Well, this has certainly been a heated and long discussion, which is good. I think that means people care. I never can understand the name calling because of sheer disagreement.
Somebody said it best, when they said to look at the big picture although ironically they only brought up a small view of the "big picture". The big picture is certainly more than just what we do with all these babies if they were not aborted. There would be millions of babies with no fathers and more on welfare, etc. Well, that certainly is only looking at one side of it. Look at the other side of it. Statistically many of the aborted babies could have gone on done great things. How many future world leaders were killed? Was the scientist who found the cure for Cancer or Aids or the common cold killed? How many future millionaires who would have gone on to be philanthropists and given money to great causes been killed? The answer is we really do not know, just as we cannot predict any amount of overpopulation, additional kids of welfare, etc. I do know if you're going to look at one side then be sure to look at both sides. The abortions that happen are not all inner city or third world country abortions. Abortions are being done in every walk of life you can imagine.
The big picture is morals and responsibility in general. This argument can be twisted a hundred different ways, but the things that remains constant in abortion is the fact that a baby is being killed. You can narrow that down to weeks from conception, age of the fetus, etc. but a baby is still being killed. What I don't understand is how anybody pro-abortion can find fault with somebody that values life? I may disagree with you, I may plead with you that you don't have an abortion or advocate for any woman to have an abortion but to find fault in me for valuing life is beyond belief.
I also don't get those that being up science and say it's not considered life. Well, they we have to get into the debate at what age is it considered a life. That argument will lead to three potential answers. Now, before I give you those answers go and research them yourself. Very few scientists, would argue a fetus is not life. Many, many will however argue that we just don't know. So, your three answers about whether a fetus is life are: 1) yes, it is life 2) the scientific breakthroughs tell us it is probably life and most indicators tell us that and 3) we just don't have enough evidence to conclude yet.
That being said, when it comes to something as valuable and fragile as life, why would we not take caution every time we are unsure of something? Wouldn't that be the responsible thing to do? Caution should also be taken into consideration for young girls who grow up with regret after they had an abortion. The numbers of mothers you regret having had aboritions years later is staggering.
Somebody said we should keep to the issues and continue to argue Roe V. Wade. How many people even understand Roe v. Wade? Norma McCorvey (Jane Roe) in the case is now a pro-lifer! Norma McCorvey claimed her pregnancy was a result of rape and years later said that claim was false! How many times has this happened? How many girls have claimed rape in order to get an abortion and that was a false claim.
In regards to Dad's being responsible, I am all for that but in many cases the Dad is disregarded in the decision about going through with an abortion. The courts say it is the woman's right to choose which is interesting because if a man impregnates a woman he has say in whether she can or cannot kill the baby. Yet, if she has the baby, the court can mandate the father pay child support. Talk about f#cked up! And trust me, I am all about the Dad paying child support but how twisted is that whole scenario I just mentioned.
In the state of California, if you send your child to a public school and they go on a field trip, the child MUST have a permission slip signed from the parent. If that same child wants tylenol, the school has to call the parents and get permission. Both of the scenarios I agree with. BUT, if that same is 12 YEARS OLD and wants to get an abortion they CAN WITHOUT parental consent. Talk about F#cked up! I know CA had Propostion 10 on the table to change this, but I have to look in whether that passed or not.
For those of you saying, us pro-lifers are distorted and don't know all the facts and don't look at the big picture - I say the same back to you - do you?
Many say as a man I have no idea what it's like to be in that position. I guess not, I can not physically get pregnant, but I can assure you if I were a woman that I would never kill my baby under ANY circumstance though. Although, as a Dad and as a husband I can attest to having lost a baby due to miscarriage at 8 weeks and the pain that myself and my wife went through. I can also tell you as a Dad and as a husband what it's like having lost a second baby when my wife was 5 months pregnant on Christmas Day. I can speak to those things. I can speak to the fact that I have spoken with many women who had abortions and regretted it later, to the point they were in grave states of depression.
The problem goes way beyond killing a baby. We need more education and love given to these women. It kills me seeing my wife and I trying for years to have a kid and then when we finally get pregnant twice lose both babies and then hear about two 19 year old kids getting drunk at a bar and then not be responsible and having sex and getting the girl pregnant only to have the girl have that baby aborted because it's incovenient or because they are scared. Give me a break.
The whole population control thing is ridiculous. If somebody were truly for population control they could go off themselves and makes themselves a martyr for the cause. I am not for that in any way as I value life but I am not the one truly for population control.
Before you criticize me or call me names, please understand I am for life. I believe all life is a gift. I believe in responsibility and morals and I don't think that makes me such a bad human being.