Author Topic: could freemen be Mr O (Read 10262 times)

body88 · « **on:** February 20, 2006, 12:22:37 PM »

Has the shape size and genetics
Just needs better condition and some recogognition. he could hold another 15 lbs without ruining those lines
discuss

hillbilly · « **Reply #1 on:** February 20, 2006, 12:27:09 PM »

Well i think his main problem is that he is so tall that its hard for him to fill out enough. I think itll be a long while before he looks complete and he aint gettin any younger! but i do think he has potential his only structure flaw i can see is he has a kinda chris cook like torso

MRMD2003 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 20, 2006, 12:29:24 PM »

NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

body88 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 20, 2006, 12:36:51 PM »

why not

freeman with 15 more lbs and good condition would smash anyone

how old is he

adipo8 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 20, 2006, 12:39:03 PM »

Toney doesn't have any major problems- he would make an awesome champion.
284 with a 32 in waist - @ 6'2 he looks amazing - keep it up Toney !
shape and symmerty - main ingredients of a champion

alexxx · « **Reply #5 on:** February 20, 2006, 12:40:12 PM »

I think tony with about 50 more pds will do serious damage at the olympia! I hope that somebody like him does win the olympia.. That will save our sport from the whole bloated stomach look nonsense!

Victor VonDoom · « **Reply #6 on:** February 20, 2006, 12:41:15 PM »

Sorry, no.

hillbilly · « **Reply #7 on:** February 20, 2006, 12:41:45 PM »

Quote from: adipo8 on February 20, 2006, 12:39:03 PM

Toney doesn't have any major problems- he would make an awesome champion.
284 with a 32 in waist - @ 6'2 he looks amazing - keep it up Toney !
shape and symmerty - main ingredients of a champion

Well i think he would need to be a least 300lb in todays world of freaks especially with his structure

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #8 on:** February 20, 2006, 12:42:20 PM »

15 or so perfection

hillbilly · « **Reply #9 on:** February 20, 2006, 12:43:06 PM »

Quote from: alexxx on February 20, 2006, 12:40:12 PM

I think tony with about 50 more pds will do serious damage at the olympia! I hope that somebody like him does win the olympia.. That will save our sport from the whole bloated stomach look nonsense!

Dam alexx i agree he needs more size but 50lbs!!!!! be realistic

alexxx · « **Reply #10 on:** February 20, 2006, 12:44:25 PM »

If he came in 50 pds heavier he'd be a lock for top 3 and i wouldn't mind if he becomes mr. olympia. Thats still doable!

hillbilly · « **Reply #11 on:** February 20, 2006, 12:47:23 PM »

Quote from: alexxx on February 20, 2006, 12:44:25 PM

If he came in 50 pds heavier he'd be a lock for top 3 and i wouldn't mind if he becomes mr. olympia. Thats still doable!

Well Alexxx him putting on an extra 50lb at this stage in his career is not 'doable'

Victor VonDoom · « **Reply #12 on:** February 20, 2006, 12:49:14 PM »

Are we talking about Tony? I thought you meant Jeremy.

hillbilly · « **Reply #13 on:** February 20, 2006, 12:51:31 PM »

Quote from: Victor VonDoom on February 20, 2006, 12:49:14 PM

Are we talking about Tony? I thought you meant Jeremy.

Oh god now i'm really confused???

stuntmovie · « **Reply #14 on:** February 20, 2006, 12:55:04 PM »

There's something we used to call the "Teufel Syndrome" that will prevent Jeremy(?) from ever winning the "O".
Don't actually recall why we called it that but it means that you got to improve a hell of a lot once the judges see you too many times.
But that is only one of many other things to consider regarding the judging of bodybuilding contests.
One thing that amateur contestants should consider ...... don't stay on the posing platform too long. Show your high points and get off. Always leave those judges wanting more.
And stay in one place. Don't hit your shots all over that stage and never becon the audiance to show their approval. They'll do that automatically if it is deserved.
Pose for the judges at prejudging and the audiance at the finals until the posedown when it's back to the judges once again.
And, always remember that the judges rank you during that initial prejudging lineup. From then on out, it's just a matter of making changes. That initial "relaxed" round is more important than it looks and holding yourself like the wind is about to carry you away really is a detriment.
And no judge really likes to make a change because it shows a weakness in his initial "decision". (Subconscious decisions play a major role.)

Hendrix · « **Reply #15 on:** February 20, 2006, 12:55:51 PM »

Quote from: body88 on February 20, 2006, 12:36:51 PM

why not
freeman with 15 more lbs and good condition would smash anyone
how old is he

Absouloutly remember Gunter when he first came to America he was competing in the high 250 low 260s in 99MrO where he finished 2nd to 3rd last.Now 4th at the 2005MrO at 300 pounds.Yes Freeman is tall like Gunter and is aging but look at Ronster 42 and is still winning the big one.
I read in an interview a year ago he stated he just used steroids and nothing else,its about time he sought out the help of Chad Nicholls he got Gunter huge and ripped though he should keep his kidneys under lock and key.I agree working with Chad would be a good idea his frame can carry another 30 pounds and at that he be a smashing ball.
I felt sorry for him with really nice lines he got pityful placing behind the super midget Lee in the iron man a more complete Bodybuilder without the freaky bodypart.

240 is Back · « **Reply #16 on:** February 20, 2006, 01:06:52 PM »

Quote from: alexxx on February 20, 2006, 12:44:25 PM

If he came in 50 pds heavier he'd be a lock for top 3 and i wouldn't mind if he becomes mr. olympia. Thats still doable!

Please explain how an athlete near his physical peak, already juiced to the gills, could add FIFTY pounds.

body88 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 20, 2006, 01:10:46 PM »

freeman has a tiny waist for his height basically gunter but with better structure if he could compete at 300 he would be unstopable

50 lbs no way 20 def

bigbalddaddy · « **Reply #18 on:** February 20, 2006, 01:11:33 PM »

Quote from: alexxx on February 20, 2006, 12:44:25 PM

If he came in 50 pds heavier he'd be a lock for top 3 and i wouldn't mind if he becomes mr. olympia. Thats still doable!

He needs 20-30 for sure! Lat thickness and add some to the Levrone style wheels along with "where's the calves" and he'll be great! Arms look a little like Shawns too!

Gord · « **Reply #19 on:** February 20, 2006, 01:17:33 PM »

Well, he has the poor calf development required to be the Olympia champion, but not the big gut.

sarcasm · « **Reply #20 on:** February 20, 2006, 01:21:53 PM »

his quads and calves are way too small for his frame and his waist aint no 32 inches at 285, no fuck.in' way.

JOHN MATRIX · « **Reply #21 on:** February 20, 2006, 01:24:03 PM »

that guy really has potential, although im not sure how old he is.
15-20lbs in the right places, and good conditioning he will be a serious threat.

XS · « **Reply #22 on:** February 20, 2006, 01:43:19 PM »

Sure and so could I.

Cool Black Clyde · « **Reply #23 on:** February 20, 2006, 02:17:45 PM »

First he has to make a posedown in a crappy show. The dude is about to be 40, and he's never proven he can dial it in. I don't see why we should think he ever will.

Bluto · « **Reply #24 on:** February 20, 2006, 02:18:58 PM »

masters olympia.