proven science.”
https://truthout.org/articles/the-theory-of-herd-immunity/
I know nothing in science is absolute. That's the first thing you are taught in General Bio 101. Oh, how time flies!
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The nuttiest conspiracy theory ever. Published on Youtube in September 20,2019.
This was pre-pandemic.
I like this broad.
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Former Pfizer VP: ‘Your government is lying to you in a way that could lead to your death.’
April 7, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — Dr. Michael Yeadon, Pfizer's former Vice President and Chief Scientist for Allergy & Respiratory who spent 32 years in the industry leading new medicines research and retired from the pharmaceutical giant with “the most senior research position” in his field
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death
There is “no possibility” current variants of COVID-19 will escape immunity. It is “just a lie.”
Yet, governments around the world are repeating this lie, indicating that we are witnessing not just “convergent opportunism,” but a “conspiracy.” Meanwhile media outlets and Big Tech platforms are committed to the same propaganda and the censorship of the truth.
Pharmaceutical companies have already begun to develop unneeded “top-up” (“booster”) vaccines for the “variants.” The companies are planning to manufacture billions of vials, in addition to the current experimental COVID-19 “vaccine” campaign.
Regulatory agencies like the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the European Medicines Agency, have announced that since these “top-up” vaccines will be so similar to the prior injections which were approved for emergency use authorization, drug companies will not be required to “perform any clinical safety studies.”
Thus, this virtually means that design and implementation of repeated and coerced mRNA vaccines “go from the computer screen of a pharmaceutical company into the arms of hundreds of millions of people, [injecting] some superfluous genetic sequence for which there is absolutely no need or justification.”
“And if you wanted to introduce a characteristic which could be harmful and could even be lethal, and you can even tune it to say ‘let’s put in it some gene that will cause liver injury over a nine-month period,’ or, cause your kidneys to fail but not until you encounter this kind of organism [that would be quite possible]. Biotechnology provides you with limitless ways, frankly, to injure or kill billions of people.
Why are they doing this? Since no benign reason is apparent, the use of vaccine passports along with a “banking reset” could issue in a totalitarianism unlike the world has ever seen. Recalling the evil of Stalin, Mao, and Hitler, “mass depopulation” remains a logical outcome.
The fact that this at least could be true means everyone must “fight like crazy to make sure that system never forms.”
“I think the end game is going to be, ‘everyone receives a vaccine’… Everyone on the planet is going to find themselves persuaded, cajoled, not quite mandated, hemmed-in to take a jab.
“When they do that every single individual on the planet will have a name, or unique digital ID and a health status flag which will be ‘vaccinated,’ or not … and whoever possesses that, sort of single database, operable centrally, applicable everywhere to control, to provide as it were, a privilege, you can either cross this particular threshold or conduct this particular transaction or not depending on [what] the controllers of that one human population database decide. And I think that’s what this is all about because once you’ve got that, we become playthings and the world can be as the controllers of that database want it.
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Former Pfizer VP: ‘Your government is lying to you in a way that could lead to your death.’
April 7, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — Dr. Michael Yeadon, Pfizer's former Vice President and Chief Scientist for Allergy & Respiratory who spent 32 years in the industry leading new medicines research and retired from the pharmaceutical giant with “the most senior research position” in his field
“When they do that every single individual on the planet will have a name, or unique digital ID and a health status flag which will be ‘vaccinated,’ or not … and whoever possesses that, sort of single database, operable centrally, applicable everywhere to control, to provide as it were, a privilege, you can either cross this particular threshold or conduct this particular transaction or not depending on [what] the controllers of that one human population database decide. And I think that’s what this is all about because once you’ve got that, we become playthings and the world can be as the controllers of that database want it.
Lucky I got my advanced database building and management qualification then - future's looking good for Taffin 8)
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Mike Yeadon was never the chief science officer at Pfizer. That job has been held by a man named Mikael Dolsten since 2010. Yeadon did work for Pfizer. He was vice president and chief scientific officer for Pfizer’s United Kingdom-based allergy and respiratory unit until that unit shut down in 2011.
The division had nothing to do with vaccines or infectious diseases. It was focused on developing drugs to treat asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
Yeadon has gone from quiet scientist to hero of the anti-vaccine movement.
https://www.heraldbulletin.com/opinion/kelly-hawes-column-sorting-the-crazies-from-the-experts/article_995440d2-9e46-11eb-8aea-7b58d9367019.html
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Mike Yeadon was never the chief science officer at Pfizer. That job has been held by a man named Mikael Dolsten since 2010. Yeadon did work for Pfizer. He was vice president and chief scientific officer for Pfizer’s United Kingdom-based allergy and respiratory unit until that unit shut down in 2011.
The division had nothing to do with vaccines or infectious diseases. It was focused on developing drugs to treat asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
Yeadon has gone from quiet scientist to hero of the anti-vaccine movement.
https://www.heraldbulletin.com/opinion/kelly-hawes-column-sorting-the-crazies-from-the-experts/article_995440d2-9e46-11eb-8aea-7b58d9367019.html
You trust your sources over the good Doctor’s warning?
Interesting
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Mike Yeadon was never the chief science officer at Pfizer. He was vice president and chief scientific officer for Pfizer’s United Kingdom-based allergy and respiratory unit
https://www.heraldbulletin.com/opinion/kelly-hawes-column-sorting-the-crazies-from-the-experts/article_995440d2-9e46-11eb-8aea-7b58d9367019.html
huh, look at that.
tell me... have your offspring been 'inoculated' as well?
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You trust your sources over the good Doctor’s warning?
Interesting
Don't forget, the good doctor that admittedly lied about masks as well.
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Mike Yeadon was never the chief science officer at Pfizer. That job has been held by a man named Mikael Dolsten since 2010. Yeadon did work for Pfizer. He was vice president and chief scientific officer for Pfizer’s United Kingdom-based allergy and respiratory unit until that unit shut down in 2011.
The division had nothing to do with vaccines or infectious diseases. It was focused on developing drugs to treat asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
Yeadon has gone from quiet scientist to hero of the anti-vaccine movement.
https://www.heraldbulletin.com/opinion/kelly-hawes-column-sorting-the-crazies-from-the-experts/article_995440d2-9e46-11eb-8aea-7b58d9367019.html
there are a lot of people working very hard to try and discredit him..
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there are a lot of people working very hard to try and discredit him..
Anyone who steps out of line is quickly smacked down. Remember the woman from the WHO who said that asymptomatic transmission was very rare? Within like two days she walked back the comment.
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A few facts about Colleen Huber
Colleen Huber, is not a medical doctor, is the “medical director” and owner of the NatureWorksBest Medical Clinic in Arizona, which offers the following all-natural, unproven-or-disproven therapies to cancer patients: baking soda, vitamin C, and a sugar-free diet.
Huber is the president of the Naturopathic Cancer Society.
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/quackery/naturopath-sues-whistleblower-denouncing-quack-treatments
'Naturopath (Colleen Huber) Sues Twitter After It Bans Her Account For Spreading Medical Misinformation'
Colleen Huber claims all the animals used in the COVID tests died.
No, there is no evidence all the animals from the vaccine trials died from the vaccine months later.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/the-animals-in-the-vaccine-trials-did-not-die-from-the-vaccine/65-94f65a53-efc0-44ba-9944-2dc6ca51af03
'The trials did not skip animal studies. In the quest for expediency, studies performed on mice and macaque monkeys were run concurrently (that is, at the same time) to the Phase 1 human clinical trials. The animals developed high neutralizing antibody titers, and none of the animals died.'
https://icd10monitor.com/setting-the-record-straight-on-covid-19-vaccines/
Colleen Huber, NMD, February 21, 2021, updated March 23, 2021
https://www.primarydoctor.org/covidvaccine
Most of the links below are from medical journals, the FDA, CDC, and other entities that generally support vaccination, yet the information in this article shows how EXTREMELY RISKY the COVID-19 vaccines are.
Is the COVID vaccine experimental? Pfizer and Moderna make the COVID-19 vaccines in the US. The FDA granted “emergency use authorization” for these vaccines (herein “COVID injections,” because they are unlike conventional vaccines). Emergency use authorization is required by law to be made only if there are no effective treatments for COVID-19.
But are there effective COVID-19 treatments? 100s of studies done around the world have established, and repeatedly confirmed, fast, effective, well-tolerated treatments for COVID-19 that are in widespread use. I briefly summarize them here.
General risk vs benefit An emergency experimental vaccine cannot be assumed to be safer than a virus with a very high survival rate, such as COVID-19. The average survival rate for NO COVID treatment at all is 99.74%, and we have very successful treatments available, which should easily achieve universal survivability from COVID, if widely available. Where does 99.74% survival come from? Dr. John Ioannidis is the most widely cited scientist in the world. His estimate in June 2020 of a 0.26% infection fatality rate is now confirmed around the world. 100% - 0.26% = 99.74% average survival rate.
Does the COVID injection work? The COVID injection is not even known to stop the spread of COVID. Dr. Larry Corey, who oversees National Institutes of Health COVID-19 vaccine trials said on 11/20/20: “The studies aren’t designed to assess transmission. They don’t ask that question, and there’s really no information on this at this point in time.” https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/941388.
The FDA confirms that the 1st vaccine dose correlates with increased COVID-19 infections. "Suspected COVID-19 cases that occurred within 7 days after any vaccination were 409 in the vaccine group vs 287 in the placebo group." This data comes from Pfizer itself. See p 42 of https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download
What happened to the animals in the studies? This technology has been tried on animals, and in the animal studies done, all the animals died, not immediately from the injection, but months later, from other immune disorders, sepsis and/or cardiac failure.There has never been a long-term successful animal study using this technology. No experimental coronavirus vaccine has succeeded in animal studies. In this study, coronavirus vaccine caused liver inflammation in test animals.
Specific risks of COVID injections, in roughly chronological order of side-effect manifestation:
Polyethylene glycol (PEG) is one of the ingredients. This has been correlated with anaphylactic shock. So the CDC is now recommending intubation kits at vaccination sites.
Cationic lipid coating of mRNA is known for many years to be toxic, because these (+) charged fats interact with the (–) charges on our amino acids, our cell membranes and the phosphates of our DNA. Cationic lipids are attracted to and are destructive toward:
Lungs ,
Mitochondria,
red blood cells,
white blood cells,
Liver,
Immune and nervous systems function (This is the likely cause of the Bell’s Palsy and tremors that are seen in vaccine victims.)
mRNA: Unlike a traditional vaccine, of injected, inactivated virus intended to stimulate antibody response, the COVID injection on the other hand is completely different in this respect. It uses messenger RNA (mRNA), which is a blueprint for your cells to create COVID-like (spike) proteins. Then your cells begin to make these COVID-like proteins. However, those proteins, in turn, stimulate your body to make antibodies against them. So now your body has been turned into a munitions factory for both sides of a war: The bad guys (COVID-like spike proteins) and the good guys (the antibodies fighting against them). However, before you pledge allegiance to the good guys, as you will see below, the good guys can be more lethal to the vaccinated person.
History of mRNA injections: This technology had disastrous results in dengue fever vaccines in the past. Dengue vaccine is a mRNA vaccine. When this was used in children in the Philippines, many vaccinated children had far worse outcomes than unvaccinated children when they were later exposed to dengue, and many died. Prosecution for homicide resulted. However, this had previously been known to happen with ferrets and with cats. In all cases, the vaccinated animal or human became more vulnerable to worse disease when confronted with it. It is expected that the relatively mild COVID-19 illness, with a survival rate of 99.74%, may reduce to a much lower survival rate and become a truly lethal disease in vaccinated people when they later become infected with it. There are no peer-reviewed published human trials of mRNA vaccines at all, and no mRNA vaccine has ever been FDA approved. That’s how new the technology is.
mRNA can affect DNA. One of the most worrisome risks with a mRNA vaccine is what can happen with reverse transcriptase. This is an enzyme in every cell, and it can theoretically lead to the mRNA creating changes in the cells’ DNA, a process known as viral retro-integration. Although this possibility had been thought unlikely, MIT and Harvard scientists found it happened here. If some of the 30 trillion or so cells in your body become permanent COVID factories, what is the long-term impact on your health, and would you want that outcome?
Antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) problem: Prior attempts to create a coronavirus vaccine killed all the test animals, after they were later infected with wild virus. Here’s what happened: mRNA instructed the mammals’ cells to produce the spike proteins of the coronavirus. Then, later, when the animals confronted the wild virus, the intense build-up of antibodies had been stockpiled, and their sudden and overwhelming release killed the test animal. These risks have been documented in Nature, Science and Journal of Infectious Diseases. Here’s a study from Nature on that.
ADE mechanism: ADE is a form of pathogenic priming, meaning the vaccine can result in a more severe disease, which has been seen in prior attempts at making coronavirus vaccines. The antibodies made can be neutralizing (which inactivate a virus, and that’s good), but antibodies are a problem when they are non-neutralizing, because then these antibodies carry active viruses directly to macrophages, which then become infected. This is how ADE happens.
This antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) leads to:
increased viral replication (more viruses to make you sick); and more severe disease
ADE result: These macrophages tend to go to the lungs and fill the lungs, causing overwhelming inflammation and airway obstruction (as found later on autopsy). However, the augmented antibodies also attack similar-looking proteins on internal organs, resulting in cytokine storm and death or auto-immune disease and organ failure. “Cats that showed high titers following vaccination succumbed at later timepoints to fatal disease.”
What about miscarriages, and why have men been advised to freeze their sperm prior to getting the injection? Both men and women are at risk for possibly permanent infertility, because the spike protein of a coronavirus “looks” to the immune system similar to Syncytin-1, an essential protein in the placenta. This stimulates antibodies to fight the placenta, and possibly sperm. Mid-term miscarriages, which are normally very rare, have occurred in women who have been vaccinated for COVID. SARS-CoV-2 viral particles have been found to linger in the testicles of men after recovery from infection.
Why are COVID vaccinees MORE likely to spread COVID than the unvaccinated? Virologist Geert Vanden Bossche PhD, who worked for the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, recently warned the World Health Organization (WHO) that "We are currently turning vaccinees into carriers shedding infectious variants."
Why is it more dangerous to vaccinate against COVID-19 than other viruses? Because COVID-19 virus uses the ACE-2 receptor to get into your endothelial cells, including those lining the blood vessels. This creates an inflammatory reaction that the great majority (99.74%) have survived even without treatment, and even more who used known, effective treatments. (See page 1) So if you have been exposed to the virus, and then get vaccinated, it is almost certain that the vaccine will cause new inflammation and damage to endothelial cells lining your blood vessels, and we have seen short-term abnormal blood clotting in people who have gotten the vaccine. But the more likely problem is launching new disease in the blood vessels. Dr. H Noorchashm MD, PhD says, “. . . the vaccine is almost certain to do damage to the vascular endothelium.” He explains here.
Israel is at this writing the most heavily COVID-vaccinated country in the world. The findings of infectious disease experts are reported here, in which they determined, from the Israeli data, that the COVID injection causes:
" . . .mortality hundreds of times greater in young people compared to mortality from coronavirus without the vaccine, and dozens of times more in the elderly . . .”
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A few facts about Colleen Huber
Colleen Huber, is not a medical doctor, is the “medical director” and owner of the NatureWorksBest Medical Clinic in Arizona, which offers the following all-natural, unproven-or-disproven therapies to cancer patients: baking soda, vitamin C, and a sugar-free diet.
Huber is the president of the Naturopathic Cancer Society.
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/quackery/naturopath-sues-whistleblower-denouncing-quack-treatments
Naturopath Sues Twitter After It Bans Her Account For Spreading Medical Misinformation
Only Fauci has all the answers! Fuck off Tard!
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I do
my brothers in laws and their adult children (all in Texas) participated in the Pfizer trials
i see brain-dead'ism runs deep in the strawvag family
experimental fools
must be braindead dems too
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I do
my brothers in laws and their adult children (all in Texas) participated in the Pfizer trials
lolillooll FOOLS!
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A few facts about Colleen Huber
Colleen Huber, is not a medical doctor
isn't it about time for another booster?
safe and effective.
'Colleen Huber, NMD (Naturopathic Medical Doctor), physician and expert witness in vaccine injury court cases'
https://www.primarydoctor.org/covidvaccine
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A few facts about …
A couple facts about you …
You’re retarded
You are a phaggot
HTH
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A couple facts about you …
You’re retarded
You are a phaggot
HTH
primate the dink-dabbler is pretty much wrong about everything hes ever done or posted
sucks dinks while his wife is dying in bed
celebrated with a ball-bag banging off his beard
this clown antics will be on the www forever for his family to stumble upon
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A couple facts about you …
You’re retarded
You are a phaggot
HTH
Guys a creep
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a sensible rabbi?
The following list was created by the Israeli rabbi Chananya Weissman.
31 Reasons Why I Won’t Take the Vaccine
1. It’s not a vaccine. A vaccine by definition provides immunity to a disease. This does not provide immunity to anything. In a best-case scenario, it merely reduces the chance of getting a severe case of a virus if one catches it. Hence, it is a medical treatment, not a vaccine. I do not want to take a medical treatment for an illness I do not have.
2. The drug companies, politicians, medical establishment, and media have joined forces to universally refer to this as a vaccine when it is not one, with the intention of manipulating people into feeling safer about undergoing a medical treatment. Because they are being deceitful, I do not trust them, and want nothing to do with their medical treatment.
3. The presumed benefits of this medical treatment are minimal and would not last long in any case. The establishment acknowledges this, and is already talking about additional shots and ever-increasing numbers of new “vaccines” that would be required on a regular basis. I refuse to turn myself into a chronic patient who receives injections of new pharmaceutical products on a regular basis simply to reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus that these injections do not even prevent.
4. I can reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus by strengthening my immune system naturally. In the event I catch a virus, there are vitamins and well-established drugs that have had wonderful results in warding off the illness, without the risks and unknowns of this medical treatment.
5. The establishment insists that this medical treatment is safe. They cannot possibly know this because the long-term effects are entirely unknown, and will not be known for many years. They may speculate that it is safe, but it is disingenuous for them to make such a claim that cannot possibly be known. Because they are being disingenuous, I do not trust them, and I want no part of their treatment.
6. The drug companies have zero liability if anything goes wrong, and cannot be sued. Same for the politicians who are pushing this treatment. I will not inject myself with a new, experimental medical device when the people behind it accept no liability or responsibility if something goes wrong. I will not risk my health and my life when they refuse to risk anything.
7. Israel’s Prime Minister has openly admitted that the Israeli people are the world’s laboratory for this experimental treatment. I am not interested in being a guinea pig or donating my body to science.
8. Israel agreed to share medical data of its citizens with a foreign drug company as a fundamental part of their agreement to receive this treatment. I never consented for my personal medical data to be shared with any such entity, nor was I even asked. I will not contribute to this sleazy enterprise.
9. The executives and board members at Pfizer are on record that they have not taken their own treatment, despite all the fanfare and assurances. They are claiming that they would consider it unfair to “cut the line”. This is a preposterous excuse, and it takes an unbelievable amount of chutzpah to even say such a thing. Such a “line” is a figment of their own imagination; if they hogged a couple of injections for themselves no one would cry foul. In addition, billionaires with private jets and private islands are not known for waiting in line until hundreds of millions of peasants all over the world go first to receive anything these billionaires want for themselves.
10. The establishment media have accepted this preposterous excuse without question or concern. Moreover, they laud Pfizer’s executives for their supposed self-sacrifice in not taking their own experimental treatment until we go first. Since they consider us such fools, I do not trust them, and do not want their new treatment. They can have my place in line. I’ll go to the very back of the line.
11. Three facts that must be put together:
Bill Gates is touting these vaccines as essential to the survival of the human race.
Bill Gates believes the world has too many people and needs to be “depopulated”.
Bill Gates, perhaps the richest man in the world, has also not been injected. No rush.
Uh, no. I’ll pass on any medical treatments he wants me to take.
12. The establishment has been entirely one-sided in celebrating this treatment. The politicians and media are urging people to take it as both a moral and civic duty. The benefits of the treatment are being greatly exaggerated, the risks are being ignored, and the unknowns are being brushed aside. Because they are being deceitful and manipulative, I will not gamble my personal wellbeing on their integrity.
13. There is an intense propaganda campaign for people to take this treatment. Politicians and celebrities are taking selfies of themselves getting injected (perhaps in some cases pretending to get injected), the media is hyping this as the coolest, smartest, most happy and fun thing to do. It is the most widespread marketing campaign in history. This is not at all appropriate for any medical treatment, let alone a brand new one, and it makes me recoil.
14. The masses are following in tow, posting pictures of themselves getting injected with a drug, feeding the mass peer pressure to do the same. There is something very alarming and sick about this, and I want no part of it. I never took drugs just because “everyone’s doing it” and it’s cool. I’m certainly not going to start now.
15. Those who raise concerns about this medical treatment are being bullied, slandered, mocked, censored, ostracized, threatened, and fired from their jobs. This includes medical professionals who have science-based concerns about the drug and caregivers who have witnessed people under their charge suffering horrible reactions and death shortly after being injected. When the establishment is purging good people who risk everything simply to raise concerns about a new medical treatment — even if they don’t outright oppose it — I will trust these brave people over the establishment every time. I cannot think of a single similar case in history when truth and morality turned out to be on the side of the establishment.
16. This is the greatest medical experiment in the history of the human race.
17. It is purposely not being portrayed as the greatest medical experiment in the history of the human race, and the fact that it is a medical experiment at all is being severely downplayed.
18. Were they up front with the masses, very few would agree to participate in such an experiment. Manipulating the masses to participate in a medical experiment under false pretenses violates the foundations of medical ethics and democratic law. I will not allow unethical people who engage in such conduct to inject me with anything.
19. The medical establishment is not informing people about any of this. They have become marketing agents for an experimental drug, serving huge companies and politicians who have made deals with them. This is a direct conflict with their mandate to concern themselves exclusively with the wellbeing of the people under their care. Since the medical establishment has become corrupted, and has become nothing more than a corporate and political tool, I do not trust the experimental drug they want so badly to inject me with.
20. We are being pressured in various ways to get injected, which violates medical ethics and the foundations of democratic society. The best way to get me not to do something is to pressure me to do it.
21. The government has sealed their protocol related to the virus and treatments for THIRTY YEARS. This is information that the public has a right to know, and the government has a responsibility to share. What are they covering up? Do they really expect me to believe that everything is kosher about all this, and that they are concerned first and foremost with my health? The last time they did this was with the Yemenite Children Affair. If you’re not familiar with it, look it up. Now they’re pulling the same shtick. They didn’t fool me the first time, and they’re definitely not fooling me now.
22. The government can share our personal medical data with foreign corporations, but they won’t share their own protocol on the matter with us? I’m out.
23. The establishment has recruited doctors, rabbis, the media, and the masses to harangue people who don’t want to get injected with a new drug. We are being called the worst sort of names. We are being told that we believe in crazy conspiracies, that we are against science, that we are selfish, that we are murderers, that we don’t care about the elderly, that it’s our fault that the government continues to impose draconian restrictions on the public. It’s all because we don’t want to get injected with an experimental treatment, no questions asked. We are even being told that we have a religious obligation to do this, and that we are grave sinners if we do not. They say that if we do not agree to get injected, we should be forced to stay inside our homes forever and be ostracized from public life.
This is horrific, disgusting, a perversion of common sense, morality, and the Torah. It makes me recoil, and only further cements my distrust of these people and my opposition to taking their experimental drug. How dare they?
24. I know of many people who got injected, but none of them studied the science in depth, carefully weighed the potential benefits against the risks, compared this option to other alternatives, was truly informed, and decided this medical treatment was the best option for them. On the contrary, they got injected because of the hype, the propaganda, the pressure, the fear, blind trust in what “the majority of experts” supposedly believed (assuming THEY all studied everything in depth and were completely objective, which is highly dubious), blind trust in what certain influential rabbis urged them to do (ditto the above), or hysterical fear that the only option was getting injected or getting seriously ill from the virus. When I see mass hysteria and cult-like behavior surrounding a medical treatment, I will be extremely suspicious and avoid it.
25. The drug companies have a long and glorious history of causing mass carnage with wonder drugs they thrust on unsuspecting populations, even after serious problems had already become known. Instead of pressing the pause button and halting the marketing of these drugs until these issues could be properly investigated, the drug companies did everything in their power to suppress the information and keep pushing their products. When companies and people have demonstrated such gross lack of concern for human life, I will not trust them when they hype a new wonder drug. This isn’t our first rodeo.
26. Indeed, the horror stories are already coming in at warp speed, but the politicians are not the least bit concerned, the medical establishment is brushing them aside as unrelated or negligible, the media is ignoring it, the drug companies are steaming ahead at full speed, and those who raise a red flag continue to be bullied, censored, and punished. Clearly my life and my wellbeing are not their primary concern. I will not be their next guinea pig in their laboratory. I will not risk being the next “coincidence”.
27. Although many people have died shortly after getting injected — including perfectly healthy young people — we are not allowed to imply that the injection had anything to do with it. Somehow this is anti-science and will cause more people to die. I believe that denying any possible link, abusing people who speculate that there might be a link, and demonstrating not the slightest curiosity to even explore if there might be a link is what is anti-science and could very well cause more people to die. These same people believe I am obligated to get injected as well. No freaking thanks.
28. I am repulsed by the religious, cult-like worship of a pharmaceutical product, and will not participate in this ritual.
29. My “healthcare” provider keeps badgering me to get injected, yet they have provided me no information on this treatment or any possible alternatives. Everything I know I learned from others outside the establishment. Informed consent has become conformed consent. I decline.
30. I see all the lies, corruption, propaganda, manipulation, censorship, bullying, violation of medical ethics, lack of integrity in the scientific process, suppression of inconvenient adverse reactions, dismissal of legitimate concerns, hysteria, cult-like behavior, ignorance, closed-mindedness, fear, medical and political tyranny, concealment of protocols, lack of true concern for human life, lack of respect for basic human rights and freedoms, perversion of the Torah and common sense, demonization of good people, the greatest medical experiment of all time being conducted by greedy, untrustworthy, godless people, the lack of liability for those who demand I risk everything… I see all this and I have decided they can all have my place in line. I will put my trust in God. I will use the mind He blessed me with and trust my natural instincts. Which leads to the final reason which sums up why I will not get “vaccinated.”
31. The whole thing stinks.
Any Pro MRNA T.E.Vaccine Proponents want to Refute what
Zillotch
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What other vaccine in history doesn't do it's job and requires multiple jabs in such a short space of time?
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Mass graves!!! Hazmat Brah's everywhere!! ::)
Imagine falling for that fake nonsense??? ::)
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Mass graves!!! Hazmat Brah's everywhere!! ::)
Imagine falling for that fake nonsense??? ::)
So Many Did Fall for that -
Yet Not One of Them On Here will address it .
Nope all Claim not to have seen / known about them things
Yet They Can Find & post up anything else to do with the Scam
That they think backs them up.
Of Course they Know about those things & see Them Only if They
Admit to it There Whole World collapses .
Show's How fcked up in the Minds They truly are.
I can & Frequently do State That I may Be Wrong about These T.E.Vaccines,
They Never Ever have The Balls to Post that they May of made a Mistake ::)
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What other vaccine in history doesn't do it's job and requires multiple jabs in such a short space of time?
Here are a few that require multiple 'jabs' or doses and variable time span between them.
Shingrix the vaccine for shingles is typically given in two doses usually 2-6 months apart or minimally 1 month apart. I could not find information as to how long the vaccine lasts or getting 'boosters' such as with COVID and the flu. Many vaccines require multiple doses.
Hepatitis B is three shots. There are several Hep B vaccines available. The time between vaccines is 1 month for the second and 6 months for the third one.
DTaP is five shots or every 10 years.
Polio is four shots for the primary sequence. The CDC recommends that all children get four doses of IPV: one at two months old, one at four months old, one at six through 18 months old, and a final shot at four through six years old. Additional Polio Booster shots are not unheard of. There recently was a polio case in New York. Polio may have been circulating widely for a year and was present in New York’s wastewater as early as last April.
All of these vaccines have possible negative side effects and variable efficacies.
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All of these vaccines have possible negative side effects and variable efficacies.
One of the primary issues is that the mRNA vaccine has potential negative side effects, but that was never discussed openly or honestly in any mainstream media outlets, or in any messaging from the CDC.
This is a huge part of the distrust that was created, and it's the government's own fault.
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One of the primary issues is that the mRNA vaccine has potential negative side effects, but that was never discussed openly or honestly in any mainstream media outlets, or in any messaging from the CDC.
This is a huge part of the distrust that was created, and it's the government's own fault.
1/2 the country will never trust them again either. Of course the other 1/2 (brain-dead sheep) will jump right in for the next jab.
A fuster-cluck of a fake pandemic that will go down in history...
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The Shingrix vax is two shots as Prime stated.
It only needs the two shots and then you are good for life.
You get it after 50 years old.
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I can & Frequently do State That I may Be Wrong about These T.E.Vaccines,
They Never Ever have The Balls to Post that they May of made a Mistake ::)
So, you say you could be wrong. Big deal. There is always the possibility of being wrong about anything including COVID vaccines. Although most people have doubts because nothing is certain, but it is not a mistake until it is. There is always a calculated risk of something going amiss with everything we do.
Based on my health issues and age, took that calculated risk. So far it has not been a ‘mistake’. Yeah, I still caught the virus, but I was not ever critically ill. As of today, I have not had any negative side effects resulting from the vaccine(s). Like with everything, the future is unknown.
I believe whether to get or not to get the COVID vaccine should be a personal choice. With some exceptions, it mostly is. All choices have consequences either good, bad, or sometimes a little of each.
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So, you say you could be wrong. Big deal. There is always the possibility of being wrong about anything including COVID vaccines. Although most people have doubts because nothing is certain, but it is not a mistake until it is. There is always a calculated risk of something going amiss with everything we do.
Based on my health issues and age, took that calculated risk. So far it has not been a ‘mistake’. Yeah, I still caught the virus, but I was not ever critically ill. As of today, I have not had any negative side effects resulting from the vaccine(s). Like with everything, the future is unknown.
I believe whether to get or not to get the COVID vaccine should be a personal choice. With some exceptions, it mostly is. All choices have consequences either good, bad, or sometimes a little of each.
Apart from not being able to answer questions properly and diverting the topic instead
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The Shingrix vax is two shots as Prime stated.
It only needs the two shots and then you are good for life.
You get it after 50 years old.
The original shingles vaccine Zostavax licensed in 2006 was not as effective as Shingrix, which was FDA approved in 2017. If I am still around 11 years from now, it will be interesting to see the changes if any with the COVID vaccines.
Which is great because it is not free, even if like me, you have Medicare. Most people with part D Medicare coverage who get the vaccines at a pharmacy pay $50.
I do not recall ever having chicken pox which is said to make folks more susceptible to the virus, I did get shingles are few years ago. I was not fun! Unfortunately, having the virus does not make us immune to getting it again, hence I got the vaccine.
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The original shingles vaccine Zostavax licensed in 2006 was not as effective as Shingrix, which was FDA approved in 2017. If I am still around 11 years from now, it will be interesting to see the changes if any with the COVID vaccines.
Which is great because it is not free, even if like me, you have Medicare. Most people with part D Medicare coverage who get the vaccines at a pharmacy pay $50.
I do not recall ever having chicken pox which is said to make folks more susceptible to the virus, I did get shingles are few years ago. I was not fun! Unfortunately, having the virus does not make us immune to getting it again, hence I got the vaccine.
I had shingles a while back, I also had chicken pox as a kid.
Its said if you catch chicken pox again as an adult you get shingles
There was a lot of chicken pox in kids in our area at the same according to my doctor
I asked about the shingles vaccine she said dont bother with it
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Apart from not being able to answer questions properly and diverting the topic instead
There were no questions in Illuminati's post. Therefore, there was nothing to answer either properly or improperly. The topic was about having the balls to admit making a mistake about the COVID vaccines. My reply was right on topic, IMO. Show me where there was a diversion.
An explanation is not a diversion.
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I had shingles a while back, I also had chicken pox as a kid.
Its said if you catch chicken pox again as an adult you get shingles
There was a lot of chicken pox in kids in our area at the same according to my doctor
I asked about the shingles vaccine she said dont bother with it
Did she say why you shouldn't get it? Was she telling you it doesn't work? Perhaps she felt the possible adverse side effects would worth taking the risk of getting. Some of them are serious and the list in long. Fortunately, I didn't have any of them. If I remember correctly, the vaccine site was a bit sore for a day or so, but that's it.
Sometimes if you ask 10 doctors about something you will get 10 differing answers. Ah, 'the practice of medicine'.
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Did she say why you shouldn't get it? Was she telling you it doesn't work? Perhaps she felt the possible adverse side effects would worth taking the risk of getting. Some of them are pretty serious and the list in long. Fortunately, I didn't have any of them. If I remember correctly, the vaccine site was a bit sore for a day or so, but that's it.
Sometimes if you ask 10 doctors about something you will get 10 differing answers. Ah, 'the practice of medicine'.
the chances of me getting shingles again is pretty slim so its not worth having the shot
She may advise differently if I got shingles again.
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the chances of me getting shingles again is pretty slim so its not worth having the shot
She may advise differently if I got shingles again.
I sure hope it is slim. As you probably know, those buggers are absolutely no fun at all. In my case, long after the rash was gone the nerve pain continued... and if I remember right, there's nothing one can do to alleviate it.
My wife had them near her waist when she was a teenager. Her not-so-funny father told her when they meet, she would die. Yeah, he was something of a jerk!
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Apart from not being able to answer questions properly and diverting the topic instead
Exactly- does it all the time when called out - WTF did the mass psychosis do long term to their minds.
Yep Cognitive Dissonance we see it so frequently on here exibited by some.
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There were no questions in Illuminati's post. Therefore, there was nothing to answer either properly or improperly. The topic was about having the balls to admit making a mistake about the COVID vaccines. My reply was right on topic, IMO. Show me where there was a diversion.
An explanation is not a diversion.
Mistake - in that I Admit That I could be wrong about these T.E.Vaccines ,
You waffled on & on .
Have you got the Balls to say
" I ( you) could be Wrong about these T.E.Vaccines"
Simple as that nothing else added or to waffle about .................
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There's a big difference in how sure you need to be.
I didn't force anyone to do anything or ban anyone from doing anything. If I was laying mandates on other people it would be fair to require a higher degree of certainty from me. You wouldn't want to be shown to be wrong after claiming that level of certainty.
Safe and effective. 4 shots in not much more than a year and you still catch and spread the disease. That counts as "effective" these days. What counts as "safe" I wonder.
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Exactly- does it all the time when called out - WTF did the mass psychosis do long term to their minds.
Yep Cognitive Dissonance we see it so frequently on here exibited by some.
Yawn.
Worry about you own mind. It is messed up.
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Mistake - in that I Admit That I could be wrong about these T.E.Vaccines ,
You waffled on & on .
Have you got the Balls to say
" I ( you) could be Wrong about these T.E.Vaccines"
Simple as that nothing else added or to waffle about .................
Of course, I could be wrong about the possible ill effects of COVID vaccines. I considered them before I decided that for me, the risk was worth taking. All I am saying is exactly what I have always said, and that is that each of us should make the choice for ourselves. What I don't get is why you seem to have such a problem with this.
Show me when I ever told anyone, including you, that they should get the COVID vaccine.
Maybe you have me confused with Oak.
At least you don't have cognitive dissonance. There is nothing inconsistent or even the least bit surprising about the thought you put into your posts and responses on Getbig, because they are absolutely predictable.
Oh so sorry, I digressed, but I did not waffle. So, beat me with a wet noodle.
My solitary gonad is doing just fine, thanks for your concern. It is precious, you know.
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Safe and effective. 4 shots in not much more than a year and you still catch and spread the disease. That counts as "effective" these days. What counts as "safe" I wonder.
Great quote above by Tapeworm ^^^
How many deaths, miscarries, severe problems are considered "safe"??
A total cash-grab and the biggest mishandling in history for a minor SARS virus...
When Fauci was killing gyas with the poison AIDS vaccine (or whatever they labeled it) it was pulled after the normal number of deaths that gets a drug pulled from market.
That was ignored for RONA, and still pushed on people after being known to cause severe heal issues and deaths, and a very large number.
Total buffoonery...
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Great quote above by Tapeworm ^^^
Pretty sure I stole it from Brett Weinstein. ;D
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New record, passed the 30K mark...
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Yawn.
Worry about you own mind. It is messed up.
Is it - well if you are comparing it yours then yes it is Messed up
And I'm very pleased about it.
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Of course, I could be wrong about the possible ill effects of COVID vaccines. I considered them before I decided that for me, the risk was worth taking. All I am saying is exactly what I have always said, and that is that each of us should make the choice for ourselves. What I don't get is why you seem to have such a problem with this.
Show me when I ever told anyone, including you, that they should get the COVID vaccine.
Maybe you have me confused with Oak.
At least you don't have cognitive dissonance. There is nothing inconsistent or even the least bit surprising about the thought you put into your posts and responses on Getbig, because they are absolutely predictable.
Oh so sorry, I digressed, but I did not waffle. So, beat me with a wet noodle.
My solitary gonad is doing just fine, thanks for your concern. It is precious, you know.
" I could be Wrong about these T.E.Vaccines"
Was all that was Necessary clearly beyond your limited Capability
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" I could be Wrong about these T.E.Vaccines"
Was all that was Necessary clearly beyond your limited Capability
What makes you think you have the right to tell me what to post and how to post it? News flash, I don't give a rat's ass what you think I should or should not do.
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What makes you think you have the right to tell me what to post and how to post it? News flash, I don't give a rat's ass what you think I should or should not do.
Ironic, because here is you doing the same exact thing a few days ago:
Do yourself a favor and stop making an issue out of COVID with your self-imposed negativity. Frankly, your 'poor Matty' routine has gotten old, tired and boring.
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The result:
Over ONE MILLION Americans dead from COVID.
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The result:
Over ONE MILLION Americans dead from COVID.
🙁
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The result:
Over ONE MILLION Americans dead from COVID.
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Replaced by two million illegal immigrants. GO EAT SHIT, C UNT!
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Replaced by two million illegal immigrants. GO EAT SHIT, C UNT!
X2
Excellent Post 👍🏻
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What makes you think you have the right to tell me what to post and how to post it? News flash, I don't give a rat's ass what you think I should or should not do.
Because I am superior to You
My Mind Functions a lot more normally than yours
I'm able to be Rational & Answer questions without the Round the bushes / Not specifically answering approach you have
You're like a Hungry Fish & Swallow The Bait , Hook , Line & Sinker every Time 🤣😂🤣
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Ironic, because here is you doing the same exact thing a few days ago:
Ha ha ha 🤣😂🤣 Poor Ole Prime owning himself 😆👍🏻
Carry on Prime.
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The result:
Over ONE MILLION Americans dead from COVID Vaccine.
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Fixed ^^
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The result:
Over ONE MILLION Americans dead from COVID.
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Lol.
680,000 had 6+ underlying diseases with an average age of 84.
Only 66,000 Americans died directly from Covid - once again, with an average age of 84.
That's sad, to be sure. But absolutely zero threat to anyone without physical disease.
Even an 80-year-old person with no health conditions has a roughly 98.5% chance of surviving Covid.
OAK - did you ever stop and wonder why you literally zero people you know died of Covid? Are you seriously this dense?
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Lol.
Are you seriously this dense?
Hopefully just trolling.
I cant picture any adult being this breain-dead...
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Hopefully just trolling.
I cant picture any adult being this brain-dead...
There are a Few on Here definitely that brain dead
him Included
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There are a Few on Here definitely that brain dead
him Included
I guess youre right. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and they're just playing around.
But the brainless libz are everywhere.
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FFS just look at that demented woman !!
She's had the Virus & yet goes for a 4th shot WTF ::)
Just how dysfunctional is her Brain ??
And she got a Ridiculous useless Face Nappy on .
100% She is The female equivalent to J.oak
and These Moron's are allowed to Vote & drive car's etc Even have Children
is it any wonder There's so much lunacy in the world.
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FFS just look at that demented woman !!
She's had the Virus & yet goes for a 4th shot WTF ::)
Just how dysfunctional is her Brain ??
And she got a Ridiculous useless Face Nappy on .
100% She is The female equivalent to J.oak
and These Moron's are allowed to Vote & drive car's etc Even have Children
is it any wonder There's so much lunacy in the world.
At this point, I’d estimate about 80% of the Covidiots still buying into the scam are women.
If you go back to threads started at the beginning of the scam, essentially everyone who bought into it haven’t been seen and those of us who nailed it are still here.
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At this point, I’d estimate about 80% of the Covidiots still buying into the scam are women.
If you go back to threads started at the beginning of the scam, essentially everyone who bought into it haven’t been seen and those of us who nailed it are still here.
Yes I see mainly women still wearing Face Nappies
There's 6 to 8 left on this board still convinced of the scam
& Shit scared of their shadows & posting Pro T.E.Vaccine Rubbish
The Mental Dysfunction in them is Huge. ;D
Is best just to Laugh at & Ridicule Them - They are Like boomerangs & come back for More.
:D ;D ;D :D ;D
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Ironic, because here is you doing the same exact thing a few days ago:
Touché
It was one of those 'do as I say, not as I do' situations. ;)
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Because I am superior to You
My Mind Functions a lot more normally than yours
I'm able to be Rational & Answer questions without the Round the bushes / Not specifically answering approach you have
You're like a Hungry Fish & Swallow The Bait , Hook , Line & Sinker every Time 🤣😂🤣
Whatever you say. ::)
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At this point, I’d estimate about 80% of the Covidiots still buying into the scam are women.
If you go back to threads started at the beginning of the scam, essentially everyone who bought into it haven’t been seen and those of us who nailed it are still here.
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Who is stuck paying these costs?
The vaccinated of course.
Your body your choice?
More like your STUPIDITY my wallet.
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Who is stuck paying these costs?
The vaccinated of course.
Your body your choice?
More like your STUPIDITY my wallet.
🙁
so do obese people, how do you feel pasying for those?
In fact, if everyone had been vaccinated do you think you would have been better off financially?
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Who is stuck paying these costs?
The vaccinated of course.
Your body your choice?
More like your STUPIDITY my wallet.
🙁
Good one Oak. ;D
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Good one Oak. ;D
Thank you!
;)
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It is as simple as going to entangled magazine or Anthonypatch.com since EARLY 2020 he has reviewed papers/studies, peer reviewed from Pfizer and Moderna. Most recently he has covered 3 smoking gun papers written as recently as Feb 2022. People are being intellectually lazy not to read this stuff. This is not, never was a vaccine, in the end you will see its all about bringing in the digital ID/currency. It definitely separated and showed those with critical thinking/common sense vs the indoctrinated.
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Whatever you say. ::)
Thanks- it is Good you Agree. 😊👍🏻
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woooooooshhhhhhh
https://twitter.com/MiamiDolphins/status/1563686611291865091
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Who is stuck paying these costs?
The vaccinated of course.
Your body your choice?
More like your STUPIDITY my wallet.
🙁
Are you talking about 2 nasal swags per week to check for positive status or the people healthy people hustling the system for theri 2 paid weeks off for a + test with fake symptoms?
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Are you talking about 2 nasal swags per week to check for positive status or the people healthy people hustling the system for theri 2 paid weeks off for a + test with fake symptoms?
You still see the “Free” Covid Testing tents in NYC.
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Are you talking about 2 nasal swags per week to check for positive status or the people healthy people hustling the system for theri 2 paid weeks off for a + test with fake symptoms?
No idiots like this guy.
They refuse to get vaccinated because they’re all about “freedom”.
But when they get sick with COVID I’m FORCED to pay their multimillion dollar hospital bill.
Where’s my freedom?
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https://www.bitchute.com/video/tE6O7YBipWoV/
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No idiots like this guy.
They refuse to get vaccinated because they’re all about “freedom”.
But when they get sick with COVID I’m FORCED to pay their multimillion dollar hospital bill.
Where’s my freedom?
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I wasnt aware you had millions to spare
Dont you think that guy has paid enough into the system to be able to get treated or should everyone be refused treatment because they dont agree with you?
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I wasnt aware you had millions to spare
Dont you think that guy has paid enough into the system to be able to get treated or should everyone be refused treatment because they dont agree with you?
Wow.
Didn’t realize you were a socialist.
Figures.
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Wow.
Didn’t realize you were a socialist.
Figures.
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Wow didnt realise you couldnt answer questions
Sorry, of course I did... ;)
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Wow didnt realise you couldnt answer questions
Sorry, of course I did... ;)
I see that you aren't denying that you're a socialist.
That's interesting.
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Wow didnt realise you couldnt answer questions
Sorry, of course I did... ;)
Are you asking me if antivaxxers should be denied COVID treatment?
My answer is YES.
:)
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Are you asking me if antivaxxers should be denied COVID treatment?
My answer is YES.
:)
If you are asking me that people who took an experimental vaccine without insisting on full disclosure of the possible consequences receiving any medical treatment?
My answer is YES
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If you are asking me that people who took an experimental vaccine without insisting on full disclosure of the possible consequences receiving any medical treatment?
My answer is YES
No.
I didn’t ask you that.
I see you still won’t answer my question though.
Big surprise.
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Are you asking me if antivaxxers should be denied COVID treatment?
My answer is YES.
:)
What treatment do we need for your pussy covid virus anyways? Tissues for a runny nose? Throat sweets for a sore throat ? Maybe the odd paracetamol here and there? All those things can be bought freely if they are even needed
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What treatment do we need for your pussy covid virus anyways? Tissues for a runny nose? Throat sweets for a sore throat ? Maybe the odd paracetamol here and there? All those things can be bought freely if they are even needed
Oak is soaked with estrogen. Bet no woman respects him.
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Oak is soaked with estrogen. Bet no woman respects him.
Flamers abuse his rectum Im sure...
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a sensible rabbi?
The following list was created by the Israeli rabbi Chananya Weissman.
31 Reasons Why I Won’t Take the Vaccine
1. It’s not a vaccine. A vaccine by definition provides immunity to a disease. This does not provide immunity to anything. In a best-case scenario, it merely reduces the chance of getting a severe case of a virus if one catches it. Hence, it is a medical treatment, not a vaccine. I do not want to take a medical treatment for an illness I do not have.
2. The drug companies, politicians, medical establishment, and media have joined forces to universally refer to this as a vaccine when it is not one, with the intention of manipulating people into feeling safer about undergoing a medical treatment. Because they are being deceitful, I do not trust them, and want nothing to do with their medical treatment.
3. The presumed benefits of this medical treatment are minimal and would not last long in any case. The establishment acknowledges this, and is already talking about additional shots and ever-increasing numbers of new “vaccines” that would be required on a regular basis. I refuse to turn myself into a chronic patient who receives injections of new pharmaceutical products on a regular basis simply to reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus that these injections do not even prevent.
4. I can reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus by strengthening my immune system naturally. In the event I catch a virus, there are vitamins and well-established drugs that have had wonderful results in warding off the illness, without the risks and unknowns of this medical treatment.
5. The establishment insists that this medical treatment is safe. They cannot possibly know this because the long-term effects are entirely unknown, and will not be known for many years. They may speculate that it is safe, but it is disingenuous for them to make such a claim that cannot possibly be known. Because they are being disingenuous, I do not trust them, and I want no part of their treatment.
6. The drug companies have zero liability if anything goes wrong, and cannot be sued. Same for the politicians who are pushing this treatment. I will not inject myself with a new, experimental medical device when the people behind it accept no liability or responsibility if something goes wrong. I will not risk my health and my life when they refuse to risk anything.
7. Israel’s Prime Minister has openly admitted that the Israeli people are the world’s laboratory for this experimental treatment. I am not interested in being a guinea pig or donating my body to science.
8. Israel agreed to share medical data of its citizens with a foreign drug company as a fundamental part of their agreement to receive this treatment. I never consented for my personal medical data to be shared with any such entity, nor was I even asked. I will not contribute to this sleazy enterprise.
9. The executives and board members at Pfizer are on record that they have not taken their own treatment, despite all the fanfare and assurances. They are claiming that they would consider it unfair to “cut the line”. This is a preposterous excuse, and it takes an unbelievable amount of chutzpah to even say such a thing. Such a “line” is a figment of their own imagination; if they hogged a couple of injections for themselves no one would cry foul. In addition, billionaires with private jets and private islands are not known for waiting in line until hundreds of millions of peasants all over the world go first to receive anything these billionaires want for themselves.
10. The establishment media have accepted this preposterous excuse without question or concern. Moreover, they laud Pfizer’s executives for their supposed self-sacrifice in not taking their own experimental treatment until we go first. Since they consider us such fools, I do not trust them, and do not want their new treatment. They can have my place in line. I’ll go to the very back of the line.
11. Three facts that must be put together:
Bill Gates is touting these vaccines as essential to the survival of the human race.
Bill Gates believes the world has too many people and needs to be “depopulated”.
Bill Gates, perhaps the richest man in the world, has also not been injected. No rush.
Uh, no. I’ll pass on any medical treatments he wants me to take.
12. The establishment has been entirely one-sided in celebrating this treatment. The politicians and media are urging people to take it as both a moral and civic duty. The benefits of the treatment are being greatly exaggerated, the risks are being ignored, and the unknowns are being brushed aside. Because they are being deceitful and manipulative, I will not gamble my personal wellbeing on their integrity.
13. There is an intense propaganda campaign for people to take this treatment. Politicians and celebrities are taking selfies of themselves getting injected (perhaps in some cases pretending to get injected), the media is hyping this as the coolest, smartest, most happy and fun thing to do. It is the most widespread marketing campaign in history. This is not at all appropriate for any medical treatment, let alone a brand new one, and it makes me recoil.
14. The masses are following in tow, posting pictures of themselves getting injected with a drug, feeding the mass peer pressure to do the same. There is something very alarming and sick about this, and I want no part of it. I never took drugs just because “everyone’s doing it” and it’s cool. I’m certainly not going to start now.
15. Those who raise concerns about this medical treatment are being bullied, slandered, mocked, censored, ostracized, threatened, and fired from their jobs. This includes medical professionals who have science-based concerns about the drug and caregivers who have witnessed people under their charge suffering horrible reactions and death shortly after being injected. When the establishment is purging good people who risk everything simply to raise concerns about a new medical treatment — even if they don’t outright oppose it — I will trust these brave people over the establishment every time. I cannot think of a single similar case in history when truth and morality turned out to be on the side of the establishment.
16. This is the greatest medical experiment in the history of the human race.
17. It is purposely not being portrayed as the greatest medical experiment in the history of the human race, and the fact that it is a medical experiment at all is being severely downplayed.
18. Were they up front with the masses, very few would agree to participate in such an experiment. Manipulating the masses to participate in a medical experiment under false pretenses violates the foundations of medical ethics and democratic law. I will not allow unethical people who engage in such conduct to inject me with anything.
19. The medical establishment is not informing people about any of this. They have become marketing agents for an experimental drug, serving huge companies and politicians who have made deals with them. This is a direct conflict with their mandate to concern themselves exclusively with the wellbeing of the people under their care. Since the medical establishment has become corrupted, and has become nothing more than a corporate and political tool, I do not trust the experimental drug they want so badly to inject me with.
20. We are being pressured in various ways to get injected, which violates medical ethics and the foundations of democratic society. The best way to get me not to do something is to pressure me to do it.
21. The government has sealed their protocol related to the virus and treatments for THIRTY YEARS. This is information that the public has a right to know, and the government has a responsibility to share. What are they covering up? Do they really expect me to believe that everything is kosher about all this, and that they are concerned first and foremost with my health? The last time they did this was with the Yemenite Children Affair. If you’re not familiar with it, look it up. Now they’re pulling the same shtick. They didn’t fool me the first time, and they’re definitely not fooling me now.
22. The government can share our personal medical data with foreign corporations, but they won’t share their own protocol on the matter with us? I’m out.
23. The establishment has recruited doctors, rabbis, the media, and the masses to harangue people who don’t want to get injected with a new drug. We are being called the worst sort of names. We are being told that we believe in crazy conspiracies, that we are against science, that we are selfish, that we are murderers, that we don’t care about the elderly, that it’s our fault that the government continues to impose draconian restrictions on the public. It’s all because we don’t want to get injected with an experimental treatment, no questions asked. We are even being told that we have a religious obligation to do this, and that we are grave sinners if we do not. They say that if we do not agree to get injected, we should be forced to stay inside our homes forever and be ostracized from public life.
This is horrific, disgusting, a perversion of common sense, morality, and the Torah. It makes me recoil, and only further cements my distrust of these people and my opposition to taking their experimental drug. How dare they?
24. I know of many people who got injected, but none of them studied the science in depth, carefully weighed the potential benefits against the risks, compared this option to other alternatives, was truly informed, and decided this medical treatment was the best option for them. On the contrary, they got injected because of the hype, the propaganda, the pressure, the fear, blind trust in what “the majority of experts” supposedly believed (assuming THEY all studied everything in depth and were completely objective, which is highly dubious), blind trust in what certain influential rabbis urged them to do (ditto the above), or hysterical fear that the only option was getting injected or getting seriously ill from the virus. When I see mass hysteria and cult-like behavior surrounding a medical treatment, I will be extremely suspicious and avoid it.
25. The drug companies have a long and glorious history of causing mass carnage with wonder drugs they thrust on unsuspecting populations, even after serious problems had already become known. Instead of pressing the pause button and halting the marketing of these drugs until these issues could be properly investigated, the drug companies did everything in their power to suppress the information and keep pushing their products. When companies and people have demonstrated such gross lack of concern for human life, I will not trust them when they hype a new wonder drug. This isn’t our first rodeo.
26. Indeed, the horror stories are already coming in at warp speed, but the politicians are not the least bit concerned, the medical establishment is brushing them aside as unrelated or negligible, the media is ignoring it, the drug companies are steaming ahead at full speed, and those who raise a red flag continue to be bullied, censored, and punished. Clearly my life and my wellbeing are not their primary concern. I will not be their next guinea pig in their laboratory. I will not risk being the next “coincidence”.
27. Although many people have died shortly after getting injected — including perfectly healthy young people — we are not allowed to imply that the injection had anything to do with it. Somehow this is anti-science and will cause more people to die. I believe that denying any possible link, abusing people who speculate that there might be a link, and demonstrating not the slightest curiosity to even explore if there might be a link is what is anti-science and could very well cause more people to die. These same people believe I am obligated to get injected as well. No freaking thanks.
28. I am repulsed by the religious, cult-like worship of a pharmaceutical product, and will not participate in this ritual.
29. My “healthcare” provider keeps badgering me to get injected, yet they have provided me no information on this treatment or any possible alternatives. Everything I know I learned from others outside the establishment. Informed consent has become conformed consent. I decline.
30. I see all the lies, corruption, propaganda, manipulation, censorship, bullying, violation of medical ethics, lack of integrity in the scientific process, suppression of inconvenient adverse reactions, dismissal of legitimate concerns, hysteria, cult-like behavior, ignorance, closed-mindedness, fear, medical and political tyranny, concealment of protocols, lack of true concern for human life, lack of respect for basic human rights and freedoms, perversion of the Torah and common sense, demonization of good people, the greatest medical experiment of all time being conducted by greedy, untrustworthy, godless people, the lack of liability for those who demand I risk everything… I see all this and I have decided they can all have my place in line. I will put my trust in God. I will use the mind He blessed me with and trust my natural instincts. Which leads to the final reason which sums up why I will not get “vaccinated.”
31. The whole thing stinks.
J.oak , LurkinForBoys, PrimePedo etc Read & learn 👍🏻
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36055877/
Results: Pfizer and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines were associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest of 10.1 and 15.1 per 10,000 vaccinated over placebo baselines of 17.6 and 42.2 (95 % CI -0.4 to 20.6 and -3.6 to 33.8), respectively. Combined, the mRNA vaccines were associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest of 12.5 per 10,000 vaccinated (95 % CI 2.1 to 22.9); risk ratio 1.43 (95 % CI 1.07 to 1.92).
The Pfizer trial exhibited a 36 % higher risk of serious adverse events in the vaccine group; risk difference 18.0 per 10,000 vaccinated (95 % CI 1.2 to 34.9); risk ratio 1.36 (95 % CI 1.02 to 1.83).
The Moderna trial exhibited a 6 % higher risk of serious adverse events in the vaccine group: risk difference 7.1 per 10,000 (95 % CI -23.2 to 37.4); risk ratio 1.06 (95 % CI 0.84 to 1.33). Combined, there was a 16 % higher risk of serious adverse events in mRNA vaccine recipients: risk difference 13.2 (95 % CI -3.2 to 29.6); risk ratio 1.16 (95 % CI 0.97 to 1.39).
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“Vaccine”
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahaha!
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Imagine falling for it, LOL ::)
https://twitter.com/Lauren3veMemes/status/1609678295548792834?s=20&t=s9saSbnfO_K8x8sHX03SOQ
Gotta really be a special kind of moron, LMAO. ::)
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Fraudci resigns... He remembers to resign, but has a hard time remembering anything about COVID when being questioned. ::)
LOL
Imagine buying into what this clown tells you??
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The Implosion of the COVID Narrative – As people around the world get a chance to experience more distance from the abject hell and insanity of the Great COVID Hysteria (2020-2022), intelligent members of the human race will begin connecting the dots and realize what an absolute con it all was, and how they were all used as financial fodder for a transnational pharmaceutical drug cartel who never really gave a French toast about people’s health. When these people do wake up, they will no longer be interested in taking the phony, nondiagnostic PCR or lateral flow/antigen tests, which means no more “cases” data, and so no more pandemic. It’s that simple. Add to this the growing awareness that the experimental mRNA COVID ‘vaccine’ was neither safe nor effective as advertised. All of this combined spells bad news for the public health racket. For those who avidly pushed the fraud, or profited from it, brace yourselves. There will be a reckoning.
The Vaccine Fallout – 2022 was not a good year for Big Pharma’s golden calf – the experimental mRNA gene therapy ‘vaccine’ injection. Each week, the data for vaccine injuries and deaths continues to grow, and that trend will unfortunately continue well into 2023 and beyond. The more that governments, public health mavens and the media continue to attack so-called ‘antivaxxers’ (ie. concerned members of the public with legitimate questions) and join Big Tech in censoring the debate on vaccine safety – the more the public will grow to realize the level of fraud and corruption on display. The penny has already dropped. Now it’s just a question of when, not if, the entire Big Pharma facade crumbles to the ground. When it does, many of those involved in these crimes against humanity will have to face tribunals and legal trials – in order to answer for the all injured and deceased. As for the mainstream media, this issue will destroy whatever shred of trust the public may have still had in it. There will be a reckoning, and it’s coming starting in 2023.
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The Implosion of the COVID Narrative – As people around the world get a chance to experience more distance from the abject hell and insanity of the Great COVID Hysteria (2020-2022), intelligent members of the human race will begin connecting the dots and realize what an absolute con it all was, and how they were all used as financial fodder for a transnational pharmaceutical drug cartel who never really gave a French toast about people’s health. When these people do wake up, they will no longer be interested in taking the phony, nondiagnostic PCR or lateral flow/antigen tests, which means no more “cases” data, and so no more pandemic. It’s that simple. Add to this the growing awareness that the experimental mRNA COVID ‘vaccine’ was neither safe nor effective as advertised. All of this combined spells bad news for the public health racket. For those who avidly pushed the fraud, or profited from it, brace yourselves. There will be a reckoning.
The Vaccine Fallout – 2022 was not a good year for Big Pharma’s golden calf – the experimental mRNA gene therapy ‘vaccine’ injection. Each week, the data for vaccine injuries and deaths continues to grow, and that trend will unfortunately continue well into 2023 and beyond. The more that governments, public health mavens and the media continue to attack so-called ‘antivaxxers’ (ie. concerned members of the public with legitimate questions) and join Big Tech in censoring the debate on vaccine safety – the more the public will grow to realize the level of fraud and corruption on display. The penny has already dropped. Now it’s just a question of when, not if, the entire Big Pharma facade crumbles to the ground. When it does, many of those involved in these crimes against humanity will have to face tribunals and legal trials – in order to answer for the all injured and deceased. As for the mainstream media, this issue will destroy whatever shred of trust the public may have still had in it. There will be a reckoning, and it’s coming starting in 2023.
I think you will find if they pay 80% of peoples salary to stay at home the "pandemic" will resume instantly.
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"Meme bait" :P
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UK excess deaths are higher now than they ever were during covid and the media is silent
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Here are some numbers which should put the above stats in proper perspective (that's if you believe they are accurate).
69.1% of the world population has received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.
13.17 billion doses have been administered globally, and 3.09 million are now administered each day..
In the U.S. United States alone 229.14 million people have completed the initial protocol. 268.36 million are partially vaccinated.
The most common adverse side effects from the COVID vaccine are a headache, fatigue, and soreness at the injection site, all of which are generally mild to moderate and go away within a few days.
An aside.
It has been 5 days since I had my second COVID booster. So far, no side effects... not any... nada. In fact, everyone in the house is fully boosted and none of us had any sides from their last vaccine. Guess we are just a lucky bunch. ;)
Today, soon I will give myself the rapid test because tomorrow evening I'm having dinner at my friends' house. These tests may or may not be accurate, but it is what my friends asked of me, so I am willing to comply if it makes them feel safer. This is what friends do.
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Guess we are just a lucky bunch. ;)
Today, soon I will give myself the rapid test because tomorrow evening I'm having dinner at my friends' house. This is what friends do.
no.
every last submissive coward will reap their reward:
Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
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Today, soon I will give myself the rapid test because tomorrow evening I'm having dinner at my friends' house. These tests may or may not be accurate, but it is what my friends asked of me, so I am willing to comply if it makes them feel safer. This is what friends do.
LOL!
This has to be a joke.
Right Prime?
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LOL!
This has to be a joke.
Right Prime?
Two words are correct here, Prime and joke. SMH, still quivering over this bullshit three years later.
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Today, soon I will give myself the rapid test because tomorrow evening I'm having dinner at my friends' house. These tests may or may not be accurate, but it is what my friends asked of me, so I am willing to comply if it makes them feel safer. This is what friends do.
What the LIVING fuck.
You are an unbelievably lame excuse for a man.
I’m beginning to think your Getbig persona is a work.
It’s just not possible.
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Today, soon I will give myself the rapid test because tomorrow evening I'm having dinner at my friends' house. These tests may or may not be accurate, but it is what my friends asked of me, so I am willing to comply if it makes them feel safer. This is what friends do.
They are not your friends
I bet they get you to take your shoes off as well....
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Imagine a friend asking you to take a RONA test, LOL ::)
The West Coast is just on a whole other level of "retard"... ???
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no.
every last submissive coward will reap their reward:
Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
Save it for the pulpit. ::)
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Save it for the pulpit. ::)
He hit a nerve "pedomuscle" ? :D
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that eye roll will transform into abject terror as u die... because then, u will understand.
may God have mercy on your soul.
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LOL!
This has to be a joke.
Right Prime?
It is no joke. At first, my friend's request took me by surprise. But when I thought more about it, if it makes them feel safer, it no big deal to me. Both have a raft of comorbidities. There is a good chance should either of them get the COVID virus they would not survive it. I feel honored to be asked over to dinner because they have been housebound since the pandemic took hold.
This is about real people's fears in today's world not about the nonsense which is sometimes posted on Getbig about 'sheepies' verses antivaxxers.
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that eye roll will transform into abject terror as u die... because then, u will understand.
may God have mercy on your soul.
A steep price to pay for a little bit of fun at the old glory hole, what a shame.....
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He hit a nerve "pedomuscle" ? :D
Hardly. I have no fear of dying nor do I have any reason to fear it. Those of you who get off on talking smack about people you don't know just to make a couple of brownie points on an internet forum have more to worry about then I do.
John 8:7, viz. “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone... "
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Hardly. I have no fear of dying nor do I have any reason to fear it. Those of you who get off on talking smack about people you don't know just to make a couple of brownie points on an internet forum have more to worry about then I do.
John 8:7, viz. “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone... "
most here know more about you then they want to :-X
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most here know more about you then they want to :-X
Or think they do. Most idiots here don't know squat about me.
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Or think they do. Most idiots here don't know squat about me.
You mean there's more to you than leaving your wife to die for glory holes ,Matt's dick picks, sexting t-bomz and cleaning toilets ???
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It is no joke. At first, my friend's request took me by surprise. But when I thought more about it, if it makes them feel safer, it no big deal to me. Both have a raft of comorbidities. There is a good chance should either of them get the COVID virus they would not survive it. I feel honored to be asked over to dinner because they have been housebound since the pandemic took hold.
This is about real people's fears in today's world not about the nonsense which is sometimes posted on Getbig about 'sheepies' verses antivaxxers.
It's a perfectly reasonable request. Tell them you know an unvaccinated guy online who agrees that they can set any conditions of entry they want for their own home.
Some Paxlovid in the medicine cabinet for early treatment sounds justified.
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It is no joke. At first, my friend's request took me by surprise. But when I thought more about it, if it makes them feel safer, it no big deal to me. Both have a raft of comorbidities. There is a good chance should either of them get the COVID virus they would not survive it. I feel honored to be asked over to dinner because they have been housebound since the pandemic took hold.
This is about real people's fears in today's world not about the nonsense which is sometimes posted on Getbig about 'sheepies' verses antivaxxers.
I would wear a mask as well....I bet the place fucking stinks...
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It is no joke. At first, my friend's request took me by surprise. But when I thought more about it, if it makes them feel safer, it no big deal to me. Both have a raft of comorbidities. There is a good chance should either of them get the COVID virus they would not survive it. I feel honored to be asked over to dinner because they have been housebound since the pandemic took hold.
This is about real people's fears in today's world not about the nonsense which is sometimes posted on Getbig about 'sheepies' verses antivaxxers.
It utter nonsense they've succumbed to the 24/7 China Virus Propaganda
They're shit scared of everything now.
And Sheep like folk like you aren't helping them Snap out of it.
If They're that ill then sadly anything from a common cold could likely kill them.
You ain't helping them zero percent- Stop playing along & Tell them the Truth that they've been conned
& Frightened Shit Less.
If your the Friend you say you are - Then Help Them overcome their Fear & Brainwashing,
Not Further it.
Thats what True Friends Do.
WAKE THE FUCK UP SHEEP 🐑 LIKE FFS
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You mean there's more to you than leaving your wife to die for glory holes ,Matt's dick picks, sexting t-bomz and cleaning toilets ???
Is that what he gets up to doing.
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If you’re currently living your life any differently than you were before this “Crisis,” then you’ve been Psyoped.
Hope this helps.
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Here are some numbers which should put the above stats in proper perspective (that's if you believe they are accurate).
69.1% of the world population has received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.
13.17 billion doses have been administered globally, and 3.09 million are now administered each day..
In the U.S. United States alone 229.14 million people have completed the initial protocol. 268.36 million are partially vaccinated.
Do you believe those numbers?
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Here are some numbers which should put the above stats in proper perspective (that's if you believe they are accurate).
69.1% of the world population has received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.
13.17 billion doses have been administered globally, and 3.09 million are now administered each day..
In the U.S. United States alone 229.14 million people have completed the initial protocol. 268.36 million are partially vaccinated.
The most common adverse side effects from the COVID vaccine are a headache, fatigue, and soreness at the injection site, all of which are generally mild to moderate and go away within a few days.
An aside.
It has been 5 days since I had my second COVID booster. So far, no side effects... not any... nada. In fact, everyone in the house is fully boosted and none of us had any sides from their last vaccine. Guess we are just a lucky bunch. ;)
Today, soon I will give myself the rapid test because tomorrow evening I'm having dinner at my friends' house. These tests may or may not be accurate, but it is what my friends asked of me, so I am willing to comply if it makes them feel safer. This is what friends do.
And ? We know there's a lot of Brainwashed Frightened Sheep 🐑 Like out there.
24/7 MSM Scare Propaganda & Lies Work -> Mass Psychosis .
Don't be Proud of it - Be Fucking Alarmed by it.
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https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/01/02/sports/buffalos-damar-hamlin-collapses-receives-cpr-after-tackle-first-quarter-bills-bengals-game/
wooooooooshhhhhhh
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UK excess deaths are higher now than they ever were during covid and the media is silent
It’s the same in Australia. We had virtually no covid here until they started the rollout of these poisonous shots. Excess deaths are currently at 17% down unda. And it’s not going down.
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It’s the same in Australia. We had virtually no covid here until they started the rollout of these poisonous shots. Excess deaths are currently at 17% down unda. And it’s not going down.
I'm deciding how bad to feel for them. Are they the people who wanted me ostracized/dead? Or are they the cowards who complied because standing for what they believe was hard? I've met both kinds.
You can't put that stuff in the press. Someone who matters, like a politician, might lose their job.
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You mean there's more to you than leaving your wife to die for glory holes ,Matt's dick picks, sexting t-bomz and cleaning toilets ???
Believe what you choose. The person a few meanspirited idiots on Getbig try to make me out to be with their lies, innuendos, and defaming remarks is not who I am. For example, considering your comments in the above post, the only truth is that I trained custodians how to clean a toilet as was part of my job as a custodial supervisor.
You are an unfortunate and pathetic jerk whose only claim to fame since your opening post last November on Getbig is being a troll, and an ineffective one at that. But hey, carry on… knock yourself out.
For the record, here is the very first post you made on Getbig back in November 2022.
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I'm deciding how bad to feel for them. Are they the people who wanted me ostracized/dead? Or are they the cowards who complied because standing for what they believe was hard? I've met both kinds.
You can't put that stuff in the press. Someone who matters, like a politician, might lose their job.
Most here complied because it was too hard to stand up. They wanted their “freedoms” and what they failed to realise is that, when you give up your rights to what happens to your body, then you’ve lost your freedoms. I know people who only took these poisonous shots, to be able to sit in cafes. They were too soft….no backbone.
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First 2 years of covid in Aus there were only around 1,000 "covid deaths".
The media acted like 100's were dying a day (non stop all over the news), went on and on about covid CASES and acted like they were going on about covid DEATHS (BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE!)
and as a result, everyone (but me) thought hundreds of thousands of Australians had died and were dying around the clock.
I asked a young workmate who believed in the covid bs "how many Australians do you think have died from covid so far" and he said "Idk.. a million?"(!). I said "try 1,000 dumbass" and he wouldn't believe me.
The death toll only took off after everyone was "fully vaccinated" (hahahahaha "fully vaccinated"! You FUCKING IDIOTS! >:()
First 2 years: 1,000 deaths.
Year 3: 17,000 deaths.
The pandemic here has only started. It’s the pandemic of the vaccinated. It’s the same in New Zealand.
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Believe what you choose. The person a few meanspirited idiots on Getbig try to make me out to be with their lies, innuendos, and defaming remarks is not who I am. For example, considering your comments in the above post, the only truth is that I trained custodians how to clean a toilet as was part of my job as a custodial supervisor.
You are an unfortunate and pathetic jerk whose only claim to fame since your opening post last November on Getbig is being a troll, and an ineffective one at that. But hey, carry on… knock yourself out.
For the record, here is the very first post you made on Getbig back in November 2022.
you lying peice of shit, tbomz and Matt both admitted to all of this and so did you.....
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you lying peice of shit, tbomz and Matt both admitted to all of this and so did you.....
I’ve noticed he’s been trying to backtrack on all the cock sucking he’s done.
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you lying peice of shit, tbomz and Matt both admitted to all of this and so did you.....
I’ve noticed he’s been trying to backtrack on all the cock sucking he’s done.
The both of you are lying, and mentally ill internet trolls who have nothing better to do with your pathetically empty lives than make up shit and distort facts. Intelligent and honest Getbig folks know truth from fiction. Your accusations and comments are the latter. Knock yourselves out and prove me wrong, I dare you, you shit for brains, asshole trolls.
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The both of you are lying, and mentally ill internet trolls who have nothing better to do with your pathetically empty lives than make up shit and distort facts. Intelligent and honest Getbig folks know truth from fiction. Your accusations and comments are the latter. Knock yourselves out and prove me wrong, I dare you, you shit for brains, asshole trolls.
It comes across that you're very annoyed & triggered by what they're saying.
Fact is Matt did send you a video , he said so & you said he had
Fact is you've stated on Getbig that you've visited Glory Holes
As for TBombz & the sex texting that I can't recall anything on here
And as for leaving your wife while she was very ill - I'd like to believe that isn't true, for as much as I have my
Issues with you & your Sheep 🐑 like mentality over the China Virus & your actions.
Leaving your wife I think is not what you would do.
Oh you missed my post relating to your friends.
It utter nonsense they've succumbed to the 24/7 China Virus Propaganda
They're shit scared of everything now.
And Sheep like folk like you aren't helping them Snap out of it.
If They're that ill then sadly anything from a common cold could likely kill them.
You ain't helping them zero percent- Stop playing along & Tell them the Truth that they've been conned
& Frightened Shit Less.
If your the Friend you say you are - Then Help Them overcome their Fear & Brainwashing,
Not Further it.
Thats what True Friends Do.
WAKE THE FUCK UP SHEEP 🐑 LIKE FFS
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The both of you are lying, and mentally ill internet trolls who have nothing better to do with your pathetically empty lives than make up shit and distort facts. Intelligent and honest Getbig folks know truth from fiction. Your accusations and comments are the latter. Knock yourselves out and prove me wrong, I dare you, you shit for brains, asshole trolls.
hands down you are the biggest peice of shit to ever grace this board , worse than pillowtalk and that's saying something......
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Most idiots here don't know squat about me.
We know you use your mouth to bathe mens’ cocks.
And that you are a limp-wristed Lefty suck-ass.
That’s well enough.
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The Implosion of the COVID Narrative – As people around the world get a chance to experience more distance from the abject hell and insanity of the Great COVID Hysteria (2020-2022), intelligent members of the human race will begin connecting the dots and realize what an absolute con it all was, and how they were all used as financial fodder for a transnational pharmaceutical drug cartel who never really gave a French toast about people’s health. When these people do wake up, they will no longer be interested in taking the phony, nondiagnostic PCR or lateral flow/antigen tests, which means no more “cases” data, and so no more pandemic. It’s that simple. Add to this the growing awareness that the experimental mRNA COVID ‘vaccine’ was neither safe nor effective as advertised. All of this combined spells bad news for the public health racket. For those who avidly pushed the fraud, or profited from it, brace yourselves. There will be a reckoning.
The Vaccine Fallout – 2022 was not a good year for Big Pharma’s golden calf – the experimental mRNA gene therapy ‘vaccine’ injection. Each week, the data for vaccine injuries and deaths continues to grow, and that trend will unfortunately continue well into 2023 and beyond. The more that governments, public health mavens and the media continue to attack so-called ‘antivaxxers’ (ie. concerned members of the public with legitimate questions) and join Big Tech in censoring the debate on vaccine safety – the more the public will grow to realize the level of fraud and corruption on display. The penny has already dropped. Now it’s just a question of when, not if, the entire Big Pharma facade crumbles to the ground. When it does, many of those involved in these crimes against humanity will have to face tribunals and legal trials – in order to answer for the all injured and deceased. As for the mainstream media, this issue will destroy whatever shred of trust the public may have still had in it. There will be a reckoning, and it’s coming starting in 2023.
The Likes of Primepedo , J.oak , LurkinForBoys etc won't ever admit they were Conned & Lied to
They'll just keep repeating the MSM / Governments / CDC / WHO lies until they Die.
Sure they know they've been Conned & Acted in a Clown like manner only they've backed themselves so far
Into a corner with there Mass Psychosis fadadled brain they've not got the Back bone / wherewithal to outright
Admit it.
That's their look out as they'll constantly be the butt of all jokes & put downs on here.
Great 👍
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This is a dumb kvnt I can sure laugh at though... Good riddance Fat tard. ^^
The young kid who got hurt the other night, rooting for him to get well!
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Another celebrity pedophile being black mailed....
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Did that fatso die ?
If so probably everything to do with the Death shots & being obese