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Lately I have been seeing a lot of profiles (on TV, in newspapers, etc.) about people who are either unemployed and or struggling financially. The profiles always paint the person as a victim of unfortunate circumstances. Many are living paycheck to paycheck, drawing on a meager savings account, or depending on friends or family to help them make it from month to month. Just as I start to feel sorry for them I read that the person—who may not know where their next meal is coming from—has a pet. Often it is a dog, and I find myself thinking, "why does this person have a pet if they are so hard up?" I like pets as much as the next guy, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who can afford to have a pet or doesn't have the sense to part with the animal if they are not in a position to afford one. >:(
Discuss.
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Pets don't cost much money. A pet to most white people is a best friend or child. Of course they aren't going to get rid of it because they're broke. My dog costs maybe 25 bucks a month in food. I take her to the vet once a year, which costs maybe 100 bucks for her shots. I spoil my dog with treats and just bought her a 100 dollar bed but that stuff's not needed necessarily. Table scraps are better treats anyhow. :)
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usually, the poorer a person is, the more pets they have.
people in trailers will have like 2 indoor cats, and 5 outdoor animals the feed, ranging from cats to ducks.
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I think having a pet is the only thing that can help someone make it through some tough times. I would probably feed my pets before myself or at least cut down my intake.
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Pets don't cost much money. A pet to most white people is a best friend or child. Of course they aren't going to get rid of it because they're broke. My dog costs maybe 25 bucks a month in food. I take her to the vet once a year, which costs maybe 100 bucks for her shots. I spoil my dog with treats and just bought her a 100 dollar bed but that stuff's not needed necessarily. Table scraps are better treats anyhow. :)
If you can afford it, wonderful! More power to you, but why appear in whiny articles about how broke and desperate you are if you can afford a pet? Most people—especially people who do not have pets—see them as a luxury.
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Lately I have been seeing a lot of profiles (on TV, in newspapers, etc.) about people who are either unemployed and or struggling financially. The profiles always paint the person as a victim of unfortunate circumstances. Many are living paycheck to paycheck, drawing on a meager savings account, or depending on friends or family to help them make it from month to month. Just as I start to feel sorry for them I read that the person—who may not know where their next meal is coming from—has a pet. Often it is a dog, and I find myself thinking, "why does this person have a pet if they are so hard up?" I like pets as much as the next guy, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who can afford to have a pet or doesn't have the sense to part with the animal if they are not in a position to afford one. >:(
Discuss.
You say you like pets as much as the next guy, but I doubt it. In fact, I'd bet you don't have a pet.
Many people love their dogs and/or cats as much as they would children. If one loses their job and falls on hard times, I ask you, would they give their children up for adoption?
We have two dogs, they bring such joy into our lives....plus they fill a void. My wife and I are empty nesters. Fortunately, we can afford to spoil Lucy and Danny rotten and they love it. Heck, I think they have more toys then our kids did when they were young.
I'll give you this, if one takes good care of their pets, it does cost a bit of money.
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If you can afford it, wonderful! More power to you, but why appear in whiny articles about how broke and desperate you are if you can afford a pet? Most people—especially people who do not have pets—see them as a luxury.
Most people would rather their Animal/s eat then themselves. True story. :-\ Hell, my dog has her own couch and own love seat. :) The more i think about, if i lost job, 401k, savings,..etc I would rather my dog eat then most of my family. 8) I mean, my dog has been to South Carolina, Michigan, Florida, Georgia, West Virginia, Ohio, (Fucking shit hole) and i have treated her better then most members of my family. My dog is like a child to me. ;)
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If you can afford it, wonderful! More power to you, but why appear in whiny articles about how broke and desperate you are if you can afford a pet? Most people—especially people who do not have pets—see them as a luxury.
I'll remember not to "appear in whiny articles" should I ever go broke and still have my two babies.
Personally, I think when the media does a story about someone suffering misfortune, like unemployment, many of us have a tendency to distance ourselves from them and perhaps find reasons to discount their problems, as if to say that would never be me! -Truth be told, "there but for the grace of God, go I." Like it or not, deny it or not, it is the truth.
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Lately I have been wondering what happened to me in my childhood to make me such a gigantic, unmitigated and pompous douchebag in middle age. >:(
Discuss.
Excellent question, BayGBM. I think some other getbiggers have been wondering the same thing about you.
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Lately I have been seeing a lot of profiles (on TV, in newspapers, etc.) about people who are either unemployed and or struggling financially. The profiles always paint the person as a victim of unfortunate circumstances. Many are living paycheck to paycheck, drawing on a meager savings account, or depending on friends or family to help them make it from month to month. Just as I start to feel sorry for them I read that the person—who may not know where their next meal is coming from—has a pet. Often it is a dog, and I find myself thinking, "why does this person have a pet if they are so hard up?" I like pets as much as the next guy, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who can afford to have a pet or doesn't have the sense to part with the animal if they are not in a position to afford one. >:(
Discuss.
You forgot to add "homosexual" and "cock". So it goes like this. "Unemployed, homosexual and desperate for the cock--with a pet", cant get any worse than that imo.
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usually, the poorer a person is, the more pets they have.
people in trailers will have like 2 indoor cats, and 5 outdoor animals the feed, ranging from cats to ducks.
Pet hoarders are diff. In Howard Co, MD, there was a DOCTOR who had about 200 cats---most of them were dead and sticking to the floor. The house smelled of ammonia...she drove a mid 80's Maserati Bi turbo. She was the most innocent Lil old lady....
But, yeah, people who have pets and are broke, need to get rid of them as they are a added responsibility and financial burden (read luxury). Seems said people don't want to be lonely, and are selfish---which could be the reason why they are in the financial red as it is...
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But, yeah, people who have pets and are broke, need to get rid of them as they are a added responsibility and financial burden (read luxury). Seems said people don't want to be lonely, and are selfish---which could be the reason why they are in the financial red as it is...
Cold! You do not have pets, right?
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Cold! You do not have pets, right?
Nope, but I appreciate pets....I had fish ;D
I wanted a boa---but, if you get snakes, one has to be prepared to have cooter walk out the door...
I like animals, but if you can't afford it, or you go homeless, then you need to get rid of the pet...people need to learn that you can't always have what you want, but you can have what you need, and nobody really needs a "pet" when they can't afford to pay their own bills. Priorities. I'm willing to bet, that many of these same people, were always given stuff when they were kids, and expect the same type of entitlement when they are adults---they deserve to keep or have everything that they want...Nope, sorry, it's what got you in the mess that you are in.
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some people just abandon their pets in the woods when they fall on hard times so some people see things your way, bay ::)
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some people just abandon their pets in the woods when they fall on hard times so some people see things your way, bay ::)
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Those people should be shot! >:( >:(
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What a fuckin load of crap.
As if you'd give up something that close to you due to financial hardship.
I'd rather fuckin miss a few meals a day than get rid of my dog.
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What a fuckin load of crap.
As if you'd give up something that close to you due to financial hardship.
I'd rather fuckin miss a few meals a day than get rid of my dog.
you, you sound like a good person. I have a friend girl who has three dogs and is loosing her job and house, but will not give up her four dogs. 8)
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you, you sound like a good person. I have a friend girl who has three dogs and is loosing her job and house, but will not give up her four dogs. 8)
I think it's selfish...give them to a shelter--or ask some kids to take care of them, I'm sure there are plenty of kids who'd want a dog for free...What a fuckin load of crap.
As if you'd give up something that close to you due to financial hardship.
I'd rather fuckin miss a few meals a day than get rid of my dog.
Yes, you give up the things that are close to you, during financial hardship---it's called sacrifice. It's a selfish move to keep things or animals, just because you don't want to be lonely...why should they suffer because you are...."Come on Tory, we're gonna sort this out, TOGETHER."
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I think it's selfish...give them to a shelter--or ask some kids to take care of them, I'm sure there are plenty of kids who'd want a dog for free...Yes, you give up the things that are close to you, during financial hardship---it's called sacrifice. It's a selfish move to keep things or animals, just because you don't want to be lonely...why should they suffer because you are...."Come on Tory, we're gonna sort this out, TOGETHER."
so if you have a wife and she loses her job or better yet....you lose yours and then she says listen I can't afford to keep feeding you so get the fuck out and go to a shelter...you would be cool with that huh? I would be willing to bet your logic would be out the window at that point.
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I think it's selfish...give them to a shelter--or ask some kids to take care of them, I'm sure there are plenty of kids who'd want a dog for free...Yes, you give up the things that are close to you, during financial hardship---it's called sacrifice. It's a selfish move to keep things or animals, just because you don't want to be lonely...why should they suffer because you are...."Come on Tory, we're gonna sort this out, TOGETHER."
How would the pet suffer exactly? It doesn't need material garbage to sustain it and doesn't have a lavish lifestyle to maintain.
Basic food, protection from worms and fleas, and its owner love will suffice. I'll never not be able to provide those things.
I'd make a big list of other things I could do without before I got rid of a pet.
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Lately I have been seeing a lot of profiles (on TV, in newspapers, etc.) about people who are either unemployed and or struggling financially. The profiles always paint the person as a victim of unfortunate circumstances. Many are living paycheck to paycheck, drawing on a meager savings account, or depending on friends or family to help them make it from month to month. Just as I start to feel sorry for them I read that the person—who may not know where their next meal is coming from—has a pet. Often it is a dog, and I find myself thinking, "why does this person have a pet if they are so hard up?" I like pets as much as the next guy, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who can afford to have a pet or doesn't have the sense to part with the animal if they are not in a position to afford one. >:(
Discuss.
Sexual Orientation of Peace.... ::)
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Funny, I am walking my sisters dog as I read this thread on my Iphone
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I saw a couple on TV who were on social benefit or how do you say that in English.
They were complaining about the money they got each month.
They were disgustingly fat, had 4 large dogs and both smoked heavily.
Now explain this to someone in Africa with hunger oedema....
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I saw a couple on TV who were on social benefit or how do you say that in English.
They were complaining about the money they got each month.
They were disgustingly fat, had 4 large dogs and both smoked heavily.
Now explain this to someone in Africa with hunger oedema....
Speaks volumes about the ability of Europeans to create great civilizations when useless fucks like that can still live relatively comfortably and not starve.
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I do not understand how stupid people are, how can you waste your money on worthless shit when you don't know what could happen in the future.
Getbig is so much more intelligent than the rest of society. If we could get people like Croatch and gh15 to get over their insecurities we could take over the world.
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Hasn't Croatch spent heaps on tatoos and GH15 alot on drugs?
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How would the pet suffer exactly? It doesn't need material garbage to sustain it and doesn't have a lavish lifestyle to maintain.
Basic food, protection from worms and fleas, and its owner love will suffice. I'll never not be able to provide those things.
I'd make a big list of other things I could do without before I got rid of a pet.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO AFFORD THAT WHEN ONE IS LOSING THEIR HOUSE OR CAN'T PAY BILLS?
Priorities over wants and needs and luxuries, which a pet is...nobody needs a pet, unless it's a seeing eye dog...
There was someone on here that said that their aunt had a dog that had tumors, but she was keeping him alive, just to keep him around, even though it was in misery. Same deal, people are selfish, and want pets around when they can't afford to have them. Are you one of those people?
Priorities are: Food, Shelter, Water, Clothes
to pay for that: Job, to get there: Car
pets don't fit anywhere near there
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HOW ARE YOU GOING TO AFFORD THAT WHEN ONE IS LOSING THEIR HOUSE OR CAN'T PAY BILLS?
Priorities over wants and needs and luxuries, which a pet is...nobody needs a pet, unless it's a seeing eye dog...
There was someone on here that said that their aunt had a dog that had tumors, but she was keeping him alive, just to keep him around, even though it was in misery. Same deal, people are selfish, and want pets around when they can't afford to have them. Are you one of those people?
Priorities are: Food, Shelter, Water, Clothes
to pay for that: Job, to get there: Car
pets don't fit anywhere near there
If I ever reached the point where I couldn't handle an extra $10-15 for dog food a week I'd say I would've failed at life.
If you ever find yourself in a position like that maybe you shouldn't have had a dog in the first place.
Luckily I save.
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Priorities are: iPhone, iPad, getting hair done
Wants (i.e. What the government should pay you extra to buy); Food, Food for Kids, Shelter
Fixed for Generation Nothingness
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Fixed for Generation Nothingness
haha
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Priorities are: Food, Shelter, Water, Clothes
to pay for that: Job, to get there: Car
pets don't fit anywhere near there
nuggah I ride the bus, cars are a luxury
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If I ever reached the point where I couldn't handle an extra $10-15 for dog food a week I'd say I would've failed at life.
If you ever find yourself in a position like that maybe you shouldn't have had a dog in the first place.
Luckily I save.
Hey, a extra 10-15 can go a long way, especially in paying bills off, or investing...it's when people can't pay their bills or lose their house...that is the problem you are missing.. And sometimes it's the pet that is eating into it, and it also depends on how big the pet (dog) is. Or vet bills. Or in what type of health it is in.
You seem to ignore the whole premise of the OP's thread...umemployed, losing home, can't pay bills, but you have a pet...that is a luxury burden...hand it over to a family member if possible once aperson gets their stuff together.
nuggah I ride the bus, cars are a luxury
Cars are a must where I live at....plus, we went over this before. Do you know what type of people ride the bus over here?
Let me run this down to you, imagine the Getbiggers you can't stand the most...riding the bus with you. Now, imagine if they don't have a car, don't have insurance for car, lost their car, can hardly pay their rent, or bus fare.
You think Epic Beard man was a isolated incident? I know people who have been robbed at bus stops, clothes, timberlands, everything except for their underwear. Those are the people that ride the bus over here.
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just kidding bro, I know you yanks cant
wont take a bus ;D
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btw parker, the buses you guys have that go from the airport aren't too bad though? I remember I took a bus from Detroit international to East Lansing and there was no drama or even noise
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I was just in Latvia and there many starving homeless people have pets. I would also like to have a dog to accompany me if I was starving and poor..
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im a large man but one with a plan
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btw parker, the buses you guys have that go from the airport aren't too bad though? I remember I took a bus from Detroit international to East Lansing and there was no drama or even noise
No, they are not too bad, neither are the commuter buses to Washington, DC...those tend to be government folk....
fisrt time I ever rode on a Baltimore City (aka Bodymore) bus, it was at night, and me and acollege friend were riding...there were three dudes and one dude was talking about how he shot this dude and his son...we (my friend and I) were the only ones on the bus....and they noticed that.
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You can eat your pets.
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Lately I have been seeing a lot of profiles (on TV, in newspapers, etc.) about people who are either unemployed and or struggling financially. The profiles always paint the person as a victim of unfortunate circumstances. Many are living paycheck to paycheck, drawing on a meager savings account, or depending on friends or family to help them make it from month to month. Just as I start to feel sorry for them I read that the person—who may not know where their next meal is coming from—has a pet. Often it is a dog, and I find myself thinking, "why does this person have a pet if they are so hard up?" I like pets as much as the next guy, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who can afford to have a pet or doesn't have the sense to part with the animal if they are not in a position to afford one. >:(
Discuss.
These people are always the ones that have 10 kids too. For the most part these people put themselves into the situation by not preparing when times are good.
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Lately I have been seeing a lot of profiles (on TV, in newspapers, etc.) about people who are either unemployed and or struggling financially. The profiles always paint the person as a victim of unfortunate circumstances. Many are living paycheck to paycheck, drawing on a meager savings account, or depending on friends or family to help them make it from month to month. Just as I start to feel sorry for them I read that the person—who may not know where their next meal is coming from—has a pet. Often it is a dog, and I find myself thinking, "why does this person have a pet if they are so hard up?" I like pets as much as the next guy, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who can afford to have a pet or doesn't have the sense to part with the animal if they are not in a position to afford one. >:(
Discuss.
You often see homeless people with pets. Granted, some are 'props,' but for most of them pets stave off loneliness and provide a sense of purpose. Very primal stuff.
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If you can afford it, wonderful! More power to you, but why appear in whiny articles about how broke and desperate you are if you can afford a pet? Most people—especially people who do not have pets—see them as a luxury.
I always thought your people were compassionate and understanding. Seems you are the exception.
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I saw a couple on TV who were on social benefit or how do you say that in English.
They were complaining about the money they got each month.
They were disgustingly fat, had 4 large dogs and both smoked heavily.
Palin's fault.
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some people obviously prefer having pets than children. Something went really wrong in their family in the first place obviously.
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A Homeowner With No Savings, but Some Options
By TESS VIGELAND
GRASS VALLEY, Calif.
IF you’re worried that you haven’t saved enough for retirement, you’re probably right. Most of us haven’t. In fact, the Employee Benefit Research Institute found the majority of American workers had put away less than $25,000 for their golden years.
But even those people are in better financial shape than Susanna Wilson, 70, who saved nothing.
Her only dependable income is a Social Security check of about $900 a month.
“I can never retire,” she said, her voice trembling as she stared at the floor of her living room in Grass Valley, Calif. “Probably about every two weeks when the bills are due, that’s when I get really worried. I think ‘How am I going to pay this one?’ ”
It should never have come to this. Ms. Wilson attended the University of California, Berkeley, in the late 1950s, though she left before graduating to move to New York and marry her college sweetheart, the Minimalist sculptor and sometime rock musician Walter De Maria.
Ms. Wilson spent her prime earning years engaged in various creative endeavors in New York, mostly as a designer. Her clothing line, O’Susanna, found a home in the late 1970s at Saks Fifth Avenue and Bloomingdale’s. Glamour and Seventeen magazines featured Perfumes by Susanna, including a popular fragrance called Strawberry Love.
In her 40s, Ms. Wilson moved to California and became a publicist. At her peak, she made around $65,000 a year, she said, and not a penny of that made its way into a retirement fund. “One thing kind of led to another,” Ms. Wilson said. “I’ve always put all my money into my businesses. And I always thought the business I was in was going to be a great success.” She also raised a daughter, Corie, 36, who lives in Los Angeles with her two children and is not in a position to help her mother financially.
Now twice divorced and living alone with her Shetland Sheepdog, Rooney, Ms. Wilson subsists on those government checks, plus a one-day-a-week job at a local jewelry store that pays $12.50 an hour. She received no alimony from either divorce. Ms. Wilson also makes little girls’ dresses under her O’Susanna label, at a vintage Singer Featherweight sewing machine in her dining room. But she sells only about six a month for around $200.
Grass Valley, an old gold mining town of 12,300 residents in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada, near Lake Tahoe, isn’t an expensive place to live. But Ms. Wilson isn’t the only one struggling. Her friend Molly Fisk, 55, a poet and teacher, was visiting the house and joked that her retirement planning was “all tied up in MasterCard futures. Sad but true.”
Ms. Wilson would probably manage on her current income, though not without sacrifice, were it not for the debt she had accumulated. All told, she averages about $1,400 in monthly income, including Social Security (adjusted for one of her former husbands’ earnings). A third of that goes toward fixed expenses like utilities. She pays $300 toward a mortgage balance of $5,477. She inherited the house, fully paid off, from her parents, but took out the mortgage a few years ago to pay for repairs.
The balance of her income goes toward the monthly minimum payments on $9,000 in credit card debt, racked up for daily living expenses. “I think I might just have to declare bankruptcy,” she said. “I just can’t live with that.”
Before she takes that drastic step, Ms. Wilson should consider some other options, said Elizabeth Rutter Baer, a certified financial planner in Lansing, Mich. She worries that Ms. Wilson is “extremely close” to the edge and isn’t getting anywhere with her debt payments because she keeps putting more expenses, like food, on her credit cards.
Yes, she could try to find other income, Ms. Baer said. But that’s a short-term solution. At some point, despite her excellent health, Ms. Wilson may not be able to work. “Bankruptcy is possible, but my advice is, let’s liquidate assets and get those debts paid off,” Ms. Baer said.
To that end, Ms. Baer recommended something she said she had never before suggested: a reverse mortgage. Such mortgages allow homeowners to tap existing home equity to receive a lump sum or monthly checks. Unlike a home equity loan, however, borrowers don’t have to make any repayments until they no longer live in the home. The strategy can be risky, with high fees and sometimes poor counseling for borrowers. Reverse mortgages are available only to homeowners 62 or older.
“Susanna is the ideal candidate,” Ms. Baer said. “This is one instance where it could work.”
The house is valued from $150,000 to $200,000. Ms. Baer said Ms. Wilson should work with a bank to see if she could wrap the current mortgage into a reverse and then take cash out. Ms. Wilson is already making phone calls to explore the idea.
Ms. Baer also noted that Ms. Wilson was part owner, with her two brothers, of several tracts of timberland in northern California. The land’s value has dropped because of the economy, but Ms. Baer said that shouldn’t stop them from selling it.
“Whatever the purpose of this land was before, today’s the rainy day,” she said. “It may not be that much, but at this point $25,000 would change her life, totally.” Ms. Wilson said she was discussing this with her brothers and a real estate agent.
Ms. Baer, who is 67 and single, said there were particular financial difficulties facing single people as they aged. Even people in a relationship should make financial plans that can work even if they were to be single during retirement, she said, adding, “Nobody knows who’s going to be there at the end.”
Ms. Wilson agreed with that assessment. “I have friends, and they’re two people together, and it’s a lot easier.” At that point she again spoke through tears. “My Mom would say, ‘Why don’t you just go and get married?’ and that’s just not me,” she said. “I believe you have to love somebody.”
Ms. Baer’s advice provided a push for her to explore some options she had already thought about, but hadn’t followed through on, Ms. Wilson said, because she had been paralyzed by the fear of what might happen if she could no longer generate extra income. Overcoming that fear will be key to recovering her financial health. And she’s confident that will happen.
“I don’t want to be a Pollyanna,” Ms. Wilson said. “But tomorrow is another day.”
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'They can't afford their pets'
BY JOY BLACKBURN
Virgin Islanders gave up their pets in record numbers last year in what may be another indicator of the continuing toll of hard economic times.
The number of animals the St. Croix Animal Welfare Center took in during 2010 jumped by 20 percent over the previous year - and reached a significantly higher level than it had in any year during the previous five years, said Gretchen Sherrill, shelter coordinator.
While the numbers are grimmest on St. Croix, they number of animals turned into shelters last year also rose significantly on St. Thomas.
Sherrill believes the state of the economy - and the money problems many are experiencing - are driving the increase.
The numbers
In 2009, the St. Croix Animal Welfare Center took in 3,016 animals, either given up by their owners or picked up as strays, Sherrill said. Intakes had remained fairly constant over about five years, hovering around the 3,000 mark.
And then, in 2010, that number jumped dramatically to approximately 3,600 animals - a 20 percent increase, she said.
"People say they can't afford their pets anymore," Sherrill said. "We have heard that financial reason given much more frequently than before. I do think the economy is playing a role."
While the Humane Society of St. Thomas also saw an increase in animal intakes during 2010, it was not nearly so steep as on St. Croix.
In 2009, the Humane Society took in 1,890 animals on St. Thomas, while in 2010, that number increased to 1,975 - a 4 percent jump, said Annabel Hiltz, operations manager at the Humane Society of St. Thomas.
On St. John, the number of animals taken in by the Animal Care Center - a no-kill shelter - has remained fairly constant.
"It pretty much stays the same," said Diana Ripley, former president and current board member and committee chair for shelter operations at the Animal Care Center. "The difference is how many get adopted and how long they stay with you. We've had dogs up to three years. We try our best to keep moving them."
In 2010, the shelter on St. John took in 163 animals, six fewer than in 2009, Ripley said.
It is telling, Sherrill said, that even with similar populations in the island districts, St. Croix has so many more unwanted companion animals - even during average years - than St. Thomas and St. John combined.
"It's really entirely too high here," she said, speaking of St. Croix.
The problem
Dealing with the problem of an exploding population of unwanted companion animals on an island that has a relatively constant population of humans requires a multi-faceted approach, Sherrill said.
A new low-cost spay-neuter program that is starting up on the island will help, she said.
But it will deal with only part of the problem.
There are too many people, Sherrill said, who simply don't plan well enough and find themselves in situations where they cannot keep their pets, even in average years. Oftentimes those people wind up either turning their companion animals in at the shelter directly or simply turning them loose.
People should consider the cost of responsible pet ownership before taking an animal in, she said.
"There's always been a segment of the population that get pets, and then can't afford them," she said. "Also, there has been an issue of continentals leaving and they either don't want to, or can't afford to pay the airline fees to take their animals back with them."
However, as the recession continues to take its toll, more owners - even those who never expected to - are finding themselves in situations where they can no longer afford their animals.
Financial reasons for giving up a pet run the gamut from being unable to meet the basic costs to feed and shelter the animal, to being unable to afford veterinary care for animals that have taken ill, she said.
She urged owners who are unable to keep their pets to either find them a new home on their own or to call the shelter - and not to simply set them loose.
Read more: http://virginislandsdailynews.com/news/they-can-t-afford-their-pets-1.1118993#ixzz1HoT4XXmK
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Lately I have been seeing a lot of profiles (on TV, in newspapers, etc.) about people who are either unemployed and or struggling financially. The profiles always paint the person as a victim of unfortunate circumstances. Many are living paycheck to paycheck, drawing on a meager savings account, or depending on friends or family to help them make it from month to month. Just as I start to feel sorry for them I read that the person—who may not know where their next meal is coming from—has a pet. Often it is a dog, and I find myself thinking, "why does this person have a pet if they are so hard up?" I like pets as much as the next guy, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who can afford to have a pet or doesn't have the sense to part with the animal if they are not in a position to afford one. >:(
Discuss.
THis is quite simple Bay, I'm sure you know the answer.
Companionship.
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I love my dogs better than most people I know.
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You say you like pets as much as the next guy, but I doubt it. In fact, I'd bet you don't have a pet.
Many people Fucked up people love their dogs and/or cats as much as they would children. If one loses their job and falls on hard times, I ask you, would they give their children up for adoption?
Fixed
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Those people should be shot! >:( >:(
Along with the people who take food from their family to give to their pets... ;D
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I love my dogs better than most people I know.
Dogs are better than most people.
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I love my dogs better than most people I know.
Thank you. ;) This is not that hard. I mean, people will lie, steal, cheat, complain, bitch,..etc But your dog will chill out and sleep on her bed. If you said, "Doug, who would you save? Some family member or my dog, and it would be my dog." 8)
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Pets are cool 8)
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THis is quite simple Bay, I'm sure you know the answer.
Companionship.
Get some friends=companionship
gf/bf= companionship
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Pets are cool 8)
I will be honest, when a family member dies, i enjoy it because i know that i will get some cash from their death, but when a dog passes away, it feels like the lowest day of my life. >:(
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anybody that could just abandon their pet due to financial problems (like a bag of dog food is expensive ::)) is clearly a sociopath
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I will be honest, when a family member dies, i enjoy it because i know that i will get some cash from their death, but when a dog passes away, it feels like the lowest day of my life. >:(
The making of a great dad or brother are in the works here...
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The making of a great dad or brother are in the works here...
:D :D :o :o
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I love my dogs better than most people I know.
OR maybe your dogs are the only "ones" able to love someone like you ?
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anybody that could just abandon their pet due to financial problems (like a bag of dog food is expensive ::)) is clearly a smart person who knows that pets are a luxury, that one gets when one has their priorities in order.
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Fixed for reality. If pets were as smart as humans, they'd leave your ass for getting into financial trouble---find another family to take care of them...
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I love animals, esp. dogs, but could never put or rate them above people.
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so if you have a wife and she loses her job or better yet....you lose yours and then she says listen I can't afford to keep feeding you so get the fuck out and go to a shelter...you would be cool with that huh? I would be willing to bet your logic would be out the window at that point.
To equate a pet with a human wife or husband is beyond logic...I bet you like beastiality flicks as well...
But, I'll say this, when I graduated from college, there was a small window of time when I didn't have a job. My mother had said: "Either you get a job, go back to school, or leave. I will not have some lazy, no job having person laying up in my house."
I got a job.
Please, don't ever use such infantile logic again. It insults those of us who ARE human...
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Fixed for reality. If pets were as smart as humans, they'd leave your ass for getting into financial trouble---find another family to take care of them...
leaving when there is financial trouble? ironic you sound like the women you always complain about
a dog is loyal until the end, if you can't care for a dog than you aren't human
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it costs about $20 a month to feed my dog
work 3 hours at wal mart and you have your dogs food for the month ::)
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leaving when there is financial trouble? ironic you sound like the women you always complain about
a dog is loyal until the end, if you can't care for a dog than you aren't human
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I was being tongue in cheek, if they were as smart as humans
and remember, one of the biggest reasons for divorce is due to finances...
it's good to be loyal, especially when the entity is ignorant to the situation at hand.
You are getting confused about be able to take care of a dog, and not taking care of essentials first.
Americans are too entrenched in their "wants" and "desires", they take for granted pets,
and your loyality comment speaks volumes. It's selfish to expect "loyalty", one accepts it as a given.
Man, especially Americans, want everything bent to their will, to serve at their whim, and when they can't have it, like spoiled children they cry.
When most of us got our first pet, we were role about the responsibilities of taking care of a pet. Feeding, walking, taking care of feces, shots, etc. Now, usually it was the parents who took care of the most important things, because they had the finances to do so. They had the income...then we as adults, want to replicate that. But, like a lot of people today, we confuse our wants with our needs. Nobody on here can actually say that they NEED a pet. Nobody can say that. Everybody on here can basically say that they got a pet because they WANTED a pet.
True love for our flora and fauna is to "want" what is best for that pet or entity and not selfishly think of our own desires of having them around for "our" company and "our" amusement. Let that animal be taken care of by someone who can afford to. Who has the luxury to do so.
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you must have missed my post above, everybody can afford a pet
i assume both you and bay never had to pay for one, if you did you would realize how cheap it is
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you must have missed my post above, everybody can afford a pet
i assume both you and bay never had to pay for one, if you did you would realize how cheap it is
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Sure, a pet rock, a hamster, a turtle, a rabbit, guinea pig, hermit crab...
My folks grew up on a farm---horses, cattle, pigs, chicks, ducks, dogs, cats, etc...
When I go to my great uncles house, i see chickens, ducks, turkeys, dogs and cats and banny roosters running around. I wanted to be a zoologist or a paleontologist when I was younger, loved animals....
When I was a mere babe, my parents had a black lab---that barked when i cried, an he hated me....they made the decision to get rid of the dog, as they couldn't afford the dog and me at the time. So, no not everybody can afford a pet.
Hell, most people can't even get their dogs to behave, or feed their dogs properly, or have them exercised...one of the reasons why there is a growing number of obese dogs and cats, and why there is a rise in kidney disease in dogs...
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Sure, a pet rock, a hamster, a turtle, a rabbit, guinea pig, hermit crab...
My folks grew up on a farm---horses, cattle, pigs, chicks, ducks, dogs, cats, etc...
When I go to my great uncles house, i see chickens, ducks, turkeys, dogs and cats and banny roosters running around. I wanted to be a zoologist or a paleontologist when I was younger, loved animals....
When I was a mere babe, my parents had a black lab---that barked when i cried, an he hated me....they made the decision to get rid of the dog, as they couldn't afford the dog and me at the time. So, no not everybody can afford a pet.
Hell, most people can't even get their dogs to behave, or feed their dogs properly, or have them exercised...one of the reasons why there is a growing number of obese dogs and cats, and why there is a rise in kidney disease in dogs...
they chose to get rid of the dog
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they chose to get rid of the dog
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yep, have to make choices in life---glad they didn't make the choice of getting rid of me...
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Lately I have been seeing a lot of profiles (on TV, in newspapers, etc.) about people who are either unemployed and or struggling financially. The profiles always paint the person as a victim of unfortunate circumstances. Many are living paycheck to paycheck, drawing on a meager savings account, or depending on friends or family to help them make it from month to month. Just as I start to feel sorry for them I read that the person—who may not know where their next meal is coming from—has a pet. Often it is a dog, and I find myself thinking, "why does this person have a pet if they are so hard up?" I like pets as much as the next guy, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who can afford to have a pet or doesn't have the sense to part with the animal if they are not in a position to afford one. >:(
Discuss.
When you're broke you need to have some kind of little things to make yourself happy.
Maybe it's a pet, maybe it's a little vodka, maybe it's a little weed.
You can't blaim them. Most people can't give up everything and live like a monk.
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Didn't Jesus have a goat?
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Dishing off a pet is for the weak.
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Lately I have been seeing a lot of profiles (on TV, in newspapers, etc.) about people who are either unemployed and or struggling financially. The profiles always paint the person as a victim of unfortunate circumstances. Many are living paycheck to paycheck, drawing on a meager savings account, or depending on friends or family to help them make it from month to month. Just as I start to feel sorry for them I read that the person—who may not know where their next meal is coming from—has a pet. Often it is a dog, and I find myself thinking, "why does this person have a pet if they are so hard up?" I like pets as much as the next guy, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who can afford to have a pet or doesn't have the sense to part with the animal if they are not in a position to afford one. >:(
Discuss.
about 6-9 months ago i was across the street from the big mongolian statue thing outside the san francisco capital building. some homeless dude around 20 walks up to me with a dog on a leash and told me he was selling weed for dog food. i thought the same thing as you. why the hell do you have a pet if you cant afford it?
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Bc dogs when leave you at your lowest...any1 that can just abandon their pet without finding them a proper home bc they fall on hard times doesn't even deserve the gift of their own life....I saved my two dogs after someone threw them on the side of the road bc they didn't know how hard they were to take care of....they were 10 weeks old!
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monsters >:(
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When you're broke you need to have some kind of little things to make yourself happy.
when i lived in a trailer, it was getbig and taco bell that made me happy.
now that i live in a nice house, it's getbig and steak (and a plastic cup of wine) that make me happy.
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about 6-9 months ago i was across the street from the big mongolian statue thing outside the san francisco capital building. some homeless dude around 20 walks up to me with a dog on a leash and told me he was selling weed for dog food. i thought the same thing as you. why the hell do you have a pet if you cant afford it?
Apparently we are freaks for seeing this as a problem.
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Apparently we are freaks for seeing this as a problem.
No one in their right mind ever considered tbumz a freak... :-X
And your douchebag-ness overwhelms all your freakish aspects.
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Apparently we are freaks for seeing this as a problem.
Not a freak, perhaps. But you do seem to have a lack of understanding of human nature and needs.
There are three main types of pet owners. There are those who keep them as possessions (in which case it might be easier to get rid of them). There are those that have them for human comfort and think of them as they would humans/children. And then there are those who have them because they assist them in some way as with seeing eye dogs, other helper dogs and cats and working dogs as in police dogs, hunting dogs, truffle and drug sniffing dogs. Of course, these reasons are not finite, so there are various combinations explaining why folks keep and often love their pets.
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I haven't read this whole thread, but this is a subject very important to me. If you are living on the public dollar(Krona, in my case), you cannot afford luxury. As Bay said, whine all you want but if you're hurting for money, then something has to be done about it and that something cannot be the forcing of other people to pay for you or give you emotional support, especially when you are still leaking money for something not necessary to your survival-people can argue the definition of that all they want, but it's already been defined by nature-shelter, food...etc. Pets, entertainment, vacations...etc these are not among the list of essentials. When you live on public dollar, you live cheap as hell. When you support yourself, you live like a king if you want.
It's one thing if you are hard up for dough and you are upset that you personally have to make some sacrifices...totally different if you are hard up for dough and make a plea for emotional or economic support for others when you are still living in a matter that isn't economically sustainable given your income/situation.
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OR maybe your dogs are the only "ones" able to love someone like you ?
Blow me.
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Quote from: uberman on March 27, 2011, 02:51:37 PM
OR maybe your dogs are the only "ones" able to love someone like you ?
Blow me.
Actually, dogs are often a much better judge of character than people are. So if a dog loves you then all is good. Who needs people? They sometimes treat you like shit. A dog generally doesn't unless you are one.
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I love animals, esp. dogs, but could never put or rate them above people.
I honestly wouldn`t either,but I love my dogs as if they were my children.............I have no kids BTW.
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Lately I have been seeing a lot of profiles (on TV, in newspapers, etc.) about people who are either unemployed and or struggling financially. The profiles always paint the person as a victim of unfortunate circumstances. Many are living paycheck to paycheck, drawing on a meager savings account, or depending on friends or family to help them make it from month to month. Just as I start to feel sorry for them I read that the person—who may not know where their next meal is coming from—has a pet. Often it is a dog, and I find myself thinking, "why does this person have a pet if they are so hard up?" I like pets as much as the next guy, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who can afford to have a pet or doesn't have the sense to part with the animal if they are not in a position to afford one. >:(
Discuss.
No matter how shit someone's life is..... they can feel a whole lot better for not being a homo.
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And what became of your lamb, Clarice?
Chill out, Dr. Lecter.
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I haven't read this whole thread, but this is a subject very important to me. If you are living on the public dollar(Krona, in my case), you cannot afford luxury. As Bay said, whine all you want but if you're hurting for money, then something has to be done about it and that something cannot be the forcing of other people to pay for you or give you emotional support, especially when you are still leaking money for something not necessary to your survival-people can argue the definition of that all they want, but it's already been defined by nature-shelter, food...etc. Pets, entertainment, vacations...etc these are not among the list of essentials. When you live on public dollar, you live cheap as hell. When you support yourself, you live like a king if you want.
It's one thing if you are hard up for dough and you are upset that you personally have to make some sacrifices...totally different if you are hard up for dough and make a plea for emotional or economic support for others when you are still living in a matter that isn't economically sustainable given your income/situation.
Thank you.
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Oh you're such a Blue Meanie, Bay!
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I haven't read this whole thread, but this is a subject very important to me. If you are living on the public dollar(Krona, in my case), you cannot afford luxury. As Bay said, whine all you want but if you're hurting for money, then something has to be done about it and that something cannot be the forcing of other people to pay for you or give you emotional support, especially when you are still leaking money for something not necessary to your survival-people can argue the definition of that all they want, but it's already been defined by nature-shelter, food...etc. Pets, entertainment, vacations...etc these are not among the list of essentials. When you live on public dollar, you live cheap as hell. When you support yourself, you live like a king if you want.
It's one thing if you are hard up for dough and you are upset that you personally have to make some sacrifices...totally different if you are hard up for dough and make a plea for emotional or economic support for others when you are still living in a matter that isn't economically sustainable given your income/situation.
George Orwell, who knew a bit about privation, from Wigan Pier:
"The basis of their [working poor] diet is white bread and margarine, corned beef, sugared tea, and potatoes — an appalling diet. Would it not be better if they spent more money on wholesome things like oranges and wholemeal bread, or if they… ate their carrots raw? Yes, it would, but the point is, no ordinary human being is ever going to do such a thing. The ordinary human being would sooner starve than live on brown bread and raw carrots. And the peculiar evil is this, that the less money you have, the less inclined you feel to spend it on wholesome food. A millionaire may enjoy breakfasting off orange juice and Ryvita buiscuits; an unemployed man doesn’t."
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I haven't read this whole thread, but this is a subject very important to me. If you are living on the public dollar(Krona, in my case), you cannot afford luxury. As Bay said, whine all you want but if you're hurting for money, then something has to be done about it and that something cannot be the forcing of other people to pay for you or give you emotional support, especially when you are still leaking money for something not necessary to your survival-people can argue the definition of that all they want, but it's already been defined by nature-shelter, food...etc. Pets, entertainment, vacations...etc these are not among the list of essentials. When you live on public dollar, you live cheap as hell. When you support yourself, you live like a king if you want.
It's one thing if you are hard up for dough and you are upset that you personally have to make some sacrifices...totally different if you are hard up for dough and make a plea for emotional or economic support for others when you are still living in a matter that isn't economically sustainable given your income/situation.
Basically, what you've said here is correct. If one is living off others, as one does when they receive public assistance, they should stick to the necessities in life. Unfortunately, many folks appear to think they are entitled to more than that, which is really annoying to me as a hardworking taxpayer. However, when it comes to keeping a pet, such as a dog, this isn't always a "luxury." As I mentioned, there are those who have helper dogs, for example.
In the U.S., if you are legally blind, you probably qualify for SSD (Social Security Disability). This doesn't mean you have to apply for it or that you couldn't be otherwise employed. However, some people who are blind have seeing eye dogs to help them through daily life. Sometimes these helper dogs are provided through some manner of public assistance. While a seeing eye dog no doubt betters a sightless person's existence, it isn't a luxury.
When a person receives public assistance in the form of, say, food stamps, these do not pay for anything but food and definitely not for pet food. I've seen homeless folks who beg at freeway on and off ramps with their pet dog sitting beside them. If one chooses to give them money, it is a gift or a donation if you will. Once you give someone something, it is theirs to use as they will. Therefore, if they spend it on dog or cat food for their pet, you really have nothing to say about this. Your option was not to give them money in the first place.
Beggars are sometimes crafty folks. I've seen sorry looking fathers and sometimes mothers standing by the roadside and holding cardboard signs stating they are homeless, cold and hungry while their children sit beside them. You see people feeling sorry for them and handing them money out their car windows. I don't. I am a suspicious person. I tend to think there is more to the "story" then they are letting on. I do feel bad for the kids though.
If my grown children fell on hard times, I would help them out until they got back on their feet. There is no way I'd let my daughter or son stand by the roadside with my grandchildren begging for handouts. In my opinion, this is what families should do. However, it sometimes seems like no one, not even ones own family is willing to make a sacrifice....I digress though.
As a reference, I have had a dog and sometimes a couple of dogs my entire life. When I was a kid, they helped teach me responsibility since they are completely dependant on their owners for survival, love and compassion. Both as a kid and as an adult, they have brought me enormous comfort and pleasure. Fortunately, I have always been in a financial position to take proper care of my pets. My son and his family have a cat. My daughter and her family have a dog, who is presently living with my wife and me. This is because, my son-in-law is stationed at Fort Bliss in TX and the vet advised against them moving him there for health reasons.
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Lately I have been seeing a lot of profiles (on TV, in newspapers, etc.) about people who are either unemployed and or struggling financially. The profiles always paint the person as a victim of unfortunate circumstances. Many are living paycheck to paycheck, drawing on a meager savings account, or depending on friends or family to help them make it from month to month. Just as I start to feel sorry for them I read that the person—who may not know where their next meal is coming from—has a pet. Often it is a dog, and I find myself thinking, "why does this person have a pet if they are so hard up?" I like pets as much as the next guy, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone who can afford to have a pet or doesn't have the sense to part with the animal if they are not in a position to afford one. >:(
Discuss.
do you own a dog?
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Hey bay, what would you do a day without cock? Think about that.